| My first post on MAL forum. Yayyy :D I notice the lack of female MC in anime. Outside of shows with reverse harem, romance, shoujo or yuri of course. What are your thoughts on this? Does female make better protagonists than male? Who is your favorite female MC in anime? I'd say Homura (Madoka Magica), Chihiro (Spirited Away) and Chiyo (Gekkan Shoujo Nozaki-kun) This is just from my perspective, maybe I should go watch more anime. |
bestmitsuyaNov 30, 2016 10:04 PM
| I think there are many good Female MC oriented shows too.. It's just that anime with male MCs are much more popular so they don't get much attention.. Obligatory Misaka Mikoto from Index/Railgun... |
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| My favorite female main anime character is Medaka from Medaka Box, she is a really great blend of strong personality, motivational drive, and warmth to those around her. She does act a bit crazy at times, but she is one of the most genuine female characters I've seen in anime. Oh, and "plot", she's got plenty of that as well. |
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zirachan95 said: I notice the lack of female MC in anime. Outside of shows with reverse harem, romance, shoujo or yuri of course. Actually, there are a few subgenres meant for males with female MCs. Cute Girls Doing Cute Things usually doesn't have any males in the main cast, and even if they are present, they're not the main characters. This season we have at least thee of them: Brave Witches, Stella no Mahou and 2nd season of Euphonium. Action shows which aren't "battle shounen" or "battle harem", especially the "panty fighter" kind, are likely to have female protagonists too. Agent Aika, Bakuretsu Tenshi, Noir, Hikari to Mizu no Daphne, Grenadier, Claymore, Ghost in the Shell... This season we have at least four of them: Keijo, Shuumatsu no Izetta, Vivid Strike and Flip Flappers. |
| Gender doesn't matter if they're not annoying fucks. |
| No, we have many series that have female main not within the genres you've mentioned. I'm pretty sure they just slipped your mind and confirmation bias took over by the point you decided to write and post this. Just take a look, plenty of female main characters. Also special sarcastic shout-out to the mahou shoujo genre. I don't care about the gender of main character, I've despised and loved main characters, male or female. No they don't neccessarily make better or worse main character, it's all about how they are written. Favourite female main characters... how main is main? Like MAIN main, or like the least of a 3 main character cast with a male MAIN main character works too? Anyways, Sakura Chiyo would be up there, though honestly the show shifts perspective around a lot. |
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zirachan95 said: The sex of the character does not matter honestly Does female make better protagonists than male? Sure I might like male protagonists a little more since Im male myself and that could most likely be true if you look at my favourites but I could also mention female protagonists I consider great and when I look at these characters thinking of what I like about them their sex feels very irrelevant |
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| I just don't care for the gender of the main character as long as I find him/her likeable. |
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| I notice the lack of male MC in anime. Outside of shows with harem, romance, shounen or yaoi of course. What are your thoughts on this? Does male make better protagonists than female? Who is your favorite male MC in anime? I'd say Daikichi (Usagi Drop), Chihiro (Shounen Maid) and Rikuo (Eve no Jikan) This is just from my perspective, maybe I should go watch more anime. Yeah, but seriously a lot of what I watch have female protagonists and not all of them are aimed at females. |
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| Sometimes even a single post can sum up the answer of the whole thread. :) Gexis said: Gender doesn't matter if they're not annoying fucks. |
| dont't watch that anime if you are going to give it 1* and cry 10000 words in review about it. |
| I think there is a degree of confirmation bias here. Some of the most well known and highly regarded animated works have very strong female leads. Miyazaki in particular receives praise for his sublime and gallant portrayals of young women. Nausicaä and such like. I don't think female main characters are necessarily underrepresented. But yeah if you're watching seasonal trash where MC #23989432 is being swarmed by every well endowed high school girl he's ever locked eyes with then yeah, that's all you're going to see. |
