| First a glimpse of critical events in India: A 50+ year old man beaten to death on a (freaking) RUMOR of eating beef(cow meat) at the hands of Hindu Extremists: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-34398433 http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/09/indian-mob-kills-man-cow-slaughter-rumour-150930193719666.html Truck driver burned alive on suspicion of transporting beef in Indian occupied Kashmir: http://www.latimes.com/world/asia/la-fg-indian-trucker-beef-20151019-story.html http://indianexpress.com/article/india/india-news-india/protests-in-j-k-after-truckers-death-separatists-call-for-strike/ ^Also Hindu militants threw ink on a Muslim lawmaker in New Delhi, where he was holding a news conference to protest Zahid's death. Children of low caste(as per Hindu religion) burned alive by a fued with upper caste men: http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/10/arrests-dalit-children-burnt-alive-india-151021140032140.html Australian couple threatened of being 'skinned' over Hindu deity tattoo: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3279137/Angry-mob-threaten-skin-Australian-tourist-sexually-abuse-girlfriend-India-Hindu-goddess-tattoo.html Others All this happening in the so called biggest democracy of the world. And the alarming part is that that the government is not even condemning any of that much less take any action. Indian PM Modi said he sees shiv sena as his comrades and won't say a single word against their actions. So what are your thoughts on all of this. And what is going to become of India with Modi PM till 2019? |
HijaziOct 22, 2015 4:57 AM
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| >Indian PM Modi said he sees shiv sena as his comrades and won't say a single word against their actions. Link?? Also, third world countries doesn't matter, nice try linking all of these bullshit though. |
Inferno_CopOct 22, 2015 5:08 AM
Inferno_Cop said: >Indian PM Modi said he sees shiv sena as his comrades and won't say a single word against their actions. Link?? Also, third world countries doesn't matter, nice try linking all of these bullshit though. http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/home/specials/assembly-elections-2014/maharashtra-news/I-will-not-utter-a-word-against-Shiv-Sena-as-a-mark-of-respect-to-Bal-Thackeray-Prime-Minister-Modi-says/articleshow/44399972.cms http://www.hindustantimes.com/india/won-t-criticise-shiv-sena-as-tribute-to-bal-thackeray-modi/story-0xZSc5YdisJLJpsYWXayjM.html Anything Else!!? |
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Hijazi said: SNIP first link-Oct 5, 2014, 01.30PM IST second link-Updated: Oct 06, 2014 01:29 IST Nice try again and failed again, where does above links says Modi approve of acts you listed(acts which happened in last two months) or didn't say any word against them. http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-34524838 Also that incident happened in UP, a state where government is psuedo pro muslim(read muslim not islam), it has no bearing on MODI. It was a planned propaganda by Samajwadi party(first create fear in muslim minority and then manipulate them by using money, in this case giving victims family 100k $, thrice the amount of a general citizen will get.) Also FFS, those two children dying was result of local rivalry as victims family members killed attackers family member one year ago, no need to paint that as caste oppression. >Indian occupied Kashmir Kashmir was always a part of India, what do you mean by occupied? Also this is a place where separatists supports even ISIS, no point in listening to their cries, in a matter which is still not confirmed. Only thing I can really say was Extremism was Australian couple getting threatened and Alim Dar not umpiring, since Kulkarni getting insulted was fine and dandy. He was supporting a person whose whole history was consisted of spouting venom against India. Next time research better, I know MODI being elected and having 87% approval rate (which means high approval among other minorities such as Buddhist, Sikhs and Christians as well) made many people butthurt even in India and want to blame even for things he should not be blamed for, like the incidents of UP, but hey you are free to make a fool out of yourself. |
Inferