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| Alot of comments here reflect what annoys me about anime and manga fans. They judge works based on a single episode or chapter of what is a larger story. Wait until the thing is finished before claiming things like 'bad writing' You wouldn't pause a film 5 minutes before the end, and say. I didn't like that bit 'bad writing!!' Honestly it is ridiculous. |
| My heart was in my mouth when I thought hinami chan was going to be butchered. Anyone care that Naki is dead? |
jedmanOct 3, 2017 11:34 AM
jedman said: Alot of comments here reflect what annoys me about anime and manga fans. They judge works based on a single episode or chapter of what is a larger story. Wait until the thing is finished before claiming things like 'bad writing' You wouldn't pause a film 5 minutes before the end, and say. I didn't like that bit 'bad writing!!' Honestly it is ridiculous. ++++++++++++++++++1 |
| Kaneki showing up after AND TO REPEAT MYSELF was ridiculous on its own and after this he get off screened by suzuya "ordragon whatever " is just bad writing no matter how you cover it You know you fucked up when even longest fans of the series call bullshit an you and the series been going downhill for a while now He's just doing part 1 all over again for the shock value and to make it seems "oh no everyone died" only to pull cheap twist yet again and Nothing happen to anyone and of course this is not the end the troll party is still going on Next chapter is the last it seems ..... lets follow him until the very end and see what he will do At least Hinami is save ..... |
Devil_SlayerOct 3, 2017 11:58 AM
| LMAO XD Hope it ends next chapter and part 3 starts with kaneki's kid as the mc. |
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| If someone liked this chapter, I feel sorry for him/her. Really shitty ending to a shitty manga. Original TG was so good. Maybe there is not a single Ishida Sui and the writer changed at :re. Either way shit is shit. Chapter score: -10/10. Series score: 0/10. Not biased at all. |
| LMAO so many salty f*cks in here. This was a glorious chapter!!! ;D |
| This..This..i dunno man this is just stupid Cutting the fight and using a cheap chock factor..Wow |
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SanOro said: This..This..i dunno man this is just stupid Cutting the fight and using a cheap chock factor..Wow You clearly understood squat the last 200+ chapters then. This was foreshadowed throughout the series, even stated 43 chapters ago lol |
| Am I the only one who wonder if we get a third part if Ishida-sensei will change his way to draw again like he did for Tokyo Ghoul and Tokyo Ghoul:Re ? |
| I'm lost. Did not expect this at all. Let's just see what happens in the next chapter. |
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| Well, It could have been worse. I'm not even mad at the ending, but I definitely have problems with characters teleporting, characters acting out of character, and offscreening important moments.This chapter had a combination of every usual problem with Ishida's writing. since Kaneki is supposed to be stronger than Suzuya and Hanbee, Ishida should have shown us how Kaneki was defeated, something like the ccg using strategy against an unstable Kakuja Kaneki or something, but skipping it like that... it just looks wrong. I don't agree that this chapter being a daydream is a good thing though, It will be worse, If it really is a dream then this would look even cheaper than it already does. damage has already been done. I'm 100% sure this is not the final ending. I do, I really liked Naki, actually I'm fine with Hinami dying if Naki lives. but anyway, RIP |
nemya said: No. Shit. I mean, in chapter 142 Kaneki just suddenly disappears and then appears in front of Hinami, and everything is just so chaotic it's actually freaking unbelievable. Can't believe Ishida is taking the same route as when he did the final chapter of TG. The number of chapters is even spot on, it's ridiculous! Still can't wrap my head around thisWell, It could have been worse. I'm not even mad at the ending, but I definitely have problems with characters teleporting, characters acting out of character, and offscreening important moments.This chapter had a combination of every usual problem with Ishida's writing. since Kaneki is supposed to be stronger than Suzuya and Hanbee, Ishida should have shown us how Kaneki was defeated, something like the ccg using strategy against an unstable Kakuja Kaneki or something, but skipping it like that... it just looks wrong. I don't agree that this chapter being a daydream is a good thing though, It will be worse, If it really is a dream then this would look even cheaper than it already does. damage has already been done. I'm 100% sure this is not the final ending. I do, I really liked Naki, actually I'm fine with Hinami dying if Naki lives. but anyway, RIP |
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XavierLockhart said: No. Shit. I mean, in chapter 142 Kaneki just suddenly disappears and then appears in front of Hinami, and everything is just so chaotic it's actually freaking unbelievable. Can't believe Ishida is taking the same route as when he did the final chapter of TG. The number of chapters is even spot on, it's ridiculous! Still can't wrap my head around this yeah, Ishida sure loves his parallels the first page of this chapter still seems suspicious though |
