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| Totally loved the CGI, the last 10 minutes were intense af, what a pump! Amazing effects animation. The OP and ED fit perfectly. No noticeable blur. 10/10 so far. |
Karnox001Dec 6, 2020 11:27 AM
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| That was pretty good! Massive composite improvement over the trailer. Everything has a nice atmosphere clearly WW2 inspired, and feels alive. The fx looked pretty and everything felt as AOT as ever. Perhaps a little too much radial blur when the camera shakes, but that's about it. Asakawa's best work by a mile, I hope she keeps this up. Beast's model could use some improvements, but I can get used to it Next week's art looks pretty strong, and the composite does justice to those glowy windows, lol |
| I mean why is the episode so dark? Where are the beautiful bright colours? Falco looking at the sun looks more dark than Beast Titan under moonlight in Season 2 |
Unfortunately for you I don't work for them so I have absolutely no idea, but if I had to guess I would say between 1 minute and 2 weeks. |
| Pretty much a perfect start for the new season imo. The only things you can really critizise is maybe the CGI on the titans, (even tho it looks great and I had no problems whatsoever) the change in art style (which for me looked amazing) and the OP (where I kind of agree, that didn't catch me as much as WIT's OP's) Animation, Music, Art and Pacing is on point tho, from my point of view. |
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| I like the OP, fits well with the atmosphere. Looks like a montage of fucking Verdun |
| Looks fantastic. Action is miles ahead of S3P2 (excluding Levi budget-soak scenes) and the 3DCG was way better than I'd imagined. Armored and Cart are incredible, and I actually really like how the Beast looks. Only titan that bothers me is Jaws, cause its hair looks odd when it's that stiff, but the scenes where that titan was rampaging were definitely the best animated in the episode, so I'm completely cool with it. Even aside from titans, the 3D trains and ammunition looked fantastic as well. The part where Gabi takes down the armored train is way better than what I'd expected when I visualized how these chapters would get adapted. If MAPPA can keep this level of CG consistent, then I'll easily prefer this season's animation to Season 3's. Also love how MAPPA chose not to censor a lot of stuff that the PV did. The horrors of war can't be hidden, lest the impact be lost, so being explicit helps this episode a lot. And the fact that they went out of their way to add anime original scenes showcasing this already proves that their adaptation is worth watching, even for manga readers.  Voice acting and sound design is on point. It's odd hearing the trailer music, but that's cause I've been exposed to it so many times after watching the PV endlessly. It's a great tune regardless, and I hope we'll get to hear more of Yamamoto soon. OP is definitely going to divide people, but I absolutely love it. I don't wanna say it's my favorite til it's sat with me for a while, but it's up there. The fact that it's a huge departure from the previous OPs fits how this season itself is a departure as well, and I'm glad that MAPPA chose not to show any explicit spoilers in the actual visuals. My biggest gripes with OP3 and OP5 were that they revealed too much, so I'm happy that isn't the case here. Can't fully judge the ED until it's out, but what I heard and saw was stunning. If this is the only OP/ED set we're getting for this season, then I'm for sure satisfied. For people who watched the PV a lot, the fact that the actual episode looks much different can be jarring; it definitely was for me. If the episode messed with your head, I'd recommend going back and rewatching it later. Doing so helped me enjoy the episode without PV bias. It makes sense for this episode to be the most hated one. New studio, new animation style, new characters, huge tone shift, etc. SnK is inarguably one of the most popular anime / manga series, and a big chunk of fans likely haven't seen an anime that relies on 3DCG as much as this first episode did, so it's understandable for people to be shaken up by the CG usage. I remember when Season 2 came out and I saw the CG for the horses, I immediately thought that the entire season would be just one big downgrade from the previous one. As the anime goes on, though, I expect that the people who stick around will grow more accustomed to MAPPA's style, and complaints about CG will lessen. It'll be a hard pill to swallow for a lot of people, but it's more than worth it imo. Overall, Episode 1 greatly exceeded my expectations, and I hope MAPPA keeps up a consistent quality for the remainder of the season. Can't wait to watch again it in good quality later. |
bedheadDec 6, 2020 11:13 AM
| it's raining titans!!! hallelujah kinda boring, I don't care about these new kids opening was meh, red swan is still the best art/animation was the same as usual, all the bitching for nothing |
Omertaskaya said: So, those who watch the episode, how was the pacing ? The episode ends exactly with chapter 92's last page ? almost, it ends with a new added scene of a person with a beard and longish hair buying a newspaper in marley :") |
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Lukas_1405 said: People are actually complaining about "lack of colors" in a trench warfare setting? I know right? I've seen some extremely stupid complaints |
| That was a great episode and quite intense. Even though i already read to the latest manga chapter, it really hits different with all the intense music here and there |
The war has begun. |
