ChaosPH said: Why the hell is the ratings dropping? The anime is getting intense/thrilling each episodes releases... Are there still people who expects this is a remake? Are there still people disappointed at the art style (It feels that it fits more and more as each episodes releases)? I do not really want to mind the ratings of this anime but it is bugging me tbh... The artstyle and thinking it's a remake aren't the only reason people aren't enjoying the show. I didn't expect it to be a remake, and while I don't like the artsyle, I don't let it affect my score. I just think the show as a whole is a massive disappointment. Which is why I've rated it lowly. And from other people I've talked with about the show, they feel the same way. That's why the score is decreasing. I'd personally say it would be ignorant to assume that the people who rated it lowly only do so because they thought it was a remake or are bothered by the art. Yuyunarutoballz said: it really hurts to see fellow Higurashi “fans” beat this show down when the originals have such a high rating. This is some amazing story telling and I thought the rating would improv now that were not retreading stuff from the previous seasons but I guess not. Are you implying that the ones who dislike this show isn't fans of Higurashi? It doesn't occur to you that maybe the majority of fans simply don't find this show to be nearly as good as the older Higurashi, and that's why the score suffers? |
AvicebronsMar 10, 2021 10:02 AM
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| Haven't read Umineko (yet), but have read and watched Higurashi. I kinda like it, it's just that I think it could've been better if we'd seen more of Rika's perspective in the first few arcs, since her lack of activity is frustrating. Still even if those arcs are mostly recycled material I still like for what those were. As in not very bright I kinda liked going through the first few arcs of gou speculating why things ended up differently, knowing what I know now. And somehow completely missed any involvement with Satoko until the end Tataridamashi-hen where I finally saw her behavior as odd. Right now it's a 7 for me, but we have still some episodes to go so this can still go higher or lower. |
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| I watched the anime adaptation of umineko and it really isnt helping me understand Gou better. The two things I picked up were Bernkastel and St Lucia Academy, that’s it. I know reading/playing the visual novel could probably give me more context, but if you can only watch the anime then don’t even bother, just look up the easter eggs. |
NelsonReal said: I watched the anime adaptation of umineko and it really isnt helping me understand Gou better. The two things I picked up were Bernkastel and St Lucia Academy, that’s it. I know reading/playing the visual novel could probably give me more context, but if you can only watch the anime then don’t even bother, just look up the easter eggs. The anime adaptation only covers half of the story. Read the VN OR Read the Manga. Whatever you prefer. Youre missing out on half of the story if you just watch the anime. Did you get the answer to the story? Did you see Featherine? Do you know who Erika is? So on and so forth. The remaining part Chiru, is what makes Umineko really great. Regardless of that with what weve seen so far Umineko wont really help you understand Gou better but.. knowledge of the extended Higurashi arcs might. |
ChargecoulombMar 10, 2021 11:23 PM
| Mostly because of first timers and maybe a few people that haven't read Umineko. Reading Umineko does make it more intresting but overall I don't think that it's much worse if you don't get the Umineko stuff At least MAL is the only place I've seen that has a more negative attitude towards Higurashi Gou. Most people on other platforms seem to enjoy it and with the confirmation that we're getting at least 30 episodes, the fear of it being rushed it all but gone |
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| [quote=Avicebrons message=62280080] ChaosPH said: Yuyunarutoballz said: it really hurts to see fellow Higurashi “fans” beat this show down when the originals have such a high rating. This is some amazing story telling and I thought the rating would improv now that were not retreading stuff from the previous seasons but I guess not. Are you implying that the ones who dislike this show isn't fans of Higurashi? It doesn't occur to you that maybe the majority of fans simply don't find this show to be nearly as good as the older Higurashi, and that's why the score suffers? Not at all. I think a large portion has to do with either people who think it’s a remake, or people who don’t like the art style. Or people who are salty the OG Higurashi had an ending and this is continuing the “story” I guarantee if this had come out the same time as the other Higurashi’s there wouldn’t be this pushback. The rika and Satoko developments are some of the most interesting stuff the series has seen thus far (not counting its multiverse counterparts) Even the creator himself Ryukishi07 seems quite proud and fond of this new installment. Nostalgia fans are the worst. Just like DB Super. The series didn’t get worst, you’re just remembering it wrong/fondly |
