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Feb 14, 2021 3:03 PM
#301
| I rewatched this episode, and where the hell is the art and animation looking janky? The sunset blushing scene which Hayashi probably storyboarded looked really really good. Actually, any scene that involved Eren, Mikasa or Levi looked fabulous. Also, the backgrounds looked phenomenal, almost always ultra-realistic. The directing was also very good and the episode managed to capture the different moods and atmospheres of different scenes very proficiently. The right OSTs also played at the right times. Disregarding a few off-model shots of characters, I don't see the need for this much complaining. |
Feb 14, 2021 3:04 PM
#302
Payae said: Did you just spoil that the explanation they gave this episode not correct? This seemed pretty upfront who the father was, just some nameless bozo from her childhood.Ch3RR1PiChan said: Hey everyone, just watched ep10 and there was a lot of information in this episode once again. Just was a little confused; did Eren get Historia pregnant? I’m confused? Who’s the father? Or will they reveal this in the upcoming episodes? Bruh we Manga readers want to now too |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
Feb 14, 2021 3:06 PM
#303
| Well, the animation was as expected from MAPPA, but enough has been said about it, no need to expand on it. (I'm going to go and apply some Myadzaki to my sore eyes right now). I think the only character who is really well drawn (most of the time) is Armin, he definitely looks good this season. The adapted material is some of my favourite parts of manga, especially the scene in the cart. The last reminder of the Survey Corps camaraderie. I also love the scene of Hange and Eren, when she asks: is you say tatakae, tatakae, does this mean there are two fights? She's trying to treat this situation in a light-hearted way, because she has no clue really what to do, but Eren sees through her feigned lightheartednes right away. I don't like him now, but at least he goes to the essence of the matter in this questions and his actions. Thanks to the person who uploaded the images from manga foreshadowing Mikasa's tattoo. I did not read the early chapters of manga and when Mikasa revealed this tattoo, I really thought that it was an asspull, but in reality not. Kudoz to Isayama, this man has foreseen a lot. I missed the shot of Azumabito drooling that was removed from this episode. It was really uncomfortable to see in manga during the presumably serious diplomatic talks but funny as hell. A minor loss I think, but enjoy: https://zjcdn.mangafox.me/store/manga/9011/TBD-107.0/compressed/p019.jpg When I saw Levi and Zeke at the end of the episode, I literally said "oh shit", my heart was not ready. The next episode is going to be interesting. With Gabi, of course, but we'll be delving right into the core of the manga's moral message (as I understand it) from now on. ---- By the way, getting back to the scene where Yelena and her team meet Eren and team Paradis, why do you think Levi has prevented Yelena from working with Eren? I mean, even as a manga reader, I don't exactly understand why he needed to be so harsh so early on. I understand that, Levi being Levi, he's naturally suspicious about Yelena, but did he also distrust Eren at this point already? If you have some ideas that rely on further material from manga, please hide them under spoilers out of respect for anime onlies. |
Feb 14, 2021 3:07 PM
#304
| Do you think Hange's response about Eren's ecchines was genuine? She must have understood that it wasn't some teen angst and was trying to not escalate the situation and play it down? They didn't come back to it and her opinion on Eren so it's not really clear. Looking at the preview, Falco and that little shit escaping seems reaaaaaly convenient for plot. I hope it won't be that easy. |
Feb 14, 2021 3:11 PM
#305
| welp, hisu's pregnant on valentine's day! god am i happy to see manbun eren, kaji nailed the anger and frustration eren has for zeke's plan this episode was a good mix of wholesome and serious. mappa do be dropping some hints tho the focus on the wine glass and niccolo's brand? hmmm..... next episode: zevi shenanigans! |
Feb 14, 2021 3:12 PM
#306
BetaMaleUltra said: Ah yes I remember now this is the point in the manga where I went: "what??" They wanna do what? He wants to eat what? They wanna make her into a titan what? Royal blood what? Zeke's plan what? Avoid the rumbling what? Making a deal for resources what? Mikasa is royalty what? Founding titan what?? Please excuse me while I try to find a youtube video explaining all this; unless someone would be so kind as to explain just what everyone is trying to do right now, that would be super great as well Paradis wants to establish diplomatic relations with some countries outside. Zeke's followers and Yelena tell Paradis about the outside world and how technologically behind Paradis is. They arrange a meeting with Azumabito's (Kiyomi) from Hizuru, an eastern nation outside Paradis. Kiyomi visits paradis and holds talks, they find out Mikasa is descended from the Shogun of Hizuru who was friendly with the Eldian royals and was stuck in Paradis during the great titan war. Kiyomi is aiming for money and profit by exploiting the natural resources on Paradis after being informed by Zeke. She says that for Paradis and the Walldians to survive they need to fulfill some things. First, carry out a small rumbling as a test to show the other nations outside that they are capable of rumbling to use as a deterrent from being attacked. Basically if you attack us, we will set the rumbling on your nation. Second, Hizuru will gradually help in improving the Paradis military over time to reach parity with outside so that the rumbling wont be required anymore. Finally, in order to account for the time for the military improvement the threat of rumbling should be maintained. This necessitates that Paradis have two shifters, one having the founding titan which is with Eren currently, and one being a titan with royal blood (royal can't have founding titan because they will be influenced by Karl Fritz's vow of peace) who will pass on Zeke's beast titan during this time period (approx 50yrs). This