| It's basically just down to one sole reason for me: expectation As manga reader, you already have the idea of the world, how the story goes and so on, you already have that same world built in your mind/imagination and what not. So if the anime adaptation fall short from the one you pictured in your mind, you will be disappointed with the anime overall (or if the studio just blatantly make your manga to a trashy anime such as the infamous Berserk (2016)), if by any chance it meets somehow with the one you pictured, you will most likely give it an ok, just fine, and other similar remark as nothing new popped out of it (you already know the story and stuff in comparison, you will get that wow feeling when you're reading it as you don't know what will happen next), and (at least for me) there have been never a case where the anime adaptation goes over what my expectations was, but there's some cases where they tried to, and failed miserably (since they strayed too far from their source in order to make it happen). |
 ...whether it's now or ten years from now, if you are going to evolve as a person, generally you need to be broken down first. -Ayanokōji Kiyotaka- |
| I think that it's bevause an anime has more points to base your rating on. and sometimes when some points go up, some original points from the manga go down (or the other way around). a great example for me is the new jibaku shounen hanako-kun anime: the story and art-style and everything is greatly adapted, but the animation is almost non-existent. |
| one piece episode 321 15:46 (or 16:33) you're welcome |
| Caring about ratings...especially on MAL is a waste of time anyway. In the same way how the really good tiles don't get appreciation, the really good adaptations (and those are only few) don't get a fair rating too. Everything is about trends, hype and recency bias. |
| I think the problem lies within the fact the anime community on this website is way larger than the manga/novel community so it has a bigger pool of voters, which contains people with different opinions making a solid total. Manga/Novel fans have way more impact on the stuff they like as their vote counts for more on the total than an anime watcher. Another problem is the "anime hooked me to the manga" problem: I always give a look to manga counterparts before and after its anime season ends and the score always goes up, I think it is because people who liked the anime went to the manga and rated it the same. A person who disliked the anime is not very likely to go read the manga and so won't give his low-score vote on it. If we don't consider that, some anime adaptations just don't adapt well what its counterpart is supposed to offer, with lacking detail, changing plot elements, having weak audiovisuals, etc. |
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| The audience for source material is often drastically smaller than the audience for the adaptation. Especially if you look at something like light novel adaptations those generally aren't the source format for experimenting with new series for an average reader/viewer. That also means that the people who read source material will generally have more weight when they're scoring the source material. Meaning the people who tend to read the source material already have a pretty positive reception of that type of work, they're going to judge the adaptation based on what they read, and second hand hype from people who are drawn to the series going in blind will skew the ratings a bit. |
| There are a few reasons as to why: 1) The current climate of anime is that it's seasonal, and it's much easier and cheaper for studios to only adapt 12-24 episodes of a continually-publishing manga at a time, so to not do what the original FMA did and had an original ending. 2) People rate those episodes based on the individual arc(s), and not the whole story. So whatever is being adapted might be a low point in the source material (drop in quality). 3) People who read the source material might have higher standards and expectations than anime-only viewers, so they might complain about very specific things. 4) There could be issues with the studio and how they adapted it *cough cough 7DS cough cough Studio Deen cough cough*. 5) It's usually whatever breaks the internet that usually gets a higher score than expected. Demon Slayer exploded after ep19, pushing it into the 8.90s, now it's one of the most hyped shows of 2019 with a movie coming out this year. It also did the manga justice, outperforming the manga in a few scenes. It all comes to: how well it was adapted; how much was adapted %-wise; how many people's expectations were met; and the quality of the source material in the first place. When One Piece ends, it'll probably jump up a quite a bit in score and get closer to the manga's score because it's been fully adapted. |
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| Of course each one have a specific case/scenario but most of the times the original material is just straight up superior than the adaptation |
| I don't think about this too much, with the exception of comedy anime. We've gotten less than a handful of comedy adaptations that are actually good adaptations, most others have the worst comedic timing and stiff animation, those are almost staples in the comedy genre now because of how anime staff can't translate these panel-by-panel jokes into an animation. I mean it's fine if you still like comedy anime, I don't think you're bad for liking what I don't like, but if you're a "comedy anime only" kinda person try giving comedy manga a chance every once in a while. |
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| I don't read manga that often and much prefer anime as a medium but anime: 1. has a deluge of low quality, by-the-numbers lazy adapatations. Rushed stories that are too afraid to change things up to fit an adaptation. 12 episode shows don't need a million characters, cut them out - but that leads to the next point. 2. cutting content - which is a necessity - but people complain about it . on top of this, unfinished stories 3. more creative freedom on the mangaka's part. being a lone artist making a manga allows you more creativity than a studio which is decided in a board room with a group of decision makers. |
| Shoot first, think never. |
| In Dragon Ball's case it probably has to do with the slow pacing of Z, since it's the most common criticism made to the show. |
Daniel_Naumov said: Here I brought you glasses. It should be now clear just what I am implying when talking about ratings here. Naaah. It's you who forgot to bring your thinking hat mister Overmind. You are comparing ratings which are biased in the first place with data which is cherry picked by you and than you presume that the studio did its best...which is rarely the case even with good studios because of time and resource constrains or even some random logistical problems. You are even ignoring the cases when the source is practically unadaptable. You are ignoring the cases when the studio had the ambition to change the source, like the case with Kino No Tabi 2003 which for many is a good title, better than the 2017 one but unfaithful to the source thus hated by fans of the source. Like you could directly list your cherry picks and ask "X, Y and Z are perfect adaptions, why they are rated lower than their sources?". |
alshuJan 13, 2020 1:58 AM
| It's not a guaranteed thing for me, but if I do rate the adaptation lower than the source it's because the source had additional content I liked which was cut out of or changed in the anime adaptation and I liked how the source did it better. Also many "adaptations" are incomplete and do not adapt the full story from the source, therefore the source could be better by simply concluding the story. It's also quite possible that I liked how the anime handled things better too though or I sometimes dislike the content that was not adapted into anime and was okay with it being cut out. I rarely check out the source though, and it's mostly after watching the anime. |
KruszerJan 13, 2020 12:39 AM
| "The name's Gambit. Remember it." -Gambit "X-Men '97"  |
Daniel_Naumov said: Most say that the certain adaptations failed to present the original in a good light, so to say. But there could be a wide array of reasons for that - from production problems to writers not getting getting the original. Thus I think it would be better if you go case by case. Daniel_Naumov said: But only some ever say that it is impossible to adapt the comics or book into an animation to begin with. Because those cases are rare. Daniel_Naumov said: Are you claiming that? Could you bring us some examples? No, you first!  OK. A classic (non-anime) example is Watchmen. The com...I mean the graphic novel experiments with narrative techniques like special page layouts, text only pages (nowadays it's nothing of of the ordinary), comic inside the comic (they did that with the movie but didn't insert pieces of it in the proper narrative points) and OST (yes. OST inside comic book) which works when you read about it but don't when you actually listen to it when watching the adaptation... And for me Death Note doesn't work that well in other forms than manga...or maybe as written book too. The source gives you time to think about what is going on (there is a lot to ponder about in some scenes) and progress with your own pace. The anime just forces you its pacing which feels too slow at the boring parts and rushed at the interesting parts. Same will happen with an eventual 20th Century Boys adaptation - it's dragged up, fractured and has a lot of time skips which change the rules of the game. It could look as a total mess in anime form despite being a decent read. |
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