Kittens-kun said: TheRandom said: Two issues here, you said nothing of value here. My favorites have nothing to do with my claim k-on is trash. In fact, I was only making a point that any idiot can make a grandiose claim lacking any sort of rationale to explain their thought process. But rather than addressing my point of k-on being trash you proceed to deflect. And you didn't even do a good job of deflecting buddy, "oppinion" lol. I could just go on about this but I won't. I'll give you chance, explain what makes k-on so great. Bonus points if you can explain how jojo disqualifies me from sharing my "oppinion". The second issue was implied to be your spelling of opinion if you didn't catch that. This comment is funny because you're bagging on him for not explaining his opinion, yet you also never explained yours. Just saying "it's trash" isn't really a point. Hypocrisy 101. Reinforcing my point that "any idiot can make a grandiose claim lacking any sort of rationale to explain their thought process" I fall under any idiot. |
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| I think his taste in anime is questionable but i won't hate on him for that reason. Yeah he seems a bit up his own ass but so are many people in this community. |
| I hate his content. Okay, on one hand, I sometimes love his content. His by proxy analysis of A-1 through the multi part series on Asterisk War was in my opinion his best work, as he actually took the time to write out a well thought out criticism of the studio with enough examples that showed that he actually did know what he was talking about... Yet at the same time I despise his content at the moment because now a lot of his videos have barely any research behind it. It has purely become a channel that stands due to his ethos as an "expert." The video that drove me over the line was his Evangelion video. He claims that Eva was the sole reason why anime originals became a thing, and why modern anime is the way it is. Yeah, sure, totally. Since you know, the economic collapse of Japan, the deadliest terror attack on Japan at the time and a major earthquake cannot possibly explain the rise of speculative original anime around 1998 and afterwards. What really pissed me off was that he only mentioned the Lost Decade in a passing line as a setting one particular anime is set in. As if society and the world around Anime has no affect outside of being a backdrop. That led me to reevluate a lot of his prior work. The Asterisk War analysis? While it is much more well done than his other videos, Digibro, like a lot of other anitubers, picked and chose examples to support his claims while throwing any counterexamples out the window. Take the Asterisk War and A-1 lazy animation claim, and the comparison to KyoAni. While yes, the amount of amazing character animation that comes out of KyoAni does seem to have A-1 beat, the reason why A-1 seems cheap is because for every good anime they make there is 2-4 other anime that are not. Finally, honestly, if anyone wants information about anime that has good research, why the hell are they going for anitubers? Most of them sell themselves using pure ethos, and Digi is by far the worst. By beating into the viewer's mind that Digi has "high standards" for his content or that his opinion is valid because he watches a lot of anime, he only becomes credible because people keep hearing that he is "credible." In fact, the only reason why he ever is still barely relevant is because he is loud as fuck. In closing, I want to reference something that pretty much sums up how irrelevant he is as a source of information as a YouTuber. On the Anime from Akira to Howl's Moving Castle book club podcast episode on Pause and Select's channel, it is clear that Digi has no other shred of credibility to his thoughts outside of being highly opinionated. For just a taste, he entered the podcast having binge read the book the night before and yet somehow came to the podcast highly opinionated on it, he believes the job of a Japanese culture researcher who focuses on anime is to watch every single damn anime, and when he started talking about the book he pretty much rambled on and on without much point, expertly demonstrating doublethink sometimes. Sure, Napier's book is far from one of the best on anime analysis, but man, it was cringeworthy trying to listen to him attempt to still sound like an authority. |
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Considering you sound like one of the only digi critics that actually does their homework and actually presents precise detailed arguments, if you made a video about him I imagine you'd get an instant following (since trashing digi is always in high demand). Heck, I like digi and I agree with most of your assessment |
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| I am not subscribed to him anymore, I gave him a chance but he is boring (his psycho pass analysis is laughable though) and not very informative or interesting. I think his older videos have better quality and thought put into them https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClURtWDI4MM&index=1&list=PLw6UBKuaMyFCqJHUq56fTWQRt4tcs44bs |
