A Certain Magical Index (light novel)
| This season of Index is a great example of how NOT to do an adaptation. The “story” is a convoluted mess, and I doubt anyone but LN readers truly know what the hell is going on! Seriously, why make an anime if the only people who can properly follow it have to read a fucking book? I feel like the creators are banking on certain name recognition (such as Accelarator) and that people won’t mind that nothing makes sense because it’s all over the place! Well, they’re dead wrong. It’s a shame cuz I was looking forward to this season. |
| I find myself constantly wondering what the hell is going on, how the hell did Index get abducted from one moment to the next for instance and why are we left hanging for 2 episodes now.... Well, I find myself wondering about just about everything really,.... including why I even keep watching..... It's an absolute mess, too many factions and no time to get aquainted with the affiliated characters so no clue as where their allegience lies. Was it a running gag that Index did't have a very high presence in the first 2 series,.... in this series one can wonder why her name is in the title at all. I find myself watching ironically, to make fun of how terribly this is executed but in fact iit is of course just immensely sad for anime only watchers who lóved the series and where hyped about a new season... like me. It díd one thing very well,..... I am now absolutely determined to read the LN. This season of Index makes me a bit apprehensive about the upcoming 3rd season of Railgun though, a series I loved, I must confess, just that little bit móre than Index even (don't lynch me ;) ). Perhaps season 3 of Railgun stands a better chance as there is less source material to be crammed in? |
| Too bad for you, I guess since the second season itself was shit. And I don't think there's anything wrong with making an anime for LN readers only. |
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| I hope that at least they will do well with WW3 arc because s3 is mostly a mess so far. |
KiLLZONE15JYU said: Congintive said: It's most unlikely, rememeber the director is not good with actions only comedy.I hope that at least they will do well with WW3 arc because s3 is mostly a mess so far. Well, they can just cut Hamazura was his name scenes because I didn't find him interesting well they can show his fight with mugino though. |
| Thing get very confusing once you switch to Science side which is a shame because it's the interesting part of this franchise to me. |
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| What low self-esteem should your readers have to accept this horrific adaptation, even knowing what happens when you have to fill in the plot holes with something you read years ago, what is really regrettable is that this season will sell well. JC staff will think that he did it well and instead of reconsidering and dismissing the director and the rest of the staff, they will continue doing more seasons in this way. |
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KatsutoSaki said: Too bad for you, I guess since the second season itself was shit. And I don't think there's anything wrong with making an anime for LN readers only. Technically, there isn’t anything wrong, but you are alienating people who DON’T read the LNs. And I would think that a studio would be more concerned with making a product where they can maximize the amount of people interested in said product, not only a select few. |
| Even then its still not good. |
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| After 14th episode I wanted to raise my rank of this anime(during britain's princess ark) but after 15th-16th it only downgrades ... its totally messed I don't even know what is happening... I feel like watching 3 different animes with 3 totally different plots... worst season of Toaru(I will continue watching because its not bad in quality but totally not " anime only watchers friendly")... |
look at how the mighty have fallen on disc sales source - http://www.someanithing.com/series-data-quick-view |
deg said: Lol look at the difference To Aru Kagaku no Railgun. I knew it for a fact its more popular than index. Share it on my topic for NT is never going to happen.look at how the mighty have fallen on disc sales source - http://www.someanithing.com/series-data-quick-view |
KiLLZONE15JYU said: deg said: Lol look at the difference To Aru Kagaku no Railgun. I knew it for a fact its more popular than index.look at how the mighty have fallen on disc sales source - http://www.someanithing.com/series-data-quick-view yep and if JC Staff is still as busy as today then prepare for disappointment for Railgun sequel too |
deg said: There is a chance that JC Staff could bankrupt.KiLLZONE15JYU said: Lol look at the difference To Aru Kagaku no Railgun. I knew it for a fact its more popular than index. yep and if JC Staff is still as busy as today then prepare for disappointment for Railgun sequel too |
| This is what happens when 48 episodes worth of content is crammed into 26 episodes. The disc sales make me sad as a fan of the series, but with the way this adaption has gone, it is what this season deserves. |
| They deserve the downfall of the sales, the animation is so stiff and the art is wonky from time to time, not to mention the story is all over the damn place. |