means that Paradis will need to have succession rituals every 13 years. The royal blood part means that Historia is turned into a titan and eats Zeke becoming the new beast and then becomes a baby factory to produce as many children as possible in 13 years so that the royal blood can carry on. Eren is opposed to using Historia like this. Paradis try to establish relations with some other countries and ask Hizuru if they would be willing to introduce them to others but Hizuru says, fuck you we wont do that, we want all the money here alone. This makes the only possible choice in front of the scouts to titanise Historia. Eren is still opposed to this and rebels but suddenly decides to go ahead with Zeke's plan. The rest is the attack on liberio (marley) as we have seen from ep 5 to ep 8 Due to these actions and Eren keeping plans to himself and not confiding in the scouts, they have lost trust in him and are now considering to feed him to someone else in order to have a founding titan with the same ideals as them. Feel free to ask if you have any more questions |
bipacFeb 14, 2021 3:16 PM
Feb 14, 2021 3:15 PM
#307
| When I read this in the manga I always thought it should have been Zeke fucking around and impregnating female Paradisians. Surely there would be volunteers. It would also be more efficient as we would get more royal blooded babies faster. |
Feb 14, 2021 3:15 PM
#308
| they really make the MP looks like the bad people in this ep, the MP's conversation is much better in the manga which show us that they are powerless and just trying to survive by controlling zeke using the captive volunteer |
Feb 14, 2021 3:15 PM
#309
| This episode is also good... I seen Eren blushing.... ๐๐๐๐๐ฑ |
Feb 14, 2021 3:15 PM
#310
| it's crazy how complex this shit got, to think that at the beginning it was just "let's kill all the titans" |
Feb 14, 2021 3:19 PM
#311
JizzyHitler said: Payae said: Did you just spoil that the explanation they gave this episode not correct? This seemed pretty upfront who the father was, just some nameless bozo from her childhood.Ch3RR1PiChan said: Hey everyone, just watched ep10 and there was a lot of information in this episode once again. Just was a little confused; did Eren get Historia pregnant? I’m confused? Who’s the father? Or will they reveal this in the upcoming episodes? Bruh we Manga readers want to now too come on, we all know Tasel said: Eren plowed Historia and had constant mental breakdowns while clapping her royal cheeks. He pushed through that deep rooted agony for the sake of cumming. Not just cum, but family. He literally was watching that fat queen booty bounce on his Attack Titan sized dong, while simultaneously experiencing unyielding flashbacks of his father killing children and crying like a bitch and all that goofy shit. That is straight up fucked. this is what actually happened |
'On-Hold' is another way for a completionist to say 'Dropped' |
Feb 14, 2021 3:19 PM
#312
Fax001s said: Nice episode, aside from some weird shots everything else was perfect, from ost to directing. Still, am i the only one who noticed that every time Gabi is on screen the art improves drastically? Even in the preview you could see that, i wonder why.... Yeah I noticed this too, they seem to put a lot of effort in drawing her character. Not the worst of choices story-wise, though I would be happier if other characters got at least similar treatment production-wise. |
Feb 14, 2021 3:24 PM
#313
| Yuki Kaji voice acting is just 1000/10 lol, i frightened as heck when Eren is about to transform lol he seriously wants to kill Hange!? On the side note, i believe those cuts were kinda sus. Eren suddenly change his mind to work with Zeke, Floch close-up on next ep preview, Niccolo offering "wine". Can't wait for next episode. |
Feb 14, 2021 3:26 PM
#314
Ao_Blue said: Queen Mikasa! Queen Historia is pregnant and the father is the farmer! EreMika blushing! That's probably the last time we'll see that the new Levi Squad from 104th is complete. T_T For some weird reason, I don't think that the farmer is the father. |
Feb 14, 2021 3:27 PM
#315
Feb 14, 2021 3:31 PM
#316
| that scene with connie really hit in the manga so I'm glad they did it justice in this episode, also nice to see historia as always |
Feb 14, 2021 3:31 PM
#317
Feb 14, 2021 3:33 PM
#318
I_Am_Freeballing said: When I read this in the manga I always thought it should have been Zeke fucking around and impregnating female Paradisians. Surely there would be volunteers. It would also be more efficient as we would get more royal blooded babies faster. So Zeke is gay confirmed? |
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Feb 14, 2021 3:39 PM
#320
| Most shocking aspect for me is that armin is seriously contemplating to kill Eren. |
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Feb 14, 2021 3:40 PM
#321
Okeanix said: Wouldn't surprise me if that was actually the case.I_Am_Freeballing said: When I read this in the manga I always thought it should have been Zeke fucking around and impregnating female Paradisians. Surely there would be volunteers. It would also be more efficient as we would get more royal blooded babies faster. So Zeke is gay confirmed? |
Feb 14, 2021 3:48 PM
#322
MoonDragon72 said: Fuck... Around the time that Season 3 stared airing I saw an article with a headline that said "Attack On Titan reveals unexpected pregnancy". I was hoping that it wasn't Historia, but it was... On the brightside, it's obvious that she doesn't want this and is only going through with it because she didn't have a choice, although I have a bad feeling that this will turn into some homophobic bullshit like "falling in love with Ymir was just a phase and she just never had good dick yet so she fell in love with whoever banged her (it's obviously Eren)" or something like that. I also find it kinda funny how they revealed this in episode 69. I'm interested why do you think it's Eren? VP2003boi said: Well uh, isayama sure loves flashbacks! But seriously, what is with this obsession? Its just weird that literally everything in this show needs to be explained through them, it starts to feel kinda cheap after a while. Either way, this episode was uhmm fine i guess, when eren was talking to hange he mostly just came