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| 20 years and still lost, stayed up just for this. So fucking disappointed. He better fucking beat the island masters in Alola and at least claim a tournament trophy. Waited for 20 years and still no win; looks like 20 more years it is. So pissed right now. Childhood dream rekt |
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| Pretty lame battle compared to rest of fights in XYZ. Wish there was more creative uses of moves and strategies. Pokemon Contests actually had some cool ways to use moves. Interesting they used rest of episode to start up zygarde stuff, they really should have focused on fight people have been waiting for and not rush it. |
| I'm so fucking done right now, Alain didn't deserve to win. |
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| I don't know why pokemons creative want ash to lose. It's not going to hurt his image or anything... if anything losing this hurts it more |
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| People seem to be misunderstanding that the Kalos League is the B-plot. The Team Flare Arc is the A-Plot and is what they've wanted to focus on more. Even though it is disappointing that Ash lost, he put up a great fight and came 2nd. |
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| *sigh* My heart aches but atleast he lost as a badass and not a retard *cough* Black&White cough* |
ETX said: People seem to be misunderstanding that the Kalos League is the B-plot. The Team Flare Arc is the A-Plot and is what they've wanted to focus on more. Even though it is disappointing that Ash lost, he put up a great fight and came 2nd. then why even bother with Pokemon XY with its 93 episodes if they just wanted us to focus on Team Flare?? they should've just get on with it from the start if that's what they wanted.. :/ |
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| Ash losing yet another final that should've been his. God bless the creators of the anime. Shit/10. |
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eien_kiseki said: They're just catering to younger people who never watched S1-15 of pokemon. Yeah, that's kinda the point. In the end the Pokemon anime is just an extended commercial to sell the new hot Pokemon. Oh and calling Ash a loser... You do realize he has won way more than he lost right ? Anyway, I'm still betting on a fourth encounter to Heelface turn Alain to the righteous side. Charizard needs to lose at least once in XYZ, propping him up by winning the league for that encounter is the only reason why it would make sense. Doesnt make it less heartbreaking though. Especially considering what @Sandyboi reported in the previous thread. Cant believe that they let the guy who wrote that universally disliked battle: Ash V Cameron, Unova League write ANOTHER bullshit battle. At this point that guy might be the most vexed person in the Pokemon staff. |
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| Salty because: - 20 years of Pokemon hype - no gym next region, so this might be the last League hype - weeks of hype cuz Ash's greninja made a great appearance in the pokemon league and beat Shota (even the official youtube PokemonJP channel hype about this) - great animation/art - character development - Great OST & OP songs - He lost to Shota, he won in a rematch. He lost twice to Alain so he gotta win now right?! Why are you giving me all this just to let me down??! Brock was right the entire time Even Japanese fans are disappointed, the preview for next episode on the Japanese youtube channel: 547 likes, 25.845 dislikes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkDBCBiFsMs |
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| The hatred this is receiving... I can see this season sinking drastically in the anime ranking for the future. What I don't get is what's the point of making Ash lose 6 leagues in a row. |
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Floyd_ said: It went up during the Kalos league from 7.77 to 7.91 and after the episode of today it dropped to 7.84The hatred this is receiving... I can see this season sinking drastically in the anime ranking for the future. |
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Hyack said: It went up during the Kalos league from 7.77 to 7.91 and after the episode of today it dropped to 7.84 Well, it was the best trolling the writer could ever do, talking about this league lol |
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Floyd_ said: The hatred this is receiving... I can see this season sinking drastically in the anime ranking for the future. What I don't get is what's the point of making Ash lose 6 leagues in a row. Well to be fair here. He technically hasnt lost 6 in a row, he just hasnt won any of them. Anyway, the reason is the same why the big, classical Superheroes always stay relative the same. Its safer to build up again using the same foundation that worked instead of building further and higher towards new heights. Status quo beats the unknown in the mind of corporations. @TheLittleRedHero ''ctually someone said that the one who wrote this battle, wrote Ash vs Cameron battle? If so then that makes sense... Then it's not really the fault of the main writers then? I'm confused on that.'' The guy who wrote this ep has been on board since Kanto. Pikachu's Goodbye was his debut episode according to Bulbapedia. Pokemon got multiple writers and animation teams, only way to keep up the pace that being a weekly show bring to the table. Side note: I keep seeing people call Ash thrash and other related terms like that. Can someone actually explain why they think that instead of the original ''he keeps losing leagues'' You know, the competition filled with the best trainers around. |
