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The top 20 most favorited characters have an all-out battle against each other: who would win?
Feb 18, 2021 2:12 PM
#101
ClickBaitBuster said: Why do I need to give you a scenario when I can just give you stats, Naruto has speeds that Itachi has never even seen before, he could literally blitz him so fastSageModeTice said: You still didn't give me a plausible scenario where Naruto actually beat Itachi. I mean I'm not going to compare the worst version of Itachi to the best version of Naruto, how about Itachi with Shisui's mangekyo that doesn't even need eye contact to activate the genjutsu, how about Edo Tensei Itachi who doesn't even need to use Izanagi to be invincible, how about Itachi with totsuka sword that can seal anything it pierces and yata mirror that can repel/negate all? That is the best version of Itachi.ClickBaitBuster said: SageModeTice said: Ok so I told you why I think Itachi can beat Naruto, you disagreed with me which is fine, but your disagreement won't hold any water unless you give me a concrete reason as to why you think Itachi can't beat Naruto other than "Naruto too STRONK"ClickBaitBuster said: If you actually think Hokage Naruto would be caught into a genjustu by Itachi you are completely bias, I’ll admit you are right about Tsukiyomi, but as you see I was right about them being immune to any other genjustu as they snap out in mere seconds. Hokage Naruto beats Itachi 10/10 anyone who doesn’t think so is Itachi bias at its peak.SageModeTice said: Immune huh? You mean like this..ClickBaitBuster said: someone who has mastered there tailed beast, Killer Bee and Naruto are immune to genjustu because they have tamed there tailed beast.Dazel1412 said: I mean if you gather those character in one arena to fight, you should tell them to go all out from the start or they might die before they know it, or else it won't be a fair fight. Naruto would nuke the the entire area right out of the gate, killing everyone besides Saitama who's invincible against physical attacks, and Itachi who can activate Izanagi to give up one of his eyes in exchange of being invincible for a short amount of time. after that Itachi can use the genjutsu to control Saitama and make him kill Naruto, and then make Saitama kill himself. but if Saitama is fast enough to kill Itachi before Itachi activate the Izanagi then he can win.ClickBaitBuster said: Ok so let me get this straight, people are somehow voting Lelouch because of his ability to hypnotize anyone who have eye contact with his left eye and he must use VERBAL commands to make it work, over motherfucking Itachi, who has the same damn ability but light years better, he can use both his eyes to trigger the hypnosis or set his enemy on fire that can't be put down until it burn him completely, WITHOUT HAVING TO SAY A WORD!!! hell he can even use his fingers to trigger the hypnosis. Also unlike Lelouch he has countless physical/magical abilities to use when the enemy wouldn't make eye contact with his eyes or fingers, not to mention that his one of the smartest characters in his respective anime/manga. I mean it's obvious that these people are just voting for their favorite character and don't care to answer this question objectively at all Lmao But wouldn't all of the experienced fighters go for each other? Would Itachi be more prone to fight back/defend himself before he uses his powers? I've never watched Naruto so I don't really know anything about their powers (all I know is that Itachi is a rogue ninja-assassin), would he be able to target multiple people at once? I'd assume all the strong/experienced fighters in this list would charge straight at each other and turn it into a giant brawl. Lelouch doesn't have any way of fighting besides his gun, Geass, and intelligence (and possibly a Knightmare if he has one present). The second people turn to him, all he needs to do is skip the theatrics and say "I command you all to die". I'd definitely say it's possible Itachi could overpower him if it was just him and Lelouch left, but if Itachi somehow got taken out earlier by another fighter, I'd say it's Lelouch's game. Besides... In Season 2, Lelouch got the Geass in both eyes, and it had gotten so powerful to the point that it's technically permanently on. (It was powerful enough that he Geassed "God"--and though that "God" was present, how much can we say was really true eye contact, since it's not like that "God" had eyes or anything lol) This is just my opinion though, I respect yours :) SageModeTice said: Ok so what is even "perfect Jinchuriki"?ClickBaitBuster said: Naruto cannot be put into genjustu because he is a perfect jinchuriki, how have you watched the whole franchise and still think Itachi stands a chance against Naruto. Naruto and Saitama would be a good one.Casual_Elite said: Well first, Naruto can't break out of the genjutsu himself, he needs the Kyuubi to inject his chakra into him to break him out of it, and by the time that happens Naruto would've at least spent 72 hours in the Genjutsu world which would make him unable to fight anymore. Second, Naruto can fight Itachi 1 on 1 without looking at his eyes or fingers and thus avoiding to fall into his Genjutsu. at the end it all comes down to who can do what and how fast he can do it. Even if Light can somehow write down all of the other characters names without getting killed first by any of them, the death note would only kill them after 40 seconds has passed. And even if Lelouch got somehow everybody to look at his left eye at the same time (which is extremely unlikely), he still needs to give them a verbal order which would take far more time than what it would take either Itachi, Naruto or Saitama to kill everyone else, so the fight would be between those 3. Nothing Naruto could do have any chance of damaging Saitama, Itachi in the other hand can give up one of his sharingans to activate Izanagi and become invincible for a short amount of time, then use Shisui's eye to trigger the ultimate genjutsu that don't require eye contact to control Saitama and make him kill Naruto and then himself.ClickBaitBuster said: I guess than the fight would end with Naruto vs Itachi as Naruto could break from Genjutsu and then I guess Naruto would beat Itachi And with Itachi beaten Everybody would return to normalOk so let me get this straight, people are somehow voting Lelouch because of his ability to hypnotize anyone who have eye contact with his left eye and he must use VERBAL commands to make it work, over motherfucking Itachi, who has the same damn ability but light years better, he can use both his eyes to trigger the hypnotists or set his enemy on fire that can't be put down until it burn him completely, WITHOUT HAVING TO SAY A WORD!!! hell he can even use his fingers to trigger the hypnotists. Also unlike Lelouch he has countless physical/magical abilities to use when the enemy wouldn't make eye contact with his eyes or fingers, not to mention that his one of the smartest characters in his respective anime/manga. I mean it's obvious that these people are just voting for their favorite character and don't care to answer this question objectively at all Lmao Just my hypothesis Or maybe this.. As you can see, Bee clearly fell into the genjutsu both times and needed the Hachibi to break him out of it, which took more than a second. Now if Itachi used the tsukuyomi to slow down the time flow inside the genjutsu world like he did with Kakashi then 72 hours would've passed for every second Bee spent under the genjutsu., even if we assume that the Hachibi would wake him 0.5 second after he fell into it, he would still have spent 36 hours there. 36 hours of mental torture would make him unable to fight anymore. It would seem that someone needs to rewatch the whole franchise indeed, and it's not me. |
