ma103 said:Ishida should seriously consider 'fixing' the manga for whiners who virtually contributes zero cent to his revenue.
Yes. Valid criticisms of egregious plot armor and asspull last minute rescues is "whining." Unlike you, I hold Tokyo Ghoul to a higher standard than a battle shounen.
>zero cents cents to Ishida's earnings.
Just for you, wise ass :^)
But if we are to subscribe to your sophistry, that being the criticism of a reader who contributes to Ishida's earnings is more valid than one who does not: show me your contribution so that I can discern whether or not your opinion supersedes mine in importance. I'll wait :)
There is no perfect pacing to leave everyone satisfied. Not sure if their dislike for Touka is the main reason. Maybe chapter sure feel slow if your hated character is making appearances throughout the whole chapter?
"MUH TOUKA!!!" Will you please stop being a triggered waifufag? Why are you only fixated on Touka when I explicitly argued all three of them, including Yomo and Ayato, should be dead? If not dead, then the loss of a limb or being dangerously close the verge of death due to mortal injures would have sufficed. We do not even get that. Arima all of a sudden just seems he cannot properly exterminate ghouls due to their newfound teleportation powers. I have to suspend my disbelief. I would have given it a pass if they were pit up against any other Special Class not named Arima Kishou. They have literally survived longer Kaneki, Eto, and Shachi. Their plot armor is that just that brazen. And why would I "skip pages" of the story because a character I allegedly "hate" appears? Do you have any idea how ludicrous this is? I do not "hate" Touka; I loathe the fact she and Yomo were arbitrarily forced into this raid with zero foreshadowing and their family drama is hijacking the prison break after 100+ chapters of irrelevance. And what is worse, they are fighting someone who should be able to kill them in seconds, but they cannot even be injured properly because plot armor. Right now, I want all three of them, not just your precious waifu: gone.
greenchuck said:And if I came off as aggressive that was not my intent, just curious…
No, you were quite respectful. No worries. :p
I have disagree with Hide having "greatest impact for him wanting to kill himself more than anyone else." His mother is the catalyst for that. If you read carefully, Kaneki is perverting the reasoning for Hide's sacrifice and tailoring it to fit his suicidal ideology. It is more obvious in the raws, but Ishida overlaps the "For someone else" over ("in a cool way") - which is in smaller text and overlaps "I want to risk my life" over ("I want to die."): verbatim ch. 53. It is true he wants to sacrifice himself, but he is not doing it for the same reasons as Hide: it is nothing more than a childish self serving desire at the expense of everyone who cares for him.
That said, I also believe Hide's "death" is playing a large contribution to his present mindset.
Having lost the only long lasting "emotional support" in his life, even if Hide wanted him to live, I think it's quite natural this would make the idea of dying far more appealing to Kaneki.
I do not know exactly what it would take for Kaneki to come to his senses. But his best friend who he has known for most of his life and was his true only support - is the only person who can save him singlehandedly in the context of good writing. Touka's slap and "muh wisdom" is the absolutely worst thing Ishida can possibly do. I don't really care if Touka plays a role in saving him; Kaneki needs support from virtually everyone. But I draw a line at her being some one of a kind magic cure despite barely knowing him. I also argue Kaneki requires additional life experience and introspection before he can properly develop; like when he realized seeking power singlemindedly was a danger to him and those important to him in the Kanou lab raid. We will have to wait and see, but I will hold up faith Ishida executes in a believable way consistent with his past writing: barring the last handful of plot armor chapters. |