Is this anime massively overrated?

Feb 8, 2021 3:05 PM

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PinkOni

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I think it deserves its score. Most recent episode was a 10/10 for me as well.

Feb 8, 2021 3:11 PM

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God damn. Stop with these stupid threads. If you want to post something about the anime being overrated, do it in one of the episode threads. Anyways, if you want my opinion, it's not overrated. Rudeus I would say isn't too much of a self insert, op protagonist. He makes a lot of mistakes morally and questionably to fulfill his greed & obviously reflects on them.

The reason why the anime is so popular & highly rated is because:
1. The good art, sound, and animation.
2. Not everyone, but some people can relate to the protagonist's laziness.
3. It's a coming of age anime from the beginning of Rudeus's life to the end.
4. It was already popular in Japan before the anime came out.
5. The anime just really appeals to a lot of isekai fans' tastes.

BigNut666Feb 8, 2021 3:17 PM

Feb 8, 2021 3:22 PM

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Randolph77

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this is still ongoing and you should wait until the adaptation is complete

why do so many people hate this adaptation?

Feb 8, 2021 3:36 PM

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Because they “don't like it”, but they can't stop watching it.

Feb 8, 2021 4:06 PM

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i think it’s pretty good, don’t understand the hate

Feb 8, 2021 4:21 PM

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corvusking

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In my opinion, it is overrated because so many people already have it in their head that the anime is a 10/10 despite likely being biased and basing their rating more on the material that this anime is adapted from.

So far, the best thing about the anime is its animation/art and its attention to detail. However, are these on a level to give it a 10/10? Not really. It still doesn't have a clear plot so it's hard to critique the story rather than the setup we've been presented with. The setup hasn't been great in my opinion and had too much nonsense (no matter how much people say it was for characterization).

Right now, it's just an isekai with above-average animation. So a 6/10. If the story proves to be good I would move it up to 7/10, if the use of music becomes good, it will be 8/10. And if something becomes exceptional, it will get 9/10. For it to get 10/10 will be really hard. It basically has to do something that really defines it as a king of its genre.

For something to move the score down, it would have to have such a negative trait that it's impossible to look past, such as the animation quality of Ex-arm or the plot of Redo. The underage ecchiness of the show would have to continue for me to subtract. There has been much worse (unfortunately) but I still retain the right to judge even the smallest amount harshly.

Some people don't understand what I mean by good use of music/sound so I'll provide one example:

Feb 8, 2021 4:29 PM

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Tower_Of_Trash

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"nothing happened"
5 episodes in and MC have gone through so much character developments already. If you want to complaint about anime at least do it right.

Feb 8, 2021 4:38 PM

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So another trash created another trash thread.
I think ppl already know why they like it.

Feb 8, 2021 4:40 PM

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corvusking said:
In my opinion, it is overrated because so many people already have it in their head that the anime is a 10/10 despite likely being biased and basing their rating more on the material that this anime is adapted from.

So far, the best thing about the anime is its animation/art and its attention to detail. However, are these on a level to give it a 10/10? Not really. It still doesn't have a clear plot so it's hard to critique the story rather than the setup we've been presented with. The setup hasn't been great in my opinion and had too much nonsense (no matter how much people say it was for characterization).

Right now, it's just an isekai with above-average animation. So a 6/10. If the story proves to be good I would move it up to 7/10, if the use of music becomes good, it will be 8/10. And if something becomes exceptional, it will get 9/10. For it to get 10/10 will be really hard. It basically has to do something that really defines it as a king of its genre.

For something to move the score down, it would have to have such a negative trait that it's impossible to look past, such as the animation quality of Ex-arm or the plot of Redo. The underage ecchiness of the show would have to continue for me to subtract. There has been much worse (unfortunately) but I still retain the right to judge even the smallest amount harshly.

Some people don't understand what I mean by good use of music/sound so I'll provide one example:

this makes sense.

And 5 episodes most of the character development has been on the surface, they do it all in like less than half an episode. For example He was a neet who couldn't go outside but saying something like 'if only a cute girl would help me I could go outside' and it happening is very superficial.

Feb 8, 2021 5:20 PM

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butter_carlos

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Nah I think it's fairly rated

Feb 8, 2021 5:29 PM

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Mf thinks that this anime is another generic isekai with generic art, generic animations, generic JRPG setting, generic sound design, generic directing, generic one-dimensional character, generic self-insert and OP protagonist, LOL.

Feb 8, 2021 5:31 PM

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I might've seen more than 10 thread like this already. So i might as well post something anyway.

I don't really understand what dissatisfies you. The first 4 episodes being a slice of life? What's wrong with that anyway. Were you expecting some sort of plot twist? Or him having to fight the demon lord? I don't know what you're expecting and you didn't bother to explain it either.

True, the first arc of mushoku might be slow. Mushoku being a slice of life isekai wasn't that much of a trouble for me. The story focuses on rudeus journey researching magic and explore the world as he grew up. There might be some plot twists here and there. But the time has yet to come. So you can either wait for a bit longer, drop it or wait for it to finish airing. But, i say give it a chance and you wouldn't regret it.