Feb 18, 2021 6:18 PM
#102
Saitama would win with only 19 punches |
Feb 18, 2021 6:40 PM
#103
NOTE: Haven't watched One Piece so don't know how strong they are, but they're weaker than Saitama and can't resist genjutsu probably so I doubt they do much. People who instantly die or don't do anything: L, Levi, Edward, Okabe, Killua, Gintoki, Hachiman, Christina, Rem, Mikasa, Kirito, Eren, Guts. Most likely scenario is that Saitama kills them all instantly. He's fast enough to kill Lelouch before he can say anything, Light before he can write anything, and just overpowers Itachi and Naruto easily. The only thing that could do anything to him is if Itachi's genjutsu works, but it probably wouldn't for some reason or another because in the manga Tatsumaki could barely move him and it was said psychic powers were based on your mental fortitude, meaning Saitama has a basically unbreakable mind. Another thing that could happen would be him getting mind controlled by Lelouch, but that would only happen if he wasn't trying to kill him and just waiting around to see what happens. If Saitama wasn't here, Naruto and Itachi fight and Naruto probably wins unless genjutsu was too strong. Light basically can't do anything, even assuming he knows peoples names, because he gets instakilled before he can write anything. Even if he got a name off, he would die to whoever is left after they notice someone mysteriously died and see light sitting with a book. |
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Feb 18, 2021 9:28 PM
#104
SageModeTice said: Well this is not DBZ where the one with the best stats and highest power level always wins, you can give Light Yagami the transperacy from Obito's mangekyo and watch him kill galaxy level opponents easily. So unless you can give me a scenario where Naruto bypasses all Itachi's hax and kills him then your disagreement with me -as I said- won't hold any water.ClickBaitBuster said: Why do I need to give you a scenario when I can just give you stats, Naruto has speeds that Itachi has never even seen before, he could literally blitz him so fastSageModeTice said: ClickBaitBuster said: Naruto is in a different league bro, I know it’s not a great explanation but it does hold merit, and he’s definitely not dumb enough to get caught in genjustu, because he has knowledge of Itachis genjustu, and before you say he got caught in Itachis genjustu two times before. This is a much more smart, and experienced Naruto. Itachi has nothing that could do anything against Naruto if his genjustu won’t work, Naruto is two fast and has tanked an attack that can split the moon. Naruto moves at speed of light feats and reaction speeds. If Naruto got caught in Tsukiyomi, let’s just say if he did, his durability is unrivaled in the series, and he has near limitless chakra, i mean if part 1 kakashi was still standing after he was in it for 3 whole days, a Naruto with genjustu immunity would be at in a day or two tops and be able to go some more. I appreciate you being civil and shit, we could always just agree to disagree, I just think it’s not even a fair fight for Itachi, he is very very powerful, but Naruto is unbelievably broken now and far too experienced.SageModeTice said: Ok so I told you why I think Itachi can beat Naruto, you disagreed with me which is fine, but your disagreement won't hold any water unless you give me a concrete reason as to why you think Itachi can't beat Naruto other than "Naruto too STRONK"ClickBaitBuster said: If you actually think Hokage Naruto would be caught into a genjustu by Itachi you are completely bias, I’ll admit you are right about Tsukiyomi, but as you see I was right about them being immune to any other genjustu as they snap out in mere seconds. Hokage Naruto beats Itachi 10/10 anyone who doesn’t think so is Itachi bias at its peak.SageModeTice said: Immune huh? You mean like this..ClickBaitBuster said: someone who has mastered there tailed beast, Killer Bee and Naruto are immune to genjustu because they have tamed there tailed beast.Dazel1412 said: I mean if you gather those character in one arena to fight, you should tell them to go all out from the start or they might die before they know it, or else it won't be a fair fight. Naruto would nuke the the entire area right out of the gate, killing everyone besides Saitama who's invincible against physical attacks, and Itachi who can activate Izanagi to give up one of his eyes in exchange of being invincible for a short amount of time. after that Itachi can use the genjutsu to control Saitama and make him kill Naruto, and then make Saitama kill himself. but if Saitama is fast enough to kill Itachi before Itachi activate the Izanagi then he can win.ClickBaitBuster said: Ok so let me get this straight, people are somehow voting Lelouch because of his ability to hypnotize anyone who have eye contact with his left eye and he must use VERBAL commands to make it work, over motherfucking Itachi, who has the same damn ability but light years better, he can use both his eyes to trigger the hypnosis or set his enemy on fire that can't be put down until it burn him completely, WITHOUT HAVING TO SAY A WORD!!! hell he can even use his fingers to trigger the hypnosis. Also unlike Lelouch he has countless physical/magical abilities to use when the enemy wouldn't make eye contact with his eyes or fingers, not to mention that his one of the smartest characters in his respective anime/manga. I mean it's obvious that these people are just voting for their favorite character and don't care to answer this question objectively at all Lmao But wouldn't all of the experienced fighters go for each other? Would Itachi be more prone to fight back/defend himself before he uses his powers? I've never watched Naruto so I don't really know anything about their powers (all I know is that Itachi is a rogue ninja-assassin), would he be able to