Latent said: ill take series that dont exist for 200$ alexBut yeah if you're watching seasonal trash where MC #23989432 is being swarmed by every well endowed high school girl he's ever locked eyes with then yeah, that's all you're going to see. @zirachan95 just this season we have Izetta, Hibike, Mahou Shoujo Ikusei Keikakau, Flip Flappers, the new Wixoss, Brave Witches, Nazotokine and a few others |
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| great shows with female MC: akatsuki no yona (shoujo, reverse harem) i know this is already on ur list and the genres that you wanted to avoid, but this is a rare case in wich female character gets an amazing character developpement (in these genres) even if she's weak and was a spoiled princess watamote (shounen): main character is a teenage girl with a really bad case of social anxiety, she's kind of evil but lovable, and she's hilarious kill la kill (shounen): already on ur list, haven't watched it myself, but i hear all characters are tomboys, anyway i believe it's a must watch gintama (shounen): well there are 3 main characters, the main protagonist is male, but the female heroine is a strong girl with an adorable voice and personality ( she's a vulgar tomboy), and this is one of the only shounen with an amazing female cast, they're all strong, quirky and fun |
| because fans in the anime community are predominantly males, so the writers create shows that these fans relate to because it simply sells more. but as you know, female protagonists doesn't make an anime less enjoyable. and it would be a crime if you haven't watched princess mononoke and seirei no moribito. these animes are the literal definition of girl power |
homufate said: If you look at top anime from MAL all of of them is almost main male protoganist, I find it lack of great female main protoganist anime though Except -Madoka Magica 8.51 -Psycho-Pass 8.51 -Kill la Kill 8.23 -Yuuki Yuuna is Hero 7.54 -Love Live! 7.71 -Gakkou Gurashi 7.71 Also I find MAL really underated female protoganist anime consider top 20 is almost male protoganist anime though atleast Madoka deserve to be on top 20 list, it already on top 20 animelist in Anikore (Japan MAL) Why did you forget Sen to Chihiro no Kamikakushi (8.93), Howl no Ugoku Shiro (8.74), Kara no Kyoukai (8.68), Aria (8.64), Kamisama Hajimemashita (8.64), Ghost in the Shell (8.57), Girls und Panzer (8.56), Nana (8.55)... (I didn't include romance with a male-female pair of protagonists) Do you have some hidden agenda here, or did you legitimately not know all these shows had female protagonists? |
zirachan95 said: I think the best female mc is great beyond that.. I notice the lack of female MC in anime. Outside of shows with reverse harem, romance, shoujo or yuri of course. What are your thoughts on this? Does female make better protagonists than male? no, there nothing absolute thing like that. The cliche answer is "it's all depend.."Who is your favorite female MC in anime? I'd say Homura (Madoka Magica), Chihiro (Spirited Away) and Chiyo (Gekkan Shoujo Nozaki-kun) I got some tooAi Tabane(planetes) Nodame(nodame cantabile) Nausicaa(kaze no tani nausicaa) Izumi Noa(Mobile Police: Patlabor) This is just from my perspective, maybe I should go watch more anime. I don't too many either.. |
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homufate said: flannan said: Why did you forget Sen to Chihiro no Kamikakushi (8.93), Howl no Ugoku Shiro (8.74), Kara no Kyoukai (8.68), Aria (8.64), Kamisama Hajimemashita (8.64), Ghost in the Shell (8.57), Girls und Panzer (8.56), Nana (8.55)... (I didn't include romance with a male-female pair of protagonists) Do you have some hidden agenda here, or did you legitimately not know all these shows had female protagonists? I'm not forget but those 5 is just example of how underated this type of anime even if I included those, I still say very least of great female main protoganist anime then check about anime which male protoganist in top 100, it almost 75% Also most of anime in that is movie so I don't include it in example (more of it the number of votes of main female protoganist is very low if you compare to main male protoganist) Top 50 most popular characters on MAL has a sizeable proportion of females (17). At least 2 of them, Konata Izumi and Yuno Gasai, are protagonists of their shows. Note that not all male characters on that list are protagonists too. Sure, it isn't equality, but it does prove there is no problem for female main characters and protagonists. |
