| You guys are probably tired of my shit and some cuck flagged my last thread as a "blog", but yeah here we go this is fucking discussion about some of the crazy shit people believe and how they try to categorize you using this whacky nonsense. I think I've given out enough details about my personal life on these forums so I'll just be short and to the point, some bitch grilled me for like an hour about this shit. Like star signs, myers-briggs, true colors temperament, zodiac sign, started asking me about my goals and accomplishments and I she wanted to go get our palms read, surprised she didn't bring up crystals... Anyway how much of this stuff do you actually believe in and what do you think about how ppl try to categorize you based on it? Personally I think its slightly better than doing it by race/gender, but this kind of stuff is nearly as stupid. Like I'd say personality is a big factor, but people's personalities change and they act different in different situations. I really just don't get it tbh and from what I've researched big 5 personality test is actually the most accurately backed by scientific data. So yeah what do you think first of all about all these categorizations and second about people who use them to categorize others... to me it almost feels like they're trying to cheat and get to know who you are without actually like spending the time to interact with you and get to know you as a person... like you judge people by their actions, behaviors, speech, etc. not how they score on a test or what month/year they were born. Also if anyone cares. Myers-briggs: INTJ Star Sign: Virgo Zodiac Sign: Rooster Temperament: Melancholic I pretty much started trolling her when she was asking about goals and lessons and shit, so I got no real answers lol. |
LoneWolfOct 5, 2018 8:38 PM
 "The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. If you try it, you will be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself." -Friedrich Nietzsche |
| I believe some people might take this stuff to seriously. I believe the most important part is just not to take it so seriously and just have fun. :D Here's mine. MBTI: ENFP Astrological Sign: Scorpio Chinese Zodiac Sign: Snake Temperament: Sanguine |
mascarponeOct 5, 2018 8:37 PM
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| Star signs and zodiac signs have no value whatsoever. Who seriously believes that everyone born in the same month/year-ish has the same characteristics/horoscope (I'm not even sure what star signs are used for tbh)? Personality tests can be used to better understand people, such as why person A made that decision (for example: because they put more weight on their feelings, F vs. T in Myers-Briggs), but someone who judges people solely based on their result from a personality test is horrendously simple-minded. I mean seriously, if someone thinks that an individual can be adequately described by a set of letters or a singular word or phrase, they either really don't give a damn about people and their complexities or their level of thinking is alarmingly primitive. |
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| Myers-briggs: INTJ. Star Sign: Scorpio. Temperament: Phlegmatic-choleric. I would not suggest it as a means of "categorizing" someone, but rather as a method of perhaps understanding certain aspects of them. |
  WORK IN PROGRESS ~The frog leapt forth to my lilypad memory.~ I was indoctrinated by an inamorata rabbit, Adenomata affronted. It was the verecund, dismissed creatures That I jubilated in most. This rabbit I would nurture, At the aiguille of esse, The anneal of noblesse. ❤️ Birdie ❤️ |
| Myers-briggs: INFP Star Sign: Aries Zodiac Sign: Horse Temperament: Phlegmatic, secondary: Melancholic (and some Sanguine, but pretty much no Choleric) Alignment: Lawful Neutral D-Factor: 2.88 Honestly-Humility: 4.2 Hatred said: Exactly why I don't believe that any of those categorizations show much about your tendency, especially not the star constellations. all that shit is so general every person can relate to them You can get some trends about your personality based on temperament, your MBTI type, the D-factor, the honesty-humility ratio and your alignment, though |