PunkbeetleAug 18, 2016 5:46 PM
| Spirits of the light! Wielders of the great power that shines far and wide upon the lands of our world... In my hour of need, grant me the light to banish evil! |
Punkbeetle said: Well to be fair here. He technically hasnt lost 6 in a row, he just hasnt won any of them. Anyway, the reason is the same why the big, classical Superheroes always stay relative the same. Its safer to build up again using the same foundation that worked instead of building further and higher towards new heights. Status quo beats the unknown in the mind of corporations. I meant in the sense of the times he's been participating on the leagues. He lost them, one by one. |
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KK_VANTAS said: Punkbeetle said: Well to be fair here. He technically hasnt lost 6 in a row, he just hasnt won any of them. Anyway, the reason is the same why the big, classical Superheroes always stay relative the same. Its safer to build up again using the same foundation that worked instead of building further and higher towards new heights. Status quo beats the unknown in the mind of corporations. man, if they changed the protagonist like they do in the manga... well an man can only dream... And by doing so create a Digimon scenario ? Seriously, how many people cared beyond Tamers ? Heck, they even brought an Agumon back for the 5th show. Whether you like it or not Ash and Pikachu are the faces of Pokemon and by being familiar transfer people over every gen because of the investment that has already been placed into said characters. As long as they still give off that feeling and get results they wont be replaced. Same reason why Spider-man and Batman always return to their roots every few years. Familiarity sells. Besides, if you want variation you got Adventure just as you mentioned. Pokemon caters in almost every taste across the Entertainment spectrum. Sick of Ash ? Read Adventure. Want something else ? Pick up Reburst. Want to be a Pokemon ? Mystery Dungeon. |
| Spirits of the light! Wielders of the great power that shines far and wide upon the lands of our world... In my hour of need, grant me the light to banish evil! |
| What happen after the battle: Ash: "You did well Gekkouga" Gekkouga: "I'm sorry". Ash: "Don't apologize! I'm thankful to all of you guys." What Ash really meant: Gekkouga: "I'm sorry". Ash: "Don't feel sorry I'm going to replace you all anyways." |
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| Guys, trust in the based director that finally made a pokemon anime that is actually enjoyable to watch. Based director will make it up to us by making Ash win the next league in a more epic way. Probably by bringing back all his old pokemon to win this time. Let's be real. If Ash won this league everyone would've made fun of him for just the fact that he got carried by memefrog. We need a REAL league win which satisfies everyone from gen 1 - 6 which is by using all his old pokemon from all his past. Don't lose hope guys. We watched this show for 15 + years now. Another 4 + years will not hurt if the win is worth it all. Just imagine a league win where Ash flashbacks to all his previous journey and hold the league trophy. God damn would that be more satisfying than just memefrog/pikachu hard carrying everything and winning it all. Not to mention the fact that the rival he lost to is not even happy about winning the league. It would be much better if Ash won the league against a rival like Paul or Gary. (To be honest I would've been okay with him winning this gen but its more satisfying if Ash won by using his old pokemon in the league just like DP league) |
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| This season dropped 0.7 in score since this episode aired. The salt is too damn real, hahaha |
Hyuse said: (To be honest I would've been okay with him winning this gen but its more satisfying if Ash won by using his old pokemon in the league just like DP league) It's funny because when he selected from old generations, he chose Pokemon like Corphish and Torkoal against Darkrai lol But that was back then, now he might be more serious when selecting them if he ever has another chance to be something |
