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Mar 28, 2016 8:13 PM

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Did anyone else think that last episode felt a little bit like watching Gundam Wing Endless Waltz?
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Mar 28, 2016 8:15 PM

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This last episode was so great, so many fights! After so much effort, they won, now Germany will unite. So many people died only to make Germany united again! Great story.
So many things could have changed if only West Germany had arrived earlier...
And i'm not even talking about Theodor, he simply let Irisdina die in his hands lol The time that he wasted looking at the city, they would probably have enough time to reach a hospital.
Still it was a great ending.
7/10.

Mikaz3Laft said:
There will be a season 2 for both Schwarzesmarken and Alternative Total Eclipse, and new series revolving Shirogane Takeru. Btw, Katia reminds me of Kudelia Aina Bernstein. I didn't get to see Anett x Theodor kiss, and Gretel should had died, very disappointed. :(


Do you have any source about season 2 confirmation?

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Hey guy, if you loved her, how about taking her to the HOSPITAL??!!

That aside, this anime was very, very good! I loved the pacing, tension,, drama, and the fan service was nowhere near as gratuitous as it was in the original series. The characters were also pretty engaging. Well done to all who made this show a reality.


Exactly what i've said, that was so stupid lol
I mean about taking Irisdina to a hospital.
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Mar 28, 2016 10:41 PM

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Instead of going to the hospital they decide to enjoy the view of the sunrise because going to the hospital is for pussies. This reminded me of a movie I've watched before where the girl is dying and the guy decided to bring her to the beach to watch the sunset lol.

Well Gretel survived that's good. Axeman should've had a slow painful death, too bad he got shot in the head.

This anime started of really boring but it got a little more interesting later on. The show , unlike most mecha anime, was focused on two things: Fighting creatures and politics. Although it was obvious it was leaning more on the latter. Unfortunately the characters are not fleshed out enough so it's hard to feel bad for them. The show expects its viewers to have already watched or played muv-luv, resulting in a lot of confusing plot points.

Overall it's kinda decent but forgettable.
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Mar 28, 2016 11:43 PM
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This episode had me in tears especially at the end when Theodor confessed his love to the best girl of the show my waifu Irisdina </3 :( I'm not sure if she had any feelings for him but it would've been nice if the anime was a bit longer and those two had more screen time together to see how there relationship would develop but sadly it didn't happen.

But in my opinion the anime was a 10. I'm not to fond of the whole politics genre if that's even considered one but the way it was explained in here had me interested plus I loved how each and every one of the characters would willingly die to protect there fellow comrades and try very hard to unite both sides of Germany together so there could be peace once more. That's something I love about this anime ^^ My only complaint would be is if it was easy to save Gretel after being stuck in the explosion why THE HELL DID THEY LET IRISDINA DIE. Stupid directors she deserved to live to everyone did <_<

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Mar 29, 2016 12:12 AM

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Damn, there was enough time to patch up Irisdina and letting her live, such stuff was nonsense.
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Mar 29, 2016 2:33 AM
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This anime was really nice, better then the Muv Luv TE series. I really want a sequel of this anime. It would be more prudent for the studio to provide us with the history of Irisdina and Brehme, to completely comprehend the plot. There are few points which remains ambiguous and I would want to confirm what really occurred. It says that Gretel was saved by someone she knew from her school days, albeit that guy had no appearance in the anime. I don't see any point for Beatrix to remain with the Stasi after her father and lover's departure from the world. The story was displayed with alot of flaws. Moreover, there are certain facts which needs an appropriate confirmation. I hope they supply us with adequate information.
I was really chagrinned with Irisdina's death. Honestly, I didn't want her to die, but if she did die I wanted her to die an epic death.
Well, the anime had a good effect, fights were better then the TE series (The last fight between Yuuya and the controlled Cryska was pathetic) we can obviously deduce that the fight between Beatrix and Theodor was an epic battle with amazing effects.
I give the anime 8/10.
Mar 29, 2016 7:32 AM

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Mikaz3Laft said:
There will be a season 2 for both Schwarzesmarken and Alternative Total Eclipse, and new series revolving Shirogane Takeru. Btw, Katia reminds me of Kudelia Aina Bernstein. I didn't get to see Anett x Theodor kiss, and Gretel should had died, very disappointed. :(


Totally agree on the Kudelia thing. But Kudelia is way better IMO!

The end was confusing as hell for the last 10 seconds... they could have done it better.

And FFS, Theodor could have taken Iris to a hospital AT LEAST?

My scores:

Art: 6/10
Voices: 7/10
Characters: 7/10
Story: 7/10
OP/ED: 8/10

My overall: 8/10
Mar 29, 2016 9:22 AM

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Oh, come on. I really wanted to give this an 8/10, but it screwed it up just before it finished. Really, so you immediately take away an enemy on a stretcher for first aid, but Irisdina? Nope, gotta enjoy the view. And she talked so long that it's really hard for me to stay convinced she was going to die anyway. Also... Anett. Will she ever stop killing teammates? Why on earth did she toss the gun to a person with their hands tied, instead of shooting Axeman right there herself? Jfc.

Some real BS happened in the last few minutes, I'm really disappointed it turned out the way it did. Still, the 11 and a half episodes before this one were a solid 8, and I truly enjoyed every minute of them.

Final episode: 3/5
Series overall: 7/10

Even though I'm probably paranoid, did Irina die just for the sake of Theodor and Katia being a thing? Because if so, I'm gonna take another point off.

Hoping for a season 2.
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Mar 29, 2016 10:09 AM

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EinKaiser said:
This anime was really nice, better then the Muv Luv TE series. I really want a sequel of this anime. It would be more prudent for the studio to provide us with the history of Irisdina and Brehme, to completely comprehend the plot. There are few points which remains ambiguous and I would want to confirm what really occurred. It says that Gretel was saved by someone she knew from her school days, albeit that guy had no appearance in the anime. I don't see any point for Beatrix to remain with the Stasi after her father and lover's departure from the world. The story was displayed with alot of flaws. Moreover, there are certain facts which needs an appropriate confirmation. I hope they supply us with adequate information.
I was really chagrinned with Irisdina's death. Honestly, I didn't want her to die, but if she did die I wanted her to die an epic death.
Well, the anime had a good effect, fights were better then the TE series (The last fight between Yuuya and the controlled Cryska was pathetic) we can obviously deduce that the fight between Beatrix and Theodor was an epic battle with amazing effects.
I give the anime 8/10.


Bernhard im Schatten would be a good choice to adapt as either in TV series or OVA.
Mar 29, 2016 2:58 PM

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good action but she just died out of nowhere
Mar 29, 2016 9:37 PM

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too much melodramatic so they're sacrifice their own captain for sure, this is bullshit,and iris moment with theodor was so weird, why theodor not giving her first aid? she died already wtf
Mar 30, 2016 5:44 AM

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Mikaz3Laft said:
Shirogane Takeru. Btw, Katia reminds me of Kudelia Aina Bernstein.:(



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Overall I really enjoyed this show, 9/10
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Mar 30, 2016 6:06 AM

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Rip Iris.. This show was beautiful.

Mar 30, 2016 10:34 PM

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Gosh, it's probably because I've been binge-watching to catch up on all the series that aired, but man I have seem way too much of the notorious illogical anime decisions that end up ruining moments or entire series just because of how idiotic the situations are...

Like I knew it was coming, I was 99.9% sure they'd kill off Irisdina, but I wanted to hope that he would end up with her, guess not since there was so much more focus on Katia T^T
My ship took a shot in a vital spot and sank mercilessly

Anyways decent ending except for some very standard cliches and whatnot but there aren't many anime that don't incorporate those in some way nowadays, but overall it wasn't that bad, I sorta liked it, you know... Until my ship was brutally shot down but whatever, satisfied and done
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Mar 31, 2016 12:10 AM

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will miss this series. Rip Irisdina T_______T
Mar 31, 2016 12:40 AM

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WTF, man. What does this series have against busty girls? Irisdina, and even Slyvia. FeelsBadMan.

At least Gretel managed to survive, although I don't understand the short-hair.
Overall, I'd say I enjoyed this more than Total Eclipse, which was mostly a mess.
Mar 31, 2016 3:51 AM
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At least Gretel managed to survive, although I don't understand the short-hair.
Overall, I'd say I enjoyed this more than Total Eclipse, which was mostly a mess.


