Emnschweiz said: hoopla123 said: Every gender, race and fucking species is mispresented in all forms of media. You see anyone bitching about misrepresentation of men in anime/tv shows/video games/VNs/etc? No. What a waste of time. Talking to a wall is more productive than talking to a delusional sjw. How are men being misrepresented do you think? Um well. Watch Free, for starters. XD I have zero problems with any form of misrepresentation on media. Saaaame here. :/ I DON'T NEED REALISM IN MUH FANTASY. That would be counter-productive. lol |
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hoopla123 said: Zilf said: how many do you want me to quote myself Out of nothing? or are you saying you don't see the misrepresenting of woman in anime? sure, hugs your disgusting waifu and turn blind eyes to it, that's what you guys always do anyway. Every gender, race and fucking species is mispresented in all forms of media. You see anyone bitching about misrepresentation of men in anime/tv shows/video games/VNs/etc? No. What a waste of time. Talking to a wall is more productive than talking to a delusional sjw. Not. The. Point. This thread specifically is dealing with misogyny. Not other forms of misrepresentation which can be addressed on a different topic. @Spooky_E: And? There are many things said on here that will accomplish nothing really, but never are there any insults directed at them. Oh, my bad. I'm a feminist trying to discuss feminist issues amidst a mass patriarchal circlejerk. |
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Chiibi said: I'm talking about the concept of waifu.Zilf said: sure, hugs your disgusting waifu and turn blind eyes to it, that's what you guys always do anyway. Hey now, if you're gonna insult animu waifus, they are still women and that's very misogynistic, sir. D: hoopla123 said: See, you logic is just to run away nothing more than that. and trying to cencsored the speech with "other people didn't even talk about it why should you?".Zilf said: how many do you want me to quote myself Out of nothing? or are you saying you don't see the misrepresenting of woman in anime? sure, hugs your disgusting waifu and turn blind eyes to it, that's what you guys always do anyway. Every gender, race and fucking species is mispresented in all forms of media. You see anyone bitching about misrepresentation of men in anime/tv shows/video games/VNs/etc? No. What a waste of time. Talking to a wall is more productive than talking to a delusional sjw. You're not even talking, you just trying to find and make an escape route in a close space called misrepresenting of woman. |
CherryLover said: Oh, my bad. I'm a feminist trying to discuss feminist issues amidst a mass patriarchal circlejerk. I'm a feminist too but attacking fiction that appeals to male fantasy is just silly and a waste of time. |
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Chiibi said: Hooo, now now, don't you know? only those that can project issue out of nothing that is qualify as feminist.CherryLover said: Oh, my bad. I'm a feminist trying to discuss feminist issues amidst a mass patriarchal circlejerk. I'm a feminist too but attacking fiction that appeals to male fantasy is just silly and a waste of time. @Cherrylover I really refrain myself from saying this but your favorite is screaming "I LIKE OBJECTIFIES MAN IN ANIME" while your mouth saying female is-... well, nvm. |
hoopla123 said: So you mean when men represented as being very exceedingly fit and buff it's misrepresentation? Well, you're right. But men aren't misrepresented in the same way women are. Read any popular shoujo manga and you'll see. Or just watch Free!. I have zero problems with any form of misrepresentation on media. But if someone cries about female representation and says that males aren't misrepresented, I'll prove the point. Big swole male muscles aren't equivalent to a womens curves because BOTH are there to appeal to male readers. Having giant muscles is a pretty common male power fantasy. Not to mention that when a women character is depicted all sexy with enormous tits, it's usually done by a male. The character isn't even aware of their own sexuality. That being said, there are exceptions like you pointed out with Free, an anime directed towards women. |
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Zilf said: Chiibi said: I'm talking about the concept of waifu.Hey now, if you're gonna insult animu waifus, they are still women and that's very misogynistic, sir. D: hoopla123 said: See, you logic is just to run away nothing more than that. and trying to cencsored the speech with "other people didn't even talk about it why should you?".Every gender, race and fucking species is mispresented in all forms of media. You see anyone bitching about misrepresentation of men in anime/tv shows/video games/VNs/etc? No. What a waste of time. Talking to a wall is more productive than talking to a delusional sjw. You're not even talking, you just trying to find and make an escape route in a close space called misrepresenting of woman. See here's the difference between normal people and sensitive ass ones like yourself. Normal people see it and don't make a problem out if it BECAUSE THERE IS NO PROBLEM. It's called fucking FICTION and just a form of entertainment. But people like yourself think if something isn't complained about, its because everyone else is an ignorant prick while you are the special snowflake sent from the heavens above to save the fucking universe from sexism/misogyny. I would highly suggest using the brain your parents gave birth to before you make such ridiculous posts about fictional works that have no relation to reality. |
