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Sep 5, 2016 1:01 AM
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THIS IS A MANGA ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS ANYTHING BEYOND THIS CHAPTER.
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500 Chapters! Congrats to Mashima-sensei! Lovely cover spread. :)

A lot going on this week with several characters, which makes sense for a milestone chapter. I suppose most significant is Juvia's fate. Glad to see she's alright, and so soon! Unfortunately my Strauss Siblings are in a bind at the moment, plus Sabertooth and everyone else. Natsu stomping Neinhart while Dimaria still out for blood, this won't end well with Brandish. And Gray's a big concern too after stomping Invel and his armor, now that he's learned Natsu is END. Things are heating(heh) up!
Sep 5, 2016 3:04 AM
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Not as exciting as the last Fairy Tail milestone. The only thing Mashima COULD do was reveal END to Gray.
Sep 5, 2016 3:32 AM
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Ehh... I can't even.. I don't even..

I SINCERELY think this arc would've been better if the Spriggans were never there.
Sep 5, 2016 3:46 AM
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I can't stand tumblr in general.. It's mostly shit but the fanbase of FT is the most cringeworthy fans I've seen yet.. Over the top dramatic. It's like they have only now been exposed to Mashima's writing. Lol we knew Juvia would be safe

This is just.. Im not mad or disappointed anymore I'm numb to it.. The thing is when Mashima actually plans his shit or writes tragic shit he always tends to be more into it even if he messes up.. Tartaros by no means was the perfect arc a lot of FT fans like to believe but damn it was action packed emotional and engaging.. Even when there were flaws I didn't think much of it(except Erza's bullshit.. Take that crap away it would've topped Phantom Lord for me) because it kept my interest. And Hiro barely death baited. Only case I remember was Wendy.

Sabertooth getting embarrased again lol

2/5 Hiro cut the Spriggans from existence it's quite clear they are screwing you right now
Sep 5, 2016 4:24 AM
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Ehh... I can't even.. I don't even..

I SINCERELY think this arc would've been better if the Spriggans were never there.


Acnologia is the only decent villain left this manga has.
Sep 5, 2016 4:24 AM
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Not as exciting as the last Fairy Tail milestone. The only thing Mashima COULD do was reveal END to Gray.


By far the crappiest milestone.
Sep 5, 2016 4:29 AM
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And surprise surprise, Juvia is alive. Why were people sad about that last chapter? I don't get why Mashima is using this cheap drama act... The only good thing this chaper was Gray learning about who END is. Fairy Tail remains a fanservice series, where Mashima doesn't care about his writting and just wants to please his readers with forced pairings, fanservice, emotions, the art is nice.
Sep 5, 2016 4:38 AM
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metsujin said:
And surprise surprise, Juvia is alive. Why were people sad about that last chapter? I don't get why Mashima is using this cheap drama act... The only good thing this chaper was Gray learning about who END is. Fairy Tail remains a fanservice series, where Mashima doesn't care about his writting and just wants to please his readers with forced pairings, fanservice, emotions, the art is nice.


If there's one thing Hiro has always done top notch is his artwork and detail..if only his writing matches his art.

I seriously wonder if he or any mangaka with a long series actually plans ahead instead of trying memorize and makes things up as they go along.
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Trentor11 said:
metsujin said:
And surprise surprise, Juvia is alive. Why were people sad about that last chapter? I don't get why Mashima is using this cheap drama act... The only good thing this chaper was Gray learning about who END is. Fairy Tail remains a fanservice series, where Mashima doesn't care about his writting and just wants to please his readers with forced pairings, fanservice, emotions, the art is nice.


If there's one thing Hiro has always done top notch is his artwork and detail..if only his writing matches his art.

I seriously wonder if he or any mangaka with a long series actually plans ahead instead of trying memorize and makes things up as they go along.


