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What is the best Evil Org?
Akatsuki (Naruto)
25.1%
58
Espada (Bleach)
4.8%
11
Phantom Troupe (HxH)
42.4%
98
Homunculus (FMA)
13.4%
31
Shichibukai (One Piece)
6.1%
14
Ginyu Force (DBZ)
8.2%
19
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Nov 23, 2015 1:44 PM

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Nov 23, 2015 6:39 PM

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akatsuki: nagato (pain) and itachi
Nov 23, 2015 7:20 PM

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Phantom Troupe because they are interesting and don't seem to be entirely evil and their real motives are still a mystery.
Nov 23, 2015 7:56 PM

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akatsuki probly. Them along with the phantom troupe are the only large organisation who aren't walking cliches. everyone from the akatsuki has a unique personality and the interactions with each other are amazing, same goes for the pt. what i really liked about the akatsuki was the odd camaraderie between members. itachi/kisame, pain/konan, hidan kakuzu, and that their plans weren't really as simple as other groups, i wish kishi had gotten more in depth with them though. espadas were also cool, but had a lame af leader and failed to be anything but fodder, which really sucks cause stark was one of the best characters in bleach. kubo man, smh.

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Nov 24, 2015 1:48 AM

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Fuck them all. The RubberRobo Gang is the best.

They redesign houses and make them look like moai or ukeleles or Pinocchio.

That's badass.
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Nov 24, 2015 2:00 AM

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I haven't seen all of these anime, so I will say it is a bit unfair for me to judge, but I got to go with the Phantom Troupe.
Nov 24, 2015 2:07 AM
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so how many people agree with the poll results?
I definitely don't. can anyone who voted for the troupe explain why they think theyre better than the akatsuki or the espada?
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Every opinion is not equal. Some opinions are simply made out of shit.


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Nov 24, 2015 2:12 AM

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Akatsuki, hands down.
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Nov 24, 2015 2:20 AM

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omfgplzstop said:
so how many people agree with the poll results?
I definitely don't. can anyone who voted for the troupe explain why they think theyre better than the akatsuki or the espada?


Well, I haven't watched Bleach, and I've only been partially exposed to the Akatsuki since I put Naruto Shippuden on hold, so I can't really say if the Troupe is better than them.

What I like about the Troupe though is that they are a colorful cast (in personality and design) of villains who are thieves, but there are also ridiculously powerful. They all have pretty unique powers. I also like how they are sort of like a family, because they do care about each other (granted in an awkward, villain-y sort of way).
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sman3579 said:
omfgplzstop said:
so how many people agree with the poll results?
I definitely don't. can anyone who voted for the troupe explain why they think theyre better than the akatsuki or the espada?


Well, I haven't watched Bleach, and I've only been partially exposed to the Akatsuki since I put Naruto Shippuden on hold, so I can't really say if the Troupe is better than them.

What I like about the Troupe though is that they are a colorful cast (in personality and design) of villains who are thieves, but there are also ridiculously powerful. They all have pretty unique powers. I also like how they are sort of like a family, because they do care about each other (granted in an awkward, villain-y sort of way).
The Akatsuki are just like that, except with defined motives and better interactions (though they dont have the family sort of feel, they also have this camaraderie thing between the pairs). speaking of which, the way they operate is fairly interesting imo.

Honestly, I think most people voting for the troupe or homonculi are doing it because theyre the only ones they know and because hxh and fmab are considered better shows by most people.

it's just kind of irritating to see them win by such a landslide when they really arent that good lol. and to think i voted for them because i thought not many others will xD
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Nov 24, 2015 2:41 AM

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omfgplzstop said:

it's just kind of irritating to see them win by such a landslide when they really aren't that good lol.

*gasp* How dare you, the Troupe is amazing lol XD
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sman3579 said:
omfgplzstop said:

it's just kind of irritating to see them win by such a landslide when they really aren't that good lol.

*gasp* How dare you, the Troupe is amazing lol XD

lmao, i actually think hxh is easily the best between itself, bleach and naruto, but the akatsuki are just a better villain organization than the troupe. Espadas are arguable, though I think theyre better personally, but regardless they should be much, much higher on this list.

btw ill give you a mecha recommendation later when i get home and can actually go over your list lol
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Nov 24, 2015 3:00 AM

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None! The best is Arachnophobia from Soul Eater, because...