target multiple people at once? I'd assume all the strong/experienced fighters in this list would charge straight at each other and turn it into a giant brawl. Lelouch doesn't have any way of fighting besides his gun, Geass, and intelligence (and possibly a Knightmare if he has one present). The second people turn to him, all he needs to do is skip the theatrics and say "I command you all to die". I'd definitely say it's possible Itachi could overpower him if it was just him and Lelouch left, but if Itachi somehow got taken out earlier by another fighter, I'd say it's Lelouch's game. Besides... In Season 2, Lelouch got the Geass in both eyes, and it had gotten so powerful to the point that it's technically permanently on. (It was powerful enough that he Geassed "God"--and though that "God" was present, how much can we say was really true eye contact, since it's not like that "God" had eyes or anything lol) This is just my opinion though, I respect yours :) SageModeTice said: Ok so what is even "perfect Jinchuriki"?ClickBaitBuster said: Naruto cannot be put into genjustu because he is a perfect jinchuriki, how have you watched the whole franchise and still think Itachi stands a chance against Naruto. Naruto and Saitama would be a good one.Casual_Elite said: Well first, Naruto can't break out of the genjutsu himself, he needs the Kyuubi to inject his chakra into him to break him out of it, and by the time that happens Naruto would've at least spent 72 hours in the Genjutsu world which would make him unable to fight anymore. Second, Naruto can fight Itachi 1 on 1 without looking at his eyes or fingers and thus avoiding to fall into his Genjutsu. at the end it all comes down to who can do what and how fast he can do it. Even if Light can somehow write down all of the other characters names without getting killed first by any of them, the death note would only kill them after 40 seconds has passed. And even if Lelouch got somehow everybody to look at his left eye at the same time (which is extremely unlikely), he still needs to give them a verbal order which would take far more time than what it would take either Itachi, Naruto or Saitama to kill everyone else, so the fight would be between those 3. Nothing Naruto could do have any chance of damaging Saitama, Itachi in the other hand can give up one of his sharingans to activate Izanagi and become invincible for a short amount of time, then use Shisui's eye to trigger the ultimate genjutsu that don't require eye contact to control Saitama and make him kill Naruto and then himself.ClickBaitBuster said: I guess than the fight would end with Naruto vs Itachi as Naruto could break from Genjutsu and then I guess Naruto would beat Itachi And with Itachi beaten Everybody would return to normalOk so let me get this straight, people are somehow voting Lelouch because of his ability to hypnotize anyone who have eye contact with his left eye and he must use VERBAL commands to make it work, over motherfucking Itachi, who has the same damn ability but light years better, he can use both his eyes to trigger the hypnotists or set his enemy on fire that can't be put down until it burn him completely, WITHOUT HAVING TO SAY A WORD!!! hell he can even use his fingers to trigger the hypnotists. Also unlike Lelouch he has countless physical/magical abilities to use when the enemy wouldn't make eye contact with his eyes or fingers, not to mention that his one of the smartest characters in his respective anime/manga. I mean it's obvious that these people are just voting for their favorite character and don't care to answer this question objectively at all Lmao Just my hypothesis Or maybe this.. As you can see, Bee clearly fell into the genjutsu both times and needed the Hachibi to break him out of it, which took more than a second. Now if Itachi used the tsukuyomi to slow down the time flow inside the genjutsu world like he did with Kakashi then 72 hours would've passed for every second Bee spent under the genjutsu., even if we assume that the Hachibi would wake him 0.5 second after he fell into it, he would still have spent 36 hours there. 36 hours of mental torture would make him unable to fight anymore. It would seem that someone needs to rewatch the whole franchise indeed, and it's not me. |
Feb 18, 2021 9:31 PM
#105
Eren by far. Dude has every power in the fucking book. |
Feb 19, 2021 1:03 AM
#106
Lmao, I'm not gonna take you seriously at all with a name like that, but Zoro makes mincemeat out of him. |
Feb 19, 2021 1:42 AM
#107
ClickBaitBuster said: SageModeTice said: Well this is not DBZ where the one with the best stats and highest power level always wins, you can give Light Yagami the transperacy from Obito's mangekyo and watch him kill galaxy level opponents easily. So unless you can give me a scenario where Naruto bypasses all Itachi's hax and kills him then your disagreement with me -as I said- won't hold any water.ClickBaitBuster said: SageModeTice said: You still didn't give me a plausible scenario where Naruto actually beat Itachi. I mean I'm not going to compare the worst version of Itachi to the best version of Naruto, how about Itachi with Shisui's mangekyo that doesn't even need eye contact to activate the genjutsu, how about Edo Tensei Itachi who doesn't even need to use Izanagi to be invincible, how about Itachi with totsuka sword that can seal anything it pierces and yata mirror that can repel/negate all? That is the best version of Itachi.ClickBaitBuster said: Naruto is in a different league bro, I know it’s not a great explanation but it does hold merit, and he’s definitely not dumb enough to get caught in genjustu, because he has knowledge of Itachis genjustu, and before you say he got caught in Itachis genjustu two times before. This is a much more smart, and experienced Naruto. Itachi has nothing that could do anything against Naruto if his genjustu won’t work, Naruto is two fast and has tanked an attack that can split the moon. Naruto moves at speed of light feats and reaction speeds. If Naruto got caught in Tsukiyomi, let’s just say if he did, his durability is unrivaled in the series, and he has near limitless chakra, i mean if part 1 kakashi was still standing after he was in it for 3 whole days, a Naruto with genjustu immunity would be at in a day or two tops and be able to go some more. I appreciate you being civil and shit, we could always just agree to disagree, I just think it’s not even a fair fight for Itachi, he is very very powerful, but Naruto is unbelievably broken now and far too experienced.SageModeTice said: Ok so I told you why I think Itachi can beat Naruto, you disagreed with me which is fine, but your disagreement won't hold any water unless you give me a concrete reason as to why you think Itachi can't beat Naruto other than "Naruto too STRONK"ClickBaitBuster said: If you actually think Hokage Naruto