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Mar 17, 2021 9:18 PM
#1
I'm sure many people are familiar with Rule 34, which also covers anime, but here's a question: What makes an anime popular among adult H-Works, and what makes a particular anime appealing to the anime cosplay community? In this observational study, we chose 50 popular anime titles and compared the number of H-Works and officially published cosplay photos for sale. This investigation could help us identify the key elements that contribute to a title's popularity in pornography and cosplay. The comparison method is to use a popular hentai website; we chose ExHentai aka (Sad Panda) for several reasons: - It has a reasonably large collection of H-works. - It allows lolicon/shotacon H-materials. - It also has official professional cosplay works that have been published. - It has filtering capabilities (*see below). - There are adult western parody comics in it. * Filters: We included all kinds of H-works, such as Japanese doujins, CG from parody games, cosplays, and western comics. We have not excluded any tags; for example, certain works are popular among yaoi fans. The only filters we used were to exclude non-english translated works and rewrites, so only works in Japanese, English translations, or originally non-japanese works are included. This filter is used to limit the display of duplicated works. Here are the results (click for large image) or press CTRL+ Fate Grand Order has the most H-works and official cosplay works among these 50 popular anime titles, followed by Neon Genesis Evangelion, and Deadman Wonderland has the least, followed by Elfen Lied. Naruto ranked first among the "big three" shounen anime, followed by One Piece and Bleach. We are aware that F/GO is based on a free-to-play Japanese mobile game, which explains why it contains so many advertisements. While the popularity of anime helps to increase the number of H-works published and gain popularity in the anime cosplaying community. There are other factors to consider, such as the fact that it is not the anime as a whole that popularises H-works and cosplaying, but rather the characters themselves within the anime. For example, in One Punch Man, most of the H-materials and cosplay publications are based on Tatsumaki, who is a popular among lolicons, and the same is true for Ai Haibara from Detective Conan. Neon Genesis Evangelion is extremely popular, largely because of the "bodysuit fetish". Some anime with Bishnen-like casts, such as Code Geass, Tokyo Ghoul, and Death Note, as well as anime with predominantly male casts, such as HunterxHunter, Berserk, and Psycho Pass, are popular among yaoi fans. Characters such as Nagisa Shiota and Astolfo are well-liked by "trap" fans. Character design, in my opinion, is the most important factor in attracting attention and thus selling published H-works or cosplay photos. However, some sexual fetishes or body preferences are more popular than others. Due to her over-the-top gimmicky personality, a character like Yuno from Future Diary is very popular on the internet and in the anime community; she is arguably the most popular iconic "yandere" character. Nonetheless, her character design is generic; she wears an ugly boring generic school uniform, her pink hair is unimpressive, she is slim, and she has small breasts and buttocks. Another factor is the advertising's strength; while it certainly helps in terms of general popularity, sexual fanservice is a supporting tool to make the advertisement more appealing. The first episode of the anime may also serve as an advertisement; a common technique in manga is to include fanservice as soon as possible so that the audience will continue to read/watch that title expecting more of it. At that point, the series is typically mainstream while it is currently airing, as are H-works and cosplay publications. Disclaimer: The goal of this topic is not to criticise specific titles or fanbase communities for the aforementioned titles. Feel free to leave a respectful comment or engage in a discussion. |
DeagoMar 17, 2021 10:12 PM
Mar 17, 2021 9:27 PM
#2
think character designs and the amount of waifus is one key factor |
Mar 17, 2021 9:27 PM
#3
ROFL ....I'm a little bit shocked something Fate beat the monster that is EVANGELION....I honestly did not think that would happen. xD Also a little happy about it; since I thought Misato was the only good female character in it; NO IDEA what people like about Rei and Asuka; their archetypes have been done to death and a million times better too, if we are talking about 'kuudere' and 'tsundere'. In fact, compared to all the others that came after them, they seriously kinda suck. Fate has better, likable characters so this is GOOD, in my opinion. I don't engage in H-related merch (aside from doujinshi of my OTPs) though...so my thoughts will end here. xD Totally agree; "good character design is a solid seller' Yuuno was the yandere to make people love yandere (even though I'm pretty sure Kaede from Shuffle! was one before her) so I guess she holds a similar position as Rei and Asuka. An outstanding voice actor would also help sell the character. Yuuno did have a good one. |
