Does the hate for this series revolve around OreImo?

asaryo420 said:

Them you should not be here. As the illustration clearly indicates what kind of anime this is.

Payotz said:
Tried to give this a chance because it might give insight to "light novel" industry. I expected fanservice to be like how it is in Oreimo. That it can give commentary to the light novel thing with how Oreimo S1 gave insight to the otaku culture.

Now, I just dropped it. The light novel thing is around 10 of the content.The other 90% is the MC imagining banging his sister while saying "no incest", the sister's "um, err, whimper, uhh, nii-san", nude shots, and animated little girls screaming about dicks, lewd and porn. I mean sure, a lot of kids know about sex and stuff, but wtf make the characters worthy of respect. Screaming "I love dicks" in front of a stranger isn't a normal icebreaker. The only respectful character I see is the editor. Everyone else's brain is like 95% porn, and 5% breathing.

The first episode was decent (aside from the incest layer). It showed the whole artist streaming thing, and the publishing side. It was a good intro the whole accident is a legitimate thing. Though after that, it all went to shit.

After that, I see a shitload of incest:


It's actually hilarious that Erosen has even less of a story than Eroge H despite Eroge H being a hentai. That's quite an achievement Tsukasa-sensei!

Though there's no doubt that this will sell like pancakes in JP, like how Call of Duty sells like pancakes every Christmas Season. Good for you Tsuaka-sensei! You're doing your part!

LayedBack said:


I mean, it sure seems like 90% of people on the planet start becoming interested in sexuality somewhere between 11-13, naturally... and I can remember a real life circumstance where I was around that age and approached by a girl who said something very similar to that. And it wasn't particularly unusual.

Human beings tend to love sex, so why freak out about it? I tend to think the majority of damage comes from us telling people how fucked up they should be over having sex 'too soon'. Because I don't think there are many pedos out there to begin with, but a ton of psychologically screwed up prudes who force their ideas onto kids. Mostly in actuality its just people sticking to their age groups.

And same goes for the 'victim culture'. Something bad happens and all the sudden you have to be a victim for life and you have to feel a certain way and go to a full-of-shit therapist and relive it 1000 times etc. etc.

Xenoslash said:

No, it's definitely the age difference. The average viewer age of this show is around 40 (according to a Japanese poll). Now, how do you feel about an age 40 man enjoying the sexuality of 12-year-olds? Hmmm. Besides, Sagiri is pre-pubescent, making it literally pedophilia.

Xenoslash said:

No, it's definitely the age difference. The average viewer age of this show is around 40 (according to a Japanese poll). Now, how do you feel about an age 40 man enjoying the sexuality of 12-year-olds? Hmmm. Besides, Sagiri is pre-pubescent, making it literally pedophilia.

Reikuo said:

Japan is one of if not the safest nation on the entire planet to be a 12 year old girl and there is no nudity in this so its not even illegal anywhere. People like you, thankfully, are why there are no genuine discussions over how this kind of content is seen and dealt with because you just instantly shout "pedophilia!!" which is nothing more then an insult to actual child victims more so then any army of 40 year old dudes jerking off to anime.

Xenoslash said:
"Japan is one of if not the safest nation on the entire planet to be a 12 year old girl and there is no nudity in this so its not even illegal anywhere." Japan is not fucking safe, it's a terrible place to be as a young girl. JK culture lays rampant, and it's fucking disgusting. Do you have sources? Of course, it's not illegal, but that's not what I'm arguing. Please actually read my statement. Besides, how am I insulting child victims? All I said was that there are a lot of pedophiles that watch this show.

Jak said:
Then you are sheltered and close minded as shit because now a days, most 12 year old kids talk like that. Also it was a fucking joke.

And it's not incest because they are step siblings.

Reikuo said:

You should feel incredibly ashamed of yourself.

Xenoslash said:

XDDDDDDD Classic libtard argument. Moral highground = I am right. Give me an actual fucking argument, instead of spouting irrelevant crap.