Emnschweiz said: hoopla123 said: So you mean when men represented as being very exceedingly fit and buff it's misrepresentation? Well, you're right. But men aren't misrepresented in the same way women are. Read any popular shoujo manga and you'll see. Or just watch Free!. I have zero problems with any form of misrepresentation on media. But if someone cries about female representation and says that males aren't misrepresented, I'll prove the point. Big swole male muscles aren't equivalent to a womens curves because BOTH are there to appeal to male readers. Having giant muscles is a pretty common male power fantasy. Not to mention that when a women character is depicted all sexy with enormous tits, it's usually done by a male. The character isn't even aware of their own sexuality. That being said, there are exceptions like you pointed out with Free, an anime directed towards women. I don't think you've read a Shoujo manga if that's all you think there is. Excessively fit? Most Shoujo manga male love interests are either skinny pretty boys with at most a decent athletic build. Excessively fit would belong to the cast in the likes of Jojo and such. The misrepresentation I was trying to show you is the rapey ass attitude 99% of Shoujo main male love interests take abusing the shit out of heroine. |
Emnschweiz said: hoopla123 said: So you mean when men represented as being very exceedingly fit and buff it's misrepresentation? Well, you're right. But men aren't misrepresented in the same way women are. Read any popular shoujo manga and you'll see. Or just watch Free!. I have zero problems with any form of misrepresentation on media. But if someone cries about female representation and says that males aren't misrepresented, I'll prove the point. Big swole male muscles aren't equivalent to a womens curves because BOTH are there to appeal to male readers. Having giant muscles is a pretty common male power fantasy. Not to mention that when a women character is depicted all sexy with enormous tits, it's usually done by a male. The character isn't even aware of their own sexuality. That being said, there are exceptions like you pointed out with Free, an anime directed towards women. No, he wasn't talking about the buffness; he was talking about how they are drawn very sexy and pretty in show for us women. XD The misrepresentation I was trying to show you is the rapey ass attitude 99% of Shoujo main male love interests take abusing the shit out of heroine. WHAAAAAAT. 99%!!!???? NOH. o____O EW MAN, YOU WATCH THE WRONG STUFF. Watch good series like Princess Tutu, Fruits Basket, and Akatsuki No Yona.... and stay the f*ck away from Otome game anime; they all suck. |
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hoopla123 said: Zilf said: I'm talking about the concept of waifu. See, you logic is just to run away nothing more than that. and trying to cencsored the speech with "other people didn't even talk about it why should you?". You're not even talking, you just trying to find and make an escape route in a close space called misrepresenting of woman. See here's the difference between normal people and sensitive ass ones like yourself. Normal people see it and don't make a problem out if it BECAUSE THERE IS NO PROBLEM. It's called fucking FICTION and just a form of entertainment. But people like yourself think if something isn't complained about, its because everyone else is an ignorant prick while you are the special snowflake sent from the heavens above to save the fucking universe from sexism/misogyny. I would highly suggest using the brain your parents gave birth to before you make such ridiculous posts about fictional works that have no relation to reality. So people bringing up relevant issues in the medium = being sensitive? If that's the case, I'd rather be sensitive than be completely tactless to the point I am insulting another person for bringing up something that I disagree with. Disgusting. @Spooky_E: Try comparing Free! to say KonoSuba... Oh, wait. There is no comparison. |