Mar 17, 2021 9:29 PM
#4
I think they just have to have attractive characters |
ManWild |
Mar 17, 2021 9:32 PM
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Mar 17, 2021 9:35 PM
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Mar 17, 2021 9:37 PM
#7
Judevin said: The only thing that surprised me is how FGO is the most popular franchise for r34 content. Tatsumaki over Fubuki though? I mean, alright. Ai Haibara r34? My fellow weebs never fail to be true degenerates lmfao. Interesting study though nonetheless. That FGO one should be the most expected though tbh lol |
Mar 17, 2021 9:37 PM
#8
Indeed character design, and the popularities the anime had. The character designs have to be attractive enough but not in the level of overlewd, and so Rule 34 in action. Also the personalities the characters have, because there are some fanworks that meant to disrespect the character because that character was acting like an annoying beechi. It's just like what happened to that red-haired girl in Shield Hero but this time it's in sexual form. |
Mar 17, 2021 9:39 PM
#9
Mar 17, 2021 9:41 PM
#10
Chiibi said: ROFL ....I'm a little bit shocked something Fate beat the monster that is EVANGELION....I honestly did not think that would happen. xD I'm actually not terribly surprised that FGO would beat Evangelion. Evangelion is a major franchise but Fate is a popular series in its own right. FGO is also a gacha game so its character designs are specifically made to be waifu/husbando bait. And the number of characters in FGO is staggering. You have characters who are extremely recognizable and appeal to more "mainstream" fans - and then you have a wide variety of lesser known characters that cover a whole spectrum of tastes for both men and women. The only thing that is surprising to me is just how huge the lead is for FGO. I'm curious how it would stack up to other popular gacha games that also seem to dominate the R34 scene like Azur Lane. |
Mar 17, 2021 9:41 PM
#11
T1mma said: Should it?Judevin said: The only thing that surprised me is how FGO is the most popular franchise for r34 content. Tatsumaki over Fubuki though? I mean, alright. Ai Haibara r34? My fellow weebs never fail to be true degenerates lmfao. Interesting study though nonetheless. That FGO one should be the most expected though tbh lol Damn, I guess I don't spend enough time browse r34 content then. I always thought the highest r34 content would be a long running shounen like One Piece or Fairy Tail, specifically because the character design is just borderline hentai anyway. |
Mar 17, 2021 9:48 PM
#12
I dunno anime has pretty girls and porn is awesome so parodies are going to happen. The anime with girls people like for what ever reason will be more popular. Fetishes probably play a part but I dunno which people want from these shows. |
Mar 17, 2021 9:53 PM
#13
MechKingKillbot said: There is a lack of Azur Lane, Kancolle Collection, Girls Und Panzer, Touhou, and Idolm@ster It would be cheating including these lol. It is like putting Final Fantasy 7, just because it has few unpopular anime of it. I have purposely only included titles and franchise that are popular within anime community such as one of Fate series (which is a game originally). |
Mar 17, 2021 9:55 PM
#14
@JohnGalt89 True...but the thing Eva has over Fate is the amount of time it's been around. 1995 so...a good decade or so, yes? 2006 was Fate's first anime series so the fact that Fate could overtake Eva BY SO MUCH MORE (looking at the chart) despite the decade time shortage is impressive, for sure. |
Mar 17, 2021 9:58 PM
#15
Chiibi said: @JohnGalt89 True...but the thing Eva has over Fate is the amount of time it's been around. 1995 so...a good decade or so, yes? That Fate could overtake that BY SO MUCH MORE (looking at the chart) is impressive, for sure. You have to remember that that was only F/GO, not the whole Fate franchise, which includes F/SN, F/Z, Fate/kaleid liner Prisma Illya, etc. It is all thanks to this guy I guess. |
Mar 17, 2021 10:15 PM
#16
Deago said: Chiibi said: @JohnGalt89 True...but the thing Eva has over Fate is the amount of time it's been around. 1995 so...a good decade or so, yes? That Fate could overtake that BY SO MUCH MORE (looking at the chart) is impressive, for sure. You have to remember that that was only F/GO, not the whole Fate franchise, which includes F/SN, F/Z, Fate/kaleid liner Prisma Illya, etc. It is all thanks to this guy I guess. Isn't saying that it was "only" FGO a bit misleading though? Since FGO features characters from these other iterations as well. It would actually be interesting to see how much FGO's popularity is driven by characters from the original visual novels/anime versus its own original characters. Because I know there are extremely popular characters on both sides. |
Mar 17, 2021 10:18 PM
#17
people are horny and do anything to get their rocks off thats the answer. |
Mar 17, 2021 10:21 PM
#18