| what the fUCK just happened |
| When you get a new kakuja form and you get offscreened by Suzuya and Hanbee SMH Kaneki beat Arima and you're telling me he couldn't beat them? BULL somethings fishy. I'm glad people agree that the quality of the series isn't the same (not saying its gotten worst or better because It's clear there are people who argue both sides), but the general tone feels very different than the original and the beginning of RE and I think that's something we can all agree on. I think TG has always been a bit shouneny during the battles, but lately its been really pushing the bar. This chapter reminded me why I'm so dedicated to tokyo ghoul regardless of whether this defeat was predictable or not. Looking forward to the new serialisation (I think??) |
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nemya said: XavierLockhart said: No. Shit. I mean, in chapter 142 Kaneki just suddenly disappears and then appears in front of Hinami, and everything is just so chaotic it's actually freaking unbelievable. Can't believe Ishida is taking the same route as when he did the final chapter of TG. The number of chapters is even spot on, it's ridiculous! Still can't wrap my head around this yeah, Ishida sure loves his parallels the first page of this chapter still seems suspicious though It was good, really goood, but I don't think it was as effective this time because Ishida already parallaled the ending of TG during the fight with Arima and the pay off was insane there with the conversation Kaneki had with Hide in his mind while attempting to overcome the man who created him (into Sasaki). This time it sort of felt like, "oh here we go again another time you think back to the time you came up short because you want to protect more people again". I sympathise with Kaneki, don't get me wrong, but like I said, his big "i will protect" moment was with Arima, not Suzuya imo |
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| the tragedy and asspull were twisted and unpredictable as always... but, why the fuck the narative is almost always confusing... so hard to understand what happened if you only read it once... |
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Maledict said: What in the hell...? Did I just see Ken, the Arima killer, while fighting with a full kakuja, get off-panel'd by Suzuya and that one guy? Excuse me? I knew Ishida was horrible with strength consistencies, but this is a whole new level. Or Arima was always the strongest. That never happened. Arima killed himself, he wasn't even trying to kill Kaneki, he could have done it easily. Suzuya is SS and Hanbee is S rate, they are fully prepared and is using freaking Arata, Suzuya is at that state closer to Arima than Kaneki ever was. Meanwhile we got Kaneki,a sick,dying and starving ghoul. Of course he get rekt. Furuta already said that Kaneki lost because he try to do everything himself. He never learned. If he bring Tsukiyama and Nishio, they could at least separate Hanbee from Suzuya making it one on one. I wasn't fan of the chapter at first but there's a reason why everything happened. The fight was skipped to make us wonder what happened in between, did Dragon appeared? Why did Kaneki forgot? We could have a long and tedious fight like shonen manga but Ishida decided to do it another way. This is obviously not the end. There are many things unresolved. |
Kaiser-chanOct 3, 2017 10:47 PM
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| Everything could change next chapter in any case, kaneki could make a comeback or get saved at the last minute we don't know. Also the fight will most probably be explained and shown later. People need to chill lol. |
dicecop said: SanOro said: This..This..i dunno man this is just stupid Cutting the fight and using a cheap chock factor..Wow You clearly understood squat the last 200+ chapters then. This was foreshadowed throughout the series, even stated 43 chapters ago lol Idc if it's forshadowed or not..It's still bad, i HATE shit like this but eh who knows i think they'll explain it in the next chapter..I hope |
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| Don't let your wildest assumptions run off your reasons guys. This is just a showcase of the legendary "what if" scenario if Kaneki made a decision to return alone. |
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| We discuss the chapter on its own as of now, i am not making excuses for the author of this manga he is the one who should justify the stuff he pull not some fanbois, i would gladly eat my words if next chapter he prove me wrong The kaneki excuses is just bullshit because : 1- He could easily eat one of those bodies in the forest before going back to check on the base and it doesn't take any time for it, all you need is just limb to recover 2- It's also idiotic of him to think he can handle all the groups fruta will be bringing when he is very sick and weak right now 3-His dialogue and actions doesn't make, he touch his chin which implay he think he can't win the battle, but he then goes and says he will win and save everybody Not counting the AND TO REPEAT MYSELF that was cheap way to create some tension |
| I have a feeling this series will end soon... RIP Touka |