of as a little edgy, mostly because his "transformation" into an edgy dude is really sudden and we still dont know exacly why he became this way (although im sure we will get ANOTHER flashback for it later on). The talk between the main guys on the "train" was kinda cute tho, nothing special and honestly somewhat unnecessary, but it was a fine moment to relax i guess. And uh, did eren laugh when sasha died? I dont remember that being the case, because if he did, he sure has a great sense of humor as I also laughed on that part ahaha. The animation was extremely lacking, pretty much stills everywhere, but for an episode, with like ~12 animation directors, the art was still pretty good like usual, so no real complain on the visual department, at least for a more slice of life episode like this one. We got a 3 years time skip, are you not interested in what happen in these 3 years? Would it have been better if we didn't get these flashback and then you same one would complain about being lost by the plot? |
Feb 14, 2021 3:48 PM
#323
Clubby said: Pretty boring episode, nothing of note happened. Expecting better going forward. how did nothing happen this ep? Compared to many prev action eps, this one has the most content and story, with political intrigues, character moments, dilemmas, mystery, etc. |
โญโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโฎ "All problems come from the human mind. In the mind, one's consciousness is just the tip of the iceberg. What lies beneath the surface... the subconscious... is far more vast." - Shun Aonuma โฐโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโฏ |
Feb 14, 2021 3:50 PM
#324
Lovlis said: Clubby said: Pretty boring episode, nothing of note happened. Expecting better going forward. how did nothing happen this ep? Compared to many prev action eps, this one has the most content and story, with political intrigues, character moments, dilemmas, mystery, etc. It just felt like back and forth dialogues, flashbacks that were too confusing because you never knew where you were in the timeline, and nothing of note happened compared to the previous episodes. |
Feb 14, 2021 3:57 PM
#325
bipac said: BetaMaleUltra said: Ah yes I remember now this is the point in the manga where I went: "what??" They wanna do what? He wants to eat what? They wanna make her into a titan what? Royal blood what? Zeke's plan what? Avoid the rumbling what? Making a deal for resources what? Mikasa is royalty what? Founding titan what?? Please excuse me while I try to find a youtube video explaining all this; unless someone would be so kind as to explain just what everyone is trying to do right now, that would be super great as well Paradis wants to establish diplomatic relations with some countries outside. Zeke's followers and Yelena tell Paradis about the outside world and how technologically behind Paradis is. They arrange a meeting with Azumabito's (Kiyomi) from Hizuru, an eastern nation outside Paradis. Kiyomi visits paradis and holds talks, they find out Mikasa is descended from the Shogun of Hizuru who was friendly with the Eldian royals and was stuck in Paradis during the great titan war. Kiyomi is aiming for money and profit by exploiting the natural resources on Paradis after being informed by Zeke. She says that for Paradis and the Walldians to survive they need to fulfill some things. First, carry out a small rumbling as a test to show the other nations outside that they are capable of rumbling to use as a deterrent from being attacked. Basically if you attack us, we will set the rumbling on your nation. Second, Hizuru will gradually help in improving the Paradis military over time to reach parity with outside so that the rumbling wont be required anymore. Finally, in order to account for the time for the military improvement the threat of rumbling should be maintained. This necessitates that Paradis have two shifters, one having the founding titan which is with Eren currently, and one being a titan with royal blood (royal can't have founding titan because they will be influenced by Karl Fritz's vow of peace) who will pass on Zeke's beast titan during this time period (approx 50yrs). This means that Paradis will need to have succession rituals every 13 years. The royal blood part means that Historia is turned into a titan and eats Zeke becoming the new beast and then becomes a baby factory to produce as many children as possible in 13 years so that the royal blood can carry on. Eren is opposed to using Historia like this. Paradis try to establish relations with some other countries and ask Hizuru if they would be willing to introduce them to others but Hizuru says, fuck you we wont do that, we want all the money here alone. This makes the only possible choice in front of the scouts to titanise Historia. Eren is still opposed to this and rebels but suddenly decides to go ahead with Zeke's plan. The rest is the attack on liberio (marley) as we have seen from ep 5 to ep 8 Due to these actions and Eren keeping plans to himself and not confiding in the scouts, they have lost trust in him and are now considering to feed him to someone else in order to have a founding titan with the same ideals as them. Feel free to ask if you have any more questions What a champ, this clears up so much for me. I do have a few more questions though... So the founding titan can't have royal blood for the vow of peace reason, which means Historia can't just simply eat Eren and get the founding titan. How is the rumbling supposed to be initiated then, does the founding titan just have to touch someone with royal blood (like we saw in season 2) and then he gets control of all the titans? And I'm assuming that historia doesn't have to eat the beast titan SPECIFICALLY, zeke just happens to be what they have in stock and his time is up soon so might as well right? So this episode explains eren's intentions on attacking liberio; revenge sure, but mainly so that Historia wouldn't have to become a titan which would maintain their rumbling threat. He basically went over there just to weaken their military for a while, while Paradis gets up to speed with their technology? This is the one that really confuses me; does Historia HAVE TO become a titan in order for the rumbling to