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| wow ok, this episode definietly had me scratching my head. Felt like i watched a fucking stellar action movie last episode, then hit my fucking head walking out and had the weirdest fever dream i could imagine. Not saying i didn't like it, it definitely...spiced things up? So trying to fucking decipher wtf is happening, basically a bunch of robo aliens took(????) our world and are using it as a live playing field, with humans as playable characters? These small robo "things" are kinda like the players while certain humans are the avatars, rest of the humans are humans? Maybe with like a monitoring chip in them to make them more obedient? Also linking the dots my guess is, Natsume is registered "Dead" in the system due to what happened at the start of the anime. She received a very fatal wound, so bad that the system rendered her dead beyond anything. Jokes on them she lived bitch, she might be the only one who could save humans from wtf ever is happening, thank God she isn't dense.... oh. oh no. The future of humanity might rest on her shoulders? Oh god help us xD I'll be damned though, i was expecting a twist in this story, but not one so.... odd. i won't lie, certain scenes with chibi Kaburagi acting all serious and stonic are kinda funny and cute and i forget he's talking about a serious topic. |
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| WOW big plot twist in this episode. It explained a lot about the chips and why Kaburagi could fight. It also opened the new mystery of the system and who it might be. I was not expecting something like this to happen. Though it was a shock, I thought the game was described pretty well. I'm still confused about Natsume and the humans though, and what the "bug collection" is. I hope it gets explained clearer in future episodes. During the first episode I was interested but worried the show would become too predictable. The second episode proved that thought wrong and I'm super excited to see how the series proceeds. |
| Did anyone else catch the easter egg of Penny and Leslie from The Amazing World of Gumball in episode two? That was really neat! I had a hard time understanding what was going on at first, but I caught up to speed pretty quickly. Episode three seems to be when the plot will really start going and that's pretty exciting imho. I don't understand why so many people last episode were saying it was too predictable and now they're saying it's too weird. They've been pretty critical of the art in the first half as well. I think it's really cool, and kinda retro! Unique art styles are what drew me to anime to begin with, and it's a good way to differentiate the two worlds. |
| Well... I now guess people who called this anime an AoT rip-off will finally shut up. But seriously, what's with this curious twist? I mean, I said last episode I hoped this series to find its own path but this "real simulation e-sport" outcome wasn't what I had in mind. As many other people already said, the aliens' design is really off-putting and jarring so the tension between serious scenes is almost non-existent but let's see if I can get used to it at some point. I wonder what happen when these aliens "stop playing" tho. Does Kaburagi's avatar just go NPC mode or something? Also, are all Gears just aliens playing? Because Natsume almost found out about that skins store. Anyways, I don't know what to think about this episode yet. Honestly, it left me feeling quite cold but maybe it was because of the overwhelming info-dump we got. Hopefully, upcoming episodes will be more engaging. |
| I dont really have problems with the whole world being a game. The only thing that bothers me is that the players being weird cartoonish people. Honestly, they could've designed the playes differently to attract more audiences. Dont know if I'm going to continue or drop it. |
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| Seriously why such a cartoony look. No thank you if this is going to be part of the next 10 episodes. |
StardewJul 15, 2020 10:35 PM
| Now, this got 100 times more intriguing. I don't get people dropping. Because it is not what you expected? Isn't that the whole point of aesthetic artifacts - to present something new? |
Farabeuf said: NenharmaTheGreat said: I was really excited for this anime, but the avatar thing kind of killed it for me. I'm gonna keep watching but I don't think I'll enjoy it as much as I thought I would of after seeing the first episode. Why do creators always think that making a mysterious story with a big twist is better? Sometimes a straight story, well executed and with solid voice acting is just as good if not better. Let's see... "It's another Attack on Titan Ripoff!" |
| Wow this is the most controversial episode I've seen, probably ever. Personally it's by far my favorite show of this season, but guess not for everyone huh... Perhaps we've had too many generic shows with mundane plot, that a mere plot twist is enough to throw people off. |
| This is getting weird, confusing but much more interesting... I Hope the plot twist becomes worthy of watching... Also... NATSUME reminds me all the time a combinaton of AKKO (Little Witch Academia) + KASUZA (Maidens of the Savage)... And her friend.. Fei, reminds me Momoko (Maidens of the Savage) PS: Now that im remembering Little Witch Academia, I miss my Sucy Manbavaran<3 |
Saiklo said: moodie said: >lowered stakes so you pretty much didnt understand anything about this episode huh? nor what it would obviously foreshadow For real. These kinds of people have the attention span of a 4 year old. The show literally tells you that its not virtual and shows you that they straight up kill the robots too if they underperform. I've watched over 600 shows, I think I know what I like and don't like. The story doesn't intrest me, so why should I continue watching it? |
| I'm fucking in bro. Like the first episode was super dope and looked like a cool anime, but after this episode there's so much more questions. like is this reverse avatar where aliens are controlling humans or something? it's so weird and i'm way more intrigued on the concept. Will the alien robot thingies realize that they're controlling people with emotions and shit. like they made it clear in this episode that the warriors that died had families and it's all tragic. like do the robot aliens know it's more than just a game? i'm shooketh |