I do think he plans ahead some things, while other times he hints at something, only to drop it later, for example in the GMG arc Arcadios had a villain vibe to him, and it almost felt like he would be on Zeref's side, but he wasn't. The stuff with the dragons, Natsu and the others, Layla, the big mysteries if you will, I do thing those were thought out, and he did a good job with them, Do mangaka plan ahead? Some do, but Mashima is incosistent, same with Kishimoto (there are probably more mangaka who don't plan everything, Kishi is the one I mentioned, because he himself said so in a interview).
Sep 5, 2016 4:50 AM

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Puff Juvia is alive. who would guess? :DDDD

That Gary punch was awesome though. ;)
"The future is always blank. Only your willpower can leave footsteps there."

"Ruling over death means ruling over life. Death is the climax of life. To have the best death, you must honor life."
Sep 5, 2016 4:51 AM
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YAY! Juvia is Alive! In your face to those who WANTED (or expected) her death for plots sakes! Couldn't care at the moment of other's claims on how "bad" the plot is! I didn't hear this much of complaints during Naruto War or Whitebeard War!
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Congrats Mashima Sensei on the 500th chapter. Lovely colour page.

Gray destroyed Invel. Not even his Ice armor was enough.
Well Juvia is alive & well. Thanks Wendy.

Gray finally knows Natsu is E.N.D
"I’ve set myself to become the King of the Pirates…and if I die trying…then at least I tried!" Monkey D. Luffy (One Piece)

Sep 5, 2016 4:54 AM

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We all lost the bet!!! It only took 1 chapter!!!
Next time someone *dies* , Hiro will revive him in 1 panel !!!
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Geekwoglasses said:
TheGrandSage23 said:
Ehh... I can't even.. I don't even..

I SINCERELY think this arc would've been better if the Spriggans were never there.


Acnologia is the only decent villain left this manga has.

just wait till they take him out with loli fanservice and a little bit of friendship !
Sep 5, 2016 5:00 AM
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Why do people still think a "death" will stick? Seriously, are people just that ignorant? Mashima could "kill" and revive a character every chapter and FT fans would still be shedding tears (😂😂).
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We all lost the bet!!! It only took 1 chapter!!!
Next time someone *dies* , Hiro will revive him in 1 panel !!!


I think Happy fits that description already.
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That secret technique.... CLOSED EYES !!

OP AS HELL !!!


Well this chapter was kinda okish thx to Gray .

I liked when he started swearing against invel :D

I wonder how will gray think about E.N.D now ....
GEE HEE !
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Well that was a underwhelming chapter for the 500th chapter milestone. Highlight of the chapter was the last page revealing to Gray who E.N.D was.
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*sigh* When will Mashima learn...

2/5
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I couldn't be happier that Juvia is alive and I really don't care about the hate. There will always be people who complain, if you don't like it just stop reading it!
To the chapter now, I think it was really good and we can anticipate some good battles, Dimaria vs Brandish will be fierce! Gray completely annihilated Invel (the power of emotions is probably immeasurable) He didn't let darkness consume him too, he wanted to avenge Juvia.
I still believe that Juvia won't find Gray till later, when the Gray vs Natsu happen. He will have the darkness consume him and then Juvia will stop him and show him that END isn't responsible for all the losses in his life.
Natsu was fierce too and I can't wait to fight what's the connection between Erza and Eileen. Probably mother and daughter but why the hate. I don't know how things will turn out but now Mavis is probably safe. I don't think Eileen managed to get Fairy Heart in time. We'll see about that, hopefully Mavis is fine and we'll see a counterattack against Eileen of maybe Zeref!
PS: Mashima actually didn't kill Juvia off, he gave as a bait and we actually believed it. He just made her lose consciousness due to immense blood loss and this is totally plausible. She didn't harm her heart, she pierced her ribs as well so she COULD HAVE DIED from blood loss if Wendy hadn't found her. Mahima made the chapter overly dramatic to lure the readers to the all fake death thing. That's what Gray believed that she died because he didn't even check her pulse, he just held her close. If Gajeel's and Mirajane's "deaths" hadn't happened it could have more impact as a scene, the way Juvia is saved but that doesn't mean it's a lame way or she should stay dead. Just enjoy the damn thing for what it is.
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there you go Juvia is still alive, im glad she is though lol
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Congrats Mashima Sensei on the 500th chapter. Lovely colour page.

yea we need more dem cover colour page

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*sigh* When will Mashima learn...