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| @Turtle50UP, I was going to reply to your comment but @Crusader_8 beat me to the punch. I'd basically be reiterating everything they said. Also, I didn't know he was in that one podcast with Pause & Select. I'm going to have to go listen to it now, at least for the laugh. Digibro knows about a lot of things when it comes to anime but his knowledge is more of a who's who than a deep understanding of why or how. In addition, while he knows a lot about individuals and studios he doesn't necessarily understand these creators on any deeper level. I think a lot of this stems from his entire reader-response approach. He falls afoul of the Affective Fallacy constantly and he by-and-large seems to ignore authorial intent (which is strange for someone who is so interested in who does what in anime). For example, despite all of the stuff he's said about Evangelion, he seems utterly ignorant of the impact of tokusatsu on the creation of the show. Hideaki Anno was tremendously influenced by tokusatsu like Ultraman--indeed his first student film was an Ultraman story. Ultimately, I think Digibro spends more time talking about himself by way of talking about the anime than he does talking about the anime. That's why I find myself agreeing with @zal about his older videos being better--he was hungrier and less comfortable a few years back and he focused more on the shows themselves than upon his experience regarding the shows. EDIT: You guys might be interested in WattheWut's two-part takedown of Digibro: Part One and Part Two. Someone elsewhere on the forums said that these videos remind him of Content Cop's takedowns. I did say I don't dislike Digibro but I do think the criticism is deserved and necessary. WattheWut is harsh and strays into ad hominem terrain a bit but considering the circumstances and it being YouTube drama, I won't fault him too much for that. |
FvlminatvsSep 29, 2017 2:33 AM
| I personally really like Digi myself. He is insanely knowledgeable and I respect that he goes with his own opinions rather than the general consensus. That's why I don't like Code Geass. I was also on his side on the Cunchyroll Digibro v Gigguk panel. |
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| Some people seriously hate him because he loves K-ON! ? Wtf? What is that for a dumb reason to dislike someone just because he has his own taste. Overall... I can understand if some people don't like him because his opinions are most of the time different than others but I think he is a good YouTuber. He is always honest about his opinions and what he dislikes or likes about a Anime. |
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--------------------------------------------- @Crusader_8 @Fvlminatvs I think I'm guilty of a similar thing as anitubers, where I use a large enough quantity and a decent quality of words so that I sound like I know things. I'm just obsessed with taking a question or situation and trying to see all the little threads that hold it up as a question or situation. The whole animation counterexample I gave was actually a result of a recent thing I realized thinking back to why I now dislike so many of the anitubers I used to like. Plus, I actually do agree that KyoAni does better character animation, but if he (Digi) actually wanted a more concrete argument, actually demonstrating that by numbers unique frame count differs between the two studios in proportions that aren't explainable by content quantity, or by going through a deeper breakdown of the animation mechanics between the two studios and demonstrating why one is weaker than the other etc etc. But these require a certain level of expertise in those fields, the first with correct statistical analysis and reporting, the second with a strong understanding of the technicals of animation. My point is, Digi has the right idea with a decent amount of his videos, but he just doesn't put in the work to make his arguments solid. I believe in the 1 episode test (although admittedly before he did his series on it) and I believe that A-1 relies too much on cost saving limited animation. I believe that Evangelion was important to the history of anime, and I agree, SAO really sucks. But instead of doing the deep diving into the material like the old school otaku he seems to place on a pedestal, he just uses his feelings as fact because his philosophy when it comes to anime is that feeling is the main factor to the effectiveness of anime. And I respect that. I just disagree that it is a valid method for constructing argument (which is why for MAL ratings I ignore that "enjoyment" category entirely). And here I go again, writing another 3 paragraphs, doing the same exact thing most anitubers do to sound like they know their craft. Only difference is that I don't ask you to give me money or buy into my ads. |
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| Also sidenote, I also like seeing how he has started doing the things he dislikes in anime review in his own videos. The biggest being that now I often find myself annoyedly asking to the ether what Digi's main point is whenever I watch any of his videos. Hey, not my fault he opened my eyes to what it means to write a "good argument". Wow... I am really, REALLY opinionated about him... time to take a chill pill, and then just chill~ |