| hey op... do you even Keijo? do you even Izetta? Do you even Vivid Strike? Do you even Brave Witches? Do you even Nazotokine? Do you even Soushin shoujo Matoi? Do you even Love Live? do you even CGDCT in general? none of these are: reverse harem, romance, shoujo or yuri you're not looking hard enough lol |
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EcchiLordMamster said: hey op... do you even Keijo? do you even Izetta? Do you even Vivid Strike? Do you even Brave Witches? Do you even Nazotokine? Do you even Soushin shoujo Matoi? Do you even Love Live? do you even CGDCT in general? none of these are: reverse harem, romance, shoujo or yuri you're not looking hard enough lol You're not wrong, I actually don't. I should've include mahou shoujo, moe sol and idol anime into the post too. |
BurningSpirit said: I'm pretty sure they just slipped your mind and confirmation bias took over by the point you decided to write and post this. Just take a look, plenty of female main characters. Also special sarcastic shout-out to the mahou shoujo genre. What do you mean by confirmation bias? Sorry because English is not my first language. I decided to make this post after looking at my short list of completed anime so I guess I am missing on a lot... BurningSpirit said: Favourite female main characters... how main is main? Like MAIN main, or like the least of a 3 main character cast with a male MAIN main character works too? The MAIN main. Obvious example like Ryūko (Kill la Kill). |
| I'm not an expert and need to watch more anime myself, but almost everything I watch has a female protagonist and main cast. I do watch some of the exceptions that you noted, though not all. I think there's a fairly even split between male and female protagonists in anime, though I have noticed there's a lack of male protagonists in shoujo shows. But then again, there's a lack of shoujo shows in comparison, and many seem very self-insert-y |
zirachan95 said: EcchiLordMamster said: hey op... do you even Keijo? do you even Izetta? Do you even Vivid Strike? Do you even Brave Witches? Do you even Nazotokine? Do you even Soushin shoujo Matoi? Do you even Love Live? do you even CGDCT in general? none of these are: reverse harem, romance, shoujo or yuri you're not looking hard enough lol You're not wrong, I actually don't. I should've include mahou shoujo, moe sol and idol anime into the post too. i was finna say lol, theres SO MANY examples of female MC's xD and that is my preference lol |
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homufate said: flannan said: Top 50 most popular characters on MAL has a sizeable proportion of females (17). At least 2 of them, Konata Izumi and Yuno Gasai, are protagonists of their shows. Note that not all male characters on that list are protagonists too. Sure, it isn't equality, but it does prove there is no problem for female main characters and protagonists. I mean the anime with have female main protoganist, Yuno is protoganist but not the main, Yugiteru is the main protoganist (Main protoganist in my opinion is a charater who has most role in the story which yuno isn't) Top 50 most popular characters on MAL still how male character got beloved more than female character, I am not saying femlae main protoganist anime is not popular but just main male protoganist anime is way far more popular in MAL which some female main protoganist anime should be deserve praise more than that. Ex. Madoka is consider most popular in Japan (record at most talking board anime in 2ch) also worldwide to http://www.saiyanisland.com/2011/12/googles-top-10-fastest-rising-anime-of-2011/ but in MAL is less popular than steins gate, mirai nikki, ano hana, ao no exorcist, also less popular than show like high school of the dead, elfen lied and sao is really bug me. the only reason, I believed why is underated in this because madoka is mahou shoujo anime which has female main protoganist (this genre has rated 50,000 at best) In my opinion, Yuno is the protagonist, and Yukiteru is merely a point-of-view character and damsel in distress. Just like Sherlock Holmes is the protagonist, and Dr. Watson is a PoV character and a sidekick. I haven't finished Madoka Magika, so I have no idea why Madoka herself should be popular. From what I have seen, she's just like Shinji, Yukiteru and similar main characters which are well written, but aren't going to get many fans, because they just aren't cool enough. |