Reikuo said:

Can you give me the source on the number of pedophiles that watch the show? Stick your source up your ass and go look up Japanese crime statistics. What I said can actually be verified by the first page of Google. Either way no idea how you got anything liberal out of what I said, I was defending the show and plan to buy all 7 blu-ray volumes to stick it to the haters since the show is so controversial. You should be ashamed of your ignorance, and im sure you are.

Xenoslash said:
http://www.anime-now.com/entry/2017/05/15/230003, average age demographic for this show is around ~40. Don't really know what adults near 40 would watch this show other than the lolibait, but whatever. I said nothing about Japanese crime statstics and talked about the JK culture of Japan, which takes advantage of young girls and forces them into the shady buisness. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JK_business. Of course, it's not in the crime statistic because most cases remain unreported. And what you do is none of my business lol. I could hardly care less.

Besides, you want proof of pedophiles? Right here: https://www.reddit.com/r/anime/comments/6b87na/why_do_people_like_eromanga_sensei/. You read the comments, and you get ones like "12 years old? That is precisely why the fanservice is enjoyable". I don't understand how that is not pedophilic.

Extect said:
I haven't seen either of the shows but I have seen


And she's 12... throw in incest as well and I'll pass

Extect said:
I haven't seen either of the shows but I have seen


And she's 12... throw in incest as well and I'll pass

PzKpfw_VI_Tiger said:
Imo this is better than Oreimo and the sister is not a bitch in this one. Hopefully the author won't fuck up the ending in this one.

Reikuo said:

A few things have really surprised me about this series. The biggest being the reception this show has gotten. With A-1 being a decent studio, advertised as the spiritual successor to Oreimo, and being a regular TV anime distribution model I was to surprised to see how for lack of a better term "moe trash" this series actually is.

What may be more surprising is Oreimo fan reception to the series. If this was just a random new anime then I dont think it really would matter if it was just a bad fan service anime with a shitty story. However, this was by all accounts the spiritual successor to Oreimo which has a very passionate community. Oreimo is still talked about a lot to this day, and is pretty powerful. Unfortunately storywise, Eromanga Sensei cant even touch it. Just by the 6 episodes out now, the damage is beyond repair.(Though Oreimos last couple of episodes are equally as bad IMO)yet honestly reception to this series is quite good. I was shocked how quickly interesting topics, debates, and theories in threads about Oreimo could just be exchanged by the fanbase for "Sagiri was sooo cute last episode ~"

I find the show cute, and watchable, but most certainly not very memorable. I have been watching it weekly, so I will binge it one weekend when its all out to see if im just missing something but with the way the show is written I really dont feel it has any rewatch value whatsoever. It wont have the lasting impact Oreimo had at all and that is too bad.

I have adapted quickly, Oreimo comparisons are a waste of time. Though it dont look it, this show is basically in a different genre. It is a ecchi fan service show that goes for what slap stick it can while trying to string together a plot of some sort. I do love the controversy though, and the show just keeps pushing this further and further with each episode which is good considering its all it has going for it.

I think Eromanga Sensei got lucky coming out this season. There was not a show quite like it last season nor this one, and its a perfect compliment to Attack on Titan which is stopping the "Anime is dying just look at Eromanga Sensei!!" crowd from being too crazy since there is such a popular, well liked, and gorgeously animated show running this season.

Payotz said:


I think Eromanga Sensei got lucky coming out this season. There was not a show quite like it last season nor this one, and its a perfect compliment to Attack on Titan which is stopping the "Anime is dying just look at Eromanga Sensei!!" crowd from being too crazy since there is such a popular, well liked, and gorgeously animated show running this season.

Reikuo said:

I think Eromanga Sensei got lucky coming out this season. There was not a show quite like it last season nor this one, and its a perfect compliment to Attack on Titan which is stopping the "Anime is dying just look at Eromanga Sensei!!" crowd from being too crazy since there is such a popular, well liked, and gorgeously animated show ruining this season.

notyour-waifu said:


Agreed!!! I couldn't stand her

RandomBearAnime said:
No, I actually liked Oreimo a lot. I mean they copped out with the ending, but it actually was still moving and in many ways truer to life than many anime. He knew he couldn't be with anyone but her, but they also knew they couldn't be together in any real way.