Quinjao said: alhiris said: Wait what? So basically they managed to program that world, basically a full dive VR and that's how they have to solve the bugs? I find that kinda funny, I mean those guys made AGI and can't make an AI to handle bugs, seems legit. Also this kinda plot twist is what I totally didn't expect, I feel like it went down in my own rating/expectations but maybe it'll turn out to be amazing. It's not VR, it's all real, the humans and robots are physical beings. But the consciousness of the robots that live outside the dome is transferred to the bodies of the avatars (probably artificially created) I was so used to full-dive VR stuffs, that I assumed it's a VR. Now the anime's world improved by a lot cause it actually makes sense, lul. |
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| Pretty dystopian future. Human are chipped , those that escape being chipped or resist the chip control must be killed and the world is ruled by what I am assume are people that transferred their conscience inside machines and use humans as avatar in a game basically taking control of them from time to time. Good show. KaiZenKDP said: If anyone actually understands what just happened please fill me in lmao. I feel like I just watched a completely different show and I have no idea what's going on. Most humans are controlled through the chips by those creatures we saw today. They consider all this to be a virtual game so many do not care about what happens to the "avatars". I am guessing the creatures were once humans and they transferred their conscience to machines Skarvalin said: Some seem to think this is a virtual world which they explained in the beginning that it wasn't. I guess the humans made the A.I do the job of fighting the gadolls for them by making them see it as entertainment, and if they don't do well they get replaced. Meanwhile the humans assist them in safety. Would certainly be helpful since the population is so small. The bugs are troublemakers or something and the chips are there to keep them and others in check. That or the A.I/aliens came from space and created Deca-dence for the last remaining humans and chose to fight against the gadolls for entertainment. They then control the humans via a chip and use them for support. I think this one makes more sense. I'm happy that they decided to make the story more original but it was a pretty bold move to make it like this. Very interesting direction to take but confusing if you don't pay attention. you are wrong, the ones doing the fighting are real humans... the ones in control are no longer humans by the strict definition of the term. Sigmar-Unberogen said: WTF? Who could've expected such twist? I felt such disappointment at the beginning that i nearly quit right away. Avatars...games...points...wtf? This is not what i signed up for! Or at least that's how i felt till the end where things got intriguing again. What we Know or can speculate on: 1)What we saw in episode 1, the war, the fighting, it's real - but not for everybody!!! The Earth really is in ruin, but there is some "outer" force that is in control of everything. 2)Monsters are/have to be real, since, whoever's in control needs their blood or fuel or whatever; plus these monsters can kill REAL humans. (more on this below) 3)There are "players" who may or may not be actual humans. They can "die" while fighting the monsters, but they can "respawn" instead of actually dying - meaning their physical bodies are probably somewhere else; It's possible that they're "plugged" to some VR-like devices for "eternity" and in order not to die, they do ranking battles, kill monsters and fuel their avatars. Some seem to be working willingly for the company, and some are forced to do this job in order to survive, or perhaps that's simply their ordinary job, but most do it for entertainment as we're told from the start. They may be aliens, AI, or enslaved humans - or maybe all of them combined!!! 4)The male MC - Kaburagi - is apparently not REAL human (maybe he was once, but no longer), meaning if he dies outside Deca-Dence - he can simply get a different body made of flesh and bones, a new name and start over - unless they refuse not to and get "scrapped" and die for real (meaning their physical bodies - wherever they are - die from fatigue perhaps - after no longer receiving fuel). Just like this male MC, there are many similar FAKE humans, who walk among REAL humans. 5)There are REAL humans - made of flesh and blood, just like MC girl - Natsume. Real humans are said to be endangered species - and, apparently they are even fewer in numbers than it seems (since, as we figured out, many humans are FAKE like Kaburagi, and pretend to be real humans for various reasons). The REAL humans apparently DON'T know about FAKE humans, and will die, or - get hurt for good in battles - since that's how real life works, duh...! Meanwhile, FAKE humans respawn and don't even feel pain (unless they use cheat-code apparently). The REAL humans seem to be just as naive as we were after seeing the first episode - thinking that humans are fighting monsters and that's the whole story. They also seem to have CHIPS in them and are monitored by AI or aliens or whoever's in charge - meaning, humans are slaves just like in the Matrix. Though for some reason, this "alien" organization preserves whatever's left of mankind - Meaning - a)they don't want us to go extinct, b)are unable to do certain things without us, c)believe that this entire charade is essential for the survival of human race (hiding the truth is part of it since many would not accept it; rebel against it' cause chaos and unrest - after all, Deca-Dence is relatively safe place). If these humans find out "the truth", or go against the system - they get killed off, though our MC is exception since she apparently has no chip and system considers her DEAD - though i'm curious how this wasn't found out before??? - Though i'm sure we'll find that out once they explain how she survived after her hand was amputated. I think, that's it...for now... They do not respawn. Other people get born and if the system finds them fit to join the force they are turned into avatars. |