| I think star signs are pretty stupid. I've noticed from a young age that Aquarius (my star sign) is described as "incredibly independent, popular, unpredictable, rebellious, someone who embraces change, someone who isn't afraid to voice opinions, uncompromising, temperamental" etcetera and that's just not me at all. I feel like almost every single star sign describes me better than Aquarius. Other things used to describe Aquarius are so generic that it's just hilarious. "They like to listen to music." "They like to eat delicious food." "They like to breathe air." Wow thanks! I can totally relate to this! It's not like almost everyone likes to eat "delicious" food or listen to music. :D I also know a few other people with the same star sign and they're totally different. I like the idea of star signs for some reason but they're just not accurate/true. Just like horoscopes. Personality tests are probably the most reliable because even though they are full of generic questions and 99% of them were made by 13-year-old girls who had nothing better to do on a Friday afternoon, at least the results are somewhat based on the answers you gave to certain questions. The other most "accurate" thing I've encountered so far is the blood type personality thing, but that's also because there are less categories. At least that one kind of has to do with genetics, so that would make more sense to me than star signs but I'm still not convinced... I actually like the idea of having a stone that corresponds with my star sign as a good luck charm or something. I don't believe it'll actually work but I just think it's fun. x) |
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LoneWolf said: dude, RUN.You guys are probably tired of my shit and some cuck flagged my last thread as a "blog", but yeah here we go this is fucking discussion about some of the crazy shit people believe and how they try to categorize you using this whacky nonsense. I think I've given out enough details about my personal life on these forums so I'll just be short and to the point, some bitch grilled me for like an hour about this shit. Like star signs, myers-briggs, true colors temperament, zodiac sign, started asking me about my goals and accomplishments and I she wanted to go get our palms read, surprised she didn't bring up crystals... A person who thinks that she can judge people's character based on the pattern that's formed by a collection of burning balls of gas light-years away, can't possibly be sane. Anyway, don't listen to the people who call these threads your "blogs". At least you put some effort into them, something they certainly can't say about themselves! You're doing great. |
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LoneWolf said: Anyway how much of this stuff do you actually believe in and what do you think about how ppl try to categorize you based on it? Anyone who believes in such things, is to me to be considered mentally disabled. I don't tolerate any kind of religion and idiocy, all those things were invented as a fraud to make money from the ignorant and then everything went out of hand. Everything that can't be baked up by science is a Fraud and I'm really mad that the Government doesn't imprison all those fraudulent bastards. |
| Personality tests are the most accurate of any of those. Star signs and stuff are good for a bit of fun, but they really don't mean anything. Taking it seriously is stupid. |
| I do care about this. it helps me understand that everyone is different, there are so many types of people. So if someone does something i don't like or whatever then i just have to take it easy and admit that he is who he is. Myers-briggs: INFJ Star Sign: Sagittarius Temperament: Phlegmatic D-Factor : 2.66 Alignment : Lawful Good Im not into Star-Sign so much because it's pretty much only based from birthdate(?) so it's not that reliable. |
southerntwOct 6, 2018 6:48 AM
| meaningless in all aspects to me the only one i know is pisces and idr but intj or p or something for mb |
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| none of them are liable and I don't care at all neither do I know much about them I am the one in control so I can decide what I would do, what choices I make, what kind of individual I would become and all of these elements are subject to my action However, I wouldn't mind others telling me these things or taking those tests its kind of fun |
feelsbannedman said: I like pie. Who else likes pie? My favorite is apple i like pie too. my favourite is pumpkin. aaaand its that time of the year again for pumpkin pie. apple pie is tied with my love for pumpkin, glad someone else likes it too. |
| I find them funny, so, why not? Myers-briggs - INTP Astr sign - Aquarius Chin sign - Dragon Temperament - Melancholic I already faced people who stopped talking to me after finding out my astrologycal sign. Pretty crazy, pretty crazy. |
| They're interesting, but should definitely not be taken serious. I don't think it's appropriate to associate with anyone who does. These are the same type of people who fall for MLM schemes, join cults, become vegans, etc. |
| All of that bs is stuff people can use to seem like they have depth as a person. I also guess its a way for people to relate to other people, and maybe even use as an excuse as to why they act a particular way. TBH what other people believe in doesn't affect me most of the time so you should definitely keep doing you because I'm not trying to change anyone's beliefs. |
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Sayakafire said: I think a lot of the personality types that are in zodiac signs are accurate to some degree Think about it for literally ONE minute. Whenever you suspect that something might be true, you ask yourself this one simple question: "If this was true, what do you expect to see?" If zodiac signs predicted personality, what would you expect to see? One example: If Aries, Leo and Sagittarius really make people more aggressive, wouldn't you expect those signs to be over-represented in any given prison population? If Gemini, Libra and Aquarius make people more rational, wouldn't you expect those signs to be over-represented among academics and under-represented in prisons? this is what's called thinking of a testable hypothesis, and they apparently don't teach this in school even though it's the best way to see if your beliefs are true or false. Some people even say it's the ONLY way. And since these hypotheses clearly return negative results, we can tell that zodiac signs are pretty much bullshit, right off the bat. If common sense wasn't enough. |
Railey2Oct 6, 2018 9:16 AM
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Sayakafire said: I think those are just coincidences and fortune cookies use vague phrases that can appeal to almost anyone. Railey2 said: Think about it for literally ONE minute. Whenever you suspect that something might be true, you ask yourself this one simple question: "If this was true, what do you expect to see?" If zodiac signs predicted personality, what would you expect to see? One example: If Aries, Leo and Sagittarius really make people more aggressive, wouldn't you expect those signs to be over-represented in any given prison population? If Gemini, Libra and Aquarius make people more rational, wouldn't you expect those signs to be over-represented among academics and under-represented in prisons? this is what's called thinking of a testable hypothesis, and it's the best way to see if there's something to your beliefs. And since these hypotheses clearly return negative results, we can tell that zodiac signs are pretty much bullshit, right off the bat. If common sense wasn't enough. Well I am for the most part just mix and matching, but I wouldn't say that zodiac signs classify a persons given personality. It's kind of like when you get a fortune cookie, and you feel that the message you got is speaking to directly to you. It's just an estimated guess or a plausible outcome, but when I say mix and matching there is no definite suggestion that the zodiac signs determine a persons personality down to the last type. I've read my zodiac for Cancer before and I felt that I was in disagreement with some of its description. I think some of it can be accurate though. Just not in a perfect way. |
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Y-White said: It's called the Forer or Barnum effectSayakafire said: I think those are just coincidences and fortune cookies use vague phrases that can appeal to almost anyone. Well I am for the most part just mix and matching, but I wouldn't say that zodiac signs classify a persons given personality. It's kind of like when you get a fortune cookie, and you feel that the message you got is speaking to directly to you. It's just an estimated guess or a plausible outcome, but when I say mix and matching there is no definite suggestion that the zodiac signs determine a persons personality down to the last type. I've read my zodiac for Cancer before and I felt that I was in disagreement with some of its description. I think some of it can be accurate though. Just not in a perfect way. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barnum_effect aka "sometimes you are unsatisfied with your actions and wish you'd be more decisive" no shit. |
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Railey2 said: I do think there's a reason to allow yourself to be convinced of a fortune though. Maybe getting your fortune told can allow a person to move forward in life or help them find answers for something. Kind of like a placebo.Y-White said: It's called the Forer or Barnum effectI think those are just coincidences and fortune cookies use vague phrases that can appeal to almost anyone. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barnum_effect aka "sometimes you are unsatisfied with your actions and wish you'd be more decisive" no shit. |
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Kairos_Eries said: Damn son we get it, but don't tip your fedora too hard now.LoneWolf said: Anyway how much of this stuff do you actually believe in and what do you think about how ppl try to categorize you based on it? Anyone who believes in such things, is to me to be considered mentally disabled. I don't tolerate any kind of religion and idiocy, all those things were invented as a fraud to make money from the ignorant and then everything went out of hand. Everything that can't be baked up by science is a Fraud and I'm really mad that the Government doesn't imprison all those fraudulent bastards. |