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KiLLZONE15JYU said: deg said: Well there is one dude who is annoying me named harzard.ye but if you compare the discs sales of the previous seasons to this current season then you will know japan does not like it too (but still profitable unfortunately)  @deg guess japans fanbase's opinion is finally starting to shift a few month ago season 3 popularity was above JoJo part 5. |
| "among monsters and humans, there are only two types. Those who undergo suffering and spread it to others. And those who undergo suffering and avoid giving it to others." -Alice “Beauty is no quality in things themselves: It exists merely in the mind which contemplates them; and each mind perceives a different beauty.” David Hume “Evil is created when someone gives up on someone else. It appears when everyone gives up on someone as a lost cause and removes their path to salvation. Once they are cut off from everyone else, they become evil.” -Othinus  |
hazarddex said: Lol good meme anyway, but its not coming popular with the sales. There is a chance that it will get a remake.KiLLZONE15JYU said: Well there is one dude who is annoying me named harzard. @deg guess japans fanbase's opinion is finally starting to shift a few month ago season 3 popularity was above JoJo part 5. |
| Man I was really looking forward to this season dince its been so long but these comments kinda put me off. |
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deg said: look at how the mighty have fallen on disc sales source - http://www.someanithing.com/series-data-quick-view Damn! I mean, it’s not too surprising, everyone is either confused by the “plot(s)” or annoyed by how it’s literally all over the place. I don’t understand why they went down this route, seems like a big mistake, especially seeing those numbers. |
| This season isn't even that good of an advertisement for the novels if the reaction is anything to go by. As a diehard Indexfag that makes me sad since I do want a lot of people reading the material since it's great. Although, I'll probably still love this season when all things are said and done. |
KiLLZONE15JYU said: No there isn't wtf are you smoking.hazarddex said: Lol good meme anyway, but its not coming popular with the sales. There is a chance that it will get a remake.@deg guess japans fanbase's opinion is finally starting to shift a few month ago season 3 popularity was above JoJo part 5. Remakes don't happen until at least 10 years have passed, give or take depending on circumstances. Index missed its chance; this S3 would have been the time to do a remake but they decided to continue the story instead. In a kind of weird way I am glad they did that, because the way they're handling it tells me a remake would be worse than the old adaptations so no real point in having that. If you want a remake wait for 2030 or so. Assuming NT doesn't get adapted after this, that is, but we all know it will be adapted soon-ish. |
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Botato said: Its a opinion dude and it not bad if there is another director or other studio to do a remake. I won`t mind waiting 30 years if I have to but it would be cool if it was done properly. Well I am waiting to see what happens and if NT is going to happen then I hope there is another studio to do it or in the other case the director of railgun.KiLLZONE15JYU said: No there isn't wtf are you smoking.Lol good meme anyway, but its not coming popular with the sales. There is a chance that it will get a remake. Remakes don't happen until at least 10 years have passed, give or take depending on circumstances. Index missed its chance; this S3 would have been the time to do a remake but they decided to continue the story instead. In a kind of weird way I am glad they did that, because the way they're handling it tells me a remake would be worse than the old adaptations so no real point in having that. If you want a remake wait for 2030 or so. Assuming NT doesn't get adapted after this, that is, but we all know it will be adapted soon-ish. |
RPG_Fanatic said: This is what happens when 48 episodes worth of content is crammed into 26 episodes. The disc sales make me sad as a fan of the series, but with the way this adaption has gone, it is what this season deserves. This, OP is sadly true here, no way you can properly appreciate everything with such a pace. For starters S3 adapts some of the most complex and interesting arcs, and then, with just 2 more eps than S2, it adapts 2 more LN volumes than S2 did, and S2 rushed alot on vol9-10 which was actually a good thing there, but not here. Adome said: --ALEX-- said: This season of Index is a great example of how NOT to do an adaptation. The “story” is a convoluted mess, and I doubt anyone but LN readers truly know what the hell is going on! Seriously, why make an anime if the only people who can properly follow it have to read a fucking book? I feel like the creators are banking on certain name recognition (such as Accelarator) and that people won’t mind that nothing makes sense because it’s all over the place! Well, they’re dead wrong. It’s a shame cuz I was looking forward to this season. LN readers also hate it because of the poor art, animation and all the skipped/censored scenes. NOT every LN reader hates it, I dont, I understand what they are going with... this season III would have been great done like how SAO Alicization is being done, sadly the studios cant play it BIG like SAO's studios does. At this point I just hope that NT still happens, since it is clear they are hurrying to get to it and capitalize on the readers in Japan. |