Still, if you're criticizing it for being a slice of life then perhaps you should just drop it. This anime isn't for you.

Common isekai tropes? Like what? The mc being overpowered? He might be. But look at sylphy. Rudeus is amazed at her progress in magic. He even says that she might even surpass him soon. So him being overpowered and special was never a thing. Sylphy can do a silent cast just like him. And paul could easily beat him in swordfight.

The mc having harem or ecchi fanservice? Think about it. He lives in a village. Barely knows anyone besides of sylphy. And i doubt if there were any other girls in the village as well. So he obviously wouldn't get a harem.

Fanservice? Well, i haven't seen him accidentally falls and gropes sylphy's breast and finds out that she's a girl! or something. Which is good. He eventually finds out but in the most pure and innocent way possible. And it's hilarious imo xD

It's not really overrated just so you know. Rudeus might be a trash in his previous life. Undoubtedly the worst. But he did try to become better. Most isekai protag would indulge in their own harem and overpowered ability. But he gets a decent character development instead of any of that. At least for now that is. If that's not a good thing then i don't know what's good.

Just enjoy the ride. You don't have to struggle to find anything special about it.

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Feb 8, 2021 5:47 PM

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Don't mind me...I'm just here to leave my signature in response to pointless threads like this.

Feb 8, 2021 5:59 PM

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BananaBenIbby

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Some of your points make sense, maybe I am just complaining about it being slow maybe isekai plus slice of life just feels like a mish mash for me like it hasn't decided a story but yeah it is just building up.
But there's definitely weird fanservice (if that's really the right word for it) in the anime and considering the last episode its definitely heading towards that sort of harem. It sometimes feel like Rudeus' main character traits is all about his 'tendencies' and I'm not sure he's really trying to get better.

Feb 8, 2021 6:03 PM

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Ngl I think it's honestly underrated, not as much as the other new Anime this season but considering it's still new, I think it's pretty impressive that it has a 8.38 rating despite the story only recently started moving. I've read the Novel and if they adapt it right then it's going to be really good.

Feb 8, 2021 6:16 PM

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LN reader here, to answer your question "No". This series is not overrated, the hype it has, is built around its fan base who already know what makes the story good. Rudeus is not the best MC, but it is his journey and redemption in this second life that make the story unique.

Nothing "big" has occurred yet because the story has a slow pace, right now it's focusing on world building, introducing characters, lore, currency etc to expand the world the MC reincarnated into. If you want your typical over powerd MC who gets all the girls and has to defeat the demon lord, then your in the wrong place, this is a redemption story about a scummy person given a second chance at life.

The action your waiting for should occur at about the end of Episode 7. Either keep watching it or drop it ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Jlarz56Feb 8, 2021 6:20 PM

Feb 8, 2021 6:27 PM

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BananaBenIbby said:
So far nothing has happened in this anime it's basically a slice of life isekai much like how Sao was. Its all been very much just common isekai with about the same amount of substance as the other lower rated isekai but with way more suspicious moments.
Are people just overeating this anime cos they call it the daddy of all isekai despite the fact that alot of the tropes already existed and they weren't really good originally?
Rudeus seems like another trash Mc who got reincarnated for not much, and is given alot of wish fulfilment

Well... Tell that to the author of Re:Zero, who said that this story, like, say, Clannad was life to some people growing up, was life for him. Also, what are you talking about? SAO had a ton more problems then just being a power fantasy. It also had problems with just dumping exposition, not keeping consistency, and with an overemphasis on rape, instead of torture, which made every rape scene... Kind of badly written.

However, in the first season, I instantly knew this was going to be a mature story. SAO had rape when it wasn't even necessary, even beyond what the author had written. Yet, not even halfway through, we see that Rudy's father is an asshole, and also kind of a scummy person. He literally cheated on his own wife. Despite this, however, like Rudy said, I don't really hate him. I got a similar kind of feeling with Kiritsugu from Fate/Zero. He's a cheating bastard, but he's also lost so much, and he's become so strong, by proxy, that it's almost impossible to fully hate him. Actually, that sounds more like Askalad then Kiritsugu, but that's not the point. There's a lot more thought in this show then there ever was in SAO.

Feb 8, 2021 6:57 PM

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I think the anime is really good so far. I’ll wait to fully judge it until after all the episodes have been released.

Feb 8, 2021 8:36 PM

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corvusking said:
In my opinion, it is overrated because so many people already have it in their head that the anime is a 10/10 despite likely being biased and basing their rating more on the material that this anime is adapted from.

So far, the best thing about the anime is its animation/art and its attention to detail. However, are these on a level to give it a 10/10? Not really. It still doesn't have a clear plot so it's hard to critique the story rather than the setup we've been presented with. The setup hasn't been great in my opinion and had too much nonsense (no matter how much people say it was for characterization).