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The_Marill said: The second you said it in red made you just look like a douchebag, I hope you know that. You can disagree with someone without trying to make your opinion look superior. That being said, I don't quite agree with everything LARGEWOOD claims. There are some good points that need to be refined but other parts are just assumptions. And we all know what happens when someone assumes things. Wow some people really cant take a joke, even when the post that is replied to is clearly a troll post. Nice assumptions there pal. |
The_Marill said: ssjokg said: Wow some people really cant take a joke, even when the post that is replied to is clearly a troll post. Nice assumptions there pal. And there you go with assumptions. It's a troll post to you because you don't agree with it. I know that's a hard fact to accept and understand. I've read your posts in other forums. Your joke, or lack there of, is still your feigned superiority. It stops being a joke the second you claim it was one because someone called you on your shit. It's not funny. Get a life outside of hating people and things on Internet forums. Go outside and touch some grass. Who hurt you my guy? I may need to touch some grass but you clearly need someone's else touch. Why so much hate towards someone that didn't even talk to you? Was the nonsensical wall of text they posted that important to you? It is amazing how people can be such assholes for absolutely no reason. 3 words in red triggered you that much? Get help. |
Riley1234 said: Imo the anime’s just kinda meh literally everything that’s just happened with Rika and satoko could of been resolved if they would of talked They did talk. It didn't work out (hence the chandelier incident). |
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| [quote=Yuyunarutoballz message=62294736] Avicebrons said: ChaosPH said: Are you implying that the ones who dislike this show isn't fans of Higurashi? It doesn't occur to you that maybe the majority of fans simply don't find this show to be nearly as good as the older Higurashi, and that's why the score suffers? Not at all. I think a large portion has to do with either people who think it’s a remake, or people who don’t like the art style. Or people who are salty the OG Higurashi had an ending and this is continuing the “story” I guarantee if this had come out the same time as the other Higurashi’s there wouldn’t be this pushback. The rika and Satoko developments are some of the most interesting stuff the series has seen thus far (not counting its multiverse counterparts) Even the creator himself Ryukishi07 seems quite proud and fond of this new installment. Nostalgia fans are the worst. Just like DB Super. The series didn’t get worst, you’re just remembering it wrong/fondly I really want to say that I couldn't agree with you more. I've seen so many negative reviews that don't elaborate on the weaknesses of this anime beyond "it's a bad remake", "it's a bad compromise between a remake and sequel", "I don't know what's going on", "the original Higurashi didn't need a sequel", and "the first cour was boring". I genuinely hope someone who did give this anime a negative review eventually elaborates more because imo, none of these points justify a score this low. |
The_Marill said: So you're basically saying Mr. Wood was wrong. Whats wrong in pointing it out?The second you said it in red made you just look like a douchebag, I hope you know that. You can disagree with someone without trying to make your opinion look superior. That being said, I don't quite agree with everything LARGEWOOD claims. There are some good points that need to be refined but other parts are just assumptions. And we all know what happens when someone assumes things. Using the red might seem a bit elitistic at points, but if it's used correctly, then too bad for the others on being wrong. It's not about opinions. The_Marill said: Man, it's winter out there ._.Go outside and touch some grass. Rinkusan said: Well that's a bit biased.I genuinely hope someone who did give this anime a negative review eventually elaborates more because imo, none of these points justify a score this low. 7 is "good" by no means is it as you say, low. You'd probably prefer it be around 8 or 9, but that's going on the subjective domain. I think you ought to elaborate why "it's a bad remake", "it's a bad compromise between a remake and sequel", "I don't know what's going on", "the original Higurashi didn't need a sequel", and "the first cour was boring" doesn't justify a "low" score. |