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hoopla123 said: They don't talk because most of them are male that enjoying the misrepresenting image of woman, it's fit with their image of waifu.Zilf said: I'm talking about the concept of waifu. See, you logic is just to run away nothing more than that. and trying to cencsored the speech with "other people didn't even talk about it why should you?". You're not even talking, you just trying to find and make an escape route in a close space called misrepresenting of woman. See here's the difference between normal people and sensitive ass ones like yourself. Normal people see it and don't make a problem out if it BECAUSE THERE IS NO PROBLEM. It's called fucking FICTION and just a form of entertainment. But people like yourself think if something isn't complained about, its because everyone else is an ignorant prick while you are the special snowflake sent from the heavens above to save the fucking universe from sexism/misogyny. I would highly suggest using the brain your parents gave birth to before you make such ridiculous posts about fictional works that have no relation to reality. They are like you, getting joy by trolling around when the issue is bring up. and again, just because it's fiction doesn't mean it have no influence in reality, especially the idea that it presenting. Oh projecting an insult this time, what an argument, much wow, I'm almost convinced. It has no relation? it has influence. you are the same type of people that saying anime can't be realistic because they have green hair. |
Chiibi said: Emnschweiz said: So you mean when men represented as being very exceedingly fit and buff it's misrepresentation? Well, you're right. But men aren't misrepresented in the same way women are. Big swole male muscles aren't equivalent to a womens curves because BOTH are there to appeal to male readers. Having giant muscles is a pretty common male power fantasy. Not to mention that when a women character is depicted all sexy with enormous tits, it's usually done by a male. The character isn't even aware of their own sexuality. That being said, there are exceptions like you pointed out with Free, an anime directed towards women. No, he wasn't talking about the buffness; he was talking about how they are drawn very sexy and pretty in show for us women. XD The misrepresentation I was trying to show you is the rapey ass attitude 99% of Shoujo main male love interests take abusing the shit out of heroine. WHAAAAAAT. 99%!!!???? NOH. o____O EW MAN, YOU WATCH THE WRONG STUFF. Watch good series like Princess Tutu, Fruits Basket, and Akatsuki No Yona.... and stay the f*ck away from Otome game anime; they all suck. ey man we all know most super popular shoujo manga series have the rapist tier male lead. |
hoopla123 said: Chiibi said: No, he wasn't talking about the buffness; he was talking about how they are drawn very sexy and pretty in show for us women. XD WHAAAAAAT. 99%!!!???? NOH. o____O EW MAN, YOU WATCH THE WRONG STUFF. Watch good series like Princess Tutu, Fruits Basket, and Akatsuki No Yona.... and stay the f*ck away from Otome game anime; they all suck. ey man we all know most super popular shoujo manga series have the rapist tier male lead. Kyou in Fruits Basket is not a rapist. Tomoe in Kami-sama Kiss is not a rapist. Tamaki in Ouran Host club is not a rapist. Fakir in Princess Tutu is not a rapist. Hak is not a rapist. Zen is not a rapist Do I need to keep going? lol |
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Ratohnhaketon said: Let me enlighten you@CherryLover - I'm still curious to know what you think about K-On. If your pitch is that moe is misogynistic and degrading, how can you provide exceptionalism for a show that exemplifies all of your points of attack? If cherry watch moe and enjoying it, it because it's more than moe. If some guy watch the SAME thing and enjoying it, it's because they like moeblob Stay tune in next episode of feminist's logic ;^) |
hoopla123 said: Even then, what happens to the heroine at the end of the story? Falls for the rapey ass man, right? Emnschweiz said: So you mean when men represented as being very exceedingly fit and buff it's misrepresentation? Well, you're right. But men aren't misrepresented in the same way women are. Big swole male muscles aren't equivalent to a womens curves because BOTH are there to appeal to male readers. Having giant muscles is a pretty common male power fantasy. Not to mention that when a women character is depicted all sexy with enormous tits, it's usually done by a male. The character isn't even aware of their own sexuality. That being said, there are exceptions like you pointed out with Free, an anime directed towards women. I don't think you've read a Shoujo manga if that's all you think there is. Excessively fit? Most Shoujo manga male love interests are either skinny pretty boys with at most a decent athletic build. Excessively fit would belong to the cast in the likes of Jojo and such. The misrepresentation I was trying to show you is the rapey ass attitude 99% of Shoujo main male love interests take abusing the shit out of heroine. Even then you can attribute that to a poor representation of women. I don't think it's hypocritical or bad that feminists tend to focus on issues that focus on women, femininity, etc. |