Right now, it's just an isekai with above-average animation. So a 6/10. If the story proves to be good I would move it up to 7/10, if the use of music becomes good, it will be 8/10. And if something becomes exceptional, it will get 9/10. For it to get 10/10 will be really hard. It basically has to do something that really defines it as a king of its genre.

For something to move the score down, it would have to have such a negative trait that it's impossible to look past, such as the animation quality of Ex-arm or the plot of Redo. The underage ecchiness of the show would have to continue for me to subtract. There has been much worse (unfortunately) but I still retain the right to judge even the smallest amount harshly.

Some people don't understand what I mean by good use of music/sound so I'll provide one example:

I just finished the first five episodes, I didn’t read the source material and I don’t generally enjoy a lot of isekais, but the scores this show is getting is deserved. It has pretty good world building and there is some character development that’s missing from a lot of isekais. So far from the first few five episodes, I personally put it up to a 9/10. It sure does have its tropes and the ecchiness is there but if that’s your reason as to to giving it a lower score then this show isn’t really for you even from the very beginning.

Feb 8, 2021 8:58 PM

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corvusking said:
In my opinion, it is overrated because so many people already have it in their head that the anime is a 10/10 despite likely being biased and basing their rating more on the material that this anime is adapted from.

So far, the best thing about the anime is its animation/art and its attention to detail. However, are these on a level to give it a 10/10? Not really. It still doesn't have a clear plot so it's hard to critique the story rather than the setup we've been presented with. The setup hasn't been great in my opinion and had too much nonsense (no matter how much people say it was for characterization).

Right now, it's just an isekai with above-average animation. So a 6/10. If the story proves to be good I would move it up to 7/10, if the use of music becomes good, it will be 8/10. And if something becomes exceptional, it will get 9/10. For it to get 10/10 will be really hard. It basically has to do something that really defines it as a king of its genre.

For something to move the score down, it would have to have such a negative trait that it's impossible to look past, such as the animation quality of Ex-arm or the plot of Redo. The underage ecchiness of the show would have to continue for me to subtract. There has been much worse (unfortunately) but I still retain the right to judge even the smallest amount harshly.

Some people don't understand what I mean by good use of music/sound so I'll provide one example:

Dude, why did you must to care if other people rate this show with 10/10, you can rate 5/10 if you want, people who rate 10/10 to this show is because they like it and they know that, they are not brainless people or drunk people

Feb 8, 2021 9:34 PM

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khaixa said:

corvusking said:
In my opinion, it is overrated because so many people already have it in their head that the anime is a 10/10 despite likely being biased and basing their rating more on the material that this anime is adapted from.

So far, the best thing about the anime is its animation/art and its attention to detail. However, are these on a level to give it a 10/10? Not really. It still doesn't have a clear plot so it's hard to critique the story rather than the setup we've been presented with. The setup hasn't been great in my opinion and had too much nonsense (no matter how much people say it was for characterization).

Right now, it's just an isekai with above-average animation. So a 6/10. If the story proves to be good I would move it up to 7/10, if the use of music becomes good, it will be 8/10. And if something becomes exceptional, it will get 9/10. For it to get 10/10 will be really hard. It basically has to do something that really defines it as a king of its genre.

For something to move the score down, it would have to have such a negative trait that it's impossible to look past, such as the animation quality of Ex-arm or the plot of Redo. The underage ecchiness of the show would have to continue for me to subtract. There has been much worse (unfortunately) but I still retain the right to judge even the smallest amount harshly.

Some people don't understand what I mean by good use of music/sound so I'll provide one example:

I just finished the first five episodes, I didn’t read the source material and I don’t generally enjoy a lot of isekais, but the scores this show is getting is deserved. It has pretty good world building and there is some character development that’s missing from a lot of isekais. So far from the first few five episodes, I personally put it up to a 9/10. It sure does have its tropes and the ecchiness is there but if that’s your reason as to to giving it a lower score then this show isn’t really for you even from the very beginning.

Being better than other isekai that are mainly trash doesn't justify giving something a really high score. I'm starting from a base (5 for average) and adding to it based on the things it does above average, in my opinion. 10 is a perfect score and I think it's best to reserve a perfect score for something that is really raising the bar. Obviously, it's too soon to tell.

@Agrada

That's nice. Its animation is above average but not the best, its music is fine but not anything special or noteworthy, its story has barely taken off, the humor isn't lol funny. You can give it whatever you want, but it honestly makes the rating system a joke if it's so easy to get a 10/10. People might as well never look at the ratings. If you aren't giving this a 10/10 because you read the source material, I have no idea what you are giving it a 10/10 for. But you can do whatever.

Feb 8, 2021 10:29 PM

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Oh don't mind me.Just posting here before it gets locked

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Feb 8, 2021 10:31 PM

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I don't know, haven't started it yet, but I'm almost pretty sure no matter the high score, as it happens with 90% of seasonals, nobody is going to care about it anymore once the season ends.