JohnGalt89 said: Deago said: Chiibi said: @JohnGalt89 True...but the thing Eva has over Fate is the amount of time it's been around. 1995 so...a good decade or so, yes? That Fate could overtake that BY SO MUCH MORE (looking at the chart) is impressive, for sure. You have to remember that that was only F/GO, not the whole Fate franchise, which includes F/SN, F/Z, Fate/kaleid liner Prisma Illya, etc. It is all thanks to this guy I guess. Isn't saying that it was "only" FGO a bit misleading though? Since FGO features characters from these other iterations as well. It would actually be interesting to see how much FGO's popularity is driven by characters from the original visual novels/anime versus its own original characters. Because I know there are extremely popular characters on both sides. It is possible by comparing the character's popularity in H-works/cosplay individually, but unfortunately that requires a lot of effort due to the hugh cast of characters in Fate franchise. But then again, yes, you are right. |
Mar 18, 2021 4:07 AM
#19
Interesting statistics. I'll have to take a longer moment to make a proper guess, but I'll say quantity and variety are definitely contributors. Or, to put it another way, F/GO has 300+ characters and covers basically every fetish so that'll be it. |
Well I for one already loved Lain. |
Mar 18, 2021 6:48 AM
#20
Fate Grand Order? more like Fate Grand ORGY! but FGO got hundreds of waifus and husbando with different character designs so its no surprise that its popular |
Mar 18, 2021 7:31 AM
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Mar 18, 2021 8:42 AM
#22
Catalano said: why the hell is there so much porn of sailor moon? please tell me 99% of those are cute cosplays anyways, I guess popularity is a huge factor I am afraid 99% of those offical cosplays are "erotic ones" (it sells better). |
Mar 18, 2021 8:42 AM
#23
Judevin said: T1mma said: Should it?Judevin said: The only thing that surprised me is how FGO is the most popular franchise for r34 content. Tatsumaki over Fubuki though? I mean, alright. Ai Haibara r34? My fellow weebs never fail to be true degenerates lmfao. Interesting study though nonetheless. That FGO one should be the most expected though tbh lol Damn, I guess I don't spend enough time browse r34 content then. I always thought the highest r34 content would be a long running shounen like One Piece or Fairy Tail, specifically because the character design is just borderline hentai anyway. You just haven't been in the FGO fandom lol. They are the peak of degeneracy |
Mar 18, 2021 8:55 AM
#24
T1mma said: Judevin said: T1mma said: Judevin said: The only thing that surprised me is how FGO is the most popular franchise for r34 content. Tatsumaki over Fubuki though? I mean, alright. Ai Haibara r34? My fellow weebs never fail to be true degenerates lmfao. Interesting study though nonetheless. That FGO one should be the most expected though tbh lol Damn, I guess I don't spend enough time browse r34 content then. I always thought the highest r34 content would be a long running shounen like One Piece or Fairy Tail, specifically because the character design is just borderline hentai anyway. You just haven't been in the FGO fandom lol. They are the peak of degeneracy I don't think we should call the fandom degenerate just because many artists and erotic cosplaying companies are exploiting the public appeal of F/GO character designs. I myself haven't watched nor played any F/GO related titles, yet I still see how F/GO fulfills almost every fetishes with its flashy looking characters as @Thigh_Tide added. Takashi Takeuchi is a brilliant designer, in fact, Fate Stay Night 2004 was meant to be an attention grabbing novel game with sex and rape scenes in it. Though, you could argue that gamers make a higher percentage of "rule34"'s audience than those who prefer watching anime>playing anime games. Or maybe character designers usually put more effort and uniqueness in when working on video games, or it could be due to budget allocation is different in games than anime. |
DeagoMar 18, 2021 9:09 AM
Mar 18, 2021 9:09 AM
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Deago said: Chiibi said: @JohnGalt89 True...but the thing Eva has over Fate is the amount of time it's been around. 1995 so...a good decade or so, yes? That Fate could overtake that BY SO MUCH MORE (looking at the chart) is impressive, for sure. You have to remember that that was only F/GO, not the whole Fate franchise, which includes F/SN, F/Z, Fate/kaleid liner Prisma Illya, etc. It is all thanks to this guy I guess. Can you play as Saber and the other characters from F/SN in FGO? I can't imagine they wouldn't make that an option. xD @Catalano Sailor Moon is without a doubt the most successful magical girl series of all time and made the genre explode with flying colors in the 90s. Men like magical girl series for....pervy reasons. xD But I mean...young girls in super-short skirts? Even the director Junichi Sato is said to be somewhat of a perv and liked directing pervy shots into the anime...which made the manga author Takeuchi, rather angry. |
ChiibiMar 18, 2021 9:13 AM
Mar 18, 2021 9:21 AM
#26
