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Exeterna said: why did i click on the spoiler tabs ;-;JuanPGH said: Anybody notice how Daru was wearing a lab coat in the flashback? Possibly Okabe's? Lol , not every lab coat is okabe’s. Okabe got his lab coat reserved for |
Mohammadalmannai said: Zakew said: sorry I haven't played any visual novels or anything but please tell me, am I assuming correctly that Kagari Shiina is Makise Kurisu (or a sibling of her)? What I am about to say is not considered a spoiler as it is mentioned in this episode, but Mayuri adopted Kagari in the future so she is Mayuri's daughter. Yeah, yeah, I know that she is Mayuri's adopted daughter, but she is very similar to Kurisu, because of her long red hair and therefore I thought that this can't be coinsidence, but now I guess I was wrong and it's really just a coincidence. |
| "Kiryu Moeka desu. Can I come in?" |
 兵家 "Green how I want you green. Green wind. Green branches." |
| This episode was a pretty bad adaptation. They're taking the two main routes and smashing them together basically, while leaving out all of the violent scenes. Given that they are going with Stray Sheep first, however, it should proceed better from here if it takes that route to the required conclusion in order to reach the true end. I think we'll have this route for half of the series and the other route for the other half. I'm thinking they will avoid any real violence though. We'll get a little blood here and there like in the Steins;Gate adaptation, but nothing like the descriptions in the VN. I think I may pass on this until they finish it over four months from now. But yeah, I'm a pretty disappointed after seeing this episode. Really the entire episode should have been the war. By the way, the war is not the same World War III, and this isn't a spoiler if you take Reading Steiner into account. World War III happens in 2015, whereas this worldline change happened in 2010. Read the VN if you want to really know what's up. It will be out worldwide on PC before the next episode comes out (though it's available now on PC in English via fan-translation, which is very well done, though I'm guessing it might be based on the PS4 translation anyways.). |
| Omne Solum Forti Patria |
| Looks like the next episode is gonna be real interesting |
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Zakew said: Mohammadalmannai said: What I am about to say is not considered a spoiler as it is mentioned in this episode, but Mayuri adopted Kagari in the future so she is Mayuri's daughter. Yeah, yeah, I know that she is Mayuri's adopted daughter, but she is very similar to Kurisu, because of her long red hair and therefore I thought that this can't be coinsidence, but now I guess I was wrong and it's really just a coincidence. You're less wrong than you think. I'll minimize this spoiler as much as possible. Don't read if you want to be surprised. |
| Omne Solum Forti Patria |
| Ah, I see, thanks! |
| Shit,i forgot about Kagari , one of the dullest characters of the VN, looks like Steins;Gate 0 won't get a 10/10. The WWIII felt rushed and the Reading Steiner made little sense (tbh, RS is a little bit weird after all and poorly explained). Anyways, is a good episode and the tension is starting to build up |
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Hraktuus said: But yeah, I'm a pretty disappointed after seeing this episode. Really the entire episode should have been the war. Why should it be the whole WAR scene when some/most parts of it arent established yet? (like a certain referenced X-Day Protocol scene and the events following it wont happen till probably the 2nd half of the season as they go for PR first as the requirement for the true ending?) Just reread the original shrine scene of Close Epigraph leading into A Stray Sheep of PR Route and think about it how you would handle this weird divergence in a linear story like the anime is trying to? It just makes more sense to drop the original shrine scene and turn it into a single divergence point like the XMas Party. Its a bit early to call it a bad change as its probably gonna be a more memorable than the original divergence in the VN when the anime goes from PR into V&A -> MWC. And yeah A Stray Sheep is pretty much the weakest point of the VN so i can see why some VN readers just wanted Pandoras Box badly even if it wouldnt make much sense at this point. |
| The burden/mental stress that Okabe-kun has (all of those lines in his head) poor kid! |
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| I haven't played the VN. I'm happy for that cause I can watch the anime, form an opinion and then go and see what is changed between the two. But from what I got here many said that the war scene was rushed and terrible and context was taken out. S;G 0 is about to tell us what will Okabe do in order to make himself go back to the future and get the Alpha World Line. In the VN there are routes that you have to pass first in order to get to the true ending. So...S;G 0 is trying to tie it's routes in one linear watchable form. Things are sure to be taken out and be tied in a different time in the story in order to make sense. At least the war scene was tied to the beggining of the first episode, when Mayuri with her lovable (and obviously brainwashed) daughter Kagari, was standing in a war-torn Japan. In other things, this episode was full of info. Leskinen has something not neat planned and I kinda expected it. Moeka was about to come and make Okabe feel terrible once again. Also Episodes like that make me love S;G universe even more. |
| ***roaming the vast anime universe*** |