She was caught in a fire, so her hair got burned.
Mar 31, 2016 7:08 AM
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Not much effort seems to be put into the story. Otherwise, the anime looked and sounded nice and some of the fights were at least interesting to watch.
Mar 31, 2016 8:13 AM
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I hope their continue the series,, this one is better than Total eclipse.!! Great setting ,more complicating plot, n not just a harem show
Mar 31, 2016 8:24 AM

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Well, That's a sad ending. Just why someone needs to die?! And the best girl?!
Still, It's not a bad series overall. Add there would be a sequel of this? If yes, I'll still watch it.
Anyway I'll rate this anime a 6 (or 7?) out of 10 score overall.
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Mar 31, 2016 9:15 PM
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OK, so... during the scene where Iris dies, NOBODY thought: "Hey, you've been shot twice in your gut, maybe we should go to a hospital ASAP." This is like the exact opposite of plot armor. I mean come on...
Apr 1, 2016 3:06 PM

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Trash anime that kills off characters for shock value and plot convenience. 3/10
Apr 1, 2016 11:38 PM
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Wow, much better than Total Eclipse as an overall series, it surpass my expectations. Hoping there will be the prequel Bernhard im Schatten or sequel The Euro Front or the main trilogy to become an anime, I take any series in Muv-Luv franchise.
Apr 2, 2016 12:22 AM

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If ppl want to have a different ending in the series, you look into this, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PaxCLSclB74, when this is available, you can get it on steam.


Yes becuse a censored VN on steam is good :D. They censor every VN H scenes.
Apr 2, 2016 12:57 AM

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Yes, at least Anett didn't die.
Iris dying, quite sure that doesn't happen in the VN.
Yaay Megane is alive. RIP Iris though.
Taking her to a hospital instead of showing her Berlin could've probably saved her.
Overall okay ending for an alright series, not bad.
Apr 2, 2016 7:41 AM

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Normally I don't question illogical decisions taken by characters in anime, but this time it was too much.

Why in the name of all that is holy did they not rush Irisdina to a hospital. Yes, I know shots to the stomach are generally fatal, but if they had time to call Theodor, hug her and then take her for a scenic view on top of his unit, then at least a rush to the emergency room could have been attempted. Pff.
Rant over.

The series was ok I suppose other than that.


Agreed and on top of that why did Anett throw that gun to Irisdina and didn't shoot? That remains unclear, because there was plenty of time for her to shoot...
Apr 2, 2016 9:25 PM
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Why almost every anime instead of solving the wounded one or to say seek for medication,they choose to spent the last few words and pass away?She just got hit on the stomach, i dont think is very fatal as she can still chat for a while with Theodor. Maybe they tend to made Theodor and Katia together so she has to die instead. Btw, this ending is marvelous but i would just rate the overall around 4~5/10 cause they cross the line where family killing each other.
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Anlex said:
Farabeuf said:
Normally I don't question illogical decisions taken by characters in anime, but this time it was too much.

Why in the name of all that is holy did they not rush Irisdina to a hospital. Yes, I know shots to the stomach are generally fatal, but if they had time to call Theodor, hug her and then take her for a scenic view on top of his unit, then at least a rush to the emergency room could have been attempted. Pff.
Rant over.

The series was ok I suppose other than that.


Agreed and on top of that why did Anett throw that gun to Irisdina and didn't shoot? That remains unclear, because there was plenty of time for her to shoot...

Maybe the LN Author or the Director of this Anime want Katia to "win" so bad and finally kill Irisdina in the last episode
Apr 3, 2016 12:30 PM

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compared to the last Muv Luv anime... they are definitely going to the right direction. There are plenty of things they could have done better but this was a solid anime. It is nice to see that some creators listens to their fans. They even pulled a luluxsuzu somewhere in this episode!

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Apr 3, 2016 7:02 PM

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I'll ignore the Iris scenes flaw as this is one of the few mechas I genuinely enjoyed. Not fond of the talk shit in other mechas.
MAL score is 7.02, I don't get it. I guess most people just have shit taste hehe.
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Apr 4, 2016 6:03 AM

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Yeah I was bummed Iris bought it too.