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Turtle50UP said: Pixel_Vapour said: I personally really like Digi myself. He is insanely knowledgeable and I respect that he goes with his own opinions rather than the general consensus. That's why I don't like Code Geass. I was also on his side on the Cunchyroll Digibro v Gigguk panel. Does anyone see the irony in this? Digi's central message is "like what you like, and defend it yourself." Even with the SAO bashing. Yet you dislike Code Geass because he doesn't like it? That's the other thing I dislike about Digi. His content ends up creating the kind of tribalism in Anime that he seems to decry. Maybe because he doesn't always get that message across clearly, or maybe because having such tribalism actually helps him because people like us start talking about him and inadvertently advertise him. I don't know, and frankly I don't care anymore. I think you misunderstood @Pixel_Vapour , he didn't mean he disliked Code Geass because Digi did. He meant he disliked Code Geass for his own reasons, regardless of the general consensus. He meant "similar to Digi" as in his attitude to the general consensus, not his opinion on Code Geass. As for tribalism, humans are by nature tribal. Someone who is well-known stating an opinion on an anime is going to polarise the opinion on that anime. It's stupid because sometimes people form up factions based on false premises, just like how the "anime community" is a bunch of people who enjoy a very diverse medium and likely have nothing in common with each other. Yet their delusions to constantly associate themselves as a large group, partly as a means of feeling secure in numbers given how niche anime is, is precisely why the international anime market is an incoherent mob with little or no influence on anime. |
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BurningSpirit said: Turtle50UP said: Does anyone see the irony in this? Digi's central message is "like what you like, and defend it yourself." Even with the SAO bashing. Yet you dislike Code Geass because he doesn't like it? That's the other thing I dislike about Digi. His content ends up creating the kind of tribalism in Anime that he seems to decry. Maybe because he doesn't always get that message across clearly, or maybe because having such tribalism actually helps him because people like us start talking about him and inadvertently advertise him. I don't know, and frankly I don't care anymore. I think you misunderstood @Pixel_Vapour , he didn't mean he disliked Code Geass because Digi did. He meant he disliked Code Geass for his own reasons, regardless of the general consensus. He meant "similar to Digi" as in his attitude to the general consensus, not his opinion on Code Geass. As for tribalism, humans are by nature tribal. Someone who is well-known stating an opinion on an anime is going to polarise the opinion on that anime. It's stupid because sometimes people form up factions based on false premises, just like how the "anime community" is a bunch of people who enjoy a very diverse medium and likely have nothing in common with each other. Yet their delusions to constantly associate themselves as a large group, partly as a means of feeling secure in numbers given how niche anime is, is precisely why the international anime market is an incoherent mob with little or no influence on anime. Ah. Oops... Yeah, I probably should mention I'm operating on 3 hours of sleep... Gets hard to understand the written word. Will edit it to reflect that then. I agree to the tribalism thing, although I do not agree that the international market has no influence on anime. It does, from the similar patterns of studio movement towards airports like the tech industry, to the fact that China as a consumer is starting to become important to the anime market, to the fact that US companies are starting to get their hands in the pot. Although I guess those are more consequences of the industry, and less because of the opinions and thoughts of the community itself. I would have to do a study comparing Japanese community to international community for anime and the resulting potential effects on the market... But I'm a Physics major, not business, so not my field I guess :P Free research topic for anyone interested or in need of a research topic though. |
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Turtle50UP said: That's the other thing I dislike about Digi. His content ends up creating the kind of tribalism in Anime that he seems to decry. You're not the first to point this out, so you are in good company on that. To make matters worse, loads and loads of people watch stuff online and come away thinking they've been "informed" when in reality no such thing has occurred. The community is not just tribal but incredibly cannibalistic. I see people who think they're smart eating one-another all over the place here. Perhaps it is a generational thing? Or maybe this is what happens when a fandom gets to be a certain size? Or maybe that's just what the internet is all about nowadays? Plus, I actually do agree that KyoAni does better character animation, but if he (Digi) actually wanted a more concrete argument, actually demonstrating that by numbers unique frame count differs between the two studios in proportions that aren't explainable by content quantity, or by going through a deeper breakdown of the animation mechanics between the two studios and demonstrating why one is weaker than the other etc etc. But these require a certain level of expertise in those fields, the first with correct statistical analysis and reporting, the second with a strong understanding of the technicals of animation. What you are asking for here is that