Feb 8, 2021 11:05 PM

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corvusking said:

khaixa said:

I just finished the first five episodes, I didn’t read the source material and I don’t generally enjoy a lot of isekais, but the scores this show is getting is deserved. It has pretty good world building and there is some character development that’s missing from a lot of isekais. So far from the first few five episodes, I personally put it up to a 9/10. It sure does have its tropes and the ecchiness is there but if that’s your reason as to to giving it a lower score then this show isn’t really for you even from the very beginning.

Being better than other isekai that are mainly trash doesn't justify giving something a really high score. I'm starting from a base (5 for average) and adding to it based on the things it does above average, in my opinion. 10 is a perfect score and I think it's best to reserve a perfect score for something that is really raising the bar. Obviously, it's too soon to tell.

@Agrada

That's nice. Its animation is above average but not the best, its music is fine but not anything special or noteworthy, its story has barely taken off, the humor isn't lol funny. You can give it whatever you want, but it honestly makes the rating system a joke if it's so easy to get a 10/10. People might as well never look at the ratings. If you aren't giving this a 10/10 because you read the source material, I have no idea what you are giving it a 10/10 for. But you can do whatever.

Honestly, I've read the WN to the end, I'm the kind of person who hates perverted and clise harem type stories, and I'm still going to give 10/10 for these stories, you know what makes me like them?
-world building
-character development
-world identity(You can see the culture and climate of the world which is very influential with the story)
-additional and supporting characters
-zero to hero mc
-plot twist
-and i dont give a concern for pervert, harem think in this series

You can say I'm very satisfied after taking the time to read this story to the end

Feb 8, 2021 11:16 PM

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Agrada said:

corvusking said:

khaixa said:

corvusking said:
In my opinion, it is overrated because so many people already have it in their head that the anime is a 10/10 despite likely being biased and basing their rating more on the material that this anime is adapted from.

So far, the best thing about the anime is its animation/art and its attention to detail. However, are these on a level to give it a 10/10? Not really. It still doesn't have a clear plot so it's hard to critique the story rather than the setup we've been presented with. The setup hasn't been great in my opinion and had too much nonsense (no matter how much people say it was for characterization).

Right now, it's just an isekai with above-average animation. So a 6/10. If the story proves to be good I would move it up to 7/10, if the use of music becomes good, it will be 8/10. And if something becomes exceptional, it will get 9/10. For it to get 10/10 will be really hard. It basically has to do something that really defines it as a king of its genre.

For something to move the score down, it would have to have such a negative trait that it's impossible to look past, such as the animation quality of Ex-arm or the plot of Redo. The underage ecchiness of the show would have to continue for me to subtract. There has been much worse (unfortunately) but I still retain the right to judge even the smallest amount harshly.

Some people don't understand what I mean by good use of music/sound so I'll provide one example:

I just finished the first five episodes, I didn’t read the source material and I don’t generally enjoy a lot of isekais, but the scores this show is getting is deserved. It has pretty good world building and there is some character development that’s missing from a lot of isekais. So far from the first few five episodes, I personally put it up to a 9/10. It sure does have its tropes and the ecchiness is there but if that’s your reason as to to giving it a lower score then this show isn’t really for you even from the very beginning.

Being better than other isekai that are mainly trash doesn't justify giving something a really high score. I'm starting from a base (5 for average) and adding to it based on the things it does above average, in my opinion. 10 is a perfect score and I think it's best to reserve a perfect score for something that is really raising the bar. Obviously, it's too soon to tell.

@Agrada

That's nice. Its animation is above average but not the best, its music is fine but not anything special or noteworthy, its story has barely taken off, the humor isn't lol funny. You can give it whatever you want, but it honestly makes the rating system a joke if it's so easy to get a 10/10. People might as well never look at the ratings. If you aren't giving this a 10/10 because you read the source material, I have no idea what you are giving it a 10/10 for. But you can do whatever.

Honestly, I've read the WN to the end, I'm the kind of person who hates perverted and clise harem type stories, and I'm still going to give 10/10 for these stories, you know what makes me like them?
-world building
-character development
-world identity(You can see the culture and climate of the world which is very influential with the story)
-additional and supporting characters
-zero to hero mc
-plot twist
-and i dont give a concern for pervert, harem think in this series

You can say I'm very satisfied after taking the time to read this story to the end

"In my opinion, it is overrated because so many people already have it in their head that the anime is a 10/10 despite likely being biased and basing their rating more on the material that this anime is adapted from."

I have 0 idea why you are arguing with me.

Feb 8, 2021 11:18 PM

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We're still in the prologue. It is the most popular Japanese WN and one of the best isekai LN.

Feb 9, 2021 12:03 AM

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drakoneel said:

BananaBenIbby said:
So far nothing has happened in this anime it's basically a slice of life isekai much like how Sao was. Its all been very much just common isekai with about the same amount of substance as the other lower rated isekai but with way more suspicious moments.
Are people just overeating this anime cos they call it the daddy of all isekai despite the fact that alot of the tropes already existed and they weren't really good originally?
Rudeus seems like another trash Mc who got reincarnated for not much, and is given alot of wish fulfilment

How is Black Clover a 10 and this is overrated. I really wonder what is going through ur head..