Decent series so I'll give it a 6/10
Apr 4, 2016 8:07 AM

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For me the show was pretty average. Maybe I've seen too many mech shows, but neither the story or the characters were very appealing. The predictable deaths at the end felt like a lazy last ditch attempt to garner some emotional connection to the characters.
Apr 4, 2016 10:45 AM

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I really want to give it less than 6/10 ,but I can't...I'm too nice.
I don't mind deaths and all that...but there was too much of it and killing Iris was not a good choice imo
The ending was kind of stupid,because:
A) Why Anett didn't shoot this Stasi guy by herself? If she did,I think iris would still live
B) WHY DIDN'T YOU TAKE HER TO A HOSPITAL,WHY?! SHE STILL PROBABLY LIVED FOR LIKE 10-20 MIN (getting on that hill to see Berlin + the conversation probably took some time).
As much as I like Theodor,boy,you are dumb.

At least I finally got my nr.1 hated character :3 God damn Lise was so fucked up. I was cursing whenever I saw her on the screen.

So overall killing off 90% of characters and a very sad ending killed the serie imo.
Apr 4, 2016 11:15 AM

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THIS WHOLE ANIME IS BASICALLY KATIA ROUTE, in VN, it can be any route like Katia obviously, Irisdina, and Lise.
Apr 7, 2016 5:52 PM

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How sad, Theodor didn't even get a chance to say that he loves Irisdina befores she dies, but at least Stasi was defeated.
4/5.
8/10.


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In the LN it was very different from the anime. In the LN, Iris was already tortured before Theodor and the others rescue him, her nails were plucked off she was beaten etc. And over there she died protecting Katia from Axmann who was trying to kill Katia. Theodor was out fighting Beatrix at that time. One thing about what makes Axmann's bullet dangerous is the bullets he used are specifically for killing Eishi, the bullet can pass through their Eishi suit which is suppose to give them some form of protection from minor impacts. So in the LN, the bullet actually went through Iris' body and her blood lost was too much. But like the anime, she also demanded to see Berlin except unlike the anime, she died halfway in the trip.

By the way Axmann survives in the LN unpunished.


Thanks! It bothered me & most anime-only watchers, I almost removed a point for this. I know it's rushed adaptation as usual, but Axmann could've had one line to describe his specialized gun, how it differs from normal one that shot Gretel. Since he's already dead, probably foreshadow beforehand. Or let Iris mention the make/type to explain her blood loss. But I won't read the LN, can't stand Axmann ever living.
Iris is so gar fighting with handcuffs, but she should've stayed behind a tree, no need when lots of rebels came. Anyways Theodor's confession under Berlin sunrise was romantic, better than most romance shows.
But that lake had the real feels.

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I clicked yes few days ago. Now VN got GREENLIT!!

I'm just happy Gretel lives. Long live megane girls.
Katie end is quite fitting, since Theodor protects her more like family instead of lover, and reminds him of Lise, all the tragedy goodness of schwarzesmarken.

Anett lives. Funny girl messes everything up, but no teammates complain. She's been noted a good cqc fighter like Theodor, but maybe a terrible sniper? Maybe she'll miss Axmann if she tried.

Beatrix needed more backstory to understand. In the end Schmidt, Axmann & Beatrix all had their own motives & distinguish well from standard villains, making the political threads very interesting.

Started as a trainwreck, still ended kinda wrecked with too much desu. But enjoyed every mech fight, badass altruistic characters, and messed up relationships. It's hard to rate...
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-Janet said:
EinKaiser said:
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Hug me my Brother.... We have a mutual understanding because of our comprehension on this subject. I wholeheartedly agree with your remark. I wish to read your remarks on various other anime as well.


-hugs you- I'm glad we share similar opinions about this show and you understand how I feel about the subject. & I'll definitely try commenting on other shows we might have in common. Would you mind naming some of your favorites?

Oh and btw I'm a girl brotha :D


Oh, sorry for my rudeness.
I'll gladly tell you more awesome animes, but I'm sure you already watched them.
Let's just comment on anime which are arriving this spring.
I can't wait to read your remarks on these animes.
Apr 9, 2016 5:32 PM

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Nice shot Theo, you knife'd her!

5/10 (average) Good action and music. Story/characters were only so-so.
Best girl: crazy-Lise (duh)
Apr 16, 2016 10:01 PM

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That was nice. It had good amount of mecha action. But I felt like the writer gave too much importance to Stasi and their political motives while the BETA became irrelevant. The characters were okay. The ending felt rushed. They could've at least had more scenes with Iris and Theodore instead of his insane sister if they were planning to kill her.