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Ever_Onward said: MBTI: INFP (-T for that one test) Enneagram: 9w1 Astrological Sign: Scorpio Temperament: Melancholic Alignment: Chaotic Good D-Factor: 2.07 (18%) Honesty-Humility: 3.8 (80%) Whats an Enneagram and MBTI? Never heard of either is there a test for both? |
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Y-White said: I couldn't disagree more. Railey2 said: I do think there's a reason to allow yourself to be convinced of a fortune though. Maybe getting your fortune told can allow a person to move forward in life or help them find answers for something. Kind of like a placebo.It's called the Forer or Barnum effect https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barnum_effect aka "sometimes you are unsatisfied with your actions and wish you'd be more decisive" no shit. The far better option is to just grow up, recognize what you have to do to improve your life, and do it without a bullshit fortune. It's called being an adult. |
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| MBTI: ENTP-T Astrological Sign: Capricorn Chinese Zodiac Sign: Snake (By like a month from Horse) Temperament: IDK... Haven't done a test but I gues it would be something like raging or Furious |
  愛がなければ、見えない。 Without Love, the truth cannot be seen. |
Railey2 said: Lmao that's a definite fact I was just saying that's what some people resort to. Not everyone has the same mental fortitude as us. Y-White said: I couldn't disagree more. I do think there's a reason to allow yourself to be convinced of a fortune though. Maybe getting your fortune told can allow a person to move forward in life or help them find answers for something. Kind of like a placebo. The far better option is to just grow up, recognize what you have to do to improve your life, and do it without a bullshit fortune. It's called being an adult. |
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Railey2 said: Wait, aren't you that same person who made that thread about why tigers need to be killed and about dogs not being man's best friend? Hmmm.Y-White said: I couldn't disagree more. I do think there's a reason to allow yourself to be convinced of a fortune though. Maybe getting your fortune told can allow a person to move forward in life or help them find answers for something. Kind of like a placebo. The far better option is to just grow up, recognize what you have to do to improve your life, and do it without a bullshit fortune. It's called being an adult. |
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Ever_Onward said: oh yeah that's me.Cabron said: Wait, aren't you that same person who made that thread about why tigers need to be killed and about dogs not being man's best friend? Hmmm. Lmao. I believe he is. That's the only truly rational response, of course: to absolutely slaughter everything that poses even an extremely minor threat to humanity. Might as well just slaughter every animal on Earth, since I'm pretty sure a giraffe killed a kid at least once. the first argument was that humans are worth more than animals and animalic threats should therefore be eliminated. The second argument was that people who prefer dogs over humans for fulfilling their social need have failed as social actors. Never mind that none of that has anything to do with the topic at hand, so I don't know why you're bringing up. Are you trying to pull an ad hominem or do you just want to diss me? Either way, I don't care. If you want me to entertain you further, I suggest you make a thread for it or switch to PM. |
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If you're confused which Temperament you are, consult this picture: Myers-Briggs: ESTP (ISTJ shadow) Enneagram: 7w8 (Enthusiast/Challenger) Instinctual: so/sx (social/sexual) Temperament: Sanguine (secondary Choleric) Alignment: Chaotic Neutral (and some people say Lawful Evil) Zodiac: Gemini Rising Aquarius Sun Taurus Moon Aquarius Mercury Capricorn Venus Leo Mars Pisces Saturn Scorpio North Node (don't have Jupiter, Uranus, or Neptune memorized) Additional labels associated with my Myers-Briggs type: |
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| You don't have to get into all the funny stuff to be a spiritual person. I think the main component of being spiritual is having had a religious experience of some kind. Even atheists can have a religious experience, right? People have a tendency to get weird about it. My own brother was telling me how he thinks he knew his girlfriend in a past life... straight up saying this shit to my face... and it came off as total bullshit. Really weird, actually, and he's not even with her any more :P But I'm still spiritual, just in a more reserved way I guess. |
| I CELEBRATE myself, And what I assume you shall assume, For every atom belonging to me as good belongs to you. |