work? Can't eren just touchy touchy her as a human and then initiate the rumbling? Because then she doesn't have to make her family eat eachother every 13 years. Probably should be obvious but here goes anyway: Does Historia really have to have as many children as possible; like can she just have one and have that one eat her later? Or is it jus for insurance, like in case some die or can't have children? I may have missed it, but what is Historia's own position on the situation, does she intend to inherit the beast titan? Because she's obviously pregnant so, she probably wants to go ahead and eat zeke. Also, levi is currrently babysitting zeke until historia decides to eat him if I'm not mistaken, but this is in the present- when they had that meeting wasn't zeke in Liberio, so they didn't have him available to be eaten! Did they have titan serum at that time, so couldn't they have just injected Historia with that instead? I guess this goes back to the first question of does it have to be the beast titan specifically that Historia has to eat. Did the scouts also attack Liberio not only to retreive eren, but zeke as well for Historia to eat? I know zeke's plan has many layers and probably goes into spoiler territory, but if it's okay to ask, ultimately he WANTS to be eaten by Historia right? He WANTS the rumbling to happen, for whatever reason?? I'm fine with spoilers btw, I guess just hide it for the other people if you gotta go into spoilers If I'm confusing you that's fine, I'm confusing myself just thinking how to ask these questions. If it's too much (kind of is) then dw about it, you cleared up a lot of stuff already. Just continuing to ask because it seems you know your AOT, so I'd thought I'd take this opportunity |
Feb 14, 2021 3:57 PM
#326
| Eren blushing is so cute ๐ฅฐ |
| My candies: Bonus candies: |
Feb 14, 2021 4:05 PM
#328
| I HAVE BEEN ENDURING THIS SEASON SO FAR, BUT NOW THEY'VE DONE IT. MY LITTLE HISTORIA WAS BANGED BY A FUCKING FARMER WHO USED TU BULLY HER NO, MY LIFE ISN'T WORTH ANYMORE, I JUST WANT TO BE HIT BY A MOTORCYCLE. |
| If you're a fanboy, please don't waste my time. Watch more movies, please. Perhaps, this is hell. |
Feb 14, 2021 4:08 PM
#329
| Holy crap I didn't expect Historia to be pregnant. Is the father really a random farmer? Really? Not anyone from the nakama? For now I still don't get Eren's goal and his reason for turning his back to his comrades. I hope we'll learn it soon. I'm still waiting for the day I'll call him "cHaD" like almost every manga reader but that day hasn't come yet... |
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Feb 14, 2021 4:12 PM
#330
SoranoCloud said: Fax001s said: Nice episode, aside from some weird shots everything else was perfect, from ost to directing. Still, am i the only one who noticed that every time Gabi is on screen the art improves drastically? Even in the preview you could see that, i wonder why.... Yeah I noticed this too, they seem to put a lot of effort in drawing her character. Not the worst of choices story-wise, though I would be happier if other characters got at least similar treatment production-wise. I tought that maybe it's because she is easier to draw but i think it's probably to make her look like an actual main character. |
Feb 14, 2021 4:18 PM
#331
Shoryuuken said: Most shocking aspect for me is that armin is seriously contemplating to kill Eren. Yes, I was looking for this! I am pretty shocked myself, I would have never expected that coming from Armin. I would have accepted it coming from anyone else, but hearing it from Armin hurt. It shows how much of a tight situation they are in. But I hope they get the chance to talk all three, Mikasa, Armin and Eren and try to get as much information out as possible. I wish they could support him too. It will take me time to absorb everything that was delivered in this episode. But as you said, it took me off guard when Armin said that! |
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Feb 14, 2021 4:18 PM
#332
| Historia x this random ex-bully got me a touch salty. *thinks about the most tragic love story aka Historia x Ymir* Hange was having too much fun teasing/bothering Eren, then he retaliated. Oof. She was scared. It's cool that Mikasa got to learn more about her mother's ancestry, too bad the Japanese only care about resources/trade. The blushing sunset scene was cute. Back when Eren still had a heart, now he's so harden that the 'most important' people of his life are questioning him. |
Feb 14, 2021 4:20 PM
#333
| Eren no ecchi, baka, hentai LOLOLOL my face when only 6 episodes left, i hate how they named it "final season" so there's not much hope for more lol VP2003boi said: And uh, did eren laugh when sasha died? I dont remember that being the case, because if he did, he sure has a great sense of humor as I also laughed on that part ahaha. he didn't laugh at her death, he did a small smile/laugh for her "i want meat" as her last words because he remembered her stealing meat (we even saw the flashbacks), but then he started crying right after that ... how is her death even a "great sense of humor"? dafuq ... |
winddevil1Feb 14, 2021 4:34 PM
Feb 14, 2021 4:24 PM
#334
VP2003boi said: Well uh, isayama sure loves flashbacks! But seriously, what is with this obsession? Its just weird that literally everything in this show needs to be explained through them, it starts to feel kinda cheap after a while. Either way, this episode was uhmm fine i guess, when eren was talking to hange he mostly just came of as a little edgy, mostly because his "transformation" into an edgy dude is really sudden and we still dont know exacly why he became this way (although im sure we will get ANOTHER flashback for it later on). The talk between the main guys on the "train" was kinda cute tho, nothing special and honestly somewhat unnecessary, but it was a fine moment to relax i guess. And uh, did eren laugh when sasha died? I dont remember that being the case, because if he did, he sure has a great sense of humor as I also laughed on that part ahaha. The animation was extremely lacking, pretty much stills everywhere, but for an episode, with like ~12 animation directors, the art was still pretty good like usual, so no real complain on the visual