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Chiibi said: hoopla123 said: ey man we all know most super popular shoujo manga series have the rapist tier male lead. Kyou in Fruits Basket is not a rapist. Tomoe in Kami-sama Kiss is not a rapist. Tamaki in Ouran Host club is not a rapist. Fakir in Princess Tutu is not a rapist. Hak is not a rapist. Zen is not a rapist Do I need to keep going? lol I was just joking regarding the previous post. My point was that males are just as misrepresented as females in JP medium. |
Emnschweiz said: hoopla123 said: Even then, what happens to the heroine at the end of the story? Falls for the rapey ass man, right? I don't think you've read a Shoujo manga if that's all you think there is. Excessively fit? Most Shoujo manga male love interests are either skinny pretty boys with at most a decent athletic build. Excessively fit would belong to the cast in the likes of Jojo and such. The misrepresentation I was trying to show you is the rapey ass attitude 99% of Shoujo main male love interests take abusing the shit out of heroine. Even then you can attribute that to a poor representation of women. Well, firstly, that accusation is 100% false. To the second question; I don't know because when I find a garbage manga like that; I fling it into the wall, cursing in rage and never pick it up again. My point was that males are just as misrepresented as females in JP medium. True enough. XD I'm pretty defensive over my shoujo man; it pushed a button is all lol |
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Emnschweiz said: hoopla123 said: Even then, what happens to the heroine at the end of the story? Falls for the rapey ass man, right? I don't think you've read a Shoujo manga if that's all you think there is. Excessively fit? Most Shoujo manga male love interests are either skinny pretty boys with at most a decent athletic build. Excessively fit would belong to the cast in the likes of Jojo and such. The misrepresentation I was trying to show you is the rapey ass attitude 99% of Shoujo main male love interests take abusing the shit out of heroine. Even then you can attribute that to a poor representation of women. I don't think it's hypocritical or bad that feminists tend to focus on issues that focus on women, femininity, etc. If you argue that way, so can I. How about the males in male audience focused harem shows? Look at Ichika from Infinite Stratos. Depicts all men as dense dumb motherfuckers despite the fact that it is a SHOW FOR A MALE AUDIENCE. How about Rito from To Love Ru? He is literally the biggest pervert in the entire 2D verse. He pulls off bras and panties like they are nothing, depicting all men as sexual deviants. How about Kurosawa from Onani Master Kurosawa? Scumbag pervert that jacks off to women's belongings. Another depiction of how horrible males are despite it BEING A SHOW TARGETED AT A MALE AUDIENCE. Well would you look at that, "Even then you can attribute that to a poor representation of men." Same shit eh? |
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Spooky_E said: Ratohnhaketon said: Let me enlighten you@CherryLover - I'm still curious to know what you think about K-On. If your pitch is that moe is misogynistic and degrading, how can you provide exceptionalism for a show that exemplifies all of your points of attack? If cherry watch moe and enjoying it, it because it's more than moe. If some guy watch the SAME thing and enjoying it, it's because they like moeblob Stay tune in next episode of feminist's logic ;^) I have already adequately explained my reasoning, if you hadn't noticed. Just because I like the show doesn't mean it has no level of misrepresentation. Of course there are going to be more extreme levels of it in other anime, which are for worse and perpetuating falsely characterized women to appease the fantasies of males. Emnschweiz said: hoopla123 said: Even then, what happens to the heroine at the end of the story? Falls for the rapey ass man, right? I don't think you've read a Shoujo manga if that's all you think there is. Excessively fit? Most Shoujo manga male love interests are either skinny pretty boys with at most a decent athletic build. Excessively fit would belong to the cast in the likes of Jojo and such. The misrepresentation I was trying to show you is the rapey ass attitude 99% of Shoujo main male love interests take abusing the shit out of heroine. Even then you can attribute that to a poor representation of women. I don't think it's hypocritical or bad that feminists tend to focus on issues that focus on women, femininity, etc. Precisely what I am saying. Though because 'women's issues" don't matter to the community at large, most here are just going to write what we are saying off as "lol SJW's" |
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hoopla123 said: But not in the same way(or least most of time). dont turn blind eyes to that. oh wait, you not turning blind eyes, but the idea of misrepresenting of woman already project into your head and you already view it as normal.Chiibi said: Kyou in Fruits Basket is not a rapist. Tomoe in Kami-sama Kiss is not a rapist. Tamaki in Ouran Host club is not a rapist. Fakir in Princess Tutu is not a rapist. Hak is not a rapist. Zen is not a rapist Do I need to keep going? lol I was just joking regarding the previous post. My point was that males are just as misrepresented as females in JP medium. |