Eromanga sensei is just bad overall, in itself.

DenpaNyanNyan said:
I loved OreImo (apart from the ending) and now I love Eromanga Sensei. And no, I'm not into incest... baka!

The main things that make me carry on watching these kind of series is the cute characters and the humour used. Many people don't understand the type of humour used, especially those who haven't watched a lot of anime yet (just look at who is reviewing these series). They are not used to it. And cuteness is another thing that isn't for everyone. Both of these things can vary a lot with every person. To some, story matters more than character and probably don't give a damn about the cute side of things. That's fair enough. But these series tend to have an emphasis on the cuteness, so they are clearly may not be to your liking. Just like how I don't always like oppai on screen 90% of the time because it gets annoying, even though I like oppai and there's nothing wrong with some here and there :P

People give these series low ratings like 1 and moan about the story, they are not supposed to have some in-depth epic stories IMO. It's just the way they are, and you either love them or hate them. Think of them as slice of life but different, a somewhat more detailed version of that in some sense. The story is not a main point of these series, learn that. What can you expect from the life of someone who writes stories and creates manga? Would their lives be as epic as you expect these animes to be? This won't be the case if they don't do much else in life. Have you thought about us otaku? Otaku lives exist primarily inside the home, with the odd ocasion or two where they enter the outside world.

Another thing that many anime fans, especially noobs don't understand is the way of doujinshi. While OreImo focuses more on this, both of these series are based around people with interests in some form of eromanga and even create their own. Why else would 'eromanga' be in the title? As someone who is quite familiar with doujinshi, I think this is part of what enables me to understand these types of anime, what they are about and the humour behind them. And yes, of course there may be people who like doujin that don't like these series, but I think they are more likely to understand their appeal. Obviously, there will be those who still can't grasp their greatness.

If the main thing putting you off these series is the whle incest thing, you shouldn't even be worried and you will not be a siscon just for watching them, unless you take a liking to the whole incest thing. It's not like they do anything together with the intention of doing so (as far as we can see) and the most you'll see is probably a confession and some lewd scenarios that were completely accidental. It's not like you're about to watch some hentai. Damn, they are not even labelled as ecchi.

...hmph.

EpicDiabetic said:
I haven't seen oreimo, I'm just not really into the incest.

DenpaNyanNyan said:
I loved OreImo (apart from the ending) and now I love Eromanga Sensei. And no, I'm not into incest... baka!

The main things that make me carry on watching these kind of series is the cute characters and the humour used. Many people don't understand the type of humour used, especially those who haven't watched a lot of anime yet (just look at who is reviewing these series). They are not used to it. And cuteness is another thing that isn't for everyone. Both of these things can vary a lot with every person. To some, story matters more than character and probably don't give a damn about the cute side of things. That's fair enough. But these series tend to have an emphasis on the cuteness, so they are clearly may not be to your liking. Just like how I don't always like oppai on screen 90% of the time because it gets annoying, even though I like oppai and there's nothing wrong with some here and there :P

People give these series low ratings like 1 and moan about the story, they are not supposed to have some in-depth epic stories IMO. It's just the way they are, and you either love them or hate them. Think of them as slice of life but different, a somewhat more detailed version of that in some sense. The story is not a main point of these series, learn that. What can you expect from the life of someone who writes stories and creates manga? Would their lives be as epic as you expect these animes to be? This won't be the case if they don't do much else in life. Have you thought about us otaku? Otaku lives exist primarily inside the home, with the odd ocasion or two where they enter the outside world.

Another thing that many anime fans, especially noobs don't understand is the way of doujinshi. While OreImo focuses more on this, both of these series are based around people with interests in some form of eromanga and even create their own. Why else would 'eromanga' be in the title? As someone who is quite familiar with doujinshi, I think this is part of what enables me to understand these types of anime, what they are about and the humour behind them. And yes, of course there may be people who like doujin that don't like these series, but I think they are more likely to understand their appeal. Obviously, there will be those who still can't grasp their greatness.