| I'm sad the titans are full CGI but it still looks way better than the atrocious CGI collossal titan from last season. Some scenes (especially the ones with the beast titan) look like they're straight from a PS2 cutscene though. Soundtrack was meh, looping the song from the trailer really didn't fit that scene showcasing the horror of having titans rain down on a fortress. Decent first episode, but I'm worried that we'll see some major quality problems down the road if the first episode (which traditionally is the most polished) looks like this. The next three episodes should have little to no action so lets hope that can serve as a breather for the animation team before we get into the insanity that is chapter 100 and beyond. |
PernodiDec 6, 2020 11:35 AM
Pernodi said: the first episode (which traditionally has the best animation) I'm not sure if that's true, especially for AOT Never thought the first episodes looked the best |
Cloverfield999 said: Pernodi said: the first episode (which traditionally has the best animation) I'm not sure if that's true, especially for AOT Never thought the first episodes looked the best I edited it right before I saw your reply, I think "most polished" is the word I was looking for. |
bedhead said: Looks fantastic. Action is miles ahead of S3P2 (excluding Levi budget-soak scenes) and the 3DCG was way better than I'd imagined. Armored and Cart are incredible, and I actually really like how the Beast looks. Only titan that bothers me is Jaws, cause its hair looks odd when it's that stiff, but the scenes where that titan was rampaging were definitely the best animated in the episode, so I'm completely cool with it. Even aside from titans, the 3D trains and ammunition looked fantastic as well. The part where Gabi takes down the armored train is way better than what I'd expected when I visualized how these chapters would get adapted. If MAPPA can keep this level of CG consistent, then I'll easily prefer this season's animation to Season 3's. Also love how MAPPA chose not to censor a lot of stuff that the PV did. The horrors of war can't be hidden, lest the impact be lost, so being explicit helps this episode a lot. And the fact that they went out of their way to add anime original scenes showcasing this already proves that their adaptation is worth watching, even for manga readers. Voice acting and sound design is on point. It's odd hearing the trailer music, but that's cause I've been exposed to it so many times after watching the PV endlessly. It's a great tune regardless, and I hope we'll get to hear more of Yamamoto soon. OP is definitely going to divide people, but I absolutely love it. I don't wanna say it's my favorite til it's sat with me for a while, but it's up there. The fact that it's a huge departure from the previous OPs fits how this season itself is a departure as well, and I'm glad that MAPPA chose not to show any explicit spoilers in the actual visuals. My biggest gripes with OP3 and OP5 were that they revealed too much, so I'm happy that isn't the case here. Can't fully judge the ED until it's out, but what I heard and saw was stunning. If this is the only OP/ED set we're getting for this season, then I'm for sure satisfied. For people who watched the PV a lot, the fact that the actual episode looks much different can be jarring; it definitely was for me. If the episode messed with your head, I'd recommend going back and rewatching it later. Doing so helped me enjoy the episode without PV bias. It makes sense for this episode to be the most hated one. New studio, new animation style, new characters, huge tone shift, etc. SnK is inarguably one of the most popular anime / manga series, and a big chunk of fans likely haven't seen an anime that relies on 3DCG as much as this first episode did, so it's understandable for people to be shaken up by the CG usage. I remember when Season 2 came out and I saw the CG for the horses, I immediately thought that the entire season would be just one big downgrade from the previous one. As the anime goes on, though, I expect that the people who stick around will grow more accustomed to MAPPA's style, and complaints about CG will lessen. It'll be a hard pill to swallow for a lot of people, but it's more than worth it imo. Overall, Episode 1 greatly exceeded my expectations, and I hope MAPPA keeps up a consistent quality for the remainder of the season. Can't wait to watch again it in good quality later. Well thank you, finally a comment that makes me look forward to the episode again as much as I was yesterday, after all the whining and nitpicking so far. Still waiting for the subs to come out, but thankfully, I'm in Europe, so the delay isn't significant at all. As a Manga reader, just knowing that I can see those black and white panels animated with music and voices is just amazing. Super hype. If I can get hyped with those fan made animations on youtube I've watched over the years, then with this professional production I don't think I even have to mention it. |
Don't know why 400 1 star rating 🤦🏻♂️ |
| The long wait was totally worth it, although I didn´t understand what was happening at the beginning xD, IT WAS A GREAT CHAPTER that left me with a LOT of questions, and DAMNN a time skip of 4 years, I can´t be more excited! Additionally, MAPPA did a GREAT JOB and I was particularly impressed with the 3D CGI, it was soo polished!🙌🏼  |
carhs14Dec 6, 2020 11:49 AM
Funseco said: Why the fuck would there be bright beautiful colors in war?? It's dark for a reason my guy LMAOI mean why is the episode so dark? Where are the beautiful bright colours? Falco looking at the sun looks more dark than Beast Titan under moonlight in Season 2 |
