Kingdom Chapter 515 Discussion

short_review said:
You won't see Houken in this campaign. He would be out of place.

I'm confident we won't see his return before a long time.

I have the feeling Kyoukai will be in the same situation as Kyou, Houken will return suddenly one night in a few years, cross the lines of her army, looking for her "aura". He'll defeat her and harm her but Shin will arrive in a hurry and slay him in duel before he could finish Kyoukai. And that's how Shin will become known as the strongest in China.

I'm really confident about it because Kyoukai/Shin are basically a repetition of Kyou/Ouki except this time the author wants to give it a good ending.

Ramkec said:
No way he'd be out of place he's still one of Zhao's 3 Great Heavens, why would he be out of place in a war threatening his country.

I think him, Riboku and Shibashou will be keeping Zhao lines on every front they'll be sent. That's why Qin won't be able to advance and will have to rely on other schemes to finally conquer Zhao.

short_review said:


He's a 3 great heaven only by name. He doesn't care about Zhao.

He wanted to have his revenge against Ouki because he wasn't sure who was the strongest.

He joined the coalition merely as a tourist out of curiosity but to him they were all bugs. Duke Hyou, Shin, Yotanwa ... bugs.

There is no challenge awaiting him in the current arc. He won't come.

Ramkec said:


So you think Zhao will fall, and nobody, not even Riboku will remember or dare to say "Hey wait a second, we have this beast guy training in our woods why not call him to help?

I just don't believe it, but ok we'll see, I understand your point.

logitech788 said:


Because Riboku is too smart to risk using Houken in a defensive campaign. Every campaign Houken has been involved in was offensive in nature. Houken is the type of guy to jump from the castle walls and attack a ten thousand army himself. At that point the defenders are in a lose lose situation because if they abandon the walls to help him, they lose valuable defenders advantage, and if they leave him alone there's a chance he will die and destroy the moral of the defending army.

Houken doesn't follow orders, and only listens to Riboku because Riboku promised him that he will find answers on the battlefield. Houken isn't going to listen to Riboku when he sees at least 5 promising duels in front of him. For example he listened to Riboku by abandoning the fight With Mou Bu only because he didn't think Mou Bu was worthy of his time when the bigger catch (Ouki) was right around the corner. You can bet if it was Ouki in front of him then, there would be no way Houken would have listened to Riboku in pretending to flee.

Riboku one of the smartest intellectuals of his era not knowing his own limits of influence on Houken makes no sense at all.

At this point in the ARC there's only 2 people who comes close to challenging him mountain queen and Renpa(stat wise) so it will be awhile before we see him in any serious fights for a long time. e.

Another point worthy of note is that Houken is now stronger than when he fought Ouki. Just like every qin character 'leveled' up after a major victory, so has Houken with every encounter.

short_review said:
You won't see Houken in this campaign. He would be out of place.