Digi actually support his arguments with hard evidence. That is entirely antithetical to the entire "short attention span" phenomenon and indeed is something he himself doesn't get. This is why he complains about people who won't get to the point in their videos--it completely escapes him that you actually have to prove something. My point is, Digi has the right idea with a decent amount of his videos, but he just doesn't put in the work to make his arguments solid. I should add that this is considered boring. People don't have the patience to read walls of text and "tl;dr" is an internet mantra. Nobody wants a solid argument, they just want to either be told what to think by whomever they consider "trustworthy" or they want to listen to somebody who already agrees with them. And here I go again, writing another 3 paragraphs, doing the same exact thing most anitubers do to sound like they know their craft. Only difference is that I don't ask you to give me money or buy into my ads. Suck it up, buttercup. There are some among this wretched hive of scum and villainy who actually don't mind someone fleshing out their viewpoint and properly defending their arguments. Don't get self-conscious about it. The shitposters and trolls will never 1) care about your posts or 2) understand anything you're talking about anyway so just ignore them and talk to the people who actually want a discussion. |
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Going to go through this quickly since I have class in about an hour. Although also planning to be watching anime during the class because man... Intro prob/stats class is incredibly boring if you already have taken it in the context of Phys. Anyways... I think the divisiveness in fandoms is less to do with size or age etc but more to do with the unfortunate yet innate desire to be in the right about the things in your life. Having any small correction can steamroll into all out arguments (part of the reason why I left the RWBY fandom is because arguments stemmed from petty things such as if a creature was a wyvern or a dragon, or if a song confirmed or denied a ship. Although... I was one who liked to fan the flames a bit, so I'm not entirely innocent :3). Part of maturation when it comes to conflict resolution is to understand that argument or fact are not personal attacks, but rather just statements which varying levels of credibility, and that hypocrisy is not necessarily a bad thing. - Oh yeah, I guess I never realized that. Although I feel that is emphasized more in his recent content, given that it is post-rant content. He did try to do some homework with the Asterisk War series and the Akiyuki Shinbo/Dig at Canipa series. But afterwards, man... the quality took quite a dive. - Yeah, I actually understand that side of things. But I do believe it is possible to edutain in a video. I mean, thats part of the work required to make an argument, to make both the argument and the supporting facts interesting. - I guess my point with that ending is less about trolls etc but more an example of how easy it is to fall into the same style of argument construction as Digibro, as an attempt to explain why his content so often ends up being the way it is. Which is understandable, considering how argument construction is not a course all people take at some point in their lives. |
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Turtle50UP said: I agree to the tribalism thing, although I do not agree that the international market has no influence on anime. It does, from the similar patterns of studio movement towards airports like the tech industry, to the fact that China as a consumer is starting to become important to the anime market, to the fact that US companies are starting to get their hands in the pot. Although I guess those are more consequences of the industry, and less because of the opinions and thoughts of the community itself. I would have to do a study comparing Japanese community to international community for anime and the resulting potential effects on the market... But I'm a Physics major, not business, so not my field I guess :P Free research topic for anyone interested or in need of a research topic though. Well, firstly I don't think the US companies stepping in is a sign of consumer influence, it's speculative investment on their part to tap on the US market. In fact it's probably a sign of Japanese incompetence at properly distributing their product to the US, which while isn't our fault still diminishes the influence of the international market. We can only see how the US companies' involvement will turn out in the future. I actually agree that China and South East Asia will be a really huge consumer influence on the anime industry in the near future. However I do like to mention that I'm not too sure if Western audiences really want that, given they constantly refer to viewers outside Japan as "the western market", conveniently leaving out huge consumer bases in Philippines and more recently China. I'm not too sure the western-styled classics so revered on MAL will have any hope of a future, given the larger and larger incoherent mob of anime fans just lapping up whatever is mainstream. ^Note that I'm actually from Asia myself, Singapore specifically. I'm not too familiar with business myself, intending to pursue engineering in the future. But my lack of faith in the international market having any influence is the fact that series with absolutely no recognition outside of Japan (and regarded as fanservice laden trash) are a viable option for studios to earn money, with some of them even getting sequels. Another example is how a live action anime adaptation that is universally detested by the "anime community" is a viable option for Hollywood to earn money while at the same time showing an absolute disregard for proper adaptation. |