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| I wonder if these back and forths will eventually develop into a fully fledged forum Drama. Generally though if you treat other peoples opinions with respect odds are theyll treat yours the same. If you start arguing with the argument that 'I dont need counterarguments because these arnt arguments' Im not sure what youre expecting? Walls of text? Theres plenty of that in the past threads. |
Hulio said: Well that's a bit biased. 7 is "good" by no means is it as you say, low. You'd probably prefer it be around 8 or 9, but that's going on the subjective domain. I think you ought to elaborate why "it's a bad remake", "it's a bad compromise between a remake and sequel", "I don't know what's going on", "the original Higurashi didn't need a sequel", and "the first cour was boring" doesn't justify a "low" score. I mean, of course it is biased. It's an opinion after all, and every opinion in existence is inherently biased. For an anime of this quality, a solid 7 to me is abysmally low and is just as subjective as your view that 7 is not low. Of course; I'm happy to elaborate: - "It's a bad remake" and "it's a bad compromise between remake and sequel" is a poor critique to provide to an anime that is a straight-up sequel. - "I don't know what's going on" reviews generated by newcoming viewers, who granted are understandably lost, is, again, a poor reason for the score that we have today for the exact same reason: the fact that this is a sequel. Score-wise, it's the equivalent of giving Re: Zero season 2 a 3/10 for not making any sense because the viewer never watched season 1. - "The original Higurashi didn't need a sequel" is a poor critique because you're not scoring the anime based on its quality and merits; rather, you're scoring it poorly merely for existing. I personally think this specific type of critique is universally poor no matter the anime or any work of art. - "The first cour was boring" is a perfectly fine opinion to have. Unfortunately, the reviews that take this stance often don't go into detail, and the ones that do try to justify their stance say nothing more than "it's a lazy copy of Higurashi season 1 with small changes". There's zero attempt to understand the author's intent in any review of this type that I've read so far. I personally absolutely loved the first cour because it was basically a fun "Who's the culprit?" detail-oriented mystery game, so of course I have a completely opposite opinion; I'm just disappointed that none of the negative reviews at least address this aspect of the first cour. |
Riley1234 said: that was after I posted this wouldn’t say they talked either satoko just shouted at her then used some magical powers to Make the chandelier fall in command I completely disagree; that was pretty clearly a dialogue that Rika played a huge part in. Did her lines like the one about Satoko putting herself below her [Rika] not stand out to you? |
Rinkusan said: Hulio said: Well that's a bit biased. 7 is "good" by no means is it as you say, low. You'd probably prefer it be around 8 or 9, but that's going on the subjective domain. I think you ought to elaborate why "it's a bad remake", "it's a bad compromise between a remake and sequel", "I don't know what's going on", "the original Higurashi didn't need a sequel", and "the first cour was boring" doesn't justify a "low" score. I mean, of course it is biased. It's an opinion after all, and every opinion in existence is inherently biased. For an anime of this quality, a solid 7 to me is abysmally low and is just as subjective as your view that 7 is not low. Of course; I'm happy to elaborate: - "It's a bad remake" and "it's a bad compromise between remake and sequel" is a poor critique to provide to an anime that is a straight-up sequel. - "I don't know what's going on" reviews generated by newcoming viewers, who granted are understandably lost, is, again, a poor reason for the score that we have today for the exact same reason: the fact that this is a sequel. Score-wise, it's the equivalent of giving Re: Zero season 2 a 3/10 for not making any sense because the viewer never watched season 1. - "The original Higurashi didn't need a sequel" is a poor critique because you're not scoring the anime based on its quality and merits; rather, you're scoring it poorly merely for existing. I personally think this specific type of critique is universally poor no matter the anime or any work of art. - "The first cour was boring" is a perfectly fine opinion to have. Unfortunately, the reviews that take this stance often don't go into detail, and the ones that do try to justify their stance say nothing more than "it's a lazy copy of Higurashi season 1 with small changes". There's zero attempt to understand the author's intent in any review of this type that I've read so far. I personally absolutely loved the first cour because it was basically a fun "Who's the culprit?" detail-oriented mystery game, so of course I have a completely opposite opinion; I'm just disappointed that none of the negative reviews at least address this aspect of the first cour. I think most of these can be considered opinions rather than actual criticism. Once again there was a major discussion about this some episodes back. Youll probably find better criticism there. Isnt the remake sequel a moot point? Its not something in favour or against Gou (relatively speaking). Due to Ryuukishi trolling and further misconceptions in the west this was marketed and talked about as a remake. |