The dumbest thing is i changed that score to 10 like 2 hrs ago, I decided spade kingdom arc and the previous elf arc was worth it. Mushoku hasnt shown anything particularly special at this moment

Feb 9, 2021 12:07 AM

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I came into this show knowing nothing about it and I think it’s very good.

Feb 9, 2021 12:22 AM

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Comparing it to SAO is an insult

1. Good production values. It looks stunning, art looks great, etc.

2. The story isn’t rushed. Exactly WHY it’s so good. What was accomplished in these episodes might not be much in the grand scheme of things, but it allows itself to establish the world, it’s power system, the characters, etc.

3. The characters are flawed. Unlike other isekai with a completely stale cast who seem perfect, this isekai goes to lengths to show how scummy the cast can be. Rudeus was a scum, fat, otaku in his past life, and he doesn’t magically become a perfect person in his next one. He still has flaws and problems that make him feel human, however that is what makes him a better MC than most out there. And his dad? His dad is FAR from a perfect individual. A womanizer, scumbag, however it’s these actions that make him FEEL REAL. That scene when he and Rudeus got into an argument and he let his emotions take control, however he learns from it, those little instances make the characters amazing.

Besides point #1, SAO missed on #2 and #3. It’s definitely not a generic clone, it’s a well-written show.

SoldierDream said:
I don't know, haven't started it yet, but I'm almost pretty sure no matter the high score, as it happens with 90% of seasonals, nobody is going to care about it anymore once the season ends.

Considering there have been discussion that it might be a long-running show, I highly doubt it.

MegaStrideFeb 9, 2021 12:25 AM

Feb 9, 2021 1:06 AM

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I love this anime because of the Animation style and the funny moments and thougs of the Mc. You're right nothing really big has happend till now but i am 100% sure that thus anime will be big

Feb 9, 2021 1:45 AM

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I don't think its overrated at all. I think its one of the greatest shows we've got this season. If the rest of the season is as good as the five episodes I've seen, Jobless Reincarnation might be the most goated isekai.

Feb 9, 2021 1:51 AM

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As a WN reader I know the potential it has story/character-wise, so I'm projecting based on that
As for the anime adaption, the pacing is perfect and the animation is gorgeous as well
The direction is great
I personally really like the work on SFX and I love the OP/ED

So yeah, that's why I rank it a 10/10

I really like Raildex, Mushoku Tensei, Dragon Quest Dai, Sabikui Bisco, Re:Zero, and Monogatari!

Feb 9, 2021 2:21 AM

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Personally I wasn’t sure on the first sort of three episodes, I enjoyed them but wasn’t blown away. But that last episode really hooked me and I’m super excited now to see the rest of the season. I reckon now he’s actually left his house things will get more interesting! But no I don’t think it’s overrated I just think it’s too early to make a complete judgement :)

Feb 9, 2021 2:27 AM

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@Agrada

-and i dont give a concern for pervert, harem think in this series

My value of ANY show goes down the more it uses fan-service to "entertain", especially if the show claims to be serious, like this anime.

This is the reason why this anime/story will never be 10/10 and maybe not even 9/10 in my list. The story focuses a significant portion of its time on (in my opinion - unnecessary) sex, masturbation, perversion, as well as TALKS about sex, masturbation and perversion. And it's been only 5 episodes so far! In the last two episodes, we even get introduced to a top-tier warrior woman who's basically naked...

Feb 9, 2021 2:34 AM

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BananaBenIbby said:
So far nothing has happened in this anime it's basically a slice of life isekai much like how Sao was. Its all been very much just common isekai with about the same amount of substance as the other lower rated isekai but with way more suspicious moments.
Are people just overeating this anime cos they call it the daddy of all isekai despite the fact that alot of the tropes already existed and they weren't really good originally?
Rudeus seems like another trash Mc who got reincarnated for not much, and is given alot of wish fulfilment

You are talking about the fanbase that somehow deluded itself into thinking this 2012 story started the isekai genre. Of course those subhumans would be completely delusional about everything else like its quality.

Feb 9, 2021 2:39 AM

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Sigmar-Unberogen said:
@Agrada

-and i dont give a concern for pervert, harem think in this series

My value of ANY show goes down the more it uses fan-service to "entertain", especially if the show claims to be serious, like this anime.

This is the reason why this anime/story will never be 10/10 and maybe not even 9/10 in my list. The story focuses a significant portion of its time on (in my opinion - unnecessary) sex, masturbation, perversion, as well as TALKS about sex, masturbation and perversion. And it's been only 5 episodes so far! In the last two episodes, we even get introduced to a top-tier warrior woman who's basically naked...