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gopivot said: You know even Digi himself didn't disliked Code Geass that much (he gave it a 7-8 lol) https://youtu.be/fuaAI-ELnUM?t=13m6s and i'm surprise that they ain't more people who defence digi but i guess it not that weird since digi himself and the fanbase don't really care about MAL community Indeed. I watched that video the day after it came out. I dislike CG by my own terms. Too many plot contrivances and the plot is simply ridiculous at points. |
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BurningSpirit said: Well, firstly I don't think the US companies stepping in is a sign of consumer influence, it's speculative investment on their part to tap on the US market. In fact it's probably a sign of Japanese incompetence at properly distributing their product to the US, which while isn't our fault still diminishes the influence of the international market. We can only see how that'll turn out some time into the future. I'm definitely in agreement with you on this, BurningSpirit. I think the U.S. suppliers are also trying to actively get involved because they stand to gain, like Netflix and Crunchyroll helping fund certain projects--if the projects do well, it helps not only retain customers but also potentially increase the size of their subscription base. As for the Japanese, their negligence toward the American market and other overseas markets has reaped some ugly dividends. Japan has only really become aware that their animation is a more visible export than cars or electronics (note I said VISIBLE) and they're more well-known for animation (and even tentacles) than they are known for samurai and tea ceremonies. The Japanese telecom companies and other interested backers (like toy companies) never considered their products would work in foreign markets, leaving everything up to import firms and licensing companies. Carl Macek did more to bring anime to the West than the Japanese themselves ever did. Now, the foreign-based licensing model is firmly entrenched in Western distribution. Anime is imported by the West rather than exported by Japan and that represents a missed opportunity in both the economic dimension but perhaps more importantly in the political realm as an expression of soft power. The Soviet Union wasn't just brought down by the U.S. outproducing them in the Arms Race but because their citizens were pissed off that we had rock n' roll and Levis jeans when they had to stand in line for bread. With the advent of glasnost and perestroika, Western musicians could tour the Soviet Union to massive crowds hungry for their music. Japan could have been utilizing their cultural products in a similar way to build interest and sympathy in foreign nations. I actually agree that China and South East Asia will be a really huge consumer influence on the anime industry in the near future. However I do like to mention that I'm not too sure if Western audiences really want that, given they constantly refer to viewers outside Japan as the western market, conveniently leaving out huge consumer bases in Philippines and more recently China. I'm not too sure the western-styled classics so revered on MAL will have any hope of a future, given the larger and larger incoherent mob of anime fans just lapping up whatever is mainstream. For the sake of clarity, where is this larger and larger incoherent mob? China stands as a direct threat to Japan's monopoly on anime. They've adopted the aesthetic and their narrative traditions have more in common with Japan than the West--indeed, much of Japanese narrative tradition can be traced back to China in the first place. South Korea has easily dominated the drama market overseas. Their cinema is probably overshadowing Japanese live-action cinema as well. Unlike Japan, the RoK's government is actively supporting their domestic products for export and the telecom and media industry has been trying to find ways to increase overseas interest to keep the hallyu going. Now that you have directors like Yeon Sang-ho helming Korean animated films that pack as much of a punch as Park Chan-wook's Oldboy or Kim Jee-woon's Angmareul Boatda, it is quite possible that Japan's animation industry could eventually have some very, very serious competition from a country that is hungry for international recognition. But my lack of faith in the international market having any influence is the fact that series with absolutely no recognition outside of Japan (and regarded as fanservice laden trash) are a viable option for studios to earn money, with some of them even getting sequels. Frankly, most of the overseas community seems to hop on the hype train and inflate the value of what would otherwise be mediocre shows. I mean, I admit that I haven't seen it but seriously, Kobayashi-san Chi no Maid Dragon has a higher ranking than Serial Experiments Lain. Forgive me for being skeptical about Maid Dragon but I just don't see it being better than Lain. That's