nightcrawlercypJul 16, 2020 1:11 AM
| oh nooooo!!! i dont like this show anymore :(((( |
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| From a generic show to an interesting show, cool twist |
| Uh, yea, I don't know what to think about this anime now. It feels like they lied to us OMEGALUL. I'll keep watching EDIT: yea, finished ep 2, I loved it. It's feels like I got cucked and I liked it |
HueBrDeusJul 16, 2020 2:25 AM
| Wtf? Lmao that plot twist is not it 😭 Anyway, got more interesting in the second half |
| It's baffling how many of you don't understand what's going on. Dropping it because you can't comprehend such a simple concept.. Stick to your slice of life shows, guys. |
| The story reminds me a bit of Westworld |
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alhiris said: Quinjao said: It's not VR, it's all real, the humans and robots are physical beings. But the consciousness of the robots that live outside the dome is transferred to the bodies of the avatars (probably artificially created) I was so used to full-dive VR stuffs, that I assumed it's a VR. Now the anime's world improved by a lot cause it actually makes sense, lul. Yeah I agree, it would be dull and generic If it was just a virtual simulation, the game being played in real life put the characters in another level of danger |
Oritsemisan said: BradyLE__ said: The whole avatar thing had me confused and I almost lost interest, but the episode wrapped it all together very well. Didn’t feel the AoT vibes as much as people warned (no where near as much as Kabaneri had). Definitely gonna continue to keep my eye on this one and maybe even watch it during its midnight releases. Swears! I was confused too, I really love the show EXACTLY! I did not really watch any PV's of this before hand, just really liked the synopsis and it being an original. Then when the robot avatar things came I was so confused, yet it drew me in more to figure out what was going on. Nice twist at the end with the girl being a bug/glitch in the system. I'll keep watching it and hope it keeps me entertained. Loved all the people saying AoT rip off because it is DEFINETLY not that now. |
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| perfect this will be my best anime this season can't wait for next episode |
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| This is interesting. The plot twist was, I think, good for the story, but personally, I think it was dropped a little early. If this episode was more focused on characterisation, then the world-building being taken in this direction would have a lot more stakes. Then again I believe the episode itself was written well, but I still do have a few questions - What exactly IS Kaburagi? At first, I had expected him to be a human that joined The Power (as was foreshadowed in episode 1), but now I'm not so sure; most likely, he's another 'robot' that has his avatar as human-looking because of the nature of his covert-ops job? We'll see soon enough. |
liam0207Jul 16, 2020 6:13 AM
  We don't know what kind of people we truly are until the moment before our deaths. As death comes to embrace you, you will realise what you are. That's what death is, don't you think? ------------------------------------ Itachi Uchiha |
Quinjao said: alhiris said: Wait what? So basically they managed to program that world, basically a full dive VR and that's how they have to solve the bugs? I find that kinda funny, I mean those guys made AGI and can't make an AI to handle bugs, seems legit. Also this kinda plot twist is what I totally didn't expect, I feel like it went down in my own rating/expectations but maybe it'll turn out to be amazing. It's not VR, it's all real, the humans and robots are physical beings. But the consciousness of the robots that live outside the dome is transferred to the bodies of the avatars (probably artificially created) I see that too, but then I have to wonder, what IS Kaburagi? Because originally I thought he was a human that joined The Power, but I guess his regular human-looking body is an avatar that's made to blend in with the humans? |
We don't know what kind of people we truly are until the moment before our deaths. As death comes to embrace you, you will realise what you are. That's what death is, don't you think? ------------------------------------ Itachi Uchiha |
| Went from 9/10 to 7/10 after this episode. Hopefully we won't see full episodes with only those avatars |
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| What the hell is this?? Are they seriously think that the "avatar" some how makes sense or are they experimenting us to see how much we can take this sh*t before we drop it !? |
RedChromeJul 16, 2020 6:56 AM
| While this episode made this show less generic, I still didn't really enjoy watching it which is why I am dropping it. |
| Huh? What? First of all, I like that there is a twist to this. If it had kept going the way it was, I would have dropped this ep.3 for how interchangable it was. However, the avatar world was in it of itself a turnoff. Ugly, childish design and no real storyline in there either. Then things got interesting with her being a bug, the various levels of interactions/ways 'people' view each other and character chemistry. As is I am clueless how things will develop and how a good, coherent story could be created. Right now, I would like to know whether there is a 3rd layer with actual humans controlling avatars before the game layer. Or if this is a case of AI gone rogue controlling real humans or an artificial world. |
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| That plot twist was so bad and feels extremely dumb. I don't mind the cartoonish style, the reveal itself is just so unappealing. I'll watch one more ep and probably drop it after. Such a waste of so much potential. |
| that cartoonish scene so ugly af and dumb !!! |
| I have so many questions and no answers. Don’t even know what to think about it, completely now what I expected to see. Still will give it a try tho. |
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