Symofoner said: WAIITT... REALLY???!! But i see in AoT S4 page Sawano still in the line up. FUCK this, Sawano should be the only one taking care of the music. He's God tier composer, why TF they add someone to the line up and use the same OST repeatedly like an idiot. I hate this Kohta Yamamoto and Hiroyuki Sawano are teaming up for S4. You're not seeing it wrong. No one got replaced, before you paint the town red because of it. Before you call BS on it, check their teamed-up works in Crisis and Kingdom S3. They have similar flair and style and you can't pretty tell among those two -- except that Yamamoto has a bit of electro within his range of style. I wouldn't say much about the technical stuff as MAPPA pretty much delivered this better than what I expected. The CGI was better than the previous seasons but can still be improved along the way. The whole episode reminded me of ufotable's cgi+2d rendering, and the usage of pan-zoom effects are forgiveable at best. Good thing that they have V-sign in the team as they pretty much did a solid job in Dorohedoro. I'd say it is pretty solid first episode and is worth the wait. There are some rough areas but let's hope that it improves along the way, given how the new staff are doing their best to ensure a befitting treatment for this just like what Wit did in the past. While the new season looks like an entirely different show, it really takes a few rewatches (or a few episodes from here) and the changes will really grow on you. |
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| AOT haters in general, add to that other fandoms that don't want their rank being overtaken, then add to that haters who are simply hating it because it's Mappa and not WIT, and then add to that the CGI haters. Saying that, it's impressive that it has a score of 9.04 with more than 8% of the scores being 1. Shave that off along with some of the 10s and than you have a true picture. |
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| damn that art is so high quality, CGI is pretty good MAPPA really did a good job Aside from that, the War scenes are so good such a mystery this first ep started off with. |
I_Am_Freeballing said: AOT haters in general, add to that other fandoms that don't want their rank being overtaken, then add to that haters who are simply hating it because it's Mappa and not WIT, and then add to that the CGI haters. Saying that, it's impressive that it has a score of 9.04 with more than 8% of the scores being 1. Shave that off along with some of the 10s and than you have a true picture. Exactly. MAL is becoming more like reddit now. Damn, even reddit isn't as toxic as people in MAL. |
on | C sammymahesh said: I_Am_Freeballing said: AOT haters in general, add to that other fandoms that don't want their rank being overtaken, then add to that haters who are simply hating it because it's Mappa and not WIT, and then add to that the CGI haters. Saying that, it's impressive that it has a score of 9.04 with more than 8% of the scores being 1. Shave that off along with some of the 10s and than you have a true picture. Exactly. MAL is becoming more like reddit now. Damn, even reddit isn't as toxic as people in MAL. Make a counter attack, go sign up new account and rate this 10 100 times LOL |
| Uh it had to be CGI hadn't it? Im dissapointed really . For now 7/10 |
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| Love how the main theme comes back in as the battleships fire back at Zeke. God tier direction |
Pure titans falling from the sky were hand drawn, all pure titans scenes are (and pretty well animated for me) |
| YES I FINALLY WATCHED THE EPISODE SUBBED YEEE Honestly, the first half was top-tier, it felt the same old AoT, everything was outstanding as usual, the second half has ups and downs, the OST was splendid, the hype is was increasing, the fights were good. However, the CGI, some shots were SO PERFECT and some shots were SO AWFUL, but in overall, MAPPA"s CGI is x10 times better than WiT's CGI. Although I'd appreciate it more if we can get more 2D titan drawing, but it's no problem. I'm here for the story and the characters. If the animation and visuals are decent or average, that's more than enough. Some shots were visually appealing, the staff did a great job with showing the war's theme with the smoke and dead bodies everywhere. The new characters seem interesting, I liked Gabi, Falco and Falco's brother - I forgot his name lol -. I really like Isyama's depth in writing characters. Idk who I liked more from this episode, Gabi or Falco? But since I'm an anime watcher only, guess I'll have to wait for few more episodes to decide. The OP gave me goosebumps, I've been listening it for god knows how many times till now, I wasn't expecting anything good from this band but oof it exceeded my expectations, the video is eh, but the music itself resembles the theme of war, something like a military's anthem. I like also how the OP is called My war or basically, "Mein Kampf", highlighting the WW2-esque of this season. Surprsingly, the ED was soo good, and that's a rare thing to find among AoT's EDs, it was chill and relaxing, the visuals were good as well. OVERALL, the first episode is really, really good, It's the same AoT that I've been watching so far, and no the quality is still decent, in S3P1 the first episode got some pretty bad shots as well, same as S3P2, so It's something I can get along, Idm 1 or few bad shots in each episode if the rest of the episode is well-done in every other aspect. |
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| People trashing the episode because of the cgi... It wasn’t terrible but it wasn’t great. It’s better than I thought it would be. I’m nervous about the CGI for the rest of the season honestly |
ShoriTora said: Ao_Blue said: 8% gave a score of 1?! WTH? I might as well create 100 accounts and vote 10 as counterattack. Welp, who are you 8% anyway? Your opinion doesn't matter. Haters gonna hate. Hate for the rest of your life. Live in bitterness. There is also 90% who rated it 10/10. Do you not think its similar situations? 1 extreme is as bad as another. Spot on. Any kind of nuance and balanced discussion disappears when it comes to discussing AOT and other "big" productions. I think these forums are going to get pretty toxic when some of the serious stuff that is coming hits the fan. |
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