CherryLover said: Actaully my lovely child, gernally what you're trying to do here is always worthy of "lol SJW's"Spooky_E said: Let me enlighten you If cherry watch moe and enjoying it, it because it's more than moe. If some guy watch the SAME thing and enjoying it, it's because they like moeblob Stay tune in next episode of feminist's logic ;^) I have already adequately explained my reasoning, if you hadn't noticed. Just because I like the show doesn't mean it has no level of misrepresentation. Of course there are going to be more extreme levels of it in other anime, which are for worse and perpetuating falsely characterized women to appease the fantasies of males. Emnschweiz said: Even then, what happens to the heroine at the end of the story? Falls for the rapey ass man, right? Even then you can attribute that to a poor representation of women. I don't think it's hypocritical or bad that feminists tend to focus on issues that focus on women, femininity, etc. Precisely what I am saying. Though because 'women's issues" don't matter to the community at large, most here are just going to write what we are saying off as "lol SJW's" You should be proud of title :) |
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Zilf said: hoopla123 said: But not in the same way(or least most of time). dont turn blind eyes to that. oh wait, you not turning blind eyes, but the idea of misrepresenting of woman already project into your head and you already view it as normal.I was just joking regarding the previous post. My point was that males are just as misrepresented as females in JP medium. Please come back when you can post shit that isn't actually delusional. I'll do myself the pleasure of stopping this shit. Such cancer. |
Zilf said: hoopla123 said: But not in the same way(or least most of time).I was just joking regarding the previous post. My point was that males are just as misrepresented as females in JP medium. OH HOOOOOOH YES, IT'S THE EXACT SAME WAY. Do I need to start posting pictures that show this now? XD cause I can do that. |
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hoopla123 said: Emnschweiz said: Even then, what happens to the heroine at the end of the story? Falls for the rapey ass man, right? Even then you can attribute that to a poor representation of women. I don't think it's hypocritical or bad that feminists tend to focus on issues that focus on women, femininity, etc. If you argue that way, so can I. How about the males in male audience focused harem shows? Look at Ichika from Infinite Stratos. Depicts all men as dense dumb motherfuckers despite the fact that it is a SHOW FOR A MALE AUDIENCE. How about Rito from To Love Ru? He is literally the biggest pervert in the entire 2D verse. He pulls off bras and panties like they are nothing, depicting all men as sexual deviants. How about Kurosawa from Onani Master Kurosawa? Scumbag pervert that jacks off to women's belongings. Another depiction of how horrible males are despite it BEING A SHOW TARGETED AT A MALE AUDIENCE. Well would you look at that, "Even then you can attribute that to a poor representation of men." Same shit eh? Then, instead of derailing the topic dealing with WOMEN misrepresentation, why not make one dealing with the issues male representation has? Right, you are just trying to censor us because we aren't talking in accordance with your views. |
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Chiibi said: ow about Rito from To Love Ru? He is literally the biggest pervert in the entire 2D verse. He pulls off bras and panties like they are nothing, depicting all men as sexual deviants. Whoa, really? I thought he was one of those timid wuss types who run away. XD (only saw the first season; didn't like it enough to watch others.) But yeah, harem doesn't treat males so well either. XD (there be exceptions tho) He is a pussy that runs into pussy while running away from said pussy. Now that's just fucking said. The manga revealed that it's just in his nature to do so. That just depicts men as sexual deviants/perverts whose natural instinct is to fuck up every single woman they see in the street whether they like it or not. |
CherryLover said: ofcouse there's nothing to compare, free is objectifies male while KonoSuba is a fun show parody fantasy world.hoopla123 said: See here's the difference between normal people and sensitive ass ones like yourself. Normal people see it and don't make a problem out if it BECAUSE THERE IS NO PROBLEM. It's called fucking FICTION and just a form of entertainment. But people like yourself think if something isn't complained about, its because everyone else is an ignorant prick while you are the special snowflake sent from the heavens above to save the fucking universe from sexism/misogyny. I would highly suggest using the brain your parents gave birth to before you make such ridiculous posts about fictional works that have no relation to reality. So people bringing up relevant issues in the medium = being sensitive? If that's the case, I'd rather be sensitive than be completely tactless to the point I am insulting another person for bringing up something that I disagree with. Disgusting. @Spooky_E: Try comparing Free! to say KonoSuba... Oh, wait. There is no comparison. |