@Ever_Onward: Do you not know how to read or are you just too busy misconstruing my argument? Railey2 said: None of that has anything to do with the topic at hand, so I don't know why you're bringing up. If you want me to entertain you further, I suggest you make a thread for it or switch to PM. |
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| And I forgot my Chinese Zodiac is Wood Pig. |
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Ever_Onward said: 1) Ad hominem. These other two threads are completely unrelated to everything being said here, and instead of arguing about the topic at hand you're just attacking my character, which brings me directly toooo.. Railey2 said: @Ever_Onward: Do you not know how to read or are you just too busy misconstruing my argument? You're here in this thread pretending to be super rational. You're not. That's my point. 2) I don't care if you think that I'm irrational. 3) If you think that I said anything irrational in this thread, relating to this thread, feel free to say so. I don't think you'll find anything, though. 4) Not sure why you want to drag this out further, but if you just need someone to talk to you're probably better off going to a discord server or something. |
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| Lol, she seems to be obsessed about it.. I find this kind of stuff fun tho Myers-briggs: INFJ Star Sign: Virgo Temperament: Phlegmatic Alignment: Chaotic neutral |
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Ever_Onward said: You're continuing this exchange, further derailing the thread, while telling me I'm derailing the thread. That's irrational.Railey2 said: 1) Ad hominem. These other two threads are completely unrelated to everything being said here, and instead of arguing about the topic at hand you're just attacking my character, which brings me directly toooo.. 2) I don't care if you think that I'm irrational. 3) If you think that I said anything irrational in this thread, relating to this thread, feel free to say so. I don't think you'll find anything, though. 4) Not sure why you want to drag this out further, but if you just need someone to talk to you're probably better off going to a discord server or something. You're continuing this exchange, further derailing the thread, while telling me I'm derailing the thread. That's irrational. |
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Ever_Onward said: screw you, you don't get any credit her, because first off: you started it, and secondly: I called for it to end 5 comments up the exchange! That was like the essence of my first reply to you. Now shush.Railey2 said: You're continuing this exchange, further derailing the thread, while telling me I'm derailing the thread. That's irrational. I suppose I'll be the rational one and end it here. oddly enough, this one put me at some 60% extroversion. I don't think that's true.... interesting regardless. I think this is the first time I've taken a big5 test in a while, and the results differed a lot from last time. |
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Railey2 said: How adult and grown up of you. ;)screw you, you don't get any credit her, because first off: you started it, and secondly: I called for it to end 5 comments up the exchange! That was like the essence of my first reply to you. Now shush. #characterlimit |
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yoshu_ said: I don't care much about the types of others, since I don't like to discriminate or treat them differently because of it. But for myself, it's interesting to know the MBIT, temperament, alignment and similar stuff (except for stuff based on blood type or star sign which I agree are not reliable) in order to get to know myself better.I do care about this. it helps me understand that everyone is different, there are so many types of people. So if someone does something i don't like or whatever then i just have to take it easy and admit that he is who he is. Myers-briggs: INFJ Star Sign: Sagittarius Temperament: Phlegmatic D-Factor : 2.66 Alignment : Lawful Good Im not into Star-Sign so much because it's pretty much only based from birthdate(?) so it's not that reliable. Based on your D-Factor, I would have much rather categorized you in the neutral section. Also, because of your low honesty-humility score, you would feel more in the direction of neutral (speak: True Neutral) or chaotic (speak: Chaotic Neutral) to me. |
| i find most of that stuff pretty hogwash-y but i suppose i do sometimes note a few similarities in its assessments. but as someone has already pointed out, a lot of these are generalisations or very vague descriptions that manage to fulfill surface depictions of almost anyone. also i believe being told by a "doctor", "accurate quiz", or "the stars" that you're "a soft and creative soul whose stubborn but makes friends easily" can trigger a placebo affect on probably a lot of people... that being said - i do rather enjoy taking quizzes |
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