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May 23, 2016 12:34 PM

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second half of the episode was really hard to get through. like, aku no hana levels of cringe.

i really hope puck isn't a familiar of the witch. he's one of my favorite characters :(
May 23, 2016 12:41 PM

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I lol'd when Subaru said this



and the OP started :-)


And now some theory crafting time :-P

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Niyari said:
second half of the episode was really hard to get through. like, aku no hana levels of cringe.

i really hope puck isn't a familiar of the witch. he's one of my favorite characters :(


Puck best pet 2016, Emilia best girl 2016. ;)


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I LOVED this episode!

The writers definitely knew what they were doing. Subaru has been broken down by his deaths throughout the last episodes, you can see how he loses his humor and charisma. He wants to stay alive yet help everyone, even though it risks his death, to the point where he can no longer put up the act. Kobayashi, Yuusuke (the voice actor for Subaru) also deserves a mention for his phenomenal job in the break down scene where you could feel the emotion Subaru had.

The characters truly depict human emotions, how in a certain situation the way someone would break down. The paranoia and constant fear, are shown with his twitches, he tries to put a mask on, in fear of death. The lap pillow scene was the most important in this episode because it acted as a "valve" both figuratively and literally :P. He was able to release his feelings in order to continue. I honestly believe if Rem didn't see this, he would have been killed that night.

Overall, I'm loving this show and I hope to be able to give it a 9 and a full review by episode 24!
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Those bonding moments with Beatrice, the maids and specially Emilia were so nice, the lap pillow!!!

Can someone DM me if Subaru dies again in this arc and these moments will be forgotten or if he succeds in this life?

Thanks!
May 23, 2016 1:31 PM

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thiagopv said:
Can someone DM me if Subaru dies again in this arc and these moments will be forgotten or if he succeds in this life?

Thanks!
I'll do it here.


SHIIIIIT I clicked TT__TT
May 23, 2016 1:36 PM

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thiagopv said:
Can someone DM me if Subaru dies again in this arc and these moments will be forgotten or if he succeds in this life?

Thanks!
I'll do it here.


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i think most of us think the same here X)


Beako really is a lot like Hachikuji too, even the way they talk is similar


I bet they're gonna be one heck of a duo *-*

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SHIIIIIT I clicked TT__TT
Upps, I guess I should delete it then.. sorry^^

Edit: Oh well, it won't help if I'm quoted. lol


it will be erased in my quotation too ^^'
May 23, 2016 2:03 PM

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One note I think the Ram's commentary on Subaru was a tad different than the last time. I have to go check since it's been a while.

But for now, boobs are here.



randelus said:
This ep made me completely fall in love with this anime, I honestly cried when subaru had his meltdown, the poor thing just let him rest already..... also emilia is an angel oh my god, bless her.
Now I really cant wait to see who's the cause of the curse. Also, the whole witch thing intrigues me so much. Really I think this is the anime I like the most this season aaahh


This,Kabaneri, and Netoge or the only things I'm enjoying this seasron. Rest is letdown trash TBH, at least from what I have watched already.
try watching sakamoto and my hero academia. They are great.
May 23, 2016 2:06 PM

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I still find it weird that he hasn't made mention of how he misses the real world or something like that, he just doesn't give a fuck.
That blue maid is such a cunt.
rem? How?
May 23, 2016 2:25 PM

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zal said:
This arc has been awful but it seems next 2 episodes could finally end this pain.
This episode Subaru has been even more annoying than usual, girls still stereotyped and the breakdown scene kinda cheap solution to his stress.

Probably should drop the show then man
It looks like it isn't for you
May 23, 2016 2:26 PM

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Finally the loop has been broken for now. Seems like he gained some trust from the sisters which was nice to see.
May 23, 2016 2:28 PM

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Yuzuryn said:
zal said:
This arc has been awful but it seems next 2 episodes could finally end this pain.
This episode Subaru has been even more annoying than usual, girls still stereotyped and the breakdown scene kinda cheap solution to his stress.

Probably should drop the show then man
It looks like it isn't for you
I will if I feel like it
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May 23, 2016 2:51 PM

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Ram and Rem had some really funny lines this episode.

They portraied Subaru's act in a very annoying way, which served the purpose well in the end.
May 23, 2016 3:00 PM

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Best lap pillow ever! After all the misery, that scene truly took me aback. Finally, something good happened to Subaru (not to mention the lead he discovered).

