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May 9, 2021 12:56 AM
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Just made this in my free time. Tis a joke.



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Awesomeness_1307 said:
Just made this in my free time. Tis a joke.



The mappa one looks more realistic than the wit one ,because if you think about it ,that is how smoke would cover the area
May 9, 2021 1:10 AM
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Welp,might as share as well.


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Awesomeness_1307 said:
Just made this in my free time. Tis a joke.

actually I agree with your joke.

"No one can rewrite the stars
How can you say you'll be mine?
Everything keeps us apart
And I'm not the one you were meant to find
It's not up to you you
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When everyone tells us what we can be
How can we rewrite the stars?"
May 9, 2021 3:56 AM
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Mack_Yeager said:
Awesomeness_1307 said:
Just made this in my free time. Tis a joke.



The mappa one looks more realistic than the wit one ,because if you think about it ,that is how smoke would cover the area
wtf man , i mean whatever in defence of MAPPAπŸ₯΄
May 9, 2021 4:32 AM
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Scordolo said:
Welp,might as share as well.

I don’t know if you’re trying to say one is better than the other or they’re equal but uh for me they’re both great studios that did aot well
May 9, 2021 4:53 AM
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Like op said "tis a joke. @matildac
I like both studios as well.Both did a great jon but look at the wit's side.
Both had their ups and downs that everyone can agree.
But if you want to see the difference in Wits design from the Manga,the shadings in Eren's face aren't in place like Reiner's shadings.

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Mack_Yeager said:
Awesomeness_1307 said:
Just made this in my free time. Tis a joke.



The mappa one looks more realistic than the wit one ,because if you think about it ,that is how smoke would cover the area


Just the comment I thought I would find and it was the first post in this thread Hahahahaha.
May 9, 2021 5:25 AM
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Scordolo said:
Like op said "tis a joke. @matildac
I like both studios as well.Both did a great jon but look at the wit's side.
Both had their ups and downs that everyone can agree.
But if you want to see the difference in Wits design from the Manga,the shadings in Eren's face aren't in place like Reiner's shadings.
I agree, I’m just tired of the actual threads that genuinely hate on either studio
May 9, 2021 5:33 AM
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Lol OP , that was too accurate


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I think you are boar and mood off so see some good anime to change your mind
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Mack_Yeager said:
Awesomeness_1307 said:
Just made this in my free time. Tis a joke.



The mappa one looks more realistic than the wit one ,because if you think about it ,that is how smoke would cover the area

You forgot to say
Mappa had no time, it match the darker vipe in this season, it looks like the manga and the final excuse stop nitpicking over 1 sec scene.
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I always had a problem with those shadows with lines that have the artistic style of mappa.

it's as if the characters have dirty faces

heck i remember the first seasons of gumball where they had an annoying black shadow (mostly seen under darwin's head)

and personally I did not like it, it was improving after some seasons.
anyway, that's why gumball is better than AOT.
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May 9, 2021 8:52 AM
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Yeah, Mappa’s composting is probably their weakest attribute because sometimes it can look really bad.
May 9, 2021 9:10 AM
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Scordolo said:
Welp,might as share as well.



I'm not sure I... see your point? The point of an anime is not to be a 1:1 copy of the manga. In the manga, well firstly Eren's mouth is smaller than it should be, and the expression is.. kinda blank I guess? WIT just changed it to an exhausted and depressed looking Eren, although his face is a tiny bit longer than it should be. And yes, that MAPPA frame is good looking too. Again, not sure what's your point... If you wanted to imply that WIT wasn't a perfect studio as well, that's the wrong image to help your point lol
May 9, 2021 9:11 AM
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Mack_Yeager said:


The mappa one looks more realistic than the wit one ,because if you think about it ,that is how smoke would cover the area


Lmfao not you agreeing with my stupid meme. Thanks I guess? But on a more serious note, realism doesn't always result in an aesthetically pleasing or clear image.
May 9, 2021 9:14 AM
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Leoradiuju2004 said:
I always had a problem with those shadows with lines that have the artistic style of mappa.

it's as if the characters have dirty faces



Seems like they only do it for AoT, none of their other anime. I guess to replicate the original manga artstyle? Personally not a fan of it either.