ChargecoulombMar 12, 2021 9:49 AM
Riley1234 said: Rinkusan said: not really the show was dog water up until about episode twenty so haven’t payed 100% attentionI completely disagree; that was pretty clearly a dialogue that Rika played a huge part in. Did her lines like the one about Satoko putting herself below her [Rika] not stand out to you? Okay, but opinion about the show as a whole aside, you acknowledge that your description of the talk is inaccurate, right? They did talk, and it unfortunately didn't fix anything. |
Chargecoulomb said: I think most of these can be considered opinions rather than actual criticism. Once again there was a major discussion about this some episodes back. Youll probably find better criticism there. Isnt the remake sequel a moot point? Its not something in favour or against Gou (relatively speaking). Due to Ryuukishi trolling and further misconceptions in the west this was marketed and talked about as a remake. They're both aren't they? Or, for clarity, do you mean "serious criticism" when you say "actual criticism"? Do you have a specific episode thread you could direct me towards for discussion on this same topic? It absolutely is a moot point, and that's exactly what I'm saying as a reason as to why I think the negative reviews that completely rely on this idea that Gou is a "remake" or a "sequel-remake" are poor critiques of the show; they're not relevant to a solid sequel anime. |
Riley1234 said: the question was about why the shows ratings I answered with that because a bunch of random dumb shit happens in this anime, such as satoko having magical powers and making the chandelier fall also satoko is written to just be an awful person with not many redeeming quality’s The OP is about the show's ratings. But my reply to your comment was about "literally everything that’s just happened with Rika and satoko could of been resolved if they would of talked". |
Riley1234 said: dawg I ain’t gonna argue with you I respect your opinion that higurashi is a ten out of ten and I understand that your hurt that people don’t see it that way but Imo it’s not and like i said before when I posted this comment they hadn’t talked I was perfectly fine with your reply about your comment coming out before the episode, but then you doubled-down by saying it really wasn't a talk. And as much as I wanted to assume good faith, now it looks like you're pulling a red herring by deflecting to something we weren't even talking about. I'm sorry that you seem to be taking my disagreement personally, but would you mind toning down the sassy ad hominem just a bit? I'm just here to share my perspective and comment on others as respectfully as I can, just like everyone else in these forums; not here to have an ego fight. |
Rinkusan said: The problem with a review hubs like this that there's no standards on reviewing.I mean, of course it is biased. It's an opinion after all, and every opinion in existence is inherently biased. For an anime of this quality, a solid 7 to me is abysmally low and is just as subjective as your view that 7 is not low. I don't know how you've been rating things, but the section itself defines 7 as "Good", 8 as "Very Good" and so on. So yes, 7 is "Good" for me around here, and been since the beginning. Then again, if you only ment that it was "low" because you like it and would rate it higher it's another story. - "It's a bad remake" and "it's a bad compromise between remake and sequel" is a poor critique to provide to an anime that is a straight-up sequel. Well I see your stance, yes it kinda is a bad way to critique when it is indeed sequel.However, it was marketed as a "remake/bad compromise" so to me it's a bit like they got what they called for. - "I don't know what's going on" reviews generated by newcoming viewers, who granted are understandably lost, is, again, a poor reason for the score that we have today for the exact same reason: the fact that this is a sequel. Score-wise, it's the equivalent of giving Re: Zero season 2 a 3/10 for not making any sense because the viewer never watched season 1. As mentioned above, they marketed this as newcomer friendly (or trolled whatever), and as you say, of course new comers are understandably lost. That doesn't mean they can't rate it as it was marketed. Apparently they ARE a big part of the target audience.Hint for devs, next time don't pull bullshit like this. - "The original Higurashi didn't need a sequel" is a poor critique because you're not scoring the anime based on its quality and merits; rather, you're