would be caught into a genjustu by Itachi you are completely bias, I’ll admit you are right about Tsukiyomi, but as you see I was right about them being immune to any other genjustu as they snap out in mere seconds. Hokage Naruto beats Itachi 10/10 anyone who doesn’t think so is Itachi bias at its peak.SageModeTice said: Immune huh? You mean like this..ClickBaitBuster said: someone who has mastered there tailed beast, Killer Bee and Naruto are immune to genjustu because they have tamed there tailed beast.Dazel1412 said: I mean if you gather those character in one arena to fight, you should tell them to go all out from the start or they might die before they know it, or else it won't be a fair fight. Naruto would nuke the the entire area right out of the gate, killing everyone besides Saitama who's invincible against physical attacks, and Itachi who can activate Izanagi to give up one of his eyes in exchange of being invincible for a short amount of time. after that Itachi can use the genjutsu to control Saitama and make him kill Naruto, and then make Saitama kill himself. but if Saitama is fast enough to kill Itachi before Itachi activate the Izanagi then he can win.ClickBaitBuster said: Ok so let me get this straight, people are somehow voting Lelouch because of his ability to hypnotize anyone who have eye contact with his left eye and he must use VERBAL commands to make it work, over motherfucking Itachi, who has the same damn ability but light years better, he can use both his eyes to trigger the hypnosis or set his enemy on fire that can't be put down until it burn him completely, WITHOUT HAVING TO SAY A WORD!!! hell he can even use his fingers to trigger the hypnosis. Also unlike Lelouch he has countless physical/magical abilities to use when the enemy wouldn't make eye contact with his eyes or fingers, not to mention that his one of the smartest characters in his respective anime/manga. I mean it's obvious that these people are just voting for their favorite character and don't care to answer this question objectively at all Lmao But wouldn't all of the experienced fighters go for each other? Would Itachi be more prone to fight back/defend himself before he uses his powers? I've never watched Naruto so I don't really know anything about their powers (all I know is that Itachi is a rogue ninja-assassin), would he be able to target multiple people at once? I'd assume all the strong/experienced fighters in this list would charge straight at each other and turn it into a giant brawl. Lelouch doesn't have any way of fighting besides his gun, Geass, and intelligence (and possibly a Knightmare if he has one present). The second people turn to him, all he needs to do is skip the theatrics and say "I command you all to die". I'd definitely say it's possible Itachi could overpower him if it was just him and Lelouch left, but if Itachi somehow got taken out earlier by another fighter, I'd say it's Lelouch's game. Besides... In Season 2, Lelouch got the Geass in both eyes, and it had gotten so powerful to the point that it's technically permanently on. (It was powerful enough that he Geassed "God"--and though that "God" was present, how much can we say was really true eye contact, since it's not like that "God" had eyes or anything lol) This is just my opinion though, I respect yours :) SageModeTice said: Ok so what is even "perfect Jinchuriki"?ClickBaitBuster said: Naruto cannot be put into genjustu because he is a perfect jinchuriki, how have you watched the whole franchise and still think Itachi stands a chance against Naruto. Naruto and Saitama would be a good one.Casual_Elite said: Well first, Naruto can't break out of the genjutsu himself, he needs the Kyuubi to inject his chakra into him to break him out of it, and by the time that happens Naruto would've at least spent 72 hours in the Genjutsu world which would make him unable to fight anymore. Second, Naruto can fight Itachi 1 on 1 without looking at his eyes or fingers and thus avoiding to fall into his Genjutsu. at the end it all comes down to who can do what and how fast he can do it. Even if Light can somehow write down all of the other characters names without getting killed first by any of them, the death note would only kill them after 40 seconds has passed. And even if Lelouch got somehow everybody to look at his left eye at the same time (which is extremely unlikely), he still needs to give them a verbal order which would take far more time than what it would take either Itachi, Naruto or Saitama to kill everyone else, so the fight would be between those 3. Nothing Naruto could do have any chance of damaging Saitama, Itachi in the other hand can give up one of his sharingans to activate Izanagi and become invincible for a short amount of time, then use Shisui's eye to trigger the ultimate genjutsu that don't require eye contact to control Saitama and make him kill Naruto and then himself.ClickBaitBuster said: I guess than the fight would end with Naruto vs Itachi as Naruto could break from Genjutsu and then I guess Naruto would beat Itachi And with Itachi beaten Everybody would return to normalOk so let me get this straight, people are somehow voting Lelouch because of his ability to hypnotize anyone who have eye contact with his left eye and he must use VERBAL commands to make it work, over motherfucking Itachi, who has the same damn ability but light years better, he can use both his eyes to trigger the hypnotists or set his enemy on fire that can't be put down until it burn him completely, WITHOUT HAVING TO SAY A WORD!!! hell he can even use his fingers to trigger the hypnotists. Also unlike Lelouch he has countless physical/magical abilities to use when the enemy wouldn't make eye contact with his eyes or fingers, not to mention that his one of the smartest characters in his respective anime/manga. I mean it's obvious that these people are just voting for their favorite character and don't care to answer this question objectively at all Lmao Just my hypothesis Or maybe this.. As you can see, Bee clearly fell into the genjutsu both times and needed the Hachibi to break him out of it, which took more than a second. Now if Itachi used the tsukuyomi to slow down the time flow inside the genjutsu world like he did with Kakashi then 72 hours would've passed for every second Bee spent under the genjutsu., even if we assume that the Hachibi would wake him 0.5 second after he fell into it, he would still have spent 36 hours there. 36 hours of mental torture would make him unable to fight anymore. It would seem that someone needs to rewatch the whole franchise indeed, and it's not me. Not really into the Naruto scene that much, but stats do matter more than you think. Naruto's speed kept getting crazier and crazier before and during the war arc (haven't seen anything past that). Itachi was dead and didn't get stronger at all. Naruto can legit blitz him going all out, not to mention his clones moves as fast as he does and they can each summon giant Rasengans that have attack potency to level mountains. I'm not even gonna mention the biju bombs and the truth-seeking balls. |