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Why Espada have only 6 votes?..They are pretty cool for what I remember.

Anyway I go with Phantom Troupe.
Nov 24, 2015 3:17 AM

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I'm guessing the FMA Homunculus refers to the FMAB versions..?
Nov 24, 2015 5:35 AM

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Griffith said:
Ginyu Force are just a division in Freeza's army, barely an organization.

Yeah, if OP wanted to include the Ginyu Force he should've used the Planet Trade Organisation instead. With this we're also talking about the Frieza Clan & Vegeta's crew. Plus, it takes into account the centuries worth of shit that happened in the galaxy making this villain organisation the most devastating/legendary.



omfgplzstop said:

The Shichibukai are just 7 separate individuals working for the same group, with their own organizations and shit. They shouldn't be on this list either.

Plus not all of them are villains. The only organisation in OP that should be listed as a villainous group would be the Blackbeard Pirate Crew, but they've only been given such little screen time. So all-in-all, OP should've said Marines.



omfgplzstop said:
Honestly, I think most people voting for the troupe or homonculi are doing it because theyre the only ones they know and because hxh and fmab are considered better shows by most people.
I've watched/read the series' for every poll-choice and I only voted Homunculi for two reasons: 1) I prefer those individual characters (Bradley goatness ♥) to every other in the poll; and 2) I knew they wouldn't be near the top.


it's just kind of irritating to see them win by such a landslide when they really arent that good
If you actually think about it, their writing is fucking brilliant.

omfgplzstop said:
but the akatsuki are just a better villain organization than the troupe
Nah, Troupe> anyday. They were great until Deidara died. Kishi ruined them completely when he made it that they were just ignorant dogs running around for a guy trying to accomplish a goal that wasn't even the true objective because that guy wasn't even their actual leader, and as it turned out that leader was just a vessel for a dead man.

Espadas are arguable, though I think theyre better personally, but regardless they should be much, much higher on this list.
Espada went to shit with the whole "Who said the numbers on the ten Espada went from 1 to 10?" when Shawlong confirmed it himself 150+ prior to that "revelation".



Tylaen said:
I'm guessing the FMA Homunculus refers to the FMAB versions..?
Yep, they're real Homunculi after all.
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ziggy_Z said:
Tylaen said:
I'm guessing the FMA Homunculus refers to the FMAB versions..?
Yep, they're real Homunculi after all.


In any form I try to interpret this comment, I can't seem to agree with this sentiment.
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Tylaen said:
ziggy_Z said:
Yep, they're real Homunculi after all.


In any form I try to interpret this comment, I can't seem to agree with this sentiment.
canon=real
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ziggy_Z said:
Tylaen said:


In any form I try to interpret this comment, I can't seem to agree with this sentiment.
canon=real


They're canon...In the manga and the FMAB adaption.

Also, not even close.
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Tylaen said:
ziggy_Z said:
canon=real


They're canon...In the manga and the FMAB adaption.

Also, not even close.
And 03 deviated from the manga, thus making it non-canon.
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ziggy_Z said:
Tylaen said:


They're canon...In the manga and the FMAB adaption.

Also, not even close.
And 03 deviated from the manga, thus making it non-canon.


FMA Is it's own canon. So, eh? FMAB Is noncanon In the anime original FMA.
Nov 24, 2015 5:51 AM

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Tylaen said:
-snip-

FMA Is it's own canon. So, eh? FMAB Is noncanon In the anime original FMA.
Wot?
Nov 24, 2015 5:52 AM
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Phantom troupe is the best one according to me.
I did not like how the akatsuki were just manipulated by 1 person. They were cool before but this just ruined it.
The espada were ok I guess but they were nothing special
The only homunculus that I really liked was wrath (bradley). The others were not as good as he was.
I don't think the sinchibukai are villains or at least not all of them (mihawk, jinbe etc)
The Ginyu Force was just boring

Tylaen said:

FMA Is it's own canon. So, eh? FMAB Is noncanon In the anime original FMA.

This makes no sense. It is like saying filler episodes for shows like naruto, bleach etc are cannon and the manga is non canon according to the anime for not having the filler content.
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ziggy_Z said:
Tylaen said:
-snip-

FMA Is it's own canon. So, eh? FMAB Is noncanon In the anime original FMA.
Wot?