Of course, the episode wouldn't be complete without the maid sisters:

May 23, 2016 3:23 PM

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QWERTYFish25 said:
One note I think the Ram's commentary on Subaru was a tad different than the last time. I have to go check since it's been a while.

But for now, boobs are here.





This,Kabaneri, and Netoge or the only things I'm enjoying this seasron. Rest is letdown trash TBH, at least from what I have watched already.
try watching sakamoto and my hero academia. They are great.

Strongly agreed with Sakamoto
STRONNGLY Disagree with MHA. Might as well just rewatch Naruto for that fix.
May 23, 2016 3:26 PM

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I loved this episode a lot, showed some nice character development. I really hope Subaru doesn't die in this case because I really loved the progress he made with everyone (especially Emilia)
May 23, 2016 4:21 PM
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seemed to me she suspected but Puck told her more detail on his mental state

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Did Emilia actually know what Subaru went through? Could she actrually see his past or something, or was she sort of playing along?
May 23, 2016 4:49 PM
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seemed to me she suspected but Puck told her more detail on his mental state

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Did Emilia actually know what Subaru went through? Could she actrually see his past or something, or was she sort of playing along?


This sequence of images from the 4th episode:

[spoiler[/spoiler]













She should've been aware that he could've been under pressure, for being considered a suspect from the first day he joined them.

But she didn't think it was too serious before this episode. She then couldn't ignore it.

What Subaru did was overact. Due to how nervous he became...
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Fai said:
ttcchen said:
try watching sakamoto and my hero academia. They are great.

Strongly agreed with Sakamoto
STRONNGLY Disagree with MHA. Might as well just rewatch Naruto for that fix.
i remember you from MHA forum. I think the problem you have towards it is that you think it's too slow paced. 8 episodes in, and we've only been introduced to (finally) all the characters, and we got a glimpse of the antagonists in the end (not even the big boss yet!). From what has been shown so far, you think it's just a generic cliche shounen hero anime where it's hero vs villain and the heroes are always good and the villains are dumb as fuck. and there is no grey, only distinct black and white. Correct me if I'm wrong.
But this anime isn't like that. If you have the patience, keep watching it until season 2 (or read the manga). because 12 episodes aren't enough to show you the character development you seeked, nor how many shounen troupes this series has broken. This series is FAR from cliche. And is more than 1000 times better than shitty (in comparison) naruto.
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I'm guessing that the King had a romance with a beautiful elven woman (elves should be beautiful as a standard, but I felt the need to emphasize it)... His daughter then became involved in all the political stuff...after he disappeared
The king has no descendants, I believe. That's why there's the King selection.


Not quite. All of the direct descents died mysteriously from some disease that spreaded throughout the palace a year before Subaru arrived in this world.
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The king has no descendants, I believe. That's why there's the King selection.


Not quite. All of the direct descents died mysteriously from some disease a year before Subaru arrived in this world.


So it was only the insignia that acknowledged her, then. (As it did for Felt.)

Perhaps it's time to rewatch... (I had forgotten completely about Roswaal talking about an 'epidemic' having occurred in the castle...)

Obs.: The insignia is more specificaly, stated to be a 'touch stone' instead... Definitely rewatching sometime.
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iRels said:
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Not quite. All of the direct descents died mysteriously from some disease a year before Subaru arrived in this world.


So it was only the insignia that acknowledged her, then. (As it did for Felt.)

Perhaps it's time to rewatch... (I had forgotten completely about Roswaal talking about an 'epidemic' having occurred in the castle...)

Obs.: The insignia is more specificaly, stated to be a 'touch stone' instead... Definitely rewatching sometime.


I also point out that the King is also dead too. CR mistranslated him as "missing".
May 23, 2016 6:16 PM

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Such a good show. Easily the one I look forward to the most every week.

It just gets the strain and mental distress of Subaru perfectly. How someone would be so utterly strained and mentally exhausted after all he's been through and facing what's ahead. Good thing Emilia was there to help him just stop and relax, even for a few moments. Sometimes you do just need to vent and let it all out.

Best of luck to Subaru. Just clearing this situation this time around would be such a good thing for him. Able to take a few steps forward and check off another save point.
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Jagd84 said:
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The king has no descendants, I believe. That's why there's the King selection.