Especially in that table conversation of episode 14, the black lines were super distracting for me. I feel like such intense line-work should only be reserved for super intense or unsettling expressions.
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WIT had better quality, but Mappa was almost identical to the art in the manga. I think the change in animation was a good thing, just wish mappa had more time to animate. We know they are capable after seeing Jujutsu Kaisen.
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Leoradiuju2004 said:
I always had a problem with those shadows with lines that have the artistic style of mappa.

it's as if the characters have dirty faces



Seems like they only do it for AoT, none of their other anime. I guess to replicate the original manga artstyle? Personally not a fan of it either.

Especially in that table conversation of episode 14, the black lines were super distracting for me. I feel like such intense line-work should only be reserved for super intense or unsettling expressions.
They only did it that way because they copied everything drawn in the manga, and fans confuse it with what is more realistic.
I have no problem with the manga looking like this, but in the anime they copied it thinking that it would look great, also, if they didn't put those lines, they would have saved a little more time by not drawing them.
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May 9, 2021 11:45 AM
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Tbh the animation style was so odd that I thought they were showing flashback from the past, because I am used to seeing that style of cinematography (or color grading, or the foggy thing, whatever it's called) only in flashback scenes or dream sequences in movies. Plus rhiner was kind off unrecognizable at the beginning, I thought it was his father or someone from his family. So that made me think that the season 4 started with flashbacks from the past. It took me a good 2-4 episodes to finally understand that it's actually the opposite, it's actually 4 years ahead from where season 3 left. Haha I'm not complaining, just sharing my experience. Also kinda crazy how just one simple thing (the foggy effect) can make it feel like a completely different timeline.
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not a single scene in season 4 looks like this πŸ˜‚
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i heard from the sakuga community that read the CG World magazine about the Final Season says that its a line filter so it speeds up their production and its not bothering me how overused it is since it looks fine

what i hate about MAPPA is the flat washout colors that makes the 3DCG ugly as hell too and i miss the vibrant colors done by WIT
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The blur filter and the color palette especially in the Marley arc were not my cup of tea. I liked the scenes without that effect a lot better because they looked crisper and more defined. I don't think they have any intention of getting rid of those filters in the next part, but I hope they leave more scenes without them.
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May 9, 2021 7:18 PM
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Leoradiuju2004 said:
also, if they didn't put those lines, they would have saved a little more time by not drawing them.


Don't worry, they aren't drawing each of those lines by hand. Their workflow basically involves a filter at this point which adds lines to areas they define. Still, it's an extra step, especially when done for every frame, and I feel like that effort could be used in other more important places.
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Mack_Yeager said:
Awesomeness_1307 said:
Just made this in my free time. Tis a joke.



The mappa one looks more realistic than the wit one ,because if you think about it ,that is how smoke would cover the area
It's a joke lmfao does it matter if it's realistic? We got the meme mediator over here.
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Yeah, Mappa’s composting is probably their weakest attribute because sometimes it can look really bad.
Well I mean its to be expected considering how shit the management is there.
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The blur filter and the color palette especially in the Marley arc were not my cup of tea. I liked the scenes without that effect a lot better because they looked crisper and more defined. I don't think they have any intention of getting rid of those filters in the next part, but I hope they leave more scenes without them.


I agree, there were times where I didn't really mind the blur that much and there were times where I found it completely unnecessary, I can also agree with you on the color grading as well. Tbh, I doubt it will happen but I want the director of photography or the art director of Dorohedoro to work on Part 2 because I personally thought that the backgrounds for Dorohedoro looked great
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Scordolo said:
Like op said "tis a joke. @matildac
I like both studios as well.Both did a great jon but look at the wit's side.
Both had their ups and downs that everyone can agree.
But if you want to see the difference in Wits design from the Manga,the shadings in Eren's face aren't in place like Reiner's shadings.


Wasn't MAPPA's trailer done by WIT though?
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MinorTatu said:
Scordolo said:
Like op said "tis a joke. @matildac
I like both studios as well.Both did a great jon but look at the wit's side.
Both had their ups and downs that everyone can agree.
But if you want to see the difference in Wits design from the Manga,the shadings in Eren's face aren't in place like Reiner's shadings.


Wasn't MAPPA's trailer done by WIT though?


Another rumor hah?!

Source? This is the first time I hear of such thing.
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Leoradiuju2004 said:
I always had a problem with those shadows with lines that have the artistic style of mappa.

it's as if the characters have dirty faces

heck i remember the first seasons of gumball where they had an annoying black shadow (mostly seen under darwin's head)

and personally I did not like it, it was improving after some seasons.
anyway, that's why gumball is better than AOT.