department, at least for a more slice of life episode like this one. there isnt that many flashbacks tho? and definitely not an overuse of them. season 4 started with marley's perspective, to humanize the previous "enemies", to make you understand them better. it adds moral ambiguity and weight of the story, and now you get what Paradis has been going through, and it just raises the overall complexity of the story as you (maybe) start to empathize with both sides of the war. Eren's lack of pov and audiences initially not rlly understanding his changes (and how he really hasn't changed at all) is purposeful, he's no longer the hero of the story, and we're not meant to really be on his side and agree with his actions. isn't stopping people tho. You slowly start to understand eren's character (not only with flashbacks). His lack of expressions and pov in current time is a sort of dehumanization with his character. Which fits with a lot of his development and the themes he embodies. The mangaka could've just showed everything, and then switched to Marley, and then switched back to Paradis, but by then, people would more easily side with eren and paradis. Marley's pov would feel like a rather tacky add on. Better to introduce marleyans first, then have you increasingly "like" them as the season continues, as marleyans and eldians seem to feel more and more familiar/similar |
โญโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโฎ "All problems come from the human mind. In the mind, one's consciousness is just the tip of the iceberg. What lies beneath the surface... the subconscious... is far more vast." - Shun Aonuma โฐโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโฏ |
Feb 14, 2021 4:25 PM
#335
nanimeanswhat said: Holy crap I didn't expect Historia to be pregnant. Is the father really a random farmer? Really? Not anyone from the nakama? For now I still don't get Eren's goal and his reason for turning his back to his comrades. I hope we'll learn it soon. I'm still waiting for the day I'll call him "cHaD" like almost every manga reader but that day hasn't come yet... It's just a beginning, everything happened next regarding Eren is a fricking clusterfuck and you would get the reason why manga readers call him like that. Unless youre not into genocidal thing |
Feb 14, 2021 4:26 PM
#336
| Bro why is there so much shitposts did everyone go crazy ? |
Feb 14, 2021 4:30 PM
#337
Dovaiakh said: Bro why is there so much shitposts did everyone go crazy ? For real, a lot of shitposts lately here. I was having more fun when we had the rivalry between AOT and FMAB, the war between those fandoms was interesting for me but it seems the AOT fandom surrendered and are now making stupid dumb shitpost like Naruto vs Eren and shit. |
Feb 14, 2021 4:30 PM
#338
Diamond_Sel said: that scene with connie really hit in the manga so I'm glad they did it justice in this episode, also nice to see historia as always When that chapter came out, so many manga readers were pissed that Conny didn't recognize that Eren was laughing as a way of coping with what happened. I thought it was kind of absurd to be mad at Conny for being upset with Eren's reaction. Only viewers and Mikasa have seen Eren previously laugh to cope when Hannes died. |
qguffeyFeb 14, 2021 4:35 PM
Feb 14, 2021 4:32 PM
#339
keragamming said: MoonDragon72 said: Fuck... Around the time that Season 3 stared airing I saw an article with a headline that said "Attack On Titan reveals unexpected pregnancy". I was hoping that it wasn't Historia, but it was... On the brightside, it's obvious that she doesn't want this and is only going through with it because she didn't have a choice, although I have a bad feeling that this will turn into some homophobic bullshit like "falling in love with Ymir was just a phase and she just never had good dick yet so she fell in love with whoever banged her (it's obviously Eren)" or something like that. I also find it kinda funny how they revealed this in episode 69. I'm interested why do you think it's Eren? VP2003boi said: Well uh, isayama sure loves flashbacks! But seriously, what is with this obsession? Its just weird that literally everything in this show needs to be explained through them, it starts to feel kinda cheap after a while. Either way, this episode was uhmm fine i guess, when eren was talking to hange he mostly just came of as a little edgy, mostly because his "transformation" into an edgy dude is really sudden and we still dont know exacly why he became this way (although im sure we will get ANOTHER flashback for it later on). The talk between the main guys on the "train" was kinda cute tho, nothing special and honestly somewhat unnecessary, but it was a fine moment to relax i guess. And uh, did eren laugh when sasha died? I dont remember that being the case, because if he did, he sure has a great sense of humor as I also laughed on that part ahaha. The animation was extremely lacking, pretty much stills everywhere, but for an episode, with like ~12 animation directors, the art was still pretty good like usual, so no real complain on the visual department, at least for a more slice of life episode like this one. We got a 3 years time skip, are you not interested in what happen in these 3 years? Would it have been better if we didn't get these flashback and then you same one would complain about being lost by the plot? I guess the father could be someone else, but I honestly wouldn't be surprised if it's Eren. Correct me if I'm wrong, she would have to fuck someone who is a titan in order for this to happen right? Or is there something I'm missing? |
Feb 14, 2021 4:32 PM
#340
| Greatest show ever. I can't even describe it. Since 2013. |
Feb 14, 2021 4:35 PM
#341
I_Am_Freeballing said: Okeanix said: Wouldn't surprise me if that was actually the case.I_Am_Freeballing said: When I read this in the manga I always thought it should have been Zeke fucking around and impregnating female Paradisians. Surely there would be volunteers. It would also be more efficient as we would get more royal blooded babies faster. So Zeke is gay confirmed? If zeke impregnated eldians female, it will contradict his true goals |
Feb 14, 2021 4:39 PM
#342