hoopla123 said: No, it's not really the same honestly. Emnschweiz said: Even then, what happens to the heroine at the end of the story? Falls for the rapey ass man, right? Even then you can attribute that to a poor representation of women. I don't think it's hypocritical or bad that feminists tend to focus on issues that focus on women, femininity, etc. If you argue that way, so can I. How about the males in male audience focused harem shows? Look at Ichika from Infinite Stratos. Depicts all men as dense dumb motherfuckers despite the fact that it is a SHOW FOR A MALE AUDIENCE. How about Rito from To Love Ru? He is literally the biggest pervert in the entire 2D verse. He pulls off bras and panties like they are nothing, depicting all men as sexual deviants. How about Kurosawa from Onani Master Kurosawa? Scumbag pervert that jacks off to women's belongings. Another depiction of how horrible males are despite it BEING A SHOW TARGETED AT A MALE AUDIENCE. Well would you look at that, "Even then you can attribute that to a poor representation of men." Same shit eh? These characters are simply self-insert characters. They're bare bones shit-tier because they only exist so the audience can have a view point to see women fawn over these characters. These protagonist characters aren't depicted like you say they are. Even though that is what they are, that's not how they're shown to the audience. These characters are never giving a monologue talking about how terrible they're treating all these women, or how they're so damn stupid. They just keep on keeping on like they're not doing shit wrong. Infinite Stratos and love ru are essentially the same show, they only exist to give a cocktease. And it's not just Infinte Stratos and love ru doing this, it's every harem show ever. It's a theme that's current throughout the entire medium. |
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Xillya- said: CherryLover said: Actaully my lovely child, gernally what you're trying to do here is always worthy of "lol SJW's"I have already adequately explained my reasoning, if you hadn't noticed. Just because I like the show doesn't mean it has no level of misrepresentation. Of course there are going to be more extreme levels of it in other anime, which are for worse and perpetuating falsely characterized women to appease the fantasies of males. Precisely what I am saying. Though because 'women's issues" don't matter to the community at large, most here are just going to write what we are saying off as "lol SJW's" You should be proud of title :) Very funny, troll. Trying to fall back on your bait tactics and try to distract me from the real issue at hand, eh? |
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hoopla123 said: You can't make a hole to escape now you hide behind a mask of "calling other delusional". much wow.Zilf said: But not in the same way(or least most of time). dont turn blind eyes to that. oh wait, you not turning blind eyes, but the idea of misrepresenting of woman already project into your head and you already view it as normal. Please come back when you can post shit that isn't actually delusional. I'll do myself the pleasure of stopping this shit. Such cancer. |
Spooky_E said: CherryLover said: ofcouse there's nothing to compare, free is objectifies male while KonoSuba is a fun show parody fantasy world.So people bringing up relevant issues in the medium = being sensitive? If that's the case, I'd rather be sensitive than be completely tactless to the point I am insulting another person for bringing up something that I disagree with. Disgusting. @Spooky_E: Try comparing Free! to say KonoSuba... Oh, wait. There is no comparison. Idk bruh.....I could have enjoyed KonoSuba episode 1 a lot more with a lot LESS of Aqua's commando ass in my face. XD (course the show's for guys so I don't have a right to complain. lol) |
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Emnschweiz said: hoopla123 said: No, it's not really the same honestly. If you argue that way, so can I. How about the males in male audience focused harem shows? Look at Ichika from Infinite Stratos. Depicts all men as dense dumb motherfuckers despite the fact that it is a SHOW FOR A MALE AUDIENCE. How about Rito from To Love Ru? He is literally the biggest pervert in the entire 2D verse. He pulls off bras and panties like they are nothing, depicting all men as sexual deviants. How about Kurosawa from Onani Master Kurosawa? Scumbag pervert that jacks off to women's belongings. Another depiction of how horrible males are despite it BEING A SHOW TARGETED AT A MALE AUDIENCE. Well would you look at that, "Even then you can attribute