like saying Independence Day is better than 2001: A Space Odyssey. It isn't just the Japanese community but the overseas viewership as well. If MAL and YouTube are any gauge, then the international viewership are lapping up any vapid cash-grab adaptation they can get their hands on. I think the reason the Japanese can ignore the West as a market, at least, is because it figures that Westerners will just consume whatever they make. The Japanese also have a very turtle-ish mentality. Whenever their society feels threatened, even remotely, foreign ideas and influences are diminished and devalued. Some 1970s and lots of 1980s anime showed a huge amount of influence from Western television and film. Blade Runner, for example, inspired Bubblegum Crisis, A.D. Police, and Oshii's take on Ghost in the Shell. American action movies about detectives and crime helped inspire Gunsmith Cats and Eight Man After. Now, I only see foreign influence in Boku no Hero Academia and One Punch Man. That's about it. Everything else is self-referential--it all draws upon gimmicks, tropes, and elevator-pitch ideas that have been floating around in Japanese media for decades. Another example is how a live action anime adaptation that is universally detested by the "anime community" is a viable option for Hollywood to earn money while at the same time showing an absolute disregard for proper adaptation. Frankly, those shows aren't made for the "anime community" at all. They're made for mainstream audiences and Hollywood is hoping that the combination of a recognizable name with a totally formulaic plot will result in profits. Don't ask me why they haven't learned that this doesn't work, I'd love to know, myself. Hollywood also thinks that its audience is phenomenally stupid. While they're right about the audience being stupid--we've been growing more and more tolerant of idiotic plots and formulaic narratives for decades--we're not phenomenally stupid. 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Clanky72 said: Kuma said: who the fuck is digibro an why should i care? Why you should care about Digibro? Because you made a post in a forumthread about him! If you really didn't care you would have just read the title of the thread and ignored it from the very start. But somehow you still made a post in here although you don't care. Your idea about "not careing" is twisted as hell. I think what your original idea was with this post is to say how unimportant this whole thread is to you. You're in a forum alright. Bring your ideas out the right way and explain them properly! As you probably noticed there are people who care about how bad or good Digibro is. If you wnat them to think more in your way you need a way bigger explanation than a one-liner argument. i demand for explanation, not personal attack... is this how his and his fanbasses act? then i shouldn't even bother... |
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Kuma said: the guy responsible for the top 100 anime of all time threads some time ago who the fuck is digibro an why should i care? |
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romagia said: Kuma said: the guy responsible for the top 100 anime of all time threads some time ago who the fuck is digibro an why should i care? oh shit... time to bakc to my cave and reading manga then... |
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harpseal2 said: obviously no, you aren't the only one. digibro is beyond irredeemable. his taste is truly shit-tier, and he has absolutely no charisma or charm that makes me want to watch his atrocious videos. he has no sense of presentation, which is clear from looking at an image of him in real life, as he is unkempt and disgusting to look at. he used to be an MLP youtuber under the name of digibrony, but his channel was shut down. unsurprisingly, even bronies were glad that this shit stain of humanity was removed from the site. moreso, he is a legitimately shitty person who constantly tries to start shit with other anime youtubers (notably thatanimesnob and i think gigguk (both are shitty youtubers but far better than digibro anyway)) because no-one cares about his bad videos so he has to drum up drama for youtube neetbux. anyone here who likes his videos should seek help. honestly, i cannot see what you see in this terrible human. his reviews arent even good, and are basic analyses that a monkey could write. Nice bait man. You almost had me there. |
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harpseal2 said: you cant call facts you dont like bait, buddy. even if everything else i've said is opinion, the fact that he is an asshole who tries to start shit with other youtubers is a known fact. go look up digibro drama, he pulled some shit a few months ago and everyone call him out for it. Nope, literally everything you said is an opinion. |
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Did you actually watch the video? He has good points. I should know, I'm subscribed to like half the people he mentions. I'm sure you'd still complain even if he talked as nicely as possible. |
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SupremeEdgelord said: if i agree with digibro's analysis of * War, does that mean I'm performing oral sex? Does it mean I only agreed because of who he is, or is it possible he simply makes convincing and *verifiable* arguments?The only thing that i hate about anime reviewers/youtubers are the fanboys that suck their d*cks and take their opinion as absolute. |