Not quite. All of the direct descents died mysteriously from some disease that spreaded throughout the palace a year before Subaru arrived in this world.
Yeah that's what I meant. The King has no (direct) descendants (left to become the heir of the throne because they all died out). That's why the kingdom has to select a new king.
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I hope the series keeps up the trend of the amazing arcs that they have. This arc got a little repetitive but i dont think it was that bad. I cant wait for the next episode
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I don't want this to ever end.

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Jagd84 said:


I also point out that the King is also dead too. CR mistranslated him as "missing".

Not a mistranslation.

The official version is that he is missing. But as Roswaal explains them "going missing" coincided with the plague so everyone is quite aware of the truth.

iRels said:

So it was only the insignia that acknowledged her, then. (snip)


Well fucking GREAT. Untagged spoilers.
May 24, 2016 1:21 AM

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snoo spoilers.. though they bound to happen sooner or later
May 24, 2016 1:28 AM

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Fai said:


The official version is that he is missing. But as Roswaal explains them "going missing" coincided with the plague so everyone is quite aware of the truth.


Actually it was a common phrase when royalty died to say they are "gone missing". So I give the translator the benefit to think that he applied this here. Besides it often happens that the author uses little historical elements like that although this is a very little one.
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The main character pisses me off a lot, especially in this episode. If this is their idea of realism and showing how that boy is afraid of another death, I don't want it. Seriously, the constant moaning and screaming at a girl who has no idea what's going on is ridiculous. These people don't know why you're acting like this, I don't see how you can start screaming at them about how afraid and so on you are, while you're crying and the whole mansion can hear you. Realism. That's not realism, that's "Look how annoying a character can behave and cry hysterically at people who didn't do anything. Look how he makes them think he's dumber than expected., while his purpose is the opposite."
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Fai said:
Jagd84 said:


I also point out that the King is also dead too. CR mistranslated him as "missing".

Not a mistranslation.

The official version is that he is missing. But as Roswaal explains them "going missing" coincided with the plague so everyone is quite aware of the truth.

iRels said:

So it was only the insignia that acknowledged her, then. (snip)


Well fucking GREAT. Untagged spoilers.


That's not a spoiler. You're wrong again.

Guess you've missed it, but people wondered why Reinhard took Felt away with a shocked expression. He grabbed the arm where she was holding the 'insignia'. Then in the next episode, it was explained that the 'insignia' is actually a 'touch stone', that acknowledges one as candidate for the throne or something.

It became an easy guess, then - but not a sure one. (I'm not a source reader.)

Just...rewatch. It wasn't done subtly.
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Again, its not stated in the story directly. We see reinhard grab Felt and next episode the insignia is explained as something that indicates you are acandidate for being a king. The uncertainty about Felt's story is one of things I enjoyed themost.

ANd wrong "Again"? I have yet to be wrong.

Fappa said:
Fai said:


The official version is that he is missing. But as Roswaal explains them "going missing" coincided with the plague so everyone is quite aware of the truth.


Actually it was a common phrase when royalty died to say they are "gone missing". So I give the translator the benefit to think that he applied this here. Besides it often happens that the author uses little historical elements like that although this is a very little one.

Tobe honest replacing"missing" with "dead" would destroy sense of that conversation.
How it is now:
- "They have gonne missing", "but everyone knows instead the truth they died from plague"
How it would be:
- "They died", "but everyone knows the truth - they died".

I Think the intent is quite clearly exactly what you are saying.
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Fai said:
Jagd84 said:


I also point out that the King is also dead too. CR mistranslated him as "missing".

Not a mistranslation.

The official version is that he is missing. But as Roswaal explains them "going missing" coincided with the plague so everyone is quite aware of the truth.


I was under impression that CR might meant it literally and missed the nuance of Roswaal was saying, but I guess I'll give them the benefit of a doubt that they caught the real meaning.
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Again, its not stated in the story directly. We see reinhard grab Felt and next episode the insignia is explained as something that indicates you are acandidate for being a king. The uncertainty about Felt's story is one of things I enjoyed themost.


By the way, nothing would've become of Felt if she weren't special somehow. She'd have kept living in the slums (as Reinhard wouldn't have reported her this time).

She'd have zero potential. Her story would've ended there. Why? Because this is a realistic show... But this is just me saying.
May 24, 2016 3:13 AM

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There is a scene where it looks like it's glowing. Just for the conversation.