Feb 19, 2021 1:48 AM
#108
Easy, Saitama will win but I will give my vote to Eren because he is my favorite character XD |
Feb 19, 2021 2:16 AM
#109
Doflamingo45 said: How is Naruto gonna "blitz" Itachi when Itachi literally can't be killed while the Izanagi is activated? Naruto could detonate a bijuudama the size of the galaxy and he would still not be able to kill him because he simply cannot be killed. Naruto doesn't have counter measures to Itachi's genjutsu, Izanagi and totsuka sword, as they're particularly broken.ClickBaitBuster said: SageModeTice said: ClickBaitBuster said: Why do I need to give you a scenario when I can just give you stats, Naruto has speeds that Itachi has never even seen before, he could literally blitz him so fastSageModeTice said: You still didn't give me a plausible scenario where Naruto actually beat Itachi. I mean I'm not going to compare the worst version of Itachi to the best version of Naruto, how about Itachi with Shisui's mangekyo that doesn't even need eye contact to activate the genjutsu, how about Edo Tensei Itachi who doesn't even need to use Izanagi to be invincible, how about Itachi with totsuka sword that can seal anything it pierces and yata mirror that can repel/negate all? That is the best version of Itachi.ClickBaitBuster said: Naruto is in a different league bro, I know it’s not a great explanation but it does hold merit, and he’s definitely not dumb enough to get caught in genjustu, because he has knowledge of Itachis genjustu, and before you say he got caught in Itachis genjustu two times before. This is a much more smart, and experienced Naruto. Itachi has nothing that could do anything against Naruto if his genjustu won’t work, Naruto is two fast and has tanked an attack that can split the moon. Naruto moves at speed of light feats and reaction speeds. If Naruto got caught in Tsukiyomi, let’s just say if he did, his durability is unrivaled in the series, and he has near limitless chakra, i mean if part 1 kakashi was still standing after he was in it for 3 whole days, a Naruto with genjustu immunity would be at in a day or two tops and be able to go some more. I appreciate you being civil and shit, we could always just agree to disagree, I just think it’s not even a fair fight for Itachi, he is very very powerful, but Naruto is unbelievably broken now and far too experienced.SageModeTice said: Ok so I told you why I think Itachi can beat Naruto, you disagreed with me which is fine, but your disagreement won't hold any water unless you give me a concrete reason as to why you think Itachi can't beat Naruto other than "Naruto too STRONK"ClickBaitBuster said: If you actually think Hokage Naruto would be caught into a genjustu by Itachi you are completely bias, I’ll admit you are right about Tsukiyomi, but as you see I was right about them being immune to any other genjustu as they snap out in mere seconds. Hokage Naruto beats Itachi 10/10 anyone who doesn’t think so is Itachi bias at its peak.SageModeTice said: Immune huh? You mean like this..ClickBaitBuster said: someone who has mastered there tailed beast, Killer Bee and Naruto are immune to genjustu because they have tamed there tailed beast.Dazel1412 said: I mean if you gather those character in one arena to fight, you should tell them to go all out from the start or they might die before they know it, or else it won't be a fair fight. Naruto would nuke the the entire area right out of the gate, killing everyone besides Saitama who's invincible against physical attacks, and Itachi who can activate Izanagi to give up one of his eyes in exchange of being invincible for a short amount of time. after that Itachi can use the genjutsu to control Saitama and make him kill Naruto, and then make Saitama kill himself. but if Saitama is fast enough to kill Itachi before Itachi activate the Izanagi then he can win.ClickBaitBuster said: Ok so let me get this straight, people are somehow voting Lelouch because of his ability to hypnotize anyone who have eye contact with his left eye and he must use VERBAL commands to make it work, over motherfucking Itachi, who has the same damn ability but light years better, he can use both his eyes to trigger the hypnosis or set his enemy on fire that can't be put down until it burn him completely, WITHOUT HAVING TO SAY A WORD!!! hell he can even use his fingers to trigger the hypnosis. Also unlike Lelouch he has countless physical/magical abilities to use when the enemy wouldn't make eye contact with his eyes or fingers, not to mention that his one of the smartest characters in his respective anime/manga. I mean it's obvious that these people are just voting for their favorite character and don't care to answer this question objectively at all Lmao But wouldn't all of the experienced fighters go for each other? Would Itachi be more prone to fight back/defend himself before he uses his powers? I've never watched Naruto so I don't really know anything about their powers (all I know is that Itachi is a rogue ninja-assassin), would he be able to target multiple people at once? I'd assume all the strong/experienced fighters in this list would charge straight at each other and turn it into a giant brawl. Lelouch doesn't have any way of fighting besides his gun, Geass, and intelligence (and possibly a Knightmare if he has one present). The second people turn to him, all he needs to do is skip the theatrics and say "I command you all to die". I'd definitely say it's possible Itachi could overpower him if it was just him and Lelouch left, but if Itachi somehow got taken out earlier by another fighter, I'd say it's Lelouch's game. Besides... In Season 2, Lelouch got the Geass in both eyes, and it had gotten so powerful to the point that it's technically permanently on. (It was powerful enough that he Geassed "God"--and though that "God" was present, how much can we say was really true eye contact, since it's not like that "God" had eyes or anything lol) This is just my opinion though, I respect yours :) SageModeTice said: Ok so what is even "perfect Jinchuriki"?ClickBaitBuster said: Naruto cannot be put into genjustu because he is a perfect jinchuriki, how have you watched the whole franchise and still think Itachi stands a chance against Naruto. Naruto and Saitama would be a good one.Casual_Elite said: Well first, Naruto can't break out of the genjutsu himself, he needs the Kyuubi to inject his chakra into him to break him out of it, and by the time that happens Naruto would've at least spent 72 hours in the Genjutsu world which would make him unable to fight anymore. Second, Naruto can fight