sanlei said: Hraktuus said: But yeah, I'm a pretty disappointed after seeing this episode. Really the entire episode should have been the war. Why should it be the whole WAR scene when some/most parts of it arent established yet? (like a certain referenced X-Day Protocol scene and the events following it wont happen till probably the 2nd half of the season as they go for PR first as the requirement for the true ending?) Just reread the original shrine scene of Close Epigraph leading into A Stray Sheep of PR Route and think about it how you would handle this weird divergence in a linear story like the anime is trying to? It just makes more sense to drop the original shrine scene and turn it into a single divergence point like the XMas Party. Its a bit early to call it a bad change as its probably gonna be a more memorable than the original divergence in the VN when the anime goes from PR into V&A -> MWC. And yeah A Stray Sheep is pretty much the weakest point of the VN so i can see why some VN readers just wanted Pandoras Box badly even if it wouldnt make much sense at this point. actually Stray Sheep and Orbital eclipse is the weakest so next episode will be as weak as this the plot will not start moving until Antinomic Dual Knightmare_YK said: Can a VN reader please explain what happened in the last episode's ending to the beginning of this episode? Okabe experienced WW then woke up in a bed and landed back to the rooftop? How? Minor spoilers are okay. Simply we assume reading Steiner kicks in due to the inconsistency of the memory okabe had, but the difference between here and in original series is we as the third person perspective and observer basically have "reading steiner" along with okabe, that's why whenever they jump between worldlines the reading steiner and worldline indicator shows and both we and okabe knows it. but in this case okabe did'nt even aware if this is RS or not, so the animation made vague so we can join the confusion along okabe. |
7th-ArchangelMay 3, 2018 10:36 AM
7th-Archangel said: sanlei said: Why should it be the whole WAR scene when some/most parts of it arent established yet? (like a certain referenced X-Day Protocol scene and the events following it wont happen till probably the 2nd half of the season as they go for PR first as the requirement for the true ending?) Just reread the original shrine scene of Close Epigraph leading into A Stray Sheep of PR Route and think about it how you would handle this weird divergence in a linear story like the anime is trying to? It just makes more sense to drop the original shrine scene and turn it into a single divergence point like the XMas Party. Its a bit early to call it a bad change as its probably gonna be a more memorable than the original divergence in the VN when the anime goes from PR into V&A -> MWC. And yeah A Stray Sheep is pretty much the weakest point of the VN so i can see why some VN readers just wanted Pandoras Box badly even if it wouldnt make much sense at this point. actually Stray Sheep and Orbital eclipse is the weakest so next episode will be as weak as this the plot will not start moving until Antinomic Dual Yeah you are right about that, which is why im personally glad we get this stuff out in the first half as expected. Still looking forward to it. Mouloxas said: Well i agree but it's not like we 100% know which route we are into. They could just completely smash the vn's structure and mish-mash all the routes together (because there's absolutely no point in teasing ww3 stuff otherwise) Reread the shrine scene of Close Epigraph leading into A Stray Sheep. The VN does the same, the major difference is just basically the anime actually showing more at this point in time. Your reasons for the plot to actually showcase it are more like a reason to actually not show it. Its easier to assume they follow PR->V&A->MWC order with some mixes like XMas in a linear fashion than it being a weird mish-mash. And even then we wont probably see the stuff so early, because the stuff you mention is interesting and fits more into the 2nd half. Also remember they still have an unadapted scene of X-Day Protocol which was also referenced in Pandoras Box. So theres also that which might happen before(or after) the turning point of the season. They also have to adapt the true Ending trigger anyway, which is probably the reason why we got the XMas Scene like that. |
sanleiMay 3, 2018 12:14 PM
Mouloxas said: sanlei said: Reread the shrine scene of Close Epigraph leading into A Stray Sheep. The VN does the same, the major difference is just basically the anime actually showing more at this point in time. It's not simply that it shows more in comparison, it shows stuff from Pandora's Box (nothing that can affect the plot at this point, but as i already said no reason to tease us so it hints at route mixing) Also remember they still have an unadapted scene of X-Day Protocol which was also referenced in Pandoras Box. They also have to adapt the true Ending trigger anyway, which is probably the reason why we got the XMas Scene like that. Which scene are you referring to? And yeah i agree about Xmas scene in regards to true ending trigger. The stuff it shows from Pandoras Box is basically the first scene which is kinda just described in textform in the VN in the transition to A Stray Sheep. See 7th-Archangel post, he has the pics of the scene in: https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1726349&show=0#msg55140799 So its kinda a better teaser than what was at most questionable in the VN? The other scene im refering to is: |
sanleiMay 3, 2018 1:27 PM
| The first episode that fell flat for me they really should have ended the last episode with his RS activating and it might have made the beginning of the episode make a bit more sense and they cut 2 hours of the VN into 2 minutes but added a bunch of other scenes in the episode that were kind of unnecessary. |
Okabe takes Vietnam Flashback? |
ShadowMage612May 3, 2018 2:32 PM
| Judging from the vn readers comments, I'm glad that I haven't read the vn yet. I can enjoy the story as it unfolds naturally and I've been having a heck of a time so far. I've got the nostalgic feeling that I'm watching the original Steins;Gate as it keeps you confused while the tension builds. Once the anime finishes I will go and play through the vn for the extra grisly details. |