Mindblowing, I know.

lequack said:

Tylaen said:

FMA Is it's own canon. So, eh? FMAB Is noncanon In the anime original FMA.

This makes no sense. It is like saying filler episodes for shows like naruto, bleach etc are cannon and the manga is non canon according to the anime for not having the filler content.
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FMA Is not filler though.
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lequack said:

The Ginyu Force was just boring
Excuse me?

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ziggy_Z said:
Wot?


Mindblowing, I know.
Yep... mindblowingly incomprehensible that truly was.
Nov 24, 2015 5:59 AM

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ziggy_Z said:
Yep... mindblowingly incomprehensible that truly was.


Just like your definition of "Canon".
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Tylaen said:
ziggy_Z said:
Yep... mindblowingly incomprehensible that truly was.


Just like your definition of "Canon".
As you're typing, is your webcam on? 'Cause it seems you're talking to yourself.
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ziggy_Z said:
Tylaen said:


Just like your definition of "Canon".
As you're typing, is your webcam on? 'Cause it seems you're talking to yourself.


I guess I sorta knew deep down that this wouldn't be a productive endeavor.

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Tylaen said:
ziggy_Z said:
As you're typing, is your webcam on? 'Cause it seems you're talking to yourself.


I guess I sorta knew deep down that this wouldn't be a productive endeavor.
Obviously, you're to bigoted to accept the empirical truth: canon in fiction=source material/original creator; what doesn't follow the source material or isn't established by the original creator =/= canon.

GG.
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ziggy_Z said:
]Obviously, you're to bigoted to accept the empirical truth: canon in fiction=source material/original creator; what doesn't follow the source material or isn't established by the original creator =/= canon.

GG.


That's better; an actual concrete definition of what you think the word "canon" means. Glad you realized your previous one was bad.

Too bad the original writer not only aided the anime In it's direction but also consented to it's divergence, thereby leaving It In the grey area as it established it's own world rules, etc.

I've also seen people use the word "non-canon" for fanfiction, adaptions they didn't like, and spin-offs they didn't like. In the grand scheme of things the "canon" and "non-canon" tag has no meaning to either of these works, as FMA Is not a marvel or DC who continously retcon themselves.

Naturally, you may keep your "own" empirical truth to yourself as I have no interest In adopting it.
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Tylaen said:
ziggy_Z said:
]Obviously, you're to bigoted to accept the empirical truth: canon in fiction=source material/original creator; what doesn't follow the source material or isn't established by the original creator =/= canon.

GG.


That's better; an actual concrete definition of what you think the word "canon" means. Glad you realized your previous one was bad..
Lel, it's what it actually means.

Too bad the original writer not only aided the anime In it's direction but also consented to it's divergence, thereby leaving It In the grey area as it established it's own world rules, etc.
Arakawa's aid for the 2003 adaption was only in the form of attending board meetings to give the staff insight into the world FMA, so, at the end of the day, it still maintained coherence.

I've also seen people use the word "non-canon" for fanfiction, adaptions they didn't like, and spin-offs they didn't like.
If you're tacitly suggesting I didn't like it, then you're wrong.

In the grand scheme of things the "canon" and "non-canon" tag has no meaning to either of these works, as FMA Is not a marvel or DC who continously retcon themselves.
It does because those terms are cardinal principles of fiction. Saying they have no bearing to FMA is equivalent to saying the random SOL filler in-between Bleach arcs actually happened in the story.

Naturally, you may keep your "own" empirical truth to yourself as I have no interest In adopting it.
Whatevs; believe what you wanna believe no matter how wrong it may be and I'll keep advocating this blindingly obvious fact of life.

In any case, this thread has been derailed like a motherfucker. So if 'ya wanna continue, how's about you make the appropriate thread in this board or any of the three FMA subforums? Otherwise let's go back to discussing which is the best/which are the better battle... shonen... villain... or-gan-is-ations?
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ziggy_Z said:


In any case, this thread has been derailed like a motherfucker. So if 'ya wanna continue, how's about you make the appropriate thread in this board or any of the three FMA subforums? Otherwise let's go back to discussing which is the best/which are the better battle... shonen... villain... or-gan-is-ations?


