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Feb 2, 2009 9:18 PM
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So...is there a story here?

I'm beginning to wonder if there is in fact an overall plot, because, besides the guy in the chair and the blonde lady, I'm not seeing much to tie all of these stories together. As always, the relationship between Ciel and Sebastian is good, but when it's in the context of one of these kinds of one offs, it feels flat and sad.

This wasn't bad. It got a little good towards the end when Edward remembered his past, but still, I can't help but feel like I've heard this story before in this show. Not only because it mirrors Ciel, but because we just finished with the other prince in the last episode who dealt with something similar.
Feb 2, 2009 11:35 PM
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Well not really a story as of such as a random tale, I somewhat doubt that the ghosts will aid the storyline in future but I do agree it does resemble the prince's arc so not the most exciting of episodes.
Feb 3, 2009 3:09 AM
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It was decent... maybe it would be better if this was lengthened to 2 episodes, i would have loved to see more of Edward and his brother's past.

Feb 3, 2009 3:50 AM
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Blitzaga said:
It was decent... maybe it would be better if this was lengthened to 2 episodes, i would have loved to see more of Edward and his brother's past.


Same here ..
this is better than the previous prince's ark
to me they weren't that similar, atleast it didn't envolve curry.
anyways, i really enjoyed this episode alot.

next episode seems intersting Grell and the undertaker :P !
Feb 3, 2009 7:49 AM
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I hate fillers... geez, Kuro would be better without them.
Feb 3, 2009 3:00 PM
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It wasn't bad, but i think that the anime needs a little more of action, and how Blitzaga and Sasoora-san said this story would be better, and more interesting in 2 chapters, however I still love Sebastian and Ciel <3
Feb 3, 2009 6:19 PM
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Liked this episode, mmhmm! Filler or not. :)
Love the SEBASTIAN AND CIEL TEAMWORK--!!

Hurray, Grell in the next one...! :D
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Feb 3, 2009 6:32 PM
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Ew gross, last place I expected to see filler.
It went too quickly, would have been better if it was two episodes.
Richard was cute though.
I'm starting to suspect nothing is going to come out about the Circus Arc even though they introduced Joker (or at least a character that looked a hell of a lot like him).
If the next episode isn't that great I might rate this down and take it off my favorites, the last few episodes have felt really subpar... >:
But Grell might save it for me... xD
Feb 4, 2009 9:40 AM
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It was kind of interesting but it felt like a filler. ! episode arc next ep has the freaky graveyard guy YAY
Feb 4, 2009 10:04 AM

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It was okay but not as great as usual. I'm waitnig for Grell and Undertaker. They are the best.
Feb 4, 2009 2:44 PM

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The episode itself was alright, but it was great to have Mitsuki Saiga as a guest seiyuu :) Plus, the brothers were cute.

Can't wait for more Grell~ Gawd, he's so awesome XD
Feb 4, 2009 11:29 PM

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This episode was slightly boring.

Looking forward to Grell next week ^^
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Feb 4, 2009 11:40 PM
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...there is no nice way to put this..

this was the most boring episode since the begining of the show
Feb 6, 2009 2:45 AM

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It was a filler, right?
Feb 6, 2009 12:45 PM

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I think that relation between Ciel and Sebastian was very good in this episode... the scene with shoelace was so charming ;]
Feb 6, 2009 10:52 PM

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It was good but it would have been better not to move so fast and give it another episode so you could get better background.

It looks like the manga and the anime will go in different directions judging by the preview, and that there are only 8 episodes left and the Circus Arc would be to rushed.