scoring it poorly merely for existing. I personally think this specific type of critique is universally poor no matter the anime or any work of art. Yeah I agree that this is a poor reason to give it a low score. But as it is, it's perfectly valid opinion.I haven't read much of the reviews, so I can't say if this is a reason for their poor scores, or merely a result of it. - "The first cour was boring" is a perfectly fine opinion to have. Unfortunately, the reviews that take this stance often don't go into detail, and the ones that do try to justify their stance say nothing more than "it's a lazy copy of Higurashi season 1 with small changes". I agree, but that affects all critique, not only the negative ones. If you don't explain your points, it's more of an opinion than critique. That being said, people always have had rated stuff based purely on their opinions. Goes the same for the haters as for the fanboys.If I'd were to share one of my grievances in the ratings, I understand that people eventually rate the shows even before they've finished them, but giving the show a 10/10 since ep 1 is just stupid. |
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Riley1234 said: loool Idek what hominem means bro sorry that you felt insulted by what I said but I do respect your opinion and you seem like a cool guy think we’re just gonna have to respectfully disagree with each other on this one Ad hominem - directed against a person rather than the position they are maintaining. I'm perfectly fine with respectfully disagreeing with you, but considering the passive-aggressive language, deflection, and ad hominem double-down that you're pulling here, it unfortunately doesn't seem like you are, contrary to what you're saying. Appreciate having a dialogue with you either way. |
Hulio said: The problem with a review hubs like this that there's no standards on reviewing. I don't know how you've been rating things, but the section itself defines 7 as "Good", 8 as "Very Good" and so on. So yes, 7 is "Good" for me around here, and been since the beginning. Then again, if you only ment that it was "low" because you like it and would rate it higher it's another story. Well I see your stance, yes it kinda is a bad way to critique when it is indeed sequel. However, it was marketed as a "remake/bad compromise" so to me it's a bit like they got what they called for. As mentioned above, they marketed this as newcomer friendly (or trolled whatever), and as you say, of course new comers are understandably lost. That doesn't mean they can't rate it as it was marketed. Apparently they ARE a big part of the target audience. Hint for devs, next time don't pull bullshit like this. Yeah I agree that this is a poor reason to give it a low score. But as it is, it's perfectly valid opinion. I haven't read much of the reviews, so I can't say if this is a reason for their poor scores, or merely a result of it. I agree, but that affects all critique, not only the negative ones. If you don't explain your points, it's more of an opinion than critique. That being said, people always have had rated stuff based purely on their opinions. Goes the same for the haters as for the fanboys. If I'd were to share one of my grievances in the ratings, I understand that people eventually rate the shows even before they've finished them, but giving the show a 10/10 since ep 1 is just stupid. In terms of reviewing anime, I am basically a newborn to the website since I've only been using MAL for years to find anime rather than engage with fellow viewers, so I appreciate the insight into how MAL sees the 1-10 scale. With that said though, my way of interpreting the score for the longest time has been comparing the score of the anime I'm considering to other anime. Higurashi's 7.03 score is comparable to God of High School's 7.06 and underwhelming compared to Sword Art Online's 7.42 for example, hence my fervent disagreement with the score even though I can see why some would consider the anime "good". Yeah, I get that newcomers were roped in, and after browsing a few more threads, I found one from Shymander that pointed out the newcomers on MAL watching Gou are a straight-up majority of 60%, so the 7.03 score is starting to make much more sense to me; granted I don't know what the statistic is now. For sure; my criticism of negative reviews that don't justify their position in proper detail applies to any inadequately-explained positive reviews as well. Sorry for the confusion here; for this part, do you mean giving a show a 10/10 "by" episode 1 (ranking prematurely) or "since" episode 1 (every episode from 1-23 is a 10/10 in their book)? If it's the former, I completely agree, no matter the anime, and especially for Gou. |