You indulged me In it, so don't attempt and shift the blame entirely on me.
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Tylaen said:
ziggy_Z said:


In any case, this thread has been derailed like a motherfucker. So if 'ya wanna continue, how's about you make the appropriate thread in this board or any of the three FMA subforums? Otherwise let's go back to discussing which is the best/which are the better battle... shonen... villain... or-gan-is-ations?


You indulged me In it, so don't attempt and shift the blame entirely on me.
What do you want me to do? Post in big, bold letters I'm the culprit & apologise? Soz bruh, I was out of line!
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ziggy_Z said:
What do you want me to do? Post in big, bold letters I'm the culprit & apologise? Soz bruh, I was out of line!


No, just making sure you aren't pulling a fast one on me.

Apology unneeded.
Nov 24, 2015 7:11 AM

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Once again I prove to have shit taste since I can't decide between Espada and Shichibukai.
Nov 24, 2015 7:16 AM

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Phantom Troupe (HxH)
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Espada because Grimmjow and Ulquiorra.
It's an entirely different kind of flying, altogether!
It's an entirely different kind of flying.
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Phantom Troupe
"How am I supposed to face the problem when the problem is my face?" - W.Lui

"A real man forgives a woman for her lies." - Sanji

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why the troupe fgts
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Agafin said:
Among the ones listed:

1. Phantom Troupe
2. Akatsuki
3. Homunculus
4. Shichibukai
5. Espada

Nothing's changed.
Nov 24, 2015 11:01 AM

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The troupe honestly needed way more screen time. I like them but they needed way more screen time but you know togashi zzzzzzzzz

Gonna go with Akatsuki cause they got shit done and the interactions are fun to watch.

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The Phantom Troupe are the most cohesive unit of the ones given. They worked well together and knew each others' strengths, weaknesses and roles. Plus there was a genuine sense of camaraderie there, especially shown when one of their members died.

The Ginyu Force were trash and accomplished nothing while being killed by Vegeta.

Akatsuki were controlled by Obito, so that brings them down. Also, they butted heads a lot and almost all of them didn't even know what the end goal was.

The Shichibukai are not a unit at all. The prospect of even 2 of them being in the same room together surprised Sengoku. They're all individually cool people, but they are not organized in combat or in general.
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Akatsuki were controlled by Obito, so that brings them down.


>implying Obito wasn't one of the best things about the akatsuki, and shippuden in general.

Oh maybe, maybe it's the clothes we wear
The tasteless bracelets and the dye in our hair
Or maybe, maybe it's our nowhere towns or our nothing places
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We're the lovers on the streets
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It's in everything we do
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Sorcerer Kingdom of Nazarick from Overlord
Ruled by The Supreme Being Sorcerer King Ainz Ooal Gown.

Devote your very being to Ainz-sama and prosperity will follow.

Nov 25, 2015 8:19 AM
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The Phantom Troupe are mysterious as fuck so I'll go with them.
The Homunculi were pretty good too.
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Sorcerer Kingdom of Nazarick from Overlord
Ruled by The Supreme Being Sorcerer King Ainz Ooal Gown.

Devote your very being to Ainz-sama and prosperity will follow.



Ainz isn't really a villain.
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Illyricus said:
ichii_1 said:
Sorcerer Kingdom of Nazarick from Overlord
Ruled by The Supreme Being Sorcerer King Ainz Ooal Gown.

Devote your very being to Ainz-sama and prosperity will follow.



Ainz isn't really a villain.
Anf that psychopath in your avatar isn't either.
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Milk_is_Special said:
Illyricus said:


Ainz isn't really a villain.
Anf that psychopath in your avatar isn't either.


It's not the same. Ainz is the main character and his actions, though being selfish, are neutral. only want to understand the World where he is and only kills when the situation needs.

Seryu is directly opposed to the main characters and her actions carry an actual malicious intention.
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ichii_1 said:



It's not the same. Ainz is the main character and his actions, though being selfish, are neutral. only want to understand the World where he is and only kills when the situation needs.


Ainz kills and most of the time horribly tortures those that oppose him.
He is only kind and compassionate to those who follow him and that he takes interest in.

Look at the alignment.
http://i.imgur.com/uqQwOGH.png
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