zirachan95 said: EcchiLordMamster said: hey op... do you even Keijo? do you even Izetta? Do you even Vivid Strike? Do you even Brave Witches? Do you even Nazotokine? Do you even Soushin shoujo Matoi? Do you even Love Live? do you even CGDCT in general? none of these are: reverse harem, romance, shoujo or yuri you're not looking hard enough lol You're not wrong, I actually don't. I should've include mahou shoujo, moe sol and idol anime into the post too. Add "action" to the list, and there would be pretty much nothing left of anime. I did give you 4 anime that have female leads and still fit your criteria, though. zirachan95 said: BurningSpirit said: I'm pretty sure they just slipped your mind and confirmation bias took over by the point you decided to write and post this. Just take a look, plenty of female main characters. Also special sarcastic shout-out to the mahou shoujo genre. What do you mean by confirmation bias? Sorry because English is not my first language. I decided to make this post after looking at my short list of completed anime so I guess I am missing on a lot... Okay, this isn't easy to explain, but if I fail, you can always ask Wikipedia (and ask her for the page in your language). Confirmation bias is a bias (flaw in the way our brains work) which makes us notice things that agree with what we think is true more than things that disagree with what we think is true. You can say "the apples are red and ready to harvest", come to a tree, and see a lot of red apples. Another man can say "the apples are green yet, let's harvest them another day", come to the same tree, and see a lot of green apples. In fact, the tree probably has a mix of both red and green apples. But you can't estimate how many are red and how many are green, unless you actually count them. |
zirachan95 said: What do you mean by confirmation bias? Sorry because English is not my first language. I decided to make this post after looking at my short list of completed anime so I guess I am missing on a lot... The MAIN main. Obvious example like Ryūko (Kill la Kill). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias Confirmation bias, also called confirmatory bias or myside bias, is the tendency to search for, interpret, favor, and recall information in a way that confirms one's preexisting beliefs or hypotheses Basically I'm saying once you thought that there was a lack of female MCs, you subconsciously didn't recall the many we've had. Chino from GochuUsa and Renge from Non Non Biyori for sheer cuteness. Huh... why does only cuteness come to mind... Shiro from NGNL (though Jibril is best girl, but she's not main character). Misaka from Railgun. Special mention to the entirety of Love Live. OK I've got to put cuteness aside! Shino from Seitokai Yakuindomo. Hishiron from RElife (Kaizaki was more the main in the anime, but the focus shifted quite towards Hishiro in the manga, told from both perspectives) |
BurningSpiritDec 1, 2016 4:21 AM
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Sweetlili said: If you're wondering about my favorite FEMALE MC (Because in every anime I think there's also a female not only a male) here is my list: Kanade Tachibana CC? Tohka Yatogami But...they're not the MAIN protagonist in their own respective shows, aren't they? Kanade-chan :-: Sweetlili said: By the way, Homura isn't the protagonist XD, it's Madoka. Ah you got me, but I still like Homura more XD |
homufate said: flannan said: In my opinion, Yuno is the protagonist, and Yukiteru is merely a point-of-view character and damsel in distress. Just like Sherlock Holmes is the protagonist, and Dr. Watson is a PoV character and a sidekick. I haven't finished Madoka Magika, so I have no idea why Madoka herself should be popular. From what I have seen, she's just like Shinji, Yukiteru and similar main characters which are well written, but aren't going to get many fans, because they just aren't cool enough. I consider point of view character be main protoganist (Even Sherlock Homes which is title, I consider Watson be main protoganist because the story is from his point of view, Sherlock Homes is the story and protoganists itself like akame ga kill or index which main protoganist is not the tiltle character) For Madoka I am not talking about charcater popular but the anime itself should be more popular than that Well, Madoka has a high meta-level. It only cool after you've seen a bunch of regular magical girl anime, otherwise it isn't all that good. Note how many of the popular anime are beginner-level like SAO or Shingeki no Kyoujin. |