BetaMaleUltra said: bipac said: BetaMaleUltra said: Ah yes I remember now this is the point in the manga where I went: "what??" They wanna do what? He wants to eat what? They wanna make her into a titan what? Royal blood what? Zeke's plan what? Avoid the rumbling what? Making a deal for resources what? Mikasa is royalty what? Founding titan what?? Please excuse me while I try to find a youtube video explaining all this; unless someone would be so kind as to explain just what everyone is trying to do right now, that would be super great as well Paradis wants to establish diplomatic relations with some countries outside. Zeke's followers and Yelena tell Paradis about the outside world and how technologically behind Paradis is. They arrange a meeting with Azumabito's (Kiyomi) from Hizuru, an eastern nation outside Paradis. Kiyomi visits paradis and holds talks, they find out Mikasa is descended from the Shogun of Hizuru who was friendly with the Eldian royals and was stuck in Paradis during the great titan war. Kiyomi is aiming for money and profit by exploiting the natural resources on Paradis after being informed by Zeke. She says that for Paradis and the Walldians to survive they need to fulfill some things. First, carry out a small rumbling as a test to show the other nations outside that they are capable of rumbling to use as a deterrent from being attacked. Basically if you attack us, we will set the rumbling on your nation. Second, Hizuru will gradually help in improving the Paradis military over time to reach parity with outside so that the rumbling wont be required anymore. Finally, in order to account for the time for the military improvement the threat of rumbling should be maintained. This necessitates that Paradis have two shifters, one having the founding titan which is with Eren currently, and one being a titan with royal blood (royal can't have founding titan because they will be influenced by Karl Fritz's vow of peace) who will pass on Zeke's beast titan during this time period (approx 50yrs). This means that Paradis will need to have succession rituals every 13 years. The royal blood part means that Historia is turned into a titan and eats Zeke becoming the new beast and then becomes a baby factory to produce as many children as possible in 13 years so that the royal blood can carry on. Eren is opposed to using Historia like this. Paradis try to establish relations with some other countries and ask Hizuru if they would be willing to introduce them to others but Hizuru says, fuck you we wont do that, we want all the money here alone. This makes the only possible choice in front of the scouts to titanise Historia. Eren is still opposed to this and rebels but suddenly decides to go ahead with Zeke's plan. The rest is the attack on liberio (marley) as we have seen from ep 5 to ep 8 Due to these actions and Eren keeping plans to himself and not confiding in the scouts, they have lost trust in him and are now considering to feed him to someone else in order to have a founding titan with the same ideals as them. Feel free to ask if you have any more questions What a champ, this clears up so much for me. I do have a few more questions though... So the founding titan can't have royal blood for the vow of peace reason, which means Historia can't just simply eat Eren and get the founding titan. How is the rumbling supposed to be initiated then, does the founding titan just have to touch someone with royal blood (like we saw in season 2) and then he gets control of all the titans? And I'm assuming that historia doesn't have to eat the beast titan SPECIFICALLY, zeke just happens to be what they have in stock and his time is up soon so might as well right? So this episode explains eren's intentions on attacking liberio; revenge sure, but mainly so that Historia wouldn't have to become a titan which would maintain their rumbling threat. He basically went over there just to weaken their military for a while, while Paradis gets up to speed with their technology? This is the one that really confuses me; does Historia HAVE TO become a titan in order for the rumbling to work? Can't eren just touchy touchy her as a human and then initiate the rumbling? Because then she doesn't have to make her family eat eachother every 13 years. Probably should be obvious but here goes anyway: Does Historia really have to have as many children as possible; like can she just have one and have that one eat her later? Or is it jus for insurance, like in case some die or can't have children? I may have missed it, but what is Historia's own position on the situation, does she intend to inherit the beast titan? Because she's obviously pregnant so, she probably wants to go ahead and eat zeke. Also, levi is currrently babysitting zeke until historia decides to eat him if I'm not mistaken, but this is in the present- when they had that meeting wasn't zeke in Liberio, so they didn't have him available to be eaten! Did they have titan serum at that time, so couldn't they have just injected Historia with that instead? I guess this goes back to the first question of does it have to be the beast titan specifically that Historia has to eat. Did the scouts also attack Liberio not only to retreive eren, but zeke as well for Historia to eat? I know zeke's plan has many layers and probably goes into spoiler territory, but if it's okay to ask, ultimately he WANTS to be eaten by Historia right? He WANTS the rumbling to happen, for whatever reason?? I'm fine with spoilers btw, I guess just hide it for the other people if you gotta go into spoilers If I'm confusing you that's fine, I'm confusing myself just thinking how to ask these questions. If it's too much (kind of is) then dw about it, you cleared up a lot of stuff already. Just continuing to ask because it seems you know your AOT, so I'd thought I'd take this opportunity The rumbling can be initiated when someone with the power of the founding titan touches a titan possessing royal blood. This is confirmed by the fact that the only time Eren could control titans was back in season 2 when he punched the smiling titan who we later on learned in s3p2 was Dina Jeager(Fritz), one of the last royals left behind on marley and Grisha's first wife and Zeke's mum. Eren says in s3p2 ep 9 that he felt connected to everything when he punched Dina