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Fvlminatvs said: I'm definitely in agreement with you on this, BurningSpirit. I think the U.S. suppliers are also trying to actively get involved because they stand to gain, like Netflix and Crunchyroll helping fund certain projects--if the projects do well, it helps not only retain customers but also potentially increase the size of their subscription base. As for the Japanese, their negligence toward the American market and other overseas markets has reaped some ugly dividends. Japan has only really become aware that their animation is a more visible export than cars or electronics (note I said VISIBLE) and they're more well-known for animation (and even tentacles) than they are known for samurai and tea ceremonies. The Japanese telecom companies and other interested backers (like toy companies) never considered their products would work in foreign markets, leaving everything up to import firms and licensing companies. Carl Macek did more to bring anime to the West than the Japanese themselves ever did. Now, the foreign-based licensing model is firmly entrenched in Western distribution. Anime is imported by the West rather than exported by Japan and that represents a missed opportunity in both the economic dimension but perhaps more importantly in the political realm as an expression of soft power. The Soviet Union wasn't just brought down by the U.S. outproducing them in the Arms Race but because their citizens were pissed off that we had rock n' roll and Levis jeans when they had to stand in line for bread. With the advent of glasnost and perestroika, Western musicians could tour the Soviet Union to massive crowds hungry for their music. Japan could have been utilizing their cultural products in a similar way to build interest and sympathy in foreign nations. Well it's too bad. Japan leaving the spread of their animation to western companies is their loss. Fvlminatvs said: For the sake of clarity, where is this larger and larger incoherent mob? I think you misunderstand. I didn't mean the incoherent mob comes from 1 country or region in particular. What I meant was a larger and larger crowd of people who lack their own opinions, often picking up show based on hype and whatever is marketed best. You seem to express this point yourself, like here Fvlminatvs said: It isn't just the Japanese community but the overseas viewership as well. If MAL and YouTube are any gauge, then the international viewership are lapping up any vapid cash-grab adaptation they can get their hands on. I think the reason the Japanese can ignore the West as a market, at least, is because it figures that Westerners will just consume whatever they make. Frankly, most of the overseas community seems to hop on the hype train and inflate the value of what would otherwise be mediocre shows. I mean, I admit that I haven't seen it but seriously, Kobayashi-san Chi no Maid Dragon has a higher ranking than Serial Experiments Lain. Forgive me for being skeptical about Maid Dragon but I just don't see it being better than Lain. That's like saying Independence Day is better than 2001: A Space Odyssey. Fvlminatvs said: China stands as a direct threat to Japan's monopoly on anime. They've adopted the aesthetic and their narrative traditions have more in common with Japan than the West--indeed, much of Japanese narrative tradition can be traced back to China in the first place. South Korea has easily dominated the drama market overseas. Their cinema is probably overshadowing Japanese live-action cinema as well. Unlike Japan, the RoK's government is actively supporting their domestic products for export and the telecom and media industry has been trying to find ways to increase overseas interest to keep the hallyu going. Now that you have directors like Yeon Sang-ho helming Korean animated films that pack as much of a punch as Park Chan-wook's Oldboy or Kim Jee-woon's Angmareul Boatda, it is quite possible that Japan's animation industry could eventually have some very, very serious competition from a country that is hungry for international recognition. Ah yes, South Korea. If Japan had anywhere near the support RoK gives to its dramas, we wouldn't be stuck with Crunchyroll (region locked across the world). If South Korea ever started pumping out animations on a scale like Japan does, I can certainly see new animation companies or animation companies moving to South Korea on a large scale. As for China, no. I believe they've got heavy restrictions about what can be included into their animations. While I love my mindless fun anime, I do need some actual content once in a while, maybe a little delve into sensitive topics, but I can't see China ever going to produce stuff like that. Plus their market is so huge. Unless China is going to magically start pumping out lots and lots of animated series, including China into the equation is going to generally bring in more consumers for anime rather than take away. Fvlminatvs said: The Japanese also have a very turtle-ish mentality. Whenever their society feels threatened, even remotely, foreign ideas and influences are diminished and devalued. Some 1970s and lots of 1980s anime showed a huge amount of influence from Western television and film. Blade Runner, for example, inspired Bubblegum Crisis, A.D. Police, and Oshii's take