flannan said: Well, Madoka has a high meta-level. It only cool after you've seen a bunch of regular magical girl anime, otherwise it isn't all that good. Note how many of the popular anime are beginner-level like SAO or Shingeki no Kyoujin. Madoka Magica isn't really that high-meta, just having a general idea of how most mahou shoujo anime is enough. How far into it are you? Beginner level huh? Wouldn't technically something like One Punch Man be considered somewhat high-meta, since you would have to be familiar with multiple generic shounen to fully appreciate it in all its glory? Though admittedly generic shounen is beginner level, which could mean OPM is placed just barely above that. Or perhaps it can be appreciated both as a beginner and "high-meta"? |
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BurningSpirit said: zirachan95 said: What do you mean by confirmation bias? Sorry because English is not my first language. I decided to make this post after looking at my short list of completed anime so I guess I am missing on a lot... The MAIN main. Obvious example like Ryūko (Kill la Kill). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias Confirmation bias, also called confirmatory bias or myside bias, is the tendency to search for, interpret, favor, and recall information in a way that confirms one's preexisting beliefs or hypotheses Basically I'm saying once you thought that there was a lack of female MCs, you subconsciously didn't recall the many we've had. Chino from GochuUsa and Renge from Non Non Biyori for sheer cuteness. Huh... why does only cuteness come to mind... Shiro from NGNL (though Jibril is best girl, but she's not main character). Misaka from Railgun. Special mention to the entirety of Love Live. OK I've got to put cuteness aside! Shino from Seitokai Yakuindomo. Hishiron from RElife (Kaizaki was more the main in the anime, but the focus shifted quite towards Hishiro in the manga, told from both perspectives) LOL cuteness aside, thank you for explaining, they're much appreciated. |
homufate said: I was actually wacthed Madoka before any mahou shoujo genre. It is not that good just your opinion (also my opinion to that consider it be masterpiece) but the fact is UNDERATED in MAL compare how popular it really was. http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-03-12/yomiuri-shimbun-sugoi-japan-awards-winners-announced/.85910 Note. Madoka is actually more popular than sao,aot in Japan if we are talking BD/DVD sold out. The link said "The Yomiuri Shimbun newspaper published the winners of its Sugoi Japan Awards. Genre experts nominated approximately 50 anime, manga, light novel and entertainment novels from the last 10 years and allowed visitors to vote for their favorites." Nowhere does it say it is more popular than SnK or SAO. |
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BurningSpirit said: flannan said: Well, Madoka has a high meta-level. It only cool after you've seen a bunch of regular magical girl anime, otherwise it isn't all that good. Note how many of the popular anime are beginner-level like SAO or Shingeki no Kyoujin. Madoka Magica isn't really that high-meta, just having a general idea of how most mahou shoujo anime is enough. How far into it are you? I think I've seen 4 to 6 episodes before dropping it. BurningSpirit said: Beginner level huh? Wouldn't technically something like One Punch Man be considered somewhat high-meta, since you would have to be familiar with multiple generic shounen to fully appreciate it in all its glory? Though admittedly generic shounen is beginner level, which could mean OPM is placed just barely above that. Or perhaps it can be appreciated both as a beginner and "high-meta"? Yes, One Punch Man is a high-meta show. It's ranked 24, probably because it is more fun and less horror. Still, I consider complaining about placement of shows within the top to be splitting hairs. |
flannan said: [Yes, One Punch Man is a high-meta show. It's ranked 24, probably because it is more fun and less horror. Still, I consider complaining about placement of shows within the top to be splitting hairs. Wew! So I'm clearly enjoying OPM much more than all the plebs out there XD homufate said: I say if we are about BD/DVD sold out isn't it.In Japan in Anikore it has more popular than aot (which Anikore website is like MAL of Japan) BD/DVD Madoka 71000 Attack on titan 51000 Sao 36000 Perhaps. But internationally (in know ameri-centric say "in the west", but screw that) it's a different story. SnK, SAO and OPM are recent examples of mainstream out of the anime community shows. Haven't bloody heard of a normie mention Madoka Magica. |
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Im seeing a lot of talk about Madoka in here so I just felt like saying it would be better to just watch Revolutionary Girl Utena better characters, better pacing and isn't a copy pasted version of Mirai Nikki with a few changes and less gore |