Yup, I thought that too, I think I really missed that part because I only read the text and i didnt really care when it getting animated but I still give this series a 10/10 rating because the point i give in above

Randolph77Feb 9, 2021 3:14 AM

Feb 9, 2021 2:50 AM

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corvusking said:

Agrada said:

corvusking said:

khaixa said:

corvusking said:
In my opinion, it is overrated because so many people already have it in their head that the anime is a 10/10 despite likely being biased and basing their rating more on the material that this anime is adapted from.

So far, the best thing about the anime is its animation/art and its attention to detail. However, are these on a level to give it a 10/10? Not really. It still doesn't have a clear plot so it's hard to critique the story rather than the setup we've been presented with. The setup hasn't been great in my opinion and had too much nonsense (no matter how much people say it was for characterization).

Right now, it's just an isekai with above-average animation. So a 6/10. If the story proves to be good I would move it up to 7/10, if the use of music becomes good, it will be 8/10. And if something becomes exceptional, it will get 9/10. For it to get 10/10 will be really hard. It basically has to do something that really defines it as a king of its genre.

For something to move the score down, it would have to have such a negative trait that it's impossible to look past, such as the animation quality of Ex-arm or the plot of Redo. The underage ecchiness of the show would have to continue for me to subtract. There has been much worse (unfortunately) but I still retain the right to judge even the smallest amount harshly.

Some people don't understand what I mean by good use of music/sound so I'll provide one example:

I just finished the first five episodes, I didn’t read the source material and I don’t generally enjoy a lot of isekais, but the scores this show is getting is deserved. It has pretty good world building and there is some character development that’s missing from a lot of isekais. So far from the first few five episodes, I personally put it up to a 9/10. It sure does have its tropes and the ecchiness is there but if that’s your reason as to to giving it a lower score then this show isn’t really for you even from the very beginning.

Being better than other isekai that are mainly trash doesn't justify giving something a really high score. I'm starting from a base (5 for average) and adding to it based on the things it does above average, in my opinion. 10 is a perfect score and I think it's best to reserve a perfect score for something that is really raising the bar. Obviously, it's too soon to tell.

@Agrada

That's nice. Its animation is above average but not the best, its music is fine but not anything special or noteworthy, its story has barely taken off, the humor isn't lol funny. You can give it whatever you want, but it honestly makes the rating system a joke if it's so easy to get a 10/10. People might as well never look at the ratings. If you aren't giving this a 10/10 because you read the source material, I have no idea what you are giving it a 10/10 for. But you can do whatever.

Honestly, I've read the WN to the end, I'm the kind of person who hates perverted and clise harem type stories, and I'm still going to give 10/10 for these stories, you know what makes me like them?
-world building
-character development
-world identity(You can see the culture and climate of the world which is very influential with the story)
-additional and supporting characters
-zero to hero mc
-plot twist
-and i dont give a concern for pervert, harem think in this series

You can say I'm very satisfied after taking the time to read this story to the end

"In my opinion, it is overrated because so many people already have it in their head that the anime is a 10/10 despite likely being biased and basing their rating more on the material that this anime is adapted from."

I have 0 idea why you are arguing with me.

Nope, i think its 10/10 for this adaptation after looking at graphic, background music, and the monologue they gave, I think they've worked hard to produce this good result so I appreciate them, is it wrong?

I once made a full 2D animation for a certain task and 5 minutes took more than 2 weeks to work on

You won't know how hard it is to make full 2D animation before you try it yourself

What i see that make me give 10/10 for this series is for story, monologe, graphic, background music, coloring and lightning, char designt, reference that they took for this series, the story that i alredy read, and another aspect that maybe you dont know in animation

Feb 9, 2021 2:52 AM

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Sigmar-Unberogen said:
@Agrada

-and i dont give a concern for pervert, harem think in this series

My value of ANY show goes down the more it uses fan-service to "entertain", especially if the show claims to be serious, like this anime.

This is the reason why this anime/story will never be 10/10 and maybe not even 9/10 in my list. The story focuses a significant portion of its time on (in my opinion - unnecessary) sex, masturbation, perversion, as well as TALKS about sex, masturbation and perversion. And it's been only 5 episodes so far! In the last two episodes, we even get introduced to a top-tier warrior woman who's basically naked...

that seems fair, not everyone has the same morals or come from the same culture. but I would have assumed that since this show goes against your morals, you would have dropped it by now, but you still keep on watching it. Because in the later episodes it's just gonna trigger you more as the those tropes are gonna get amplified. And the show is not gonna change from that path seeing the adaptation so far.

Nagatsuki Tappei (ReZero): It goes without saying that "Mushoku Tensei" is interesting, but first of all, it's amazing that you were able to depict the life of one character, Rudy. People say that "CLANNAD" is life, but for me, "Mushoku Tensei" is life

Feb 9, 2021 3:07 AM

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@rdturbo

that seems fair, not everyone has the same morals or come from the same culture. but I would have assumed that since this show goes against your morals, you would have dropped it by now, but you still keep on watching it. Because in the later episodes it's just gonna trigger you more as the those tropes are gonna get amplified. And the show is not gonna change from that path seeing the adaptation so far.