Itachi 1 on 1 without looking at his eyes or fingers and thus avoiding to fall into his Genjutsu. at the end it all comes down to who can do what and how fast he can do it. Even if Light can somehow write down all of the other characters names without getting killed first by any of them, the death note would only kill them after 40 seconds has passed. And even if Lelouch got somehow everybody to look at his left eye at the same time (which is extremely unlikely), he still needs to give them a verbal order which would take far more time than what it would take either Itachi, Naruto or Saitama to kill everyone else, so the fight would be between those 3. Nothing Naruto could do have any chance of damaging Saitama, Itachi in the other hand can give up one of his sharingans to activate Izanagi and become invincible for a short amount of time, then use Shisui's eye to trigger the ultimate genjutsu that don't require eye contact to control Saitama and make him kill Naruto and then himself.ClickBaitBuster said: I guess than the fight would end with Naruto vs Itachi as Naruto could break from Genjutsu and then I guess Naruto would beat Itachi And with Itachi beaten Everybody would return to normalOk so let me get this straight, people are somehow voting Lelouch because of his ability to hypnotize anyone who have eye contact with his left eye and he must use VERBAL commands to make it work, over motherfucking Itachi, who has the same damn ability but light years better, he can use both his eyes to trigger the hypnotists or set his enemy on fire that can't be put down until it burn him completely, WITHOUT HAVING TO SAY A WORD!!! hell he can even use his fingers to trigger the hypnotists. Also unlike Lelouch he has countless physical/magical abilities to use when the enemy wouldn't make eye contact with his eyes or fingers, not to mention that his one of the smartest characters in his respective anime/manga. I mean it's obvious that these people are just voting for their favorite character and don't care to answer this question objectively at all Lmao Just my hypothesis Or maybe this.. As you can see, Bee clearly fell into the genjutsu both times and needed the Hachibi to break him out of it, which took more than a second. Now if Itachi used the tsukuyomi to slow down the time flow inside the genjutsu world like he did with Kakashi then 72 hours would've passed for every second Bee spent under the genjutsu., even if we assume that the Hachibi would wake him 0.5 second after he fell into it, he would still have spent 36 hours there. 36 hours of mental torture would make him unable to fight anymore. It would seem that someone needs to rewatch the whole franchise indeed, and it's not me. Not really into the Naruto scene that much, but stats do matter more than you think. Naruto's speed kept getting crazier and crazier before and during the war arc (haven't seen anything past that). Itachi was dead and didn't get stronger at all. Naruto can legit blitz him going all out, not to mention his clones moves as fast as he does and they can each summon giant Rasengans that have attack potency to level mountains. I'm not even gonna mention the biju bombs and the truth-seeking balls. |
ClickBaitBusterFeb 19, 2021 2:20 AM
Feb 19, 2021 3:11 AM
#110
Lelouch would win, because he can order the others to kill themselves and his real name is Lelouch vi Britania so Light wouldn't be able to write his name. |
Feb 19, 2021 4:31 AM
#111
ClickBaitBuster said: Again, Naruto is immune to genjustu, the only one he could be caught in is Tsukiyomi because of how it bends the laws of time, not that he would be in it long enough to keep him down, nor would he get caught in it in the first place. Now how can he activate Izanagi when he gets blitz faster then he can react, Narutos speed is far superior to Itachis reaction speed. This is literally a guy who dodged a photon beam in base, photon beams move at speed of light, and his spsm gives him unbelievable buffs. Naruto is not getting caught by any of his hacks. The tortsuka blade isn’t even a factor because he couldn’t dream of catching Naruto with it. and if Itachi uses Izanagi he loses his sharingan, what is this gonna solve? All that’s gonna happen is Naruto is gonna blitz him again. He simply can’t handle someone with that much power and speed. So again, here is your scenario, Narutos battle iq, experience, and speed bypasses all of Itachis hax, and now Itachi stands no chance without them.Doflamingo45 said: How is Naruto gonna "blitz" Itachi when Itachi literally can't be killed while the Izanagi is activated? Naruto could detonate a bijuudama the size of the galaxy and he would still not be able to kill him because he simply cannot be killed. Naruto doesn't have counter measures to Itachi's genjutsu, Izanagi and totsuka sword, as they're particularly broken.ClickBaitBuster said: SageModeTice said: Well this is not DBZ where the one with the best stats and highest power level always wins, you can give Light Yagami the transperacy from Obito's mangekyo and watch him kill galaxy level opponents easily. So unless you can give me a scenario where Naruto bypasses all Itachi's hax and kills him then your disagreement with me -as I said- won't hold any water.ClickBaitBuster said: Why do I need to give you a scenario when I can just give you stats, Naruto has speeds that Itachi has never even seen before, he could literally blitz him so fastSageModeTice said: You still didn't give me a plausible scenario where Naruto actually beat Itachi. I mean I'm not going to compare the worst version of Itachi to the best version of Naruto, how about Itachi with Shisui's mangekyo that doesn't even need eye contact to activate the genjutsu, how about Edo Tensei Itachi who doesn't even need to use Izanagi to be invincible, how about Itachi with totsuka sword that can seal anything it pierces and yata mirror that can repel/negate all? That is the best version of Itachi.ClickBaitBuster said: Naruto is in a different league bro, I know it’s not a great explanation but it does hold merit, and he’s definitely not dumb enough to get caught in genjustu, because he has knowledge of Itachis genjustu, and before you say he got caught in Itachis genjustu two times before. This is a much more smart, and experienced Naruto. Itachi has nothing that could do anything against Naruto if his genjustu won’t work, Naruto is two fast and has tanked an attack that can split the moon. Naruto moves at speed of light feats and reaction speeds. If Naruto got caught in Tsukiyomi, let’s just say if he did, his durability is unrivaled in the series, and he has near limitless chakra, i mean if part 1 kakashi was still standing after he was in it for 3 whole days, a Naruto with genjustu immunity would be at in a day or two tops and be able to go some more. I appreciate you being civil and shit, we could always