Feb 7, 2009 9:50 PM

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i thought this was a good, creepy episode. i enjoyed it quite a bit. obviously the history's a bit off, but i found it interesting.

i'm not familiar with the manga storyline, so i assumed it was a filler though.

without giving away any spoilers, does anyone know how close they were to wrapping the series up? all the storylines seem to be disconnected and i can't tell whether they're any closer to the end than they were 10 episodes ago.
Feb 10, 2009 8:03 AM

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one word. huh?
Feb 12, 2009 9:59 AM

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I once again got reminded of what a spoiled brat Ciel really is >_<
Apr 29, 2009 9:59 PM

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I didn't love this ep even though I did vote 5 I wasn't think when i did that. But I do have to say that I do like this show a lot I do have a feeling that it is going to have a bad ending but that is be. Well not so much as a bad ending but more like a cliffhanger ending.
Jun 12, 2009 10:19 AM

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Maybe I'm evil but it was great to see Sebastian bully a child :D
Jun 23, 2009 6:00 AM

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Whoa, fanservice at the beginning xP Why do that, people? Dx I'm starting to regret reading the manga yesterday because now I see that the anime is way worse xP
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Jun 25, 2009 11:06 AM

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Ugh, filler. I wish it'd follow the manga more.. Like the circus arc would be nice to see.
I couldn't watch the episode without thinking of Kyou Kara Maou!. Wolfram's voice actor and the use of "heca"(sp?) kept reminding me of it.

Jul 10, 2009 4:12 PM

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Sebastian was cute in this episode, I didn't notice he had long hair xD


Jul 29, 2009 10:57 AM

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Has been very funny see Sebastian working for another master ^^

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Sebastian was cute in this episode, I didn't notice he had long hair xD


I don't know where he hide it before...
Aug 22, 2009 10:26 AM

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Liked how they included some history in this episode. I rather liked this episode. Funny how everyone is wondering what the plot of Kuroshitsuji is. This series has never really had a plot. It's just about Ciel and Sebastian's relationship. Nothing more, I thought.
Sep 13, 2009 9:45 AM

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A little boring, but still good though.
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Oct 7, 2009 4:25 PM

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Bleh. I thought this episode was boring compared to other arcs. If they extended it to two episodes, I think it wouldn't have seemed like a pointless filler episode to me.

Overall highlight of epsode:


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Funny how everyone is wondering what the plot of Kuroshitsuji is. This series has never really had a plot. It's just about Ciel and Sebastian's relationship. Nothing more, I thought.


Took the words right out of my mouth. This series just follows Ciel and Sebastian on their adventures as the "dog of the queen," clearing out all the mysteries of England. However, Angela seems like the only long-term conflict, seeing as she keeps re-appearing for reasons unknown at this point.

Next episode has the Undertaker and Greill. I am content with this.

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Oct 24, 2009 10:31 PM

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I'm not sure why everyone keeps bashing this episodes. This was one of the best episodes in Kuroshitsuji for me. Yeah, the message may be cliche, but they presented it rather nicely.

Eww... Grell is in the next episode. Seeing how everyone here is crazy for him (I'm certainly not), I guess I'm a maverick when it comes to this show.

Thanks, person who gave me this on another site a long time ago, lol.
Dec 21, 2009 2:58 AM

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Kalei said:
next episode seems intersting Grell and the undertaker :P !
lol, yeah, can't wait to see that!
Jan 23, 2010 12:09 PM

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Hmm, I think Sebastian enjoyed Ciel suffering as he didn't even know how to tie his shoe lace without the help of Sebastian, lmao. Okay, so there are ghosts in this episode. Very nice.

There were no actions in this episode but it was still good. I was just wondering if that Lord Richard was a boy, then how come his voice is a little girly? Also, 400 years without no rest? Damn, that's gotta be tiring. Well I guess if you're a ghost, you won't feel a thing.

Filler eh? It's not really suprising since almost all shounen that I've seen have fillers, lol. Also, it makes my Yaoi senses tingle everytime Sebastian says he's a property of Ciel, and only Ciel, lmao.
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Jan 31, 2010 4:29 AM

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Hahaha omg the cough at the end of the preview cracked me up. XD
Mar 25, 2010 9:59 AM

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noteDhero said:

So...is there a story here?

I'm beginning to wonder if there is in fact an overall plot, because, besides the guy in the chair and the blonde lady, I'm not seeing much to tie all of these stories together. As always, the relationship between Ciel and Sebastian is good, but when it's in the context of one of these kinds of one offs, it feels flat and sad.