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SakurasouCaboose said: I have a feeling this series will end soon... RIP Touka Nah, Ishida wouldn't dare kill off Kaneki's cumdumpster Touka. |
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SanOro said: dicecop said: You clearly understood squat the last 200+ chapters then. This was foreshadowed throughout the series, even stated 43 chapters ago lol Idc if it's forshadowed or not..It's still bad, i HATE shit like this but eh who knows i think they'll explain it in the next chapter..I hope Saying this was bad is saying that part 1 was bad. I don't think you know what "re" means lmao |
Ishida said: Step 1: Write a successful manga. Step 2: Write the same thing except it's worse this time around. Step 3: ??? I don't want to believe Ishida got lazy or lost his touch, but it sure seems like it. Parallels alone can't carry a manga. |
FragOutFire said: Why am I a Berserk fan? All I ever experience is pain. We are in the eclipse and Miura has sacrificed us |
| my mind is really fucked up right now , this chapter killed my mood . this chapter was a big surprise ,probably one of the biggest since i've started reading anything at all , it's would've been a nice ending ,even i who's kaneki is best charecter would have accepted it if just kaneki didn't lost that fight . i was convinced that kaneki is one of the strongest beings in this manga but now he lost to 2 humans , i mean WTF ishida at least u could've added furuta as well , that way it won't suck that much. anyway i don't think kaneki is dead . that's because the first page sound suspicious . looks like it tell the thoughts of kaneki after this event , last panels describe perfectly what kaneki would've think of after this chapter ""i think"" , also that sewer with blood dripping from it or something , could it be kanou's lab ??  secondly because of what furuta said to that kid " 'take care of Ms nugget """special treatement"""' ' . what do u mean furuta ? what special treatment ???? . at last the "End credit" i'm not sure but could it be that ishida is just trying to give us the hardest week ever , i mean end credit could mean other stuff then just an ending announcement to this manga , he could've wrote that because he thought it would describe the next chapter as much as it would fuck our brains by making us think this is the End . |
| Those who are hated that need to stay in a clique have to make the effort to eliminate the factors that can be used against them. Don’t make mistakes, don’t show your blunders, and don’t let your weaknesses be exposed; these three points are the most important. They’re the same thing, aren’t they? Despite that, showcasing off your perfection as an individual can be used against you as well. That’s why, it’s important to not do anything. If you don’t do anything, nothing will go wrong. Also, don’t get involved with anyone. -HACHIMAN- |
| smh Arima died for this. I really don't know how to feel about this chapter. |
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| Nothing to say, I'm speechless. I can't believe he offscreen'd Kaneki. If he somehow makes an asspull for Kaneki to make a part 3, I highly doubt he'll reuse Kaneki losing his memories. I don't even know where he'd go from here if everyone dies.. Kaneki would be nothing but a fucking psycho. |
fullmetal-ghoul said: You need to understand that this chapter is not a cheap rehash of part 1's ending, nor is it a parallel for the sake of being a parallel. Both part 1 and this have different intended effects on the reader. In part 1, Kaneki's downward spiral was built up and played out beautifully, it was made obvious that it would end in tragedy as a result of Kaneki identifying his flaws too late. By making it clear things would end in tragedy, this really depressing but engaging atmosphere is created which is Ishida's intended effect. However, in :Re and this chapter its completely different, and while yes, shock factor plays a much larger role (and this should not always have negative connotations, it worked brilliantly here imo), its so much more than that. In the past 50 or so chapters of :Re, Ishida has seemingly been building up Kaneki for success, he's no longer suicidal, he wants to live and is taking his role as OEK seriously now. But while its undeniable the effect Ishida want to create is for us to be shocked and feel despair, what's crucial is that the underlying senese and build up of tragedy was still there, we just never noticed because of how Kaneki was developing as a person. It's still great writing. Not once is it shown that Kaneki has moved past his fatal flaws (but yes, he has made an attampt to improve), and identifying said flaws and moving past them are two completely different things. I'm sure all of us have at least once realised we have a negative trait, but have done nothing to rectify it at that moment. In this sense, its more realistic for Kaneki to fall back on his mindset built from his childhood, especially given how weak he is mentally. He has made an effort to move past his flaws, but once he gets desperate he reverts back to how he naturally thinks, which is completely realistic. The most understandable criticism I've seen of this chapter is that Kaneki's development was destroyed, but that's not the case, its more he hasn't developed enough. He hasn't overcome his fatal character flaws, and no that doesn't mean his character in :re was wasted at all. His