Chiibi said: Deago said: Chiibi said: @JohnGalt89 True...but the thing Eva has over Fate is the amount of time it's been around. 1995 so...a good decade or so, yes? That Fate could overtake that BY SO MUCH MORE (looking at the chart) is impressive, for sure. You have to remember that that was only F/GO, not the whole Fate franchise, which includes F/SN, F/Z, Fate/kaleid liner Prisma Illya, etc. It is all thanks to this guy I guess. Can you play as Saber and the other characters from F/SN in FGO? I can't imagine they wouldn't make that an option. xD Only 1 "saber"? I assume you can play as more than 10 or 11 different saber skins. Let's see, regular blue saber, red saber, saber alter, saber lily, baseball saber, Lancer Artoria, Bunny saber, a suit saber, a male saber, Lancer Artoria alter, Archer Artoria, Archer artoria alter, Rider Artoria, Rider Artoria alter, berserker Artoria, berserker Artoria alter, caster Artoria, caster Artoria alter, assassin artoria, assassin artoria alter, etc. |
DeagoMar 18, 2021 9:26 AM
Mar 18, 2021 9:23 AM
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Mar 18, 2021 9:24 AM
#28
Pretty much what you said. Fate is massively popular with a wide variety of characters and majority of them have good character designs, as seen in F/GO. And due to having a wide roster of characters with different personalities, it covers pretty much every fetish imaginable, which is kind of the reason why gacha games such as F/GO and Azur Lane have so much doujinshi and fan arts. |
Mar 18, 2021 9:35 AM
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Jan 13, 2022 10:45 AM
#30
Deago said: In this observational study, we chose 50 popular anime titles How were those fifty titles chosen? |
その目だれの目? |
Jan 13, 2022 9:15 PM
#31
Lucifrost said: Deago said: In this observational study, we chose 50 popular anime titles How were those fifty titles chosen? Picked at random from popularity lists from sites like AniDB (popularity for different years), Anilist, and MAL. |
Jan 13, 2022 9:32 PM
#32
Character design & personality definitely. I've actually already seen 3 completely different JAVs featuring Junko Enoshima & one US porn video of her. |
Little_SheeplingJan 13, 2022 9:45 PM
Jan 13, 2022 9:38 PM
#33
Fate is more popular in Hentai than in any other. That's a fact. You could pile up all the Hentai parody ever existed and still wouldn't be able to near the Fate pile. |
Jan 13, 2022 9:40 PM
#34
rosaliesteame said: I agree with the above, as for me, everything is as simple as possible. I think now this topic is becoming more and more popular. What does the massive development of comics like these https://varick.co/bbs/board.php?bo_table=d01&wr_id=35 say. This reminds me of how Lady Dimitrescu became the driving force behind Resident Evil Village advertising [1, 2, 3]. |
Jan 13, 2022 9:41 PM
#35
Fate doesn't surprise me. As much as I hate to admit it, I've been on NHentai, Simply Hentai, Pururin, etc. for years. I don't personally understand it why people want to jack off to Naruto, but I've definitely seen it. I'm disappointed that Bake and Madoka are that high though...Madoka's literally 10 years old... Fate is an interesting case, however. For those who don't know, Fate originated as porn/hentai VN. That's right, the masterclass that is Fate/Zero originated from a hentai spin-off series. It was official and everything (I believe it was Hollow Ataraxia, or something like that). That just really got the ball rolling for the Doujins. When you also take into-account how vast the Fate/ series is, and how popular Grand Order is, it honestly makes sense. I personally remember when Scathach was first brought into Grand Order's Gacha, and the amount of porn that emerged from that one character was just ludicrous. I am surprised though that Naruto is that low, I would've thought it to be slightly less than where Fate/'s at. |
"Did you forget already? In my word the color "red" doesn't exist. These must be...my tears. Ever since I woke up from my coma...I think I've been waiting for this very moment. You'd do well to remember this, Maya. The only time a lawyer can cry is when it's all over." (Ace Attorney T&T: Bridge to the Turnabout) "I'm my worst critic." (Kendrick Lamar) |
Jan 13, 2022 9:43 PM
#36
LightWorker said: Character design & personality definitely. I've actually already seen 3 completely different JAVs featuring Junko Enoshima & one porn video of her. What in the fuck is a "JAV?" Reminds me of AMVs |
"Did you forget already? In my word the color "red" doesn't exist. These must be...my tears. Ever since I woke up from my coma...I think I've been waiting for this very moment. You'd do well to remember this, Maya. The only time a lawyer can cry is when it's all over." (Ace Attorney T&T: Bridge to the Turnabout) "I'm my worst critic." (Kendrick Lamar) |
Jan 13, 2022 9:44 PM
#37
TheAceAttorney said: LightWorker said: Character design & personality definitely. I've actually already seen 3 completely different JAVs featuring Junko Enoshima & one porn video of her. What in the fuck is a "JAV?" Reminds me of AMVs Japanese Adult Videos (Porn in Japan) |
Jan 13, 2022 9:44 PM
#38
The more otaku appeal and smut, the more the porn. Fate and Eva are peak otaku culture that’s why they have the most. Fate’s fame is literally built on cooming at this point and Eva kickstarted otaku culture so its girls are a classic to lewd. |
CrimsunreaperJan 13, 2022 9:50 PM
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