just agree to disagree, I just think it’s not even a fair fight for Itachi, he is very very powerful, but Naruto is unbelievably broken now and far too experienced.SageModeTice said: Ok so I told you why I think Itachi can beat Naruto, you disagreed with me which is fine, but your disagreement won't hold any water unless you give me a concrete reason as to why you think Itachi can't beat Naruto other than "Naruto too STRONK"ClickBaitBuster said: If you actually think Hokage Naruto would be caught into a genjustu by Itachi you are completely bias, I’ll admit you are right about Tsukiyomi, but as you see I was right about them being immune to any other genjustu as they snap out in mere seconds. Hokage Naruto beats Itachi 10/10 anyone who doesn’t think so is Itachi bias at its peak.SageModeTice said: Immune huh? You mean like this..ClickBaitBuster said: someone who has mastered there tailed beast, Killer Bee and Naruto are immune to genjustu because they have tamed there tailed beast.Dazel1412 said: I mean if you gather those character in one arena to fight, you should tell them to go all out from the start or they might die before they know it, or else it won't be a fair fight. Naruto would nuke the the entire area right out of the gate, killing everyone besides Saitama who's invincible against physical attacks, and Itachi who can activate Izanagi to give up one of his eyes in exchange of being invincible for a short amount of time. after that Itachi can use the genjutsu to control Saitama and make him kill Naruto, and then make Saitama kill himself. but if Saitama is fast enough to kill Itachi before Itachi activate the Izanagi then he can win.ClickBaitBuster said: Ok so let me get this straight, people are somehow voting Lelouch because of his ability to hypnotize anyone who have eye contact with his left eye and he must use VERBAL commands to make it work, over motherfucking Itachi, who has the same damn ability but light years better, he can use both his eyes to trigger the hypnosis or set his enemy on fire that can't be put down until it burn him completely, WITHOUT HAVING TO SAY A WORD!!! hell he can even use his fingers to trigger the hypnosis. Also unlike Lelouch he has countless physical/magical abilities to use when the enemy wouldn't make eye contact with his eyes or fingers, not to mention that his one of the smartest characters in his respective anime/manga. I mean it's obvious that these people are just voting for their favorite character and don't care to answer this question objectively at all Lmao But wouldn't all of the experienced fighters go for each other? Would Itachi be more prone to fight back/defend himself before he uses his powers? I've never watched Naruto so I don't really know anything about their powers (all I know is that Itachi is a rogue ninja-assassin), would he be able to target multiple people at once? I'd assume all the strong/experienced fighters in this list would charge straight at each other and turn it into a giant brawl. Lelouch doesn't have any way of fighting besides his gun, Geass, and intelligence (and possibly a Knightmare if he has one present). The second people turn to him, all he needs to do is skip the theatrics and say "I command you all to die". I'd definitely say it's possible Itachi could overpower him if it was just him and Lelouch left, but if Itachi somehow got taken out earlier by another fighter, I'd say it's Lelouch's game. Besides... In Season 2, Lelouch got the Geass in both eyes, and it had gotten so powerful to the point that it's technically permanently on. (It was powerful enough that he Geassed "God"--and though that "God" was present, how much can we say was really true eye contact, since it's not like that "God" had eyes or anything lol) This is just my opinion though, I respect yours :) SageModeTice said: Ok so what is even "perfect Jinchuriki"?ClickBaitBuster said: Naruto cannot be put into genjustu because he is a perfect jinchuriki, how have you watched the whole franchise and still think Itachi stands a chance against Naruto. Naruto and Saitama would be a good one.Casual_Elite said: Well first, Naruto can't break out of the genjutsu himself, he needs the Kyuubi to inject his chakra into him to break him out of it, and by the time that happens Naruto would've at least spent 72 hours in the Genjutsu world which would make him unable to fight anymore. Second, Naruto can fight Itachi 1 on 1 without looking at his eyes or fingers and thus avoiding to fall into his Genjutsu. at the end it all comes down to who can do what and how fast he can do it. Even if Light can somehow write down all of the other characters names without getting killed first by any of them, the death note would only kill them after 40 seconds has passed. And even if Lelouch got somehow everybody to look at his left eye at the same time (which is extremely unlikely), he still needs to give them a verbal order which would take far more time than what it would take either Itachi, Naruto or Saitama to kill everyone else, so the fight would be between those 3. Nothing Naruto could do have any chance of damaging Saitama, Itachi in the other hand can give up one of his sharingans to activate Izanagi and become invincible for a short amount of time, then use Shisui's eye to trigger the ultimate genjutsu that don't require eye contact to control Saitama and make him kill Naruto and then himself.ClickBaitBuster said: I guess than the fight would end with Naruto vs Itachi as Naruto could break from Genjutsu and then I guess Naruto would beat Itachi And with Itachi beaten Everybody would return to normalOk so let me get this straight, people are somehow voting Lelouch because of his ability to hypnotize anyone who have eye contact with his left eye and he must use VERBAL commands to make it work, over motherfucking Itachi, who has the same damn ability but light years better, he can use both his eyes to trigger the hypnotists or set his enemy on fire that can't be put down until it burn him completely, WITHOUT HAVING TO SAY A WORD!!! hell he can even use his fingers to trigger the hypnotists. Also unlike Lelouch he has countless physical/magical abilities to use when the enemy wouldn't make eye contact with his eyes or fingers, not to mention that his one of the smartest characters in his respective anime/manga. I mean it's obvious that these people are just voting for their favorite character and don't care to answer this question objectively at all Lmao Just my hypothesis Or maybe this.. As you can see, Bee clearly fell into the genjutsu both times and needed the Hachibi to break him out of it, which took more than a second. Now if Itachi used the tsukuyomi to slow down the time flow inside the genjutsu world like he did with Kakashi then 72 hours would've passed for every second Bee spent under the genjutsu., even if we assume that the Hachibi would wake him 0.5 second after he fell into it, he would still have spent 36 hours there. 36 hours of mental torture would make him unable to fight anymore. It would seem that someone needs to rewatch the whole franchise indeed, and it's not me. Not really into the Naruto scene that much, but stats do matter more than you think. Naruto's speed kept getting crazier and crazier before and during the war arc (haven't seen anything past that). Itachi was dead and didn't get stronger at all. Naruto can legit blitz him going all out, not to mention his clones moves as fast as he does and they can each summon giant Rasengans that have attack potency to level mountains. I'm not even gonna mention the biju bombs and the truth-seeking balls. |