2/5


what's wrong xd? not enough nakama power

Gray knows natsu is END



who do u think will win?


Sep 5, 2016 5:31 AM
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Ok, Juvia is back, I saw that coming.

But finally, we got revelation of END identity to Fairy Tail members. What is Grey gonna do? I dont really think that he is gonna kill Natsu.
Sep 5, 2016 5:37 AM

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Happy 500 chapters Hiro! As stated on that page itself, hopefully the series popularity will keep this from being the last arc and you have bigger plans in place for the future. Gray Vs. Natsu will definitely be a battle in the future, but as to if it will happen this arc or not is a different story. Really enjoyed the color cover showing off the cast and having extra pages. I was kinda hoping to hear more about the anime but they're keeping it under wraps pretty hard, maybe until this arc ends?
Sep 5, 2016 5:40 AM

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@frostmourn : Guess what, the people who bashed you can now rejoice :/.

The pros of this chapter :

1) Secret Art : Closing my eyes (it was a bit funny)
2) Gray's rage.
3) I like that it's literally stated that NLF does exist in this manga. Now it'll put the NLF debates in power-ranking forums/places to rest.

Cons :
1) Brandish pls. Spriggan hype is a laughable matter now. Your entire speech is bullshit.
2) Spriggans again not causing any sort of tension or impact whatsoever
3) Invel vs Gray leaned more towards the bad side for me
4) Neinhart in general and his one-shot.
5) Juvia's fake 'death'. At least it made sense that Carla was able to predict it and Wendy came in time. With Gajeel and Mirajane, it was completely illogical.

3/10

Also something I noticed, Neinhart seemed to have the same black eyes as Serena when he went against the four GoI. Could Serena have been enchanted by Irene too?
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I have to say, Jacob is probably my favourite from the 12 lol. He just cracks me up. (yaaaaay) looking forward to seeing the truth of END hit everyone else too. Well and Gray as we only saw it on the last page.

You were basically asking for that beating Invel XD.
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Well this was an awesome chapter, yes it could have been better, we almost found out Erza's connection to Irene, if that happened, this would be the perfect milestone chapter oh well.

Looks like Brandish has no ill will for what Mest did, she doesn't Lucy, Natsu, and Happy responsible for that, that is for sure, she is still on Alvarez's side at least at that moment probably not by the end of the chapter and not by choice, but she is on Alvarez simply out of loyalty and not anger which is a positive I guess.

Though Demaria is not happy about that, come on she just wants to spare three people, you can kill everyone else, that is a fair deal no Demaria and Neinhart to be so unreasonable. Though Natsu being one of them, perhaps he has to die in their eyes.

So Fire and Ice, is Natsu and Gray not fighting, but showcased back to back, Natsu's words and Gray's action. And Inval you created this monster, what did you expect? You want to be Dr. Frakenstein, deal with the consequences.

And Brandish I think as of now is not on Alvarez's side, at Neinhart attacks her I guess she is kicked out. I don't know if Erza is going to show up to fight this guy, or will Natsu take care of him himself.

So after defeat Inval reveals Natsu is E.N.D., just me or this reminds you a lot of Meliodas vs Ban with Inval being a one man goddess clan trying to steer the pot and blaming Natsu for all of Gray's problems. And Juvia is alive what a shock, and I predicted and looks like I am going to be right, the reveal that she is alive to Gray will be what stops the Natsu and Gray fight. They are still going to fight, but it will conclude when Juvia shows up and Gray she is alive and that will knock Gray back to his senses.

I am sure a lot of people are mad Juvia is alive, because people need to die for a series to be great, if so go read Attack On Titan if that is your cup of tea. I prefer a series when characters don't die all the time, makes it easier to get invested in them. Though I am on board on Makarov dying for story purposes and Mest dying because he deserves it.

Next chapter, looks like no Natsu vs Gray, looks like it will be Brandish vs Demaria, we might find out their backstory on how they know each other and we their relationship is so complex. I would love it if it turns out Demaria had no requited crush on Brandish and that is why she is so jaded. I know we have Kyouka and Seilah, it would be nice to have some human gay and lesbian representation, though Kagura and maybe even Minerva have some feelings for Erza, but know who Erza has feelings for, though they could all be bi.
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One more thing I'd like to add to my post is that this was a milestone chapter, so I was expecting more but then this arc has been underwhelming so far so I'm not surprised.