Rinkusan said: Well I can't really see how "MAL" sees the scale. As I mentioned before, there's no standards. People's method of rating stuff varies a lot.In terms of reviewing anime, I am basically a newborn to the website since I've only been using MAL for years to find anime rather than engage with fellow viewers, so I appreciate the insight into how MAL sees the 1-10 scale. Personally, when I started rating, clicking the score shows 7 as good, 9 as great and 5 as average. And that's how I've rated them. The problem is that some people doesn't look or even care about that, thinks 7 is a bad score, and everything 9-10 is good, so they keep rating half of their stuff with 10s. The ratings by these different types of raters aren't really comparable. With that said though, my way of interpreting the score for the longest time has been comparing the score of the anime I'm considering to other anime. Higurashi's 7.03 score is comparable to God of High School's 7.06 and underwhelming compared to Sword Art Online's 7.42 for example. Well, you gotta compare to something I guess. However a deviation of <0,5 points doesn't really mean anything here. Also, I can speak from experience that there's alot of underwhelming, even bad shows which are getting 8+ and some very good ones are at ~7. The scores are highly directional only.The most cohesive metric here is to check the scores of the top 4 reviewers of a show. Sorry for the confusion here; for this part, do you mean giving a show a 10/10 "by" episode 1 (ranking prematurely) or "since" episode 1 (every episode from 1-23 is a 10/10 in their book)? If it's the former, I completely agree, no matter the anime, and especially for Gou. I mean giving the whole series that 10, which is counted on the score we've been talking about.When this started, I'm pretty sure almost 20% of all ratings we're already sitting at 10. The_Marill said: The point on this instance however is, that he was "assuming" many things which simply put, were wrong.I'm solely going to say that there's a difference between using red for a fact and using red because you disagree. No, I don't agree with everything LARGEWOOD said but I do with some of it. I've been on these threads since this show started and have read most of the replies (tho lately I keep skipping most of the "new guys'" posts) and I'm fairly certain it's the same for ssjkog. When you're assuming something that isn't correct, and basing your opinions on that falsehood. There's nothing more left than to be wrong. Also, I respect you greatly because you respond to somebody piece by piece and explaining your viewpoint. You don't hold your opinion higher than somebody else's. You're a good person. (I'm totally not biased because of the Konata dressed as Haruhi pfp.) Oh but of course I'm right :)One wise man once said. "You can't argue about facts, only about opinions" |
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dickieb said: Hey there @ssjokg I know it's een a while since you posted this, i just saw this and wanted to respond: ssjokg said: @ViktorLocke 2)Some fans accept Gou just because they want to make theories about what is going on. I dont agree that Ryuukishi isnt a genius. But something went wrong with Gou. Ryukishi is the kind of person who will write amazing stuff sometimes, and mediocre stuff other times. He's just not always at the top of his game. Higanbana is a good example of this. Kindof good at times but also mediocre at times. 3)Being a extremely violent and unrealistic are different things. Satoko torturing Rika is made in such a stupid way. A chandelier dropping on two kids doesnt make a fountain of blood, making deep cuts on your neck doesnt happen on the first try. 4)She has no pockets. And she is a 9year old. A gun's shape would be visible and with Rena being so touchy all the time it would be felt as well, not to mention that they change clothes for PE and run around for their games. There is no way she can hide it without anyone noticing. I think it's kindof pointless to find reasons for this silly stuff when the original series was pretty lenient on it to begin with. In the original series, a 15(?) year old girl living out in the sticks without internet access figured out how to make a makeshift timebomb, another girl lived through 100+ years of the same thing happening over again with minor variations without mentally breaking, another girl has the strength to shove a teenage boy twice her weight class off a bridge with guard rails, pick up groceries he can barely lift, not to mention she pushed her parents off a ledge at an even earlier age, plus she survived stabbing until her killer went for the head. And most importantly of all, a bunch of silly afterschool games full of cheating can train 3 teenagers and 2 children to hold their own against trained government agents as long as they work together. This series has always had a bunch of dumb bullshit in it. The thing that made Higurashi good was none of those things. So basically ignore all the bullshit and it is good. No it doesn't work like that. A murder mystery where the culprit can pull a gun or a murder device out of thin air is just fanfiction. |
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Riley1234 said: Imo the anime’s just kinda meh literally everything that’s just happened with Rika and satoko could of been resolved if they would of talked I want to point out that “friendship” isnt the secret weapon here. |
Riley1234 said: Cholcora said: nah dawg haven’t seen any of the others this is my first higurashiJust wait until finished, I think the score will go up again and unfortunately there's so many thinking Gou as remake. Do you realized all tragedies in Higurashi S1 and S2 happen just because Miyo playing come to her house friend? Well welcome to the club! |
| OK BUT. Imagine rating a show before finishing it..... or before dropping it... |
dickieb said: Hey there @ssjokg I know it's een a while since you posted this, i just saw this and wanted to respond: ssjokg said: @ViktorLocke 2)Some fans accept Gou just because they want to make theories about what is going on. I dont agree that Ryuukishi isnt a genius. But something went wrong with Gou. Ryukishi is the kind of person who will write amazing stuff sometimes, and mediocre stuff other times. He's just not always at the top of his game. Higanbana is a good example of this. Kindof good at times but also mediocre at times. 3)Being a extremely violent and unrealistic are different things. Satoko torturing Rika is made in such a stupid way. A chandelier dropping on two kids doesnt make a fountain of blood, making deep cuts on your neck doesnt happen on the first try. 4)She has no pockets. And she is a 9year old. A gun's shape would be visible and with Rena being so touchy all the time it would be felt as well, not to mention that they change clothes for PE and run around for their games. There is no way she can hide it without anyone noticing. I think it's kindof pointless to find reasons for this silly stuff when the original series was pretty lenient on it to begin with. In the original series, a 15(?) year old girl living out in the sticks without internet access figured out how to make a makeshift timebomb, another girl lived through 100+ years of the same thing happening over again with minor variations without mentally breaking, another girl has the strength to shove a teenage boy twice her weight class off a bridge with guard rails, pick up groceries he can barely lift, not to mention she pushed her parents off a ledge at an even earlier age, plus she survived stabbing until her killer went for the head. And most importantly of all, a bunch of silly afterschool games full of cheating can train 3 teenagers and 2 children to hold their own against trained government agents as long as they work together. This series has always had a bunch of dumb bullshit in it. The thing that made Higurashi good was none of those things. I understand the point about the wacky VN shenanigans, but to say events are illogical is a bit.... Meh. It had its logic and it did follow it. Gou has some problems in its like in Regards to Satoko and Rikas deaths I pointed out earlier. I don't remember how Rena made the bomb but I remember reading the VN and going 'oh that is simple after all. It was fairly ingenious too, I wish I could remember it properly. HS makes you paranoid/delusional and most importantly desperate. It's not like Rena didn't have access to Information after all. Satoko didn't push Keichii off the bridge. He was unharmed after all. Probably just HS hallucinations. Satoko pushing off her parents isn't really a hard thing to believe. All the club did was delay (and scare) the Yamainu. Let's be honest all of them would be dead unless the Banken showed up when they did. |
Riley1234 said: can you tell me why you think higurashi is a 10/10 see if you can change my mind from it being dog water I mean, I'm not sure what you're expecting from me since all I was doing was commenting on your initial comment's "they should have just talked". I don't know what your anime tastes are, and I don't know what specific things you look for in a 10/10 anime. I'm more than happy to share why I think it's a 10/10 anime, but I'm not here to gaslight you if that's what you're asking of me. Understand that I respect your opinion of the "dog-water" anime but don't respect the dishonest red herrings and sassy ad hominem tactics you were pulling earlier. Anyway, as you asked, here's my experience of the anime that led me to give it a 10/10. To me, this anime is 10/10 because it's a thematically amazing and realistically thoughtful follow-up to the original Higurashi that explores how fragile a friendship can be after the original explored the complete opposite. I personally love a good mystery, so the first cour to me was a fun 7-8/10 mystery game. The shocking character and animation-driven payoff from episode 16 onward drove that up to 9/10, and Satoko's wild yet understandable descent into madness throughout Satokowashi-hen made this anime a 10/10 to me to the point where I'm enjoying Gou way more than the original Higurashi by a landslide. |