If the main thing putting you off these series is the whle incest thing, you shouldn't even be worried and you will not be a siscon just for watching them, unless you take a liking to the whole incest thing. It's not like they do anything together with the intention of doing so (as far as we can see) and the most you'll see is probably a confession and some lewd scenarios that were completely accidental. It's not like you're about to watch some hentai. Damn, they are not even labelled as ecchi.

...hmph.

Illyricus said:
I haven't seen that much people hating Eromanga, nor I feel the series is having the same impact as Oreimo in the anime/manga community, but, as far as I remember, Oreimo was hated due three reasons:

1) Because people couldn't handle the incest (not in vain, anytime incest is bring out in MAL, a flamestorm tends to happen).
2) Because, at the end, 3) Related with the point above,

This time the author has played safe and has made Sagiri and Masamune non-related siblings, but if the series ends with them together , I'm sure people will still get butthurt due waifu wars, just like it's predecessor. I won't be surprised either if people gets angry for the incest, even if they are not blood-related, since incest in the West is such an strong taboo.

Freestyle80 said:


Cant you see that rather than 'incest' no one likes such a retarded character like Kirino? or do u like getting abused? Not our fetish sorry

Bozzzz said:


So you just conveniently ignored top low rating reviews eh?
I read 3 that were rated most helpful and all are i depth, bring out the series shortcomings and are by fans who have seen a lot of anime.
Not to mention the review you brought out is clearly by a viewer who usually would like this show. As proven by the baka. If I had to sum up this series then baka would be quite accurate. It's just stupid backpedaling to keep it going, characters who's personality can easil be described by baka and others who don't have much personality. Guess the writing is just so bad that that particular fan couldn't like it.
And how is this a slice of life that can't be epic. For one thing it's a harem not a slice of life. And it probably could be epic if they had a plot and used the other characters. But instead, it's Sagiri and her retardness plus the MC and his not well explained obsession. And the other girls are just there to make a harem and be background art.

Reikuo said:

Nobody cares about the hijacked review section plebs use as a blog to cry in. Those reviews had all been written before episode 4 came out... Regardless I honestly cant figure out what your even trying to say. I think you bent over backwards 6 different ways to muster out that your comprehension skills are subpar and you think the show has bad writing? You need to get off anime forums...

Illyricus said:
I never mentioned anything about liking Kirino in my post, though.

Freestyle80 said:


I was pointing out that its not that its incest that people dont like (well some people hate it thats for sure) but how stupid the characters are and especially the 'main heroine' Kirino, how can anyone like her? and if u cant like the focal point of the show ofc u'll hate the show itself.

Illyricus said:
You have a point; a lot of people hated Kirino and her victory was one of the cause people got so salty with the series (thing I also mentioned in my post), but you understimate the "incest = abomination" people, especially in this website, where everytime anyone creates an incest thread, a flamewar starts.
I also think the incest is one of the reasons why Oreimo hasn't been dubbed to English to these days despite it's popularity.

Bozzzz said:


Feel free to make our own trash forum.
You know why shows like SnK and eromanga get so much hate? SnK fans going on in every forum that it's GOAT (while it's good, nowhere close to great) and eromanga fans going on about that's good. I wish I never gave eromanga a chance. Well, that's what it get trusting what's in a forum.

It's not like I'm on MAL just to bash eromanga and other hyped trash. A lot of normal fans and discussions here, just fans like here make me mad.

Freestyle80 said:


well..i guess thats how it is in MAL but from the people i know their main reasons for disliking the series was for what i stated and that kinda my reason too, its not fun seeing the MC getting abused

Eromanga follows a similar pattern but much tamer, though these types of series is just not my cup of tea i guess

Reikuo said:

You made statements you cant back up and you got called out for using a terrible source. Now its the fans fault for challenging your cruddy interpretation of the show? If you come to these forums and make shitty claims then you should at least be prepared to be challenged about them. Instead you use simple insults and lame talking points to really say nothing of value at all.

My interpretation was that she was pretty much a nasty bitch because it was going to be that much crazier when MC ends up successfully getting with her. More of an interesting scenario to take someone like Kirino and how she treated her brother and end up with an incest ending.