Relevant :

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It's chapters like these that give this series such a terrible name.

How the fuck did Gray not realise Juvia was still alive? Why did the ice chain break while they were both alive? I knew Juvia was coming back somehow but that was even worse than I imagined.

Natsu stuff was complete shit. More nakama power nonsense.

Gray fight was pretty bad as well which is dissapointing considering how good most of his fights are.

The only decent part was the ending.
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c'mon that was the lamest revival ever!!!
Gray's part was great, Natsu's was meh, Juvia's was "this shit again?" and the ending was ok


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Hold on a second.

Even Juvia coming back didn't make sense. Ice Lock was only supposed to break when a person died so she was supposed to have died yet Wendy was able to heal her, instead of it having to be a revival.

4.5/10 now -_-
Sep 5, 2016 6:39 AM
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gray become so strong. lul.
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Hold on a second.

Even Juvia coming back didn't make sense. Ice Lock was only supposed to break when a person died so she was supposed to have died yet Wendy was able to heal her, instead of it having to be a revival.

Well, nothing really makes sense. I mean, in this chapter, Invel's special ice armor or whatever was supposed to freeze everything; no exceptions. And just look what happened. Seriously...
Oh, well. At least Juvia's alive. I'd like to see Gray's reaction when he sees her again. Oh wait, he's probably going to be busy fighting Natsu then.
Also, can someone remind me exactly why Gray hates E.N.D. so much? I've been trying hard to remember but I just can't. Why does he want revenge?
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Congrats for the 500th chapter Mashima,but it was completely underwhelming.How did the locks break if Juvia had just passed out?We already knew she wouldn't stay dead and revived somehow,but that's ridiculous.Gray vs Invel was good,Gray used the same trick during Sun Village arc against Doriate with ice devil magic back then.Natsu vs Neinhart was plain stupid another one-shot with nakama speech.At least now Gray knows END's true identity.
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gh... just end this manga already, ... fairy tail's only "quality" now is fanservice shows... that's what it came to.. story , chars, everything has became pukeable.

stupid frienship powers over all - totally boring conflicts
juvia alive - ofc, didnt expect anything else, even thou I liked Juvia, Hiro just made her bland for me too, I'd prefer she stayed dead.
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And there you go... Sigh

Seeing Gray wrecking Invel was good BUT!!!

Juvias back! after about only a chapter?!! Alright I saw this coming but Seriously?????? MASHIMA! you better have good reason for this! ugh I don't know what to feel anymore!

Honestly I don't really think she died last chapter. The only question is what about the Icelock?
Either Gray died for a second breaking the chain then Juvia saved her through Blood transfusion magic (But can Blood Transfusion magic be able to save a dead person? hmm IDK really)
OR Invel undid the spell himself because he thinks it's all pointless! they will both die anyway... probably.

anyway Gray knows who END isssss...
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500 chapters... noice.

Shingeki no Brandish having ass. Huh, I was expecting Juvia to be "dead" at least for a few more chapters. And being the Dimaira stan that I am, it's nice to see her get screen time
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Juvia's "revival" put right after her apparent "death"? Did Mashima receive petition or something?
Joking aside, Gray knowing END is Natsu is the highest note on this chapter.
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I liked the convo between Natsu and Brandish, especially the part when Brandish said she wouldn't betray her country (I would seriously hate a heel-face turn on her part)... but the rest was shit...

Like the greatly hyped Invel vs Gray ends up being just making the Invel a punching bag for the whole fight, next we go to a supposedly stronger Historia only for him to be defeated by a one shot from Natsu, then we find out Juvia still lives even though the chain was broken, which should only break if one of them died...

Really weak chapter
Sep 5, 2016 6:58 AM

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Lmfao it only took one chapter to revive her.

Well shit, Invel was underwhelming as fuck. He (outside of August and Eileen which Hiro seems to be hyping the fuck out of) was the only Spriggan I was geninunely interested him. He actually took initiative and seemed to be Zeref's right hand man or somethin'.