That's foreshadowing at most. It is never directly stated in-show.

Jagd84 said:
Fai said:

Not a mistranslation.

The official version is that he is missing. But as Roswaal explains them "going missing" coincided with the plague so everyone is quite aware of the truth.


I was under impression that CR might meant it literally and missed the nuance of Roswaal was saying, but I guess I'll give them the benefit of a doubt that they caught the real meaning.

Yeah, here's the convos relating to it for context sake:

Subaru clearly catches on enough to see himself as a suspicious and latter on actually talks about them having died out.

It fits Roswaal's portrayal so far for him to be coy and diplomatic about the death of entire royal family and frankly "Hey our entire royalty died out" is NOT something a government will ever openly state as to not cause panic. Thus the king is missing new one is selected and then along the way "Oh well I guess he died since he is still missing".
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That's foreshadowing at most. It is never directly stated in-show.

[<- anime-only]
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Why is everyone so hotheaded? cant they just chill and talk this out lol. But seriously though the characters are so annoying. How many times have Subaru died again? I lost count already. He seriously sucks at this thing called staying alive. The last part when he said he loves them is so cheesy. I probably made an ugly cringing face when he said that.
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Why is everyone so hotheaded? cant they just chill and talk this out lol. But seriously though the characters are so annoying. How many times have Subaru died again? I lost count already. He seriously sucks at this thing called staying alive. The last part when he said he loves them is so cheesy. I probably made an ugly cringing face when he said that.


7 in total and guess what? He'll likely die more in the future for various reasons because that's part of premise of title. He's number of deaths really isn't important compared to circumstances behnd them anyway.

And who's being hotheaded here? Every single character except for Subaru (due to stress) was chill/normal.

@Fai, thanks for the images.
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@Jagd84 @iRels @Sometimes791 Episode 8 discussion derailed. LoL! Felt didn't even show up in Episode 8.

@Fai Maybe the King, not Satella summoned Subaru to the fantasy-like world. Weak clue: Episode 1A first minutes. There's one who wanted help, maybe from Subaru, and he looks like a male, not a female, not to mention that he looks like a human. (I'm an anime only and this is just my theory)

@Sometimes791 If you want a spoiler, click below. Yeah, from the official anime website itself!
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Fai said:


Tobe honest replacing"missing" with "dead" would destroy sense of that conversation.
How it is now:
- "They have gonne missing", "but everyone knows instead the truth they died from plague"
How it would be:
- "They died", "but everyone knows the truth - they died".

I Think the intent is quite clearly exactly what you are saying.



No, No. The original web novel makes it explicit that the king was dead and also he has been known to be dead OFFICIALLY and PUBLICLY for the last 6 months.

Roswaal: "王が御隠れになった同時期に" (At the same time when the king passed away)

And, the meaning of 御隠れ : 身分の高い人、また目上の人が死ぬこと (death of someone of high status/rank, or someone who is of higher status than the speaker him/herself). Thus Roswaal's statement is not anything like an indirect implication, but a direct, straight-forward statement of the king having been dead.

Lastly, "around same them that the king went into hiding" is a mistranslation. To be sure, The literal meaning of the Chinese character, 隠of 御隠れ is 'to hide". But as a Japanese dictionary shows, 御隠れ means death of someone of high status, a kind of conventional round-about phrase to mean death.

EDIT: Furthermore, Here is how the conversation really goes on in the anime.

Roswaal: After all, Lugunica's king is currently not present.

Subaru is surprised and concerned.

Roswaal: There is no need to be concerned. Everyone is quite aware of the reality.

Subaru: Really? I expected a "Now that you know my secret, I can't let you leave here alive" thing.

Roswaal: Around the same time that king went into hiding, an epidemic began spreading through the castle! The king and his children are the last line.

To sum up,

Roswaal: The king is dead!
Subaru: What?
Roswaal: Don't be concerned. Everybody knows it.
Subaru: Thank god. I expected to hear something like "Now You've heard the top secret so you can't leave alive" from you
Roswaal: And an epidemic was spread and it killed all of his children around the same time the king was dead. As a result, the king and his children were all exterminated (根絶やし nedayashi)

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@smoct_ai as Fappa said back a page ago:

Fappa said:
Fai said:


The official version is that he is missing. But as Roswaal explains them "going missing" coincided with the plague so everyone is quite aware of the truth.