Obviously I'll keep watching. Just because the show isn't 10/10 in my opinion, doesn't mean I'll drop it. Unless it does something I consider "crossing the line" then I'll stick by and complain, because why not?

Overhype and LN readers are the ones I'd blame lol. It's natural for people (me included) to be more judgmental towards shows that get advertised like "10/10 best anime evuh". I start watching with very high expectations, instead of goin in neutral. What do I get. MC, who we are destined to watch and care for - is "trash" (in my opinion); add all the unnecessary sex-related "things" I mentioned, and what's left? Some eye-candy? It's hard for me not to feel negative to the show, no matter how majestic the world and the lore may be. Speaking of which, I'm 100% sure the anime will FAIL to describe the world/magic/fight-styles/climate - for a simple reason of it being an ANIME, not the LN. Unfortunately that leaves us, only-anime viewers, with very little to work with. (I've seen people complain about how characters like Zenith is poorly explained. The world and locations are not explained. Magic and sword-styles are not explained and so on) But we damn sure know that MC is a pervy shit, just like his father... -_-

With all this considered, I get quite annoyed by people giving it 10/10. (LN-readers seeing this comment: Please don't get triggered!) I consider these people to be biased. I believe they "fill the holes" in the anime, using their knowledge from LN. Which is not fair. LN and Anime should be judged separately, I think...

Sigmar-UnberogenFeb 9, 2021 3:12 AM

Feb 9, 2021 3:39 AM

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I think the answer to this is yes and no, but more so no. I haven't read the manga so I didn't know it was called the 'daddy' of isekai lmao.

I think it's rated highly, and rightfully so because the pacing, art, plot and characters are done quite well. Some people might disagree but imo it's doing these little things thoroughly that make even a basic plot very compelling.

But I can understand why people might not like the anime, as I do have some problems with Rudeus and Paulo's personality myself.

HOWEVER, me disliking Rudeus and Paulo's personality is separate to the fact that the characters are well developed.

It's the same reason arifureta is a more popular isekai than death march for example. I love arifureta, but I'll be honest, plot wise they're kinda on the same level. BUT the mc of arifureta has more 'personality' than the mc of death march.

Now I know that the mc of arifureta isn't a developed enough character to compare to the mc of mushoku tensei but you get the point.

Feb 9, 2021 3:42 AM

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Lol, the thread creator 10/10 My Hero Academia, Pokemon and also overrates the Isekai Log Horizon.

Taste is taste, case closed.

Feb 9, 2021 4:32 AM

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Sigmar-Unberogen said:
@rdturbo

that seems fair, not everyone has the same morals or come from the same culture. but I would have assumed that since this show goes against your morals, you would have dropped it by now, but you still keep on watching it. Because in the later episodes it's just gonna trigger you more as the those tropes are gonna get amplified. And the show is not gonna change from that path seeing the adaptation so far.

Obviously I'll keep watching. Just because the show isn't 10/10 in my opinion, doesn't mean I'll drop it. Unless it does something I consider "crossing the line" then I'll stick by and complain, because why not?

Overhype and LN readers are the ones I'd blame lol. It's natural for people (me included) to be more judgmental towards shows that get advertised like "10/10 best anime evuh". I start watching with very high expectations, instead of goin in neutral. What do I get. MC, who we are destined to watch and care for - is "trash" (in my opinion); add all the unnecessary sex-related "things" I mentioned, and what's left? Some eye-candy? It's hard for me not to feel negative to the show, no matter how majestic the world and the lore may be. Speaking of which, I'm 100% sure the anime will FAIL to describe the world/magic/fight-styles/climate - for a simple reason of it being an ANIME, not the LN. Unfortunately that leaves us, only-anime viewers, with very little to work with. (I've seen people complain about how characters like Zenith is poorly explained. The world and locations are not explained. Magic and sword-styles are not explained and so on) But we damn sure know that MC is a pervy shit, just like his father... -_-

With all this considered, I get quite annoyed by people giving it 10/10. (LN-readers seeing this comment: Please don't get triggered!) I consider these people to be biased. I believe they "fill the holes" in the anime, using their knowledge from LN. Which is not fair. LN and Anime should be judged separately, I think...

wise decision because I think the interesting part will soon appear in the next episodes

But you know, did you saw some detail when roxy delivering rudeus to the test, you can see the activities of ordinary people who are harvesting wheat and grapes, and they squeeze the grapes by being trampled by a young girl, and there are people who herd wild boars, You can see the furniture in the rudeus house, the form of rudeus house is simple and not much different from ordinary people even though his father is a knight in charge of that village, if you are observant enough they really take medieval references is better than in wn / manga.

you need to see the scenery as well in this story to feel the identity of the world of isekai here, and I think that the description of the world in anime is much better than in wn / manga.

Feb 9, 2021 6:11 AM

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Nope, oppositevly it deserves more attention.
One of reason is that this series let you think MC is overpowered, but at the same time, when you'll watch it, you'll understand, there's still more room for him to grow.