that to a poor representation of men." Same shit eh? These characters are simply self-insert characters. They're bare bones shit-tier because they only exist so the audience can have a view point to see women fawn over these characters. These protagonist characters aren't depicted like you say they are. Even though that is what they are, that's not how they're shown to the audience. These characters are never giving a monologue talking about how terrible they're treating all these women, or how they're so damn stupid. They just keep on keeping on like they're not doing shit wrong. Infinite Stratos and love ru are essentially the same show, they only exist to give a cocktease. And it's not just Infinte Stratos and love ru doing this, it's every harem show ever. It's a theme that's current throughout the entire medium. What? > implying Shoujo manga MC's aren't self inserts either. > implying Otome game MC's aren't self inserts either. What are you even on about lmao? If you want to argue about female misrepresentation, it's the same shit for males as well. |
Spooky_E said: CherryLover said: ofcouse there's nothing to compare, free is objectifies male while KonoSuba is a fun show parody fantasy world.So people bringing up relevant issues in the medium = being sensitive? If that's the case, I'd rather be sensitive than be completely tactless to the point I am insulting another person for bringing up something that I disagree with. Disgusting. @Spooky_E: Try comparing Free! to say KonoSuba... Oh, wait. There is no comparison. ...and utilizes insults towards women for a majority of its humor. |
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CherryLover said: But cherry, you keep calling people baiting, but i'm really impressed by your ability to bait people. you see how many people you just bait with your non exist issue right now?Xillya- said: Actaully my lovely child, gernally what you're trying to do here is always worthy of "lol SJW's" You should be proud of title :) Very funny, troll. Trying to fall back on your bait tactics and try to distract me from the real issue at hand, eh? |
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CherryLover said: I'm amazed how you can project that though out of nothing.Spooky_E said: ofcouse there's nothing to compare, free is objectifies male while KonoSuba is a fun show parody fantasy world. ...and utilizes insults towards women for a majority of its humor. |
Xillya- said: CherryLover said: But cherry, you keep calling people baiting, but i'm really impressed by your ability to bait people. you see how many people you just bait with your non exist issue right now?Very funny, troll. Trying to fall back on your bait tactics and try to distract me from the real issue at hand, eh? Not to mention accusing people of being a troll is totally not against the rules, right? :3 I think Cherry-chan just needs a dose of worms. |
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hoopla123 said: Emnschweiz said: No, it's not really the same honestly. These characters are simply self-insert characters. They're bare bones shit-tier because they only exist so the audience can have a view point to see women fawn over these characters. These protagonist characters aren't depicted like you say they are. Even though that is what they are, that's not how they're shown to the audience. These characters are never giving a monologue talking about how terrible they're treating all these women, or how they're so damn stupid. They just keep on keeping on like they're not doing shit wrong. Infinite Stratos and love ru are essentially the same show, they only exist to give a cocktease. And it's not just Infinte Stratos and love ru doing this, it's every harem show ever. It's a theme that's current throughout the entire medium. What? > implying Shoujo manga MC's aren't self inserts either. > implying Otome game MC's aren't self inserts either. What are you even on about lmao? If you want to argue about female misrepresentation, it's the same shit for males as well. Shoujo manga is better at making actual people of the heroines. OTOME GAMES MCS ARE SHIT. XD Their entire point is self-insert. So yeah, it's the same shit. Misrepresentation ALL around!! |
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Zanzegan said: Cherrylover > Rule > logic > male pigXillya- said: But cherry, you keep calling people baiting, but i'm really impressed by your ability to bait people. you see how many people you just bait with your non exist issue right now? Not to mention accusing people of being a troll is totally not against the rules, right? :3 Don't you know that? |
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| @hoopla123 your logic is pretty much "If I'm a raped victim, it's fine for me to rape other people too" |
| @Spooky_E @Zanzegan @Xillya- That's three clear troll accounts on this thread. If you think this is delusional, then LEAVE. The issue of this thread obviously has no meaning to you lot, and you are merely looking to derive some sick pleasure from my passion for the issue. You're looking for a way to bait me in some way... Disgusting. |