He got beat down.

2/5
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c'mon that was the lamest revival ever!!!
Gray's part was great, Natsu's was meh, Juvia's was "this shit again?" and the ending was ok


HAHAHA I Juvia's reaction herself was probably "meh, this shit again"

But then again, I understand why people look down on Fairy Tail and it's extremely predictable and corny- I still gotta say FT's still (one of) my fav animes out there. IDK man I guess some of us are just too attached to the characters. Not to mention Mashima Kyun himself cos he still can't kill his main/supporting characters without bringing it back.

7/10
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Juvia should have stayed dead, then Gray would have had one more reason to destroy E.N.D now that he knows who it is. Once he finds out Juvia is alive, he'll be "relieved" and it will all be boring again and he might even be considering whether or not to kill Natsu.
Overall it was a good chapter, I'm just happy Gray knows E.N.D's identity, I wonder when Natsu himself will find out.
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Gray Fullbuster, The new one punch man XD

Srsly that fight was amazing, sheer destruction, Invel couldn't do jack shit.

The nutsu and brandiah thing was just irrelevant and didn't care much for it.

Gray finally knows who end is. One thing I feel mashima should have build on is the character of END, because I just don't feel Gray has much of a reason to hate END other than his father wanting him gone. Even with the last part when invel says you'll always be on terrors as long as END is alive, or something like that. I'm I forgetting something? Or is it just because END founded the demon guild?

Next chapter? Honestly I've been imagining this moment for months now and this isn't really how I imagined to. Gray has found out in a fairly calm moment as nutsu's not doing much fighting. In my head I thought gray would find out during a intense time like nutsu's battle with alkganolgia (forgive me for terrible spelling). I fee next chapter gray is just going to strict towards nutsu.
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Just when you thought a war arc worse than Naruto and Bleach's couldn't be made.
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Gray fight was pretty bad as well which is dissapointing considering how good most of his fights are.

The only decent part was the ending.


Yes I do agree agree that gray's fights involve more strategy which is why his fights are serperior to many others like nutsu's😒. But I think the shear otter destruction of Invel really helped convey gray's building rage that Invel mentioned and how the "ultimate warrior" as Invel named gray is slowly emerging. This is someone who will defeat END, the strongest demon. Gray destroying Invel in a 1 sided battle helps depict what gray's power. Plus atleast it wasn't a stupid one shot from stupid nutsu
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Nice to see the series reaching 500th chapter.

Not surprised that Juvia survived. I do like how Gray fought with rage though as it shows how much he cares about her. In the meantime, I wonder how Gray will respond to that revelation about Natsu? Inevitable fight in the future of this arc?
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Just when you thought a war arc worse than Naruto and Bleach's couldn't be made.


Naruto's is still worse IMO :/. Bleach was fine.
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Not even surprised by Juvia's comeback, except for the fact that it took 1 chapter. Damn.

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Well shit, Invel was underwhelming as fuck. He (outside of August and Eileen which Hiro seems to be hyping the fuck out of) was the only Spriggan I was geninunely interested him. He actually took initiative and seemed to be Zeref's right hand man or somethin'.

He got beat down.

2/5


This ^

Thought Invel would be another enemy worth keeping an eye on since he was introduced, but oh well. He & his armor literally got overpowered in 3 pages.

RIP Neinhart as well. Does that mean the other revived Spriggans are also done for ?

Only good thing was Invel revealing E.N.D.'s identity to Gray, but terrible chapter overall.
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....Not going to rise the Hype, tough I am happy that those of the 12 that are still alive are dominating their fights....

Invel...biggest mistake he now did was Not running his Ass off and Away when he saw Pissed off Gray....This will be the time when Gray breaks the rule of the Not Killing....and Me thinks that Miss Time Knight of the 12 is going to face Brandi for this betrayal...


aaaaand The Cat is out of the Bag.....Gray knows who Natsu is..or was.....Oh Shit Natsu Versus Gray....finally going to Build up and commence soon.
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That's it. I can comfirm 101% that's no one can die in this manga. Change this manga name to Fairy Immortal - Everyone can become Saitama just with Friendship

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