kuanyam4 said: Judging from the vn readers comments, I'm glad that I haven't read the vn yet. I can enjoy the story as it unfolds naturally and I've been having a heck of a time so far. I've got the nostalgic feeling that I'm watching the original Steins;Gate as it keeps you confused while the tension builds. Once the anime finishes I will go and play through the vn for the extra grisly details. If you read the VN 2 years+ ago its still interesting how the anime presents the new Narrative in a linear way with the things that made the original anime enjoyable. It was bound to happen that some VN readers get confused, who are expecting later game stuff, while we are at 4/23 episodes in and scratching now the weakest parts of the VN in the first route PR, which is the true route order. It doesnt help that the anime had to change the main divergence point to a scene from the 2nd mainroute V&A with an interesting tease because the anime needs a single point to have the true route trigger as a fall back point later on in the Narrative. So dont think you wouldnt be able to enjoy it otherwise^^ But yeah at this point its easier to enjoy the anime without knowing the content out of order. However when you do end up reading it, you should read it in the true route order, imo its quite a bad choice to experience V&A first and the anime showcases this even more. |
sanlei said: kuanyam4 said: Judging from the vn readers comments, I'm glad that I haven't read the vn yet. I can enjoy the story as it unfolds naturally and I've been having a heck of a time so far. I've got the nostalgic feeling that I'm watching the original Steins;Gate as it keeps you confused while the tension builds. Once the anime finishes I will go and play through the vn for the extra grisly details. If you read the VN 2 years+ ago its still interesting how the anime presents the new Narrative in a linear way with the things that made the original anime enjoyable. It was bound to happen that some VN readers get confused, who are expecting later game stuff, while we are at 4/23 episodes in and scratching now the weakest parts of the VN in the first route PR, which is the true route order. It doesnt help that the anime had to change the main divergence point to a scene from the 2nd mainroute V&A with an interesting tease because the anime needs a single point to have the true route trigger as a fall back point later on in the Narrative. I couldn't argee more. The anime clearly follows its own linear route. The original S;G anime was great because it sucessfully combined the elements of different routes into a single linear narrative. I had little doubt S;G 0 could potentially do the same thing. |
Just_ChickenMay 3, 2018 4:38 PM
Just_Chicken said: I couldn't argee more. The anime clearly follows its own linear route. The original S;G anime was great because it sucessfully combined the elements of different routes into a single linear narrative. I had little doubt S;G 0 could potentially do the same thing. Its honestly a bit funny as the original VN was quite a mess to play through by using a very messy flowchart, even by complicated VN standards, to trigger the true ending. While the 0 VN with its pretty linear structure of basically two connected main routes in a order with a true ending on top with very few choices felt like it always had the anime in mind. But connecting the two routes espeically with the weird divergence points still doesnt allow to make it seem like a single route without breaking the transitions or repeating quite a few scenes in order to make a single narrative work. Basically the split alone would take quite a fair bit of time if they tried to adapt the shrine divergence scene properly with lesser V&A teases and more rushing for actual content later on. Still going to end up interesting how they handle certain future things and subending splits as some do feel required for a single narrative (or rather im just anxious if we gonna end up seeing Seargent Cleaner in anime form, while i didnt care as much for the original S;G subendings). |
| damn, Shining Finger always makes unexpected entrances. |
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| This episode definitely contained a lot of info and a hint that Kagari is staying at the shrine. Can't wait for the next episode! |
| no wonder that i got sleepy watching this episode, but for sure plot is expanding for real! 5/5. |
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Medic_Arch said: For your second spoiler, why would you think that? The director already confirmed he's using both main routes (PR and V&A).That WW 3 is pretty quick, but i get it, they just tease it on us DAGA OTOKO DA-mayuri ver. Why did you raise that dress Okabe? Just... whyyy Nice, they decide to go this way first, my worries are not happening. Heavy info episode, another PTSD moment from Okabe with Moeka, well plot is coming in 3.... 2..... 1....... |
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| Kagari literally has the same face as Kurisu. Interesting. |
AX3M said: Nice KissAnime comment steal there. LOL what???..... i dont use kissanime,first of all and ur telling me that some1 had the same comment as my comment there and ur accusing me of stealing his/her comment which i didn't see. and btw why i should steal his/her comment just give me a reason. oh yeah btw i use gogoanime its better |
| So what the hell happened with Leskinen there ?! Did he really just gone or teleported into somewhere when Okabe saw him ? I don't get it. |
| Still loving the interaction between Okabe and Amadeus. |
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MoumoonChan said: i want to ask something , does anyone know why amadeous told okabe that he called her very quickly after maho senpai closed the app while arguing with okabi ? okabe doesn't seem to do so ,, so why she told him that ?? Its gonna be answered at a later point like other things in this episode. Its gonna take quite a while though. So theres nothing to answer about this yet unless you want to spoil yourself. |
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