Feb 19, 2021 6:49 AM
#112
SageModeTice said: Again, Naruto is immune to genjustu, the only one he could be caught in is Tsukiyomi because of how it bends the laws of time, not that he would be in it long enough to keep him down, nor would he get caught in it in the first place. Now how can he activate Izanagi when he gets blitz faster then he can react, Narutos speed is far superior to Itachis reaction speed. This is literally a guy who dodged a photon beam in base, photon beams move at speed of light, and his spsm gives him unbelievable buffs. Naruto is not getting caught by any of his hacks. The tortsuka blade isn’t even a factor because he couldn’t dream of catching Naruto with it. and if Itachi uses Izanagi he loses his sharingan, what is this gonna solve? All that’s gonna happen is Naruto is gonna blitz him again. He simply can’t handle someone with that much power and speed. So again, here is your scenario, Narutos battle iq, experience, and speed bypasses all of Itachis hax, and now Itachi stands no chance without them. First, Itachi doesn't need to react to Naruto, he can just activate the Izanagi right from the start, which would be faster than the time Naruto would need to locate Itachi's position, make the decision to go after him, and close the distance between them. In the other hand Itachi would just activate the Izanagi first and think later. Second, Madara was able to use the Susano with literally no eyes.. So yeah even if Itachi lost one of his eyes he can still use it. Third, "Immune to genjutsu" would suggest that he can't be trapped into a genjutsu, which is not the case, he can and will be trapped into genjutsus that are powerful enough, and then it would all depend on the Kyuubi to find out about it and release him from it, which would take at least a few seconds. Also the Kyuubi can't release Naruto from any and every genjutsu no matter the type or the power: They're talking about the Infinite Tsukuyomi btw, which is the most powerful genjutsu ever, now Itachi just happens to be possessing the second most powerful genjutsu ever, which is the Kotoamatsukami from Shisui's mangekyo, this genjutsu requires no eyes contact whatsoever, even more, it can permanently alter the target's memory, so even if Naruto could somehow breakout of it, the damage would've already been done, but that doesn't matter because all Itachi needs to do is control Naruto for a short amount of time to make him look at his eyes and then use the Tsukuyomi on him. Now I mentioned before that Itachi made Kakashi go through 72 hours of torturing in a matter of 1 second, but he can actually do far FAR more than that. If Naruto isn't already dead after a lifetime of torturing, he'd damn sure be near dead, and that's when the "non-factor" totsuka sword becomes a factor, and I'd reckon he could very much dream of catching an unconscious Naruto laying on the ground half dead with it, with his eyes closed even. |
Feb 19, 2021 6:53 AM
#113
Probably Saitama or Light at the end it'll probably end up with them fighting with speed Light will try to write Saitama's name as fast as he can I guess? wait what is Saitama's sur name? |
Feb 19, 2021 7:36 AM
#114
is this even need to compare? I mean Saitama is not just a hero with only super strength...even Yagami light and Lelouch cannot win against Saitama. |
Feb 19, 2021 7:41 AM
#115
kirito dies first cause its not a videogame how do u win Saitama? |
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Feb 19, 2021 7:45 AM
#116
I think that even if we assume that these characters are all familiar with one another, Light can't write all their names fast enough - leaving enough space for Saitama to wipe them all out. |
Feb 19, 2021 8:02 AM
#117
Feb 19, 2021 9:23 AM
#118
This entire showdown comes down to whether or not Saitama is effected by geass. I guess all he would need to do is wear sunglasses and Saitama would run away with it. |
Feb 19, 2021 11:16 AM
#119
Gintoki, I mean, look at his kamehameha! |
Feb 19, 2021 11:23 AM
#120
The Greatest Protagonist Of all time The Legendary MC Kirito. In Terms Of power He's Second only To Hachiman. (but Hachiman Is Lazy so He won't win) Naruto, Itachi, Luffy, Saitama, killua All these characters are Nothing. Even Light Can't kill him with his Death Note. |
Feb 19, 2021 2:32 PM
#121
damn if only Saitama wasn't on this list, then it'd be a better debate. He's just way too op. |
Jul 24, 2021 2:17 AM
#122
Lelouch because he can order anyone to kill themself and light comes in front then also he don't know to whole name of lelouch so he can't right it in death note |
Jul 25, 2021 5:30 PM
#123
The serious answer, Lelouch. Nobody has awareness of everybody else's abilities and all he has to do is command them all to serve him. Pretty much wraps everything up in one neat bow. But to make things more interesting I'd like to theorize about one very slim reality that Okabe/Kurisu actually manage to make it out of this. Since I don't feel like writing out a whole story here I'll just bullet point XD -Lelouch uses his command to force the people looking at him to obey his will (he'd probably like to see how useful his new pawns are instead of immediately killing them) -Okabe/Makise use their time-machine and Okabe gets sent into the timeline's past (since timelines converged to make this all-out battle possible he might be able to interfere in those timelines) -If the timeline's messed up enough by the convergence of all these characters of different realms, he can proceed to manipulate events in the past to either make friends with them in their pasts or erase the possibility of them becoming a threat -For example, if he goes into Saitama's past to the point where he confronted the crab-guy he could try to steer Saitama away from the hero route -Okabe goes into endless loops back into the past to avoid Lelouch's geass in the present time of the all-out battle -Okabe/Kurisu eventually reach a reality where other characters leave them alone/aren't as OP as they originally were/are erased due to dramatic changes in the overall timeline |
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