Actually it was a common phrase when royalty died to say they are "gone missing". So I give the translator the benefit to think that he applied this here. Besides it often happens that the author uses little historical elements like that although this is a very little one.


"Missing" works in this context too because it's essentially saying the same thing in a more subtle or roundabout way. It fits more within the setting in terms of flavor test.
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Tobe honest replacing"missing" with "dead" would destroy sense of that conversation.
How it is now:
- "They have gonne missing", "but everyone knows instead the truth they died from plague"
How it would be:
- "They died", "but everyone knows the truth - they died".

I Think the intent is quite clearly exactly what you are saying.



No, No. The original web novel makes it explicit that the king was dead and also he has been known to be dead OFFICIALLY and PUBLICLY for the last 6 months.

Roswaal: "王が御隠れになった同時期に" (At the same time when the king passed away)

And, the meaning of 御隠れ : 身分の高い人、また目上の人が死ぬこと (death of someone of high status/rank, or someone who is of higher status than the speaker him/herself). Thus Roswaal's statement is not anything like an indirect implication, but a direct, straight-forward statement of the king having been dead.

Lastly, "around same them that the king went into hiding" is a mistranslation. To be sure, The literal meaning of the Chinese character, 隠of 御隠れ is 'to hide". But as a Japanese dictionary shows, 御隠れ means death of someone of high status, a kind of conventional round-about phrase to mean death.


Not everything has to be a direct translation. Most of cases direct translation is wooden crap.Adding flavor and characterization by taking liberties is good.

And this change fits both the setting and Roswaal's character. And it fits the tone of the rest of his dialogue in that scene.

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@Fai Maybe the King, not Satella summoned Subaru to the fantasy-like world. Weak clue: Episode 1A first minutes. There's one who wanted help, maybe from Subaru, and he looks like a male, not a female, not to mention that he looks like a human. (I'm an anime only and this is just my theory)

Na, that's the scene of Subaru dying and grabbing Emilia's bloody hand front he en of the episode 1B.

Which is why people think that the whole"rewind" curse was activated that moment.
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Very good emotional and touching this episode. I wonder how his Shadow Magic abilities will play into the third arc?

The hype is real for this next episode!

Read the manga after I caught up noticed some things were in a different order but that wasn't an issue.
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@smoct_ai as Fappa said back a page ago:

Fappa said:


Actually it was a common phrase when royalty died to say they are "gone missing". So I give the translator the benefit to think that he applied this here. Besides it often happens that the author uses little historical elements like that although this is a very little one.


"Missing" works in this context too because it's essentially saying the same thing in a more subtle or roundabout way. It fits more within the setting in terms of flavor test.


Yes, huzai 不在(translated into missing in English Sub) also works in a somewhat similar way in this context. But I did not mention it because 御隠れ is an even more explicit expression than missing, as a Japanese dictionary entry of the word shows it.

不在: 本来いるべき場所にいないこと (not to be present in a place where it belongs naturally/legally/essentially)
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Btw in last ep in previos loop did beatrice actualy beat roswall or just delay him and then go to subaru(for those who read and shiet)
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Fai said:

Not everything has to be a direct translation. Most of cases direct translation is wooden crap.Adding flavor and characterization by taking liberties is good.


So, do you agree that Roswaal used an explicit, straight-forward and literal expression to mean "The King was dead" when he talked with Subaru, and replacing"missing" with "dead" would NOT destroy any sense of that conversation?

Subaru didn't have to use any inference, guess because Rowaaldo didn't use any subtle, implicit way of expression. Instead, Roswaal did LITERALLY refer to "death of the king (御隠れ Okakure)"
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smoct_ai said:
Fai said:

Not everything has to be a direct translation. Most of cases direct translation is wooden crap.Adding flavor and characterization by taking liberties is good.


So, do you agree that Roswaal used an explicit, straight-forward and literal expression to mean "The King was dead" when he talked with Subaru, and replacing"missing" with "dead" would NOT destroy any sense of that conversation?

Subaru didn't have to use any inference, guess because Rowaaldo didn't use any subtle, implicit way of expression. Instead, Roswaal did LITERALLY refer to "death of the king (御隠れ Okakure)"


In english subs no he did not and that's what matters.
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