Nicaragua cancels planned welfare overhaul in bid to end protests

dehuman said:
he should tax more the rich if he wants social democracy (socialism government with capitalism economy)

Ag526 said:
He *HAS* been. He's been bringing in Corporations to pay for the Social Security and he's doing a decrease because 12 years ago Social Security was a Surplus and now it's 65 million dollars in deficits. He wants to bring all this under control.

They are literally chimping out because of a 5% decrease in their checks.


Take note Americans, this is gonna happen to you when the last of the Baby Boomers retire.

dehuman said:


i see sounds like an impending economic crisis there

Thrashinuva said:
Oh? How would you propose we resolve this economic crisis?

dehuman said:


borrow money from the world bank? to increase government spending that increases the economic growth through making infrastructure projects for example and livelihood programs as well as educational and skills training programs

Thrashinuva said:
How do you propose their government to improve education, infrastructure, and "livelihood programs"?

dehuman said:


details are up to more experts from their government, our poor country (philippines) that is having an good economic growth right now is doing things like that we borrow money from other countries and tax more the rich so the government spending on infrastructures and other things are up to increase the economy

Thrashinuva said:
But these experts are saying something different. Why don't you agree with these experts instead of the ones you imagined just now?

dehuman said:


wtf are all experts the same?

Thrashinuva said:
If I were to imagine myself in your shoes, I wouldn't know how to differentiate experts and how accurate their views are.

dehuman said:


lol i listen to experts that offers solutions/help and you can search the internet of what they are saying too if its historically proven then the more good

Thrashinuva said:
But so far your track record is just of you finding opinions that you agree with, and denouncing ones you don't. Just as soon as you find an expert that says something you don't like, you dismiss it and go find one that says something you like, and then you act like you've made the right choices.

dehuman said:


again im finding experts solutions that helps thats all

how about you whats the solution then?

dehuman said:


a government solution means a solution for the majority and the majority there does not like it

Thrashinuva said:
They don't have to like it. And the majority probably do like it, they voted him in. The solution is less government, because government turns everything into shit, which is what Ortega recognized and resolved to fix. But some violent people decided to be violent.

dehuman said:


i do not think so if you read the first post Ortega is starting to turn to a dictator and he wants more government control over everything unlike what you are describing

lol the issue is taxing more the poor people here to fund social safety nets (claims by the upcoming dictator) so thats not being less government at all dude

>The police crackdown on demonstrators and curbs on some media in the past few days have fueled broader criticism of Ortega, who has tightened his hold on the country’s institutions since he took office for a second time 11 years ago.
>But critics accuse Ortega and his wife, Vice President Rosario Murillo, of trying to establish a family dictatorship. The country remains one of the poorest in the Americas.

Thrashinuva said:
These days dictator is something you call someone if you don't like them.

dehuman said:


his people is calling him a dictator

and besides your point of less government should be the solution is not the case this dictator is going for

Thrashinuva said:
The leaders who are most likely to be called dictators are those of free countries, by the very citizens of those countries.

dehuman said:


lol you are going nowhere with your points

i already said your solution is not compatible with what Ortega is going for

if you are just insisting on changing the subject then no point continuing this

Thrashinuva said:
You asked me what my solution was, and I laid out Ortega's solution for you, telling you that I agreed with the welfare reform.

And then you say my solution isn't compatible with Ortega's solution?

What drugs are you on?

dehuman said:


you said less government is the solution which Ortega is not doing at all

anyway its pointless talking to a neoliberal like you, neolibaralism is the cause of much of the problems today especially economic inequality worldwide

Thrashinuva said:
Neoliberal? That's where we're at now? The liberal ideals of the past are suddenly new, now? What does that make you? A modern liberal? Your progressive values are just to be called liberal, just because?

My views don't align with any one group or ideology, but what you're referring to right now is my more libertarian views.

If you're going to go putting labels on people, at least learn the labels.

traed said:
Sounds like they should have just explained things better so people understood the changes planned.

dehuman said:


i see sounds like an impending economic crisis there

At the beginning of the decade of 2010, Nicaragua had a Gross Domestic Product (nominal) of USD 8,741 million. For the year 2017, the country's GDP reached USD 14,294 million. Up to the present (2017) the Nicaraguan economy grew by 63.5% during this decade with respect to the GDP of 2010.