dickieb said: Ok the other points were the problems of animation, but these two.In the original series, a 15(?) year old girl living out in the sticks without internet access figured out how to make a makeshift timebomb, another girl lived through 100+ years of the same thing happening over again with minor variations without mentally breaking First of all, that "time bomb" is very easy to make, you only need to know a couple basic principles, which probably are even taught at school. And a girl living 100 years in loop of deaths, well, you can't say anything about it, speaking from experience? And most importantly of all, a bunch of silly afterschool games full of cheating can train 3 teenagers and 2 children to hold their own against trained government agents as long as they work together. This is I agree a bit on, there definitely was a couple stupid things regarding this.LustrousParadox said: Imagine dropping a show before finishing it.OK BUT. Imagine rating a show before finishing it..... or before dropping it... |
Intelligent gets through situations which wise avoids. |
| im not sure maybe bc there isnt as much gore scenes in this new arc and ive been seeing people get annoyed with how this arc is going also which i can see why but i still find it interesting since i am a big fan of the show. |
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Rinkusan said: Riley1234 said: can you tell me why you think higurashi is a 10/10 see if you can change my mind from it being dog water I mean, I'm not sure what you're expecting from me since all I was doing was commenting on your initial comment's "they should have just talked". I don't know what your anime tastes are, and I don't know what specific things you look for in a 10/10 anime. I'm more than happy to share why I think it's a 10/10 anime, but I'm not here to gaslight you if that's what you're asking of me. Understand that I respect your opinion of the "dog-water" anime but don't respect the dishonest red herrings and sassy ad hominem tactics you were pulling earlier. Anyway, as you asked, here's my experience of the anime that led me to give it a 10/10. To me, this anime is 10/10 because it's a thematically amazing and realistically thoughtful follow-up to the original Higurashi that explores how fragile a friendship can be after the original explored the complete opposite. I personally love a good mystery, so the first cour to me was a fun 7-8/10 mystery game. The shocking character and animation-driven payoff from episode 16 onward drove that up to 9/10, and Satoko's wild yet understandable descent into madness throughout Satokowashi-hen made this anime a 10/10 to me to the point where I'm enjoying Gou way more than the original Higurashi by a landslide. Honestly though I think only the absolute best of the best should deserve a 10. Anime that turned the industry upside down and changed the people who watched it. My score for Gou so far is 5 which means decent in my eyes. I'll probably raise it to six soon, but I don't think it deserves a 10. |
Hulio said: dickieb said: Ok the other points were the problems of animation, but these two.In the original series, a 15(?) year old girl living out in the sticks without internet access figured out how to make a makeshift timebomb, another girl lived through 100+ years of the same thing happening over again with minor variations without mentally breaking First of all, that "time bomb" is very easy to make, you only need to know a couple basic principles, which probably are even taught at school. And a girl living 100 years in loop of deaths, well, you can't say anything about it, speaking from experience? And most importantly of all, a bunch of silly afterschool games full of cheating can train 3 teenagers and 2 children to hold their own against trained government agents as long as they work together. This is I agree a bit on, there definitely was a couple stupid things regarding this.LustrousParadox said: Imagine dropping a show before finishing it.OK BUT. Imagine rating a show before finishing it..... or before dropping it... imagine........ |
girltokyo said: im not sure maybe bc there isnt as much gore scenes in this new arc and ive been seeing people get annoyed with how this arc is going also which i can see why but i still find it interesting since i am a big fan of the show. I've seen people give it a low score because they don't like the gore scenes. |
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ManWild said: girltokyo said: im not sure maybe bc there isnt as much gore scenes in this new arc and ive been seeing people get annoyed with how this arc is going also which i can see why but i still find it interesting since i am a big fan of the show. I've seen people give it a low score because they don't like the gore scenes. higurashi is fairly known for having a lot of gory scenes so kinda stupid thats why they decided too low score it bc of that, especially if they know what they are getting into |
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