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| Even majority of novel readers are pretty pissed off by this adaptation. Granted there's somewhat "eligible" reason behind this giant shitpile but even then a ginormous amount of budget won't still save lazy directing and terrible scriptwriting. I hope they'll stop with Index anime if the current director and his team are gonna be the one who's responsible for NT project. |
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| The whole series just couldn't translate well into anime and Index 3 is a big example of this with its horrendous pacing... Haven't read the LN but I bet it will be a much better experience then watching the anime |
Botato said: KiLLZONE15JYU said: No there isn't wtf are you smoking.Lol good meme anyway, but its not coming popular with the sales. There is a chance that it will get a remake. Remakes don't happen until at least 10 years have passed, give or take depending on circumstances. Index missed its chance; this S3 would have been the time to do a remake but they decided to continue the story instead. In a kind of weird way I am glad they did that, because the way they're handling it tells me a remake would be worse than the old adaptations so no real point in having that. If you want a remake wait for 2030 or so. Assuming NT doesn't get adapted after this, that is, but we all know it will be adapted soon-ish. Not necessarily true unlimited blade work got a remake 4 years after the movie. |
| "among monsters and humans, there are only two types. Those who undergo suffering and spread it to others. And those who undergo suffering and avoid giving it to others." -Alice “Beauty is no quality in things themselves: It exists merely in the mind which contemplates them; and each mind perceives a different beauty.” David Hume “Evil is created when someone gives up on someone else. It appears when everyone gives up on someone as a lost cause and removes their path to salvation. Once they are cut off from everyone else, they become evil.” -Othinus |
hazarddex said: Completely different case, though.Botato said: No there isn't wtf are you smoking. Remakes don't happen until at least 10 years have passed, give or take depending on circumstances. Index missed its chance; this S3 would have been the time to do a remake but they decided to continue the story instead. In a kind of weird way I am glad they did that, because the way they're handling it tells me a remake would be worse than the old adaptations so no real point in having that. If you want a remake wait for 2030 or so. Assuming NT doesn't get adapted after this, that is, but we all know it will be adapted soon-ish. Not necessarily true unlimited blade work got a remake 4 years after the movie. |
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hazarddex said: Not necessarily true unlimited blade work got a remake 4 years after the movie. There's a difference between remake the shows to follow closer to it's source material (Or having better pacing), and remake the shows to keep milking the franchise so the creators can get more moneys from fans. I'm pretty sure ufotable will remake HF movies into TV series after all of HF movies released, just like how they did with UBW lol |
MahiaErebeaNegi said: hazarddex said: Not necessarily true unlimited blade work got a remake 4 years after the movie. There's a difference between remake the shows to follow closer to it's source material (Or having better pacing), and remake the shows to keep milking the franchise so the creators can get more moneys from fans. I'm pretty sure ufotable will remake HF movies into TV series after all of HF movies released, just like how they did with UBW lol but Ufotable didn't make the UBW movie https://myanimelist.net/anime/6922/Fate_stay_night_Movie__Unlimited_Blade_Works |
| "among monsters and humans, there are only two types. Those who undergo suffering and spread it to others. And those who undergo suffering and avoid giving it to others." -Alice “Beauty is no quality in things themselves: It exists merely in the mind which contemplates them; and each mind perceives a different beauty.” David Hume “Evil is created when someone gives up on someone else. It appears when everyone gives up on someone as a lost cause and removes their path to salvation. Once they are cut off from everyone else, they become evil.” -Othinus |
hazarddex said: MahiaErebeaNegi said: There's a difference between remake the shows to follow closer to it's source material (Or having better pacing), and remake the shows to keep milking the franchise so the creators can get more moneys from fans. I'm pretty sure ufotable will remake HF movies into TV series after all of HF movies released, just like how they did with UBW lol but Ufotable didn't make the UBW movie Opps I forgot Deen is the one that made the movie lol. Still I'm pretty sure that's the reason why they remake UBW in the first place. |
| Comparison doesn't work anyway, but while money is the reason UBW was greenlit (higher ups who fund this shit were convinced after FZ numbers perhaps), a big part of it is Ufo staff are FSN fans and really wanted to make it. Also initially they didn't say what they wanted to adapt so most likely the plan was to start from Fate route, but we don't have behind the scenes proof for either case except a vague statement about deciding against Fate route to "respect the previous adaptation" or whatever. |
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