It's really nice when they reworked the animation
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Wasn't MAPPA's trailer done by WIT though?


Another rumor hah?!

Source? This is the first time I hear of such thing.



Bro YOUR circle jerk fanbase was literally using that as an excuse as to why the show was different from the trailer
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Added another edited image in OP lol
May 11, 2021 6:29 AM
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Leoradiuju2004 said:
I always had a problem with those shadows with lines that have the artistic style of mappa.

it's as if the characters have dirty faces

heck i remember the first seasons of gumball where they had an annoying black shadow (mostly seen under darwin's head)

and personally I did not like it, it was improving after some seasons.
anyway, that's why gumball is better than AOT.


Nani ,what up kiddo ,this is no place for kids
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Leoradiuju2004 said:
I always had a problem with those shadows with lines that have the artistic style of mappa.

it's as if the characters have dirty faces

heck i remember the first seasons of gumball where they had an annoying black shadow (mostly seen under darwin's head)

and personally I did not like it, it was improving after some seasons.
anyway, that's why gumball is better than AOT.


Nani ,what up kiddo ,this is no place for kids

lmao it's funny that you say this is not a place for children, when gumball has many jokes about today's society and more intelligent than you think.
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Leoradiuju2004 said:
I always had a problem with those shadows with lines that have the artistic style of mappa.

it's as if the characters have dirty faces

heck i remember the first seasons of gumball where they had an annoying black shadow (mostly seen under darwin's head)

and personally I did not like it, it was improving after some seasons.
anyway, that's why gumball is better than AOT.
i personally like these cuz i think these lines portraysthe stress and tension the character is in.

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You're going to be all right. You just stumbled over a stone in the road.
It means nothing. Your goal lies far beyond this. Doesn't it?
I'm sure you'll overcome this.
You'll walk again... soon.

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Although I know that this is an exaggeration, I think Mappa did a really great job with the visuals. The blur can be excessive sometimes but not too intrusive most of the time imho, and the lighting looks really good overall, specially in ep 11.

HOWEVER, I do dislike quite a bit that ugly ass filter they use for flashbacks. Why couldn't they just put the normal footage with maybe white borders? What's with that weird Retrica filter? It really bothers me
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Although I know that this is an exaggeration, I think Mappa did a really great job with the visuals. The blur can be excessive sometimes but not too intrusive most of the time imho, and the lighting looks really good overall


Did you enjoy the lighting in episode 6 or 14? Or any time they're in an underground area?
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Awesomeness_1307 said:
Just made this in my free time. Tis a joke.



EDIT: Edited another image.





MAPPA's faithfulness to the Manga art style even though Isayama admitted he bad at drawing and encouraged Wit for redesign only showed they are making unprofessional decision.
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The lighting in MAPPA makes no sense. The shadow and shade casted is independent of the light source.

Even if the lamp is is right next to you at a 180 degree but the shadow is casted is as if the light source is coming from a 45 degree higher angle.
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Mack_Yeager said:
Awesomeness_1307 said:
Just made this in my free time. Tis a joke.



The mappa one looks more realistic than the wit one ,because if you think about it ,that is how smoke would cover the area


Smoke is not the only aspect they should focus on. Lighting and shading as also important.

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Scordolo said:
Welp,might as share as well.



Apart from Zeke, Gabi, Falco, Reiner and Willy everyone else need to get re-design. Plus, if MAPPA use 2D for Attack Titan the fights would look spectacular.
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AhmadLucious said:
The lighting in MAPPA makes no sense. The shadow and shade casted is independent of the light source.

Even if the lamp is is right next to you at a 180 degree but the shadow is casted is as if the light source is coming from a 45 degree higher angle.


Yeah, that's also probably due to time constraints. Drawing light accurately on faces requires a pretty good animator, who understands 3D form. The team was put together pretty last minute, so a lotta people might not have been that great. For them, the easiest way to draw a good looking division of light and shadow (without most people noticing) is probably to draw the most common scenario, i.e., 45 degree higher angle, and leave the colourists and post processing team to figure out how to make the drawings work the best they can with the lighting of the scene.
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AhmadLucious said:


Apart from Zeke, Gabi, Falco, Reiner and Willy everyone else need to get re-design. Plus, if MAPPA use 2D for Attack Titan the fights would look spectacular.


Those are some pretty giant and unrealistic changes you puttin out there bud xD

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