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| OP's fav is lacking... You should add Hato(Genshiken) dude... Surpasses any female qualities... Because he is a crossdressing, dude.... xD Well, at least he can portray being a female quite good, I mean he can cook and do the laundry, not like your waifu... xD  |
Deknijff said: Missing truth & foreverIm seeing a lot of talk about Madoka in here so I just felt like saying it would be better to just watch Revolutionary Girl Utena http://i.imgur.com/4wxBzRp.jpg better characters, better pacing and isn't a copy pasted version of Mirai Nikki with a few changes and less gore Kissing love & true your heart Dakishimete hontou no te de ~~ |
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romagia said: are those 3 shows or something?Deknijff said: Missing truth & foreverIm seeing a lot of talk about Madoka in here so I just felt like saying it would be better to just watch Revolutionary Girl Utena http://i.imgur.com/4wxBzRp.jpg better characters, better pacing and isn't a copy pasted version of Mirai Nikki with a few changes and less gore Kissing love & true your heart Dakishimete hontou no the de ~~ MAL is giving me nothing |
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| you are not a true utena fan >:[ >:[ >:[ |
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romagia said: I didn't say I was a fan you are not a true utena fan >:[ >:[ >:[ I just said it was better than Madoka But now when checking Utena I see its the ending songs you are talking about which I skipped Only song I care for was this |
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Deknijff said: reeeeee thats the most skippable song of the seriesromagia said: I didn't say I was a fan you are not a true utena fan >:[ >:[ >:[ I just said it was better than Madoka But now when checking Utena I see its the ending songs you are talking about which I skipped Only song I care for was this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E83hl6hDfKQ |
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romagia said: I didn't skip the song even a single time as I was watching the showDeknijff said: reeeeee thats the most skippable song of the seriesI didn't say I was a fan I just said it was better than Madoka But now when checking Utena I see its the ending songs you are talking about which I skipped Only song I care for was this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E83hl6hDfKQ |
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Deknijff said: me neither xD but i thought many times about doing it, and when i ever rewatch, i strongly consider frequent skippingromagia said: I didn't skip the song even a single time as I was watching the showreeeeee thats the most skippable song of the series |
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Deknijff said: Im seeing a lot of talk about Madoka in here so I just felt like saying it would be better to just watch Revolutionary Girl Utena better characters, better pacing and isn't a copy pasted version of Mirai Nikki with a few changes and less gore Lol. TY so much for turning this Modoko fest into an Utena thread. @romagia Did you really go through the awful OP and ED? lol |
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Clebardman said: but moooom you dont get the symbolism in the op and edDeknijff said: Im seeing a lot of talk about Madoka in here so I just felt like saying it would be better to just watch Revolutionary Girl Utena better characters, better pacing and isn't a copy pasted version of Mirai Nikki with a few changes and less gore Lol. TY so much for turning this Modoko fest into an Utena thread. @romagia Did you really go through the awful OP and ED? lol |
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Clebardman said: No problem man Deknijff said: Im seeing a lot of talk about Madoka in here so I just felt like saying it would be better to just watch Revolutionary Girl Utena better characters, better pacing and isn't a copy pasted version of Mirai Nikki with a few changes and less gore Lol. TY so much for turning this Modoko fest into an Utena thread.  Im glad I could be of help |
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| I didn't try to get anything, it was awful J-pop :x. I skipped really really fast lol. |
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Clebardman said: the lyrics of rondo revolution make more sense after the endingI didn't try to get anything, it was awful J-pop :x. I skipped really really fast lol. "But even if the two of us should be separated, our hearts will always be together." ;-; |
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