and realises that it may be the way to use the powers of the founding titan. Touching Historia only caused him to recollect memories and he didn't mention (hasn't mentioned so far in the manga) about the same type of connection like in the case with Dina so the hypothesis is that it needs to be a titan of royal blood. So just having her be human wouldn't work and they have to carry out the vicious cycle of her family eating each other every 13 years while also producing additional kids. Its very fucked up. And yes, Zeke is the titan in stock. I loved that image, thank you for that. Eren went to Marley mainly to meet up with Zeke and retrieve him. Zeke is a titan with royal blood too but has only 1 more year left before his term is up. In fact, I would say his attack on marley has further worsened the standing of Paradis and everyone may attack them with more force. So, whatever time Eren bought was very limited and small. Historia needs to have multiple children in order for security. Think of it as risk mitigation in case some kids die early or even for continued possession for a long time. If Historia just has 1 kid, then effectively they have only 13+13=26yrs of bought time. Each additional kid adds on to this by 13yrs, so it is desirable for her to have multiple kids. Historia herself never wanted to be used as a tool and everything she has done so far screams that she wants to be her own person making her own decisions. She accepts becoming a baby factory now but isnt really into it and her acceptance is only for the sake of Paradis. If she didn't accept, there is no guarantee that the military won't forcibly titanise her and make her have kids. It is that fucked up. They had a scene in the previous episode where Yelena and some of Zeke's followers bring titan serums they have stolen from Marley during the attack on Liberio and present it to Pixis. So, they stole the serums when Eren and the scouts where fighting Reiner, Porco, Pieck, and Oscar worthy actor Zeke in Liberio. Zeke's plan is somewhat huge manga spoiler territory though and I won't go into that. I will just say wait and see and it will be explained. |
Feb 14, 2021 4:39 PM
#343
qguffey said: Diamond_Sel said: that scene with connie really hit in the manga so I'm glad they did it justice in this episode, also nice to see historia as always When that chapter came out, so many manga readers were pissed that Conny didn't recognize that he was laughing as a way of coping with what happened. I thought it was kind of absurd to be mad at Conny for being upset with Eren's reaction. Only viewers and Mikasa have seen Eren previously laugh to cope when Hannes died. exactly, out of the core group no one was closer to sasha than connie and seeing him come to terms with her death is a painful experience, his misunderstanding is valid and it hurts to see him react to his closest friend's death, every reaction feels raw and that is why it hits so hard. |
Feb 14, 2021 4:41 PM
#344
Clubby said: Lovlis said: Clubby said: Pretty boring episode, nothing of note happened. Expecting better going forward. how did nothing happen this ep? Compared to many prev action eps, this one has the most content and story, with political intrigues, character moments, dilemmas, mystery, etc. It just felt like back and forth dialogues, flashbacks that were too confusing because you never knew where you were in the timeline, and nothing of note happened compared to the previous episodes. do you not see the people writing whole essays over what this ep went over lol? Hizuru's involvement, diplomatic relations, Paradis dilemmas, rumbling, zeke's plan, scouts not understanding eren, some more characterization of eren's changes, etc. if you're confused about the flashbacks maybe rewatch it? or read an explanation idk, because it was rather clear Dialogue is very important, both in actuality and storywise. Action, on the other hand, is usually what fills in between plot points. not sure if you're just trolling tho, giving this season a 1 lol |
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Feb 14, 2021 4:45 PM
#345
MoonDragon72 said: keragamming said: MoonDragon72 said: Fuck... Around the time that Season 3 stared airing I saw an article with a headline that said "Attack On Titan reveals unexpected pregnancy". I was hoping that it wasn't Historia, but it was... On the brightside, it's obvious that she doesn't want this and is only going through with it because she didn't have a choice, although I have a bad feeling that this will turn into some homophobic bullshit like "falling in love with Ymir was just a phase and she just never had good dick yet so she fell in love with whoever banged her (it's obviously Eren)" or something like that. I also find it kinda funny how they revealed this in episode 69. I'm interested why do you think it's Eren? VP2003boi said: Well uh, isayama sure loves flashbacks! But seriously, what is with this obsession? Its just weird that literally everything in this show needs to be explained through them, it starts to feel kinda cheap after a while. Either way, this episode was uhmm fine i guess, when eren was talking to hange he mostly just came of as a little edgy, mostly because his "transformation" into an edgy dude is really sudden and we still dont know exacly why he became this way (although im sure we will get ANOTHER flashback for it later on). The talk between the main guys on the "train" was kinda cute tho, nothing special and honestly somewhat unnecessary, but it was a fine moment to relax i guess. And uh, did eren laugh when sasha died? I dont remember that being the case, because if he did, he sure has a great sense of humor as I also laughed on that part ahaha. The animation was extremely lacking, pretty much stills everywhere, but for an episode, with like ~12 animation directors, the art was still pretty good like usual, so no real complain on the visual department, at least for a more slice of life episode like this one. We got a 3 years time skip, are you not interested in what happen in these 3 years? Would it have been better if we didn't get these flashback and then you same one would complain about being lost by the plot? I guess the father could be someone else, but I honestly wouldn't be surprised if it's Eren. Correct me if I'm wrong, she would have to fuck someone who is a titan in order for this to happen right? Or is there something I'm missing? not sure where you got hisu needing to reproduce with a titan. no, she just needed to get pregnant. given just this ep alone, seeing how eren was the one who was the most against historia getting pregnant, why do you think he would be the one to actually do it? |
โญโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโฎ "All problems come from the human mind. In the mind, one's consciousness is just the tip of the iceberg. What lies beneath the surface... the subconscious... is far more vast." - Shun Aonuma โฐโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโฏ |
Feb 14, 2021 4:50 PM
#346
Lovlis said: MoonDragon72 said: keragamming said: MoonDragon72 said: Fuck... Around the time that Season 3 stared airing I saw an article with a headline that said "Attack On Titan reveals unexpected pregnancy". I was hoping that it wasn't Historia, but it was... On the brightside, it's obvious that she doesn't want this and is only going through with it because she didn't have a choice, although I have a bad feeling that this will turn into some homophobic bullshit like "falling in love with Ymir was just a phase and she just never had good dick yet so she fell in love with whoever banged her (it's obviously Eren)" or something like that. I also find it kinda funny how they revealed this in episode 69. I'm interested why do you think it's Eren? VP2003boi said: Well uh, isayama sure loves flashbacks! But seriously, what is with this obsession? Its just weird that literally everything in this show needs to be explained through them, it starts to feel kinda cheap after a while. Either way, this episode was uhmm fine i guess, when eren was talking to hange he mostly just came of as a little edgy, mostly because his "transformation" into an edgy dude is really sudden and we still dont know exacly why he became this way (although im sure we will get ANOTHER flashback for it later on). The talk between the main guys on the "train" was kinda cute tho, nothing special and honestly somewhat unnecessary, but it was a fine moment to relax i guess. And uh, did eren laugh when sasha died? I dont remember that being the case, because if he did, he sure has a great sense of humor as I also laughed on that part ahaha. The animation was extremely lacking, pretty much stills everywhere, but for an episode, with like ~12 animation directors, the art was still pretty good like usual, so no real complain on the visual department, at least for a more slice of life episode like this one. We got a 3 years time skip, are you not interested in what happen in these 3 years? Would it have been better if we didn't get these flashback and then you same one would complain about being lost by the plot? I guess the father could be someone else, but I honestly wouldn't be surprised if it's Eren. Correct me if I'm wrong, she would have to fuck someone who is a titan in order for this to happen right? Or is there something I'm missing? not sure where you got hisu needing to reproduce with a titan. no, she just needed to get pregnant. given just this ep alone, seeing how eren was the one who was the most against historia getting pregnant, why do you think he would be the one to actually do it? Ok, you do have a point about her just needing to be pregnant. And you are right that Eren was opposed to the pregnancy at first, but then there was that scene where he said there was no choice but to get her pregnant. I don't exactly remember everything that was said in that scene tho, but I do remember that. |
Feb 14, 2021 4:50 PM
#347
Clubby said: yeah agree with you, this ep is confusing as hell. i advice you to read the manga tbh, it's much better than this sh*ty adaptationLovlis said: Clubby said: Pretty boring episode, nothing of note happened. Expecting better going forward. how did nothing happen this ep? Compared to many prev action eps, this one has the most content and story, with political intrigues, character moments, dilemmas, mystery, etc. It just felt like back and forth dialogues, flashbacks that were too confusing because you never knew where you were in the timeline, and nothing of note happened compared to the previous episodes. |
Feb 14, 2021 4:53 PM
#348
Lovlis said: Clubby said: Lovlis said: Clubby said: Pretty boring episode, nothing of note happened. Expecting better going forward. how did nothing happen this ep? Compared to many prev action eps, this one has the most content and story, with political intrigues, character moments, dilemmas, mystery, etc. It just felt like back and forth dialogues, flashbacks that were too confusing because you never knew where you were in the timeline, and nothing of note happened compared to the previous episodes. do you not see the people writing whole essays over what this ep went over lol? Hizuru's involvement, diplomatic relations, Paradis dilemmas, rumbling, zeke's plan, scouts not understanding eren, some more characterization of eren's changes, etc. if you're confused about the flashbacks maybe rewatch it? or read an explanation idk, because it was rather clear Dialogue is very important, both in actuality and storywise. Action, on the other hand, is usually what fills in between plot points. not sure if you're just trolling tho, giving this season a 1 lol My 1 is to troll the AoT fangirls who think AoT being #1 on MAL is their life goal But yeah, I didn't find any of the dialogue all that great. The blushing part was awkward as hell, and all the flashbacks and flash forwards were annoying, since I was piecing together where we were in the timeline based on if Sasha was there or not |
Feb 14, 2021 5:04 PM
#349
| Ok, ok ok, really good episode and as you probably notices, this was pretty much a setup episode. My God, I love Hange: Called it back when we first saw this lady. She's related to Mikasa: So, that's what he did with it huh? I knew it, you fucking avaricious bastard! Ayoooo, calm the fuck down! ๐๐๐ Nooooooo, look to what they did to my poor girl Interesting, suspicious Levi, lmaoooooooooo Blush, blush blush No, no, no, no, no, shit is going down. |
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