This wasn't bad. It got a little good towards the end when Edward remembered his past, but still, I can't help but feel like I've heard this story before in this show. Not only because it mirrors Ciel, but because we just finished with the other prince in the last episode who dealt with something similar.




I really couldn't agree more with you!!!! I am wondering this since many many episodes ago and I'm still in WTF mode about the anime's storyline.. although I found thsi episode better than those with the prince.. I just love more darker plots and less funny stuff..
I feel that the idea of a demon batler, the contract and the abuse of Ciel are so so so powerful as a story idea, that they could have done wonders with it!! And here they are just wasting episodes showing silly and unmatching stuff!!
I wanna see the darker side of Sebastian and I wanna see his true face! He just can't be that loyal as he shows!
But I suppose the whole series will be wasted like that with meaningless subplots..
If it only focused on the main plotline.. with the adittion of Grell+Undertaker then it would really really be the best anime of my life. But now? not even close... gah i'll see if it will get better later on! *prays prays prays*
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Apr 11, 2010 4:51 PM

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At first I thought Richard was a girl. I wonder if Sebastien's nails is naturally black or if he paints them. If he does that would automatically make him goth,
May 25, 2010 12:22 PM

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lol @ his hair .

Althought curry episodes were better, this was fine too.
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Jun 23, 2010 6:51 AM

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Bleh, I didn't like this episode very much... But the next one, it looks like there's gonna be allot going on.
Jul 2, 2010 3:49 PM

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This episode was decent. I like how Sebastian keeps teasing Ciel at times. The best part about it was the preview for the next episode though.
Jul 4, 2010 6:07 AM
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Curry gief me!
Aug 13, 2010 5:49 AM

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lovely episode...

i went "awwww" when Edward went "you liar"
Aug 23, 2010 12:48 PM

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I really enjoyed this filler, rushed as it was
Sep 9, 2010 8:12 PM

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Meh. Boring episode.
Sep 18, 2010 9:18 PM
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Wow Ciel lied to Richard in the end. What a bastard
Sep 23, 2010 7:37 PM

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Sebastian sparkling saying "It is only natural for a butler of His Royal Highness, The King of England to be able to do this much." was the part I liked.. LOL
Oct 1, 2010 12:07 AM

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I actually really liked this episode. Man, this anime has some of the BEST filler I have ever seen.

I much preferred this ep to the last 2 eps.... just sayin'...

OOo grell and the undertaker next ep!!? Yay! :D
Oct 30, 2010 2:47 PM

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Despite having a totally random sub-plot and being filler, I enjoyed the episode a lot. This is kind of episode are what I longed in Kuroshitsuji; it's a really nice change. I really like when the implement of real history occurrences. I loved seeing Ciel as the spoiled bratty boy he is.

And of course, Saiga Mitsuki was a bonus~
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Nov 17, 2010 1:51 AM

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I really enjoyed this episode even though it didn't really help the story of the whole series.

Also, Ciel is turning me into a shotacon I think. :p
Dec 8, 2010 2:05 PM
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I liked this episode. It gets a 4/5 from me.

I just love to see Sebastian teasing Ciel but being loyal nonetheless. I also like darker episodes like this one. But in the end what I loved the most was the message of the episode. I know the "turning your pain into strength is the only way to move on" thing is kinda chliched but what can I do... I can't help but to identify with that.

Ciel lied to a parting ghost? The little bastard... xD
Jan 6, 2011 8:12 PM

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At first I was annoyed that Black Butler strayed from the main storyline all the time, but in every episode we learn a little more about Ciel.
Even though this show seems to have a lot of random fillers, I have no doubt that everything will come to a head in the end.
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Jun 26, 2011 8:36 PM

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Meh, this episode was alright...
From the preview I'm actually more interested in the next episode now lol
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Ah, Ciel you are such a liaar. "Don't worry, I won't touch the castle." - He's an evil little meanie.

3/5 - Filler? I really can't tell with shows like this though.
Alright episode, just totally unrelated. I see why some people tell me this show is mostly fillers. I've heard the second season is better though so whatever.

I honestly don't know the main plot of this show...
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