on Ghost in the Shell. American action movies about detectives and crime helped inspire Gunsmith Cats and Eight Man After. Now, I only see foreign influence in Boku no Hero Academia and One Punch Man. That's about it. Everything else is self-referential--it all draws upon gimmicks, tropes, and elevator-pitch ideas that have been floating around in Japanese media for decades. I'm not surprised, first thing when they opened up to foreigners they got economically scammed till they went broke, sanctioned/provoked into war, invaded and nuked.... twice. Just kidding, they actually love these stuff. Disney is bigger than anime in Japan. They couldn't compete so they turned to building a smaller but more hardcore fanbase, the otaku fanbase. Fvlminatvs said: Frankly, those shows aren't made for the "anime community" at all. They're made for mainstream audiences and Hollywood is hoping that the combination of a recognizable name with a totally formulaic plot will result in profits. Don't ask me why they haven't learned that this doesn't work, I'd love to know, myself. Hollywood also thinks that its audience is phenomenally stupid. While they're right about the audience being stupid--we've been growing more and more tolerant of idiotic plots and formulaic narratives for decades--we're not phenomenally stupid. I think that's one of the reasons why this summer was the worst Hollywood has experienced since 2006. Don't lie to yourself. The people who watch those Hollywood live action movies because it's based on their favourite manga or anime is not negligible. The only people even talking about it are from the "anime community". If the "anime community" truly as a while boycotted these films, they'd stop doing it immediately. |
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| I don't like him because he is arrogant and I know it's his own opinion so I'm not gonna see this against him but ho can he find ashita no joe boring? |
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| He's pompous, self righteous and hypocritical. But more often then not he's right. He's sure as hell ahead of most anime youtubers if that's what your asking. |
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| @harpseal2 How can you claim he has shit taste, when he likes pretty much all the things you have in your favorites (Eva, Gundam, JoJo, Monogatari)? Also he didn't start this whole beef with TAS. Snob was harassing him for like 2 years or something. |
Nyah_Chan said: Darek said: I mean, he is kinda stupid but not as dumb as you and your bad attempts at shitposts. Oh damn... Someone call the police... Shots have been fired Konakana said: K-on isn't just average, it actually sucks. Punpun3 said: Hey hey hey HEY. Don't talk shit about the greatest slice of life to ever exist Let's start the flame wars. I never watched enough of his vids to have an opinion, but i didn't like the few i watched. Not my style, i guess. |
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BlancaXLobo said: Konakana said: K-on isn't just average, it actually sucks. Punpun3 said: Hey hey hey HEY. Don't talk shit about the greatest slice of life to ever exist Let's start the flame wars. I never watched enough of his vids to have an opinion, but i didn't like the few i watched. Not my style, i guess. I don't even know who he is... I don't even know why I'm here |
He's a famous YouTuber who makes anime-themed videos, which are centered in critical analysis. He has many followers, but just like any other popular channel, many detractors too. He bashed Sword Art Online and prasises K-On, two shows i haven't watched. |
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| I like him. Our tastes aren't hugely similar and he can be really arrogant (which he would readily admit) but he's definitely one of the best anime YTers out there, especially when it comes to analysis. |
| I have watched a few videos and I like the guy in the sense that he is articulate and can convince you to at least consider his viewpoint; I don't mind his YouTube drama or the allegations about elitism. But to be honest I am kind of detached from the YouTube community he is a representative of because I see the same shows and concepts being talked constantly and too much, and I don't get the impression that I can follow these channels, Digi included, to expand my knowledge or get newer recommendations. And then there are specifics. The last video I watched of Digibro was him spotting a sort of progressive route among high school SOLs, which in theory was really nice and seemed on point, but in practice and with the shows he picked looked far-fetched to me. Specifically I find it hard to buy the narrative that Lucky Star has bigger focus on the emotional moments than its predecessors when the drama is actually very sparse in the show and in its structure it is as much of or more of a situational gag comedy than any else. But then again this idea is shoehorned to fit the narrative that KyoAni is all about subtle character exposition and present the show like it's some sort of prelude to K-On!, from which it's substantially different in terms of dynamics and focus. And speaking of K-On! I like that there is focus on its merits, but I'm under the impression that there has been too much. It's exhausting at this point, and sort of detrimental to the wide variety of slice of life in anime. |
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