7/10
Apr 17, 2016 6:17 PM
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Play the VN if u want see more iris and theodor....their relationship much more clear...
Which is how theodor fall in love with her....and other stuff....though u see more theoxlise too when that bitch come out....
Apr 17, 2016 9:28 PM

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It's the Winter 2016 Mecha.





So true, I actually agree.
Apr 18, 2016 10:56 PM
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Next....story of west germany...muv luv euro front...
Zerberus Battalion
More badass character and cool TSF (EF 2000 typhoon)...
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M4dhatter said:
Next....story of west germany...muv luv euro front...
Zerberus Battalion
More badass character and cool TSF (EF 2000 typhoon)...


Now that is what I'm waiting for BTW, I don't want them to do original trilogy yet like Extra /Unlimited /Alternative.
Apr 19, 2016 6:53 AM
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Iris's death was unnecessary and could have been avoided ,this show gave Akame Ga Kill chills .. It killed off almost their whole main cast , smh .. Interesting show tho ,
May 7, 2016 6:58 AM

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Ending..
Well i really felt though this anime, the story, the animation, characters. the military style, as for the interesting history. Already in the begining i had the intense, epic, " I NEED TO SEE MORE" feeling.
Enjoyed watching this to the max, not a masterpiece, But a sure 9,4/10 This anime defiantly deliver what i needed, epic, fighting, military, betrayal. an intense story.
Defiantly worth watching. and going to recommend this to an plenty of friends right away! ^^
cause MAL is doing there job for once.
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so gretel lived after being sprayed by an AK-47 and almost burned while iris died with 2 shots of a hand gun. wtf? was sight-seeing the best option for a girl who was shot in the stomach? >.<





anyways, this anime was a bit slugish *even with only 12 episodes* and there were loose parts all over. it dragged a bit coz the show was not focused on anything. they were having different agendas and was not even focused on the alien army that could destroy their world :p

there was a chance for a harem but the MC chose the pseudo-incest path. then he confessed to a dead girl when he didn't even show that he likes her *claps*


still, would rate it 5/10 *kek*
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For a fun note:



Can you imagine Theo does the opposite?
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Hmm so that was the last episode. The fight between the TSF's was nice. Walther and Sylvia I will miss them :(
Katias speech was perfect, with this everyone recognized that they have to do something against the Stasi. Beatrix got absolutely rekt by Theodor, I liked that sword fight a lot.

Fuck Axmann.....this fucking guy...why? Why had Irsidina to die, that was so fucking sad for me. I really liked that show and it was very interesting to watch, but that ruined it a little bit for me ;_;
Even if I'm happy for everyone who survived, Gretel got also shot in the stomache survived and Iris can't? That makes no sense to me. Theodor like always to late, he should had said that he loves her. Now it's to late. Oh well....

Great that the west came to help against the BETA, that was very important.

Even with this ending it didn't felt like a happy ending. But I knew something bad would happen in this last episode. There were not many people who died, so they saved it for the final. Anyway I'm glad for Katia and Theodor :)

I don't know how much material there's for a "maybe" second season but I wouldn't mind it. I liked the characters, the animation was great, the music was also nice and the plot interesting. For me overall a 8/10. :)

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So the romance in the show. Is

MC-kun will protect katia with his life for the rest of his life but does not love her. Katia proabably loves/likes MC-kun. MC-kun loves iris how dies. But the only Romance Mc-kun has is to kiss and fuck his sister...

ahhh thats so Muv-luv

I know right!? There is too much death on this show. At least pointless, easily avoidable cheap deaths, like Pham, or Sylvia and that dude.
I liked this one a bit more than Total Eclipse, since it was closer to MLA, not affraid to be fucked up at times, and try to mess with your head, not at MLA levels but still definitly something most of the MLA fanbase, that gives a try to these side stories/spin offs will appreciate, onwards to the visual novels bandwagon release in western audiences mainstream!!!
8.2/10.0
(TE was 8.1)
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Really enjoyed the show. It had good pacing and a nice blend of action and drama. Like everyone else I felt like the Iris death was a little silly but it was still a very beautiful scene. I wasn't a fan of how (almost) everyone died but still enjoyed the series. I'd rewatch it so 8/10
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