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Xillya- said: Zanzegan said: Cherrylover > Rule > logic > male pigNot to mention accusing people of being a troll is totally not against the rules, right? :3 Don't you know that? dayum m8, thanks for educating me. CherryLover said: @Spooky_E @Zanzegan @Xillya- That's three clear troll accounts on this thread. If you think this is delusional, then LEAVE. The issue of this thread obviously has no meaning to you lot, and you are merely looking to derive some sick pleasure from my passion for the issue. You're looking for a way to bait me in some way... Disgusting. #triggered |
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| .......................... damn you, hoopla123; you mentioned TLR, now the opening song is stuck in my head and I demand to know what you intend to do about this. |
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CherryLover said: You like something while recognizing what separates it from reality. Congratulations, you're just like the overwhelming majority of normal human beings. So what's the problem with misrepresentation of women or any demographic for that matter? I have never seen an anime that implies their portrayal of a character as the standard bearer for what people are really like in real life. The only person who does that is Miyazaki when he gets drunk and rambles about otaku and how anime was a mistake.I have already adequately explained my reasoning, if you hadn't noticed. Just because I like the show doesn't mean it has no level of misrepresentation. Of course there are going to be more extreme levels of it in other anime, which are for worse and perpetuating falsely characterized women to appease the fantasies of males. |
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CherryLover said: wait what? me ? troll? And you sure you're the one to talk here?@Spooky_E @Zanzegan @Xillya- That's three clear troll accounts on this thread. If you think this is delusional, then LEAVE. The issue of this thread obviously has no meaning to you lot, and you are merely looking to derive some sick pleasure from my passion for the issue. You're looking for a way to bait me in some way... Disgusting. What is this thread? delusional comedy chat? lmao |
Ratohnhaketon said: CherryLover said: You like something while recognizing what separates it from reality. Congratulations, you're just like the overwhelming majority of normal human beings. So what's the problem with misrepresentation of women or any demographic for that matter? I have never seen an anime that implies their portrayal of a character as the standard bearer for what people are really like in real life. The only person who does that is Miyazaki when he gets drunk and rambles about otaku and how anime was a mistake.I have already adequately explained my reasoning, if you hadn't noticed. Just because I like the show doesn't mean it has no level of misrepresentation. Of course there are going to be more extreme levels of it in other anime, which are for worse and perpetuating falsely characterized women to appease the fantasies of males. Lol well....I think Miyazaki's representation of what children are like in anime is pretty accurate. They do look and act like real children. But he's the only one.....well ok.....Mamo....er, the man who did Wolf Children, you know. |
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Ratohnhaketon said: CherryLover said: You like something while recognizing what separates it from reality. Congratulations, you're just like the overwhelming majority of normal human beings. So what's the problem with misrepresentation of women or any demographic for that matter? I have never seen an anime that implies their portrayal of a character as the standard bearer for what people are really like in real life. The only person who does that is Miyazaki when he gets drunk and rambles about otaku and how anime was a mistake.I have already adequately explained my reasoning, if you hadn't noticed. Just because I like the show doesn't mean it has no level of misrepresentation. Of course there are going to be more extreme levels of it in other anime, which are for worse and perpetuating falsely characterized women to appease the fantasies of males. blasphemy Rotohn-kun didn't i tell you, only cherry sama can like moe anime for other aspect, if we, the filthy male pig watch and like the same thing, it's obvious that we like it because of meoblob. |
CherryLover said: But cherry, if view thing as whole don't you think this place has no meaning to you too? just thinking, no hard feeling ^_^@Spooky_E @Zanzegan @Xillya- That's three clear troll accounts on this thread. If you think this is delusional, then LEAVE. The issue of this thread obviously has no meaning to you lot, and you are merely looking to derive some sick pleasure from my passion for the issue. You're looking for a way to bait me in some way... Disgusting. |
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