Feb 9, 2021 7:15 AM

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Agrada said:

corvusking said:

Agrada said:

corvusking said:

khaixa said:

corvusking said:
In my opinion, it is overrated because so many people already have it in their head that the anime is a 10/10 despite likely being biased and basing their rating more on the material that this anime is adapted from.

So far, the best thing about the anime is its animation/art and its attention to detail. However, are these on a level to give it a 10/10? Not really. It still doesn't have a clear plot so it's hard to critique the story rather than the setup we've been presented with. The setup hasn't been great in my opinion and had too much nonsense (no matter how much people say it was for characterization).

Right now, it's just an isekai with above-average animation. So a 6/10. If the story proves to be good I would move it up to 7/10, if the use of music becomes good, it will be 8/10. And if something becomes exceptional, it will get 9/10. For it to get 10/10 will be really hard. It basically has to do something that really defines it as a king of its genre.

For something to move the score down, it would have to have such a negative trait that it's impossible to look past, such as the animation quality of Ex-arm or the plot of Redo. The underage ecchiness of the show would have to continue for me to subtract. There has been much worse (unfortunately) but I still retain the right to judge even the smallest amount harshly.

Some people don't understand what I mean by good use of music/sound so I'll provide one example:

I just finished the first five episodes, I didn’t read the source material and I don’t generally enjoy a lot of isekais, but the scores this show is getting is deserved. It has pretty good world building and there is some character development that’s missing from a lot of isekais. So far from the first few five episodes, I personally put it up to a 9/10. It sure does have its tropes and the ecchiness is there but if that’s your reason as to to giving it a lower score then this show isn’t really for you even from the very beginning.

Being better than other isekai that are mainly trash doesn't justify giving something a really high score. I'm starting from a base (5 for average) and adding to it based on the things it does above average, in my opinion. 10 is a perfect score and I think it's best to reserve a perfect score for something that is really raising the bar. Obviously, it's too soon to tell.

@Agrada

That's nice. Its animation is above average but not the best, its music is fine but not anything special or noteworthy, its story has barely taken off, the humor isn't lol funny. You can give it whatever you want, but it honestly makes the rating system a joke if it's so easy to get a 10/10. People might as well never look at the ratings. If you aren't giving this a 10/10 because you read the source material, I have no idea what you are giving it a 10/10 for. But you can do whatever.

Honestly, I've read the WN to the end, I'm the kind of person who hates perverted and clise harem type stories, and I'm still going to give 10/10 for these stories, you know what makes me like them?
-world building
-character development
-world identity(You can see the culture and climate of the world which is very influential with the story)
-additional and supporting characters
-zero to hero mc
-plot twist
-and i dont give a concern for pervert, harem think in this series

You can say I'm very satisfied after taking the time to read this story to the end

"In my opinion, it is overrated because so many people already have it in their head that the anime is a 10/10 despite likely being biased and basing their rating more on the material that this anime is adapted from."

I have 0 idea why you are arguing with me.

Nope, i think its 10/10 for this adaptation after looking at graphic, background music, and the monologue they gave, I think they've worked hard to produce this good result so I appreciate them, is it wrong?

I once made a full 2D animation for a certain task and 5 minutes took more than 2 weeks to work on

You won't know how hard it is to make full 2D animation before you try it yourself

What i see that make me give 10/10 for this series is for story, monologe, graphic, background music, coloring and lightning, char designt, reference that they took for this series, the story that i alredy read, and another aspect that maybe you dont know in animation

Every competitive anime takes time. That doesn't mean it deserves a 10/10. I've seen nothing super creative or innovative but to each their own. You basically just said you are giving them brownie points for managing to get the anime out the door.

Feb 9, 2021 7:23 AM

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No, tell that to shingeki no kyojin.

So, because it's an isekai, it cannot have a high score? What is this logic? Most anime in the top 100 are more generic than most isekai themselves.

Feb 9, 2021 7:45 AM

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Camserous

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Damn people are really getting this defensive....

Anyways is this show overrated. I disagree. I mean it not halfway finished for us to judge it.

Feb 9, 2021 8:03 AM

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Dude there's a huge difference between SAO and this. Even if you think the plot is 'generic' for some reason, the writing, dialogues, editing more than makes up for it. This shows feels like a well written live-action movie. Even then, if you don't care about good writing the animation is absolutely fabulous, probably the best in this season.

Feb 9, 2021 8:10 AM

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Nahh.. the show are just keep better and better every single episodes...

Yeah nothing happened, what?
I swear I can't understand people like this...

5 episodes in, and we already got so much Character Development for Rudeus...

Feb 9, 2021 8:13 AM

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Tower_Of_Trash said:
"nothing happened"
5 episodes in and MC have gone through so much character developments already. If you want to complaint about anime at least do it right.

He literally said nothing happened, when there are so much stuff happening in just 5 episodes... Lmao

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