transition from Haise, to the suicidal Black Reaper, to the OEK seeking motivation and reason to live, to the person he is now was still brilliantly done, and he has improved upon his flaws, but he still has a lot of room to grow and this chapter is the perfect stepping stone for that. I also recommend giving this a read if you haven't already: http://linkspooky.tumblr.com/post/165973792540/the-hardest-lessons-learned Great post, this makes sense. I kinda like how things have turned out, it's actually quite a realistic outcome as opposed to the usual wish fulfilment we get in story's where the hero charges in and saves the day. In reality what happens when you try and play the hero and charge in without thinking critically is you get your ass handed to you. Can imagine kaneki is going to end up in kanous lab for the majority of the next instalment. Which as a poster said above, may be what the that inner monologue page refers to. |
| I like how ended the fight, you dont have to show 3 chapters of fighting to advance in history, look Game of Thrones, in their first seasons they just showed only one fight, and the plot was more interesting than now. |
Hylian said: Nothing to say, I'm speechless. I can't believe he offscreen'd Kaneki. If he somehow makes an asspull for Kaneki to make a part 3, I highly doubt he'll reuse Kaneki losing his memories. I don't even know where he'd go from here if everyone dies.. Kaneki would be nothing but a fucking psycho. Unless a certain someone brings back his sanity Kaneki still doesn't know that Hide is still alive He is the one who save Kaneki in TG, I wouldn't be surprised if he will be the one saving him again in :re |
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KaiserNazrin said: Maledict said: What in the hell...? Did I just see Ken, the Arima killer, while fighting with a full kakuja, get off-panel'd by Suzuya and that one guy? Excuse me? I knew Ishida was horrible with strength consistencies, but this is a whole new level. Or Arima was always the strongest. That never happened. Arima killed himself, he wasn't even trying to kill Kaneki, he could have done it easily. Suzuya is SS and Hanbee is S rate, they are fully prepared and is using freaking Arata, Suzuya is at that state closer to Arima than Kaneki ever was. Meanwhile we got Kaneki,a sick,dying and starving ghoul. Of course he get rekt. Furuta already said that Kaneki lost because he try to do everything himself. He never learned. If he bring Tsukiyama and Nishio, they could at least separate Hanbee from Suzuya making it one on one. All of this is completely false. First of all, Arima was not trying only at the start. Later on, when Ken brought out the kakuja and started trying himself, Arima was potentially at his strongest (because of the SSS-rate quinque) and fighting to kill. He didn't get overpowered by Ken, but he did get outsmarted. Second, Suzuya being the second Arima is quite possibly the emptiest hype in the entire series. He has never demonstrated anything too special, nowhere near what Arima was doing, yet he's somehow considered a second coming of him? As if. This hype literally came from nowhere, Ishida just decided: ''Yeah, I'll tell 'em this, they have to believe it''. Don't know what ''Suzuya is SS'' is supposed to mean, since those are ranks given to ghouls. He has shown absolutely nothing noteworthy enough to even put him in the same sense as the guy who: - Casually beats ghouls with an umbrella - Effortlessly beat Shachi - Effortlessly beat Centipede Ken - Defeated Eto twice, while not even with both Narukami and IXA Third, Hanbe is a nobody, the kind of nobody investigator end-of-TG Ken was taking out effortlessly with just 2 kagune appendages (when he rescued Koma and Irimi). An Arata armor on this nobody means nothing, as mindless Centipede Ken already wrecked a superior investigator with it (Shinohara), and later even defeated a way superior investigator with a better version of it while he was also armed with an S-rated lance quinque (Amon). Oh, and what Eto and Arima envisioned him as: The King, the one to unite ghouls and create a better place for them, the strongest? Nah, screw that, let's just make Suzuya and that one guy beat him. Lmao at Suzuya being closer to Arima than Ken, by the way. Good one. |
MaledictOct 5, 2017 7:39 AM
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| No no no no onon onononnononononno NO NO NO NO NO THISS CAN'T BE HAPPENING YOU PIECE OF SHIT !!!!!!! HE CAN'T DIE !!!!!!! |
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PriestSlayer said: Ishida could literally draw 16 panels of shit and people would still eat it up and praise the deep symbolism hidden within the pages. At least we got some spicy tragedy am I right? Who gives a shit if we've been over this in the first manga. That Eto and Arima have thrown their life's away for the King to do nothing but sit on his ass and let his subjects get slaughtered and starve to death until he decided to do something about it. That Kaneki's character development just got reset to stage 1? Over 200 chapters and the man boiled down to the same mistakes as those in part 1. But at least we have Furuta's ebin reaction faces xDDDD. Fuck me. Never would I have imagined that I would start drawing similarities between TG and Bleach's writing. +++++++++++++++++++ |
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