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| I was so happy coming back into the Pokémon Anime after BW and it was so good, but now I've literally lost all my interest. Do they actually want to make a good show? I just recovered from the Sinnoh Ass pull and now this? I was honestly on the verge of tears as Pokémon means so much to me. My score just dropped from 10 to 6-7, what the people making this shit must understand is that we want to see Ash win the F***** league not be the "hero" of Kalos. Funny thing is everyone are saying that they hate Ash but the fact is that we all care so much about him winning cause we have watched him since we were kids and want to see him succeed. Yea and that was the end of our one of the most if not the most anticipated Pokémon episode in the history of the show. |
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| wow f out of here ... they really changed the ending of this episode when they took the 3 week hiatus .... Even Team Rocket thought the kid was gonna win and they said they were disappointed in pikachu for not fighting full power lol hyping fans for this episode only to get disappointment.... I guarantee you ash is going to end up in some league were he has to battle all his rivals to get to the top Gary, ritchie,harrison, Shota, Alan, paul, barry, tobias ... wouldnt be surprised if red makes a appearance |
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| Is he ever gonna won in Kalos League? Is there going to be another season? |
Chandela said: This season dropped 0.7 in score since this episode aired. The salt is too damn real, hahaha Just imagine the score if Ash actually won. Most def an 8-9 |
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Shoryuuken said: Chandela said: This season dropped 0.7 in score since this episode aired. The salt is too damn real, hahaha Just imagine the score if Ash actually won. Most def an 8-9 I could most definitely see that with the apparent hype that surrounded this championship match. |
| Wow, the amount of hate for this episode! :O Like, I kinda get it since I wanted Satoshi (Ash) to win as well but also, the series will continue and therefore he must travel to the next region and as a champion I don't think he could've done that (also, he would be able to beat everyone from the start and that's not a good way to progress in the series since you have to feel the struggle ;D ) In any case I'm quite happy with this episode, the animation was great and Satoshi made it pretty far (unlike in few other leagues) and also I'm curious about what's Team Flare's goal and what happens to that girl's Harimaron ^^ |
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| Pokémon anime logic: Greninja gets hit by leaf storm *acts like nothing happened* Greninja gets hit by blast burn *faints* |
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| Isn't it just funny that Ash lost the league because of a Charizard TWICE? lmfao It went from the most loved pokemon to the most hated pokémon in less then 24 hours. |
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| I'm a bit disappointed in this battle honestly... I prefer the battle between Unfezant and Talonflame in the previous episode... btw what happen to that water shuriken?? it like a move from Dragonball lol... |
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Shoryuuken said: Isn't it just funny that Ash lost the league because of a Charizard TWICE? lmfao It went from the most loved pokemon to the most hated pokémon in less then 24 hours. Hahaha, I remembered the time when his OWN Charizard was duked out by Harrison's Blaziken, that was so much lol. But seriously, for 19 years, everyone of us just wanted Ash to win a league, let's be honest. What was that Mega Rasen Water Shuriken for? (Disappointment, that's what it is for) Ash-Greninja took 2 Leaf Storms from a Mega-Sceptile yet fainted from a Blast Burn not even affected by Mega Charizard X's Tough Claws?!! On top of that, Alain's Charizard just shrugged off not 1, but 2 SUPER-EFFECTIVE Thunderbolts on non-Mega Evolution Forme from Ash's Pikachu gone Pseudo-Legend Slayer mode. ETX said: People seem to be misunderstanding that the Kalos League is the B-plot. The Team Flare Arc is the A-Plot and is what they've wanted to focus on more. Even though it is disappointing that Ash lost, he put up a great fight and came 2nd. So, 19 years of watching every League in the Anime just to watch Ash battle Team Flare? You have one great sense of humor. |
Hachinozen said: Hahaha, I remembered the time when his OWN Charizard was duked out by Harrison's Blaziken, that was so much lol. But seriously, for 19 years, everyone of us just wanted Ash to win a league, let's be honest. What was that Mega Rasen Water Shuriken for? (Disappointment, that's what it is for) Ash-Greninja took 2 Leaf Storms from a Mega-Sceptile yet fainted from a Blast Burn not even affected by Mega Charizard X's Tough Claws?!! On top of that, Alain's Charizard just shrugged off not 1, but 2 SUPER-EFFECTIVE Thunderbolts on non-Mega Evolution Forme from Ash's Pikachu gone Pseudo-Legend Slayer mode. Because of this episode, I now realize that even if Ash has a full-Legendary Pokemon Team, he will still lose in the League even if the opponent has a party full of Magikarp.. pokemon dream has ended for me, I won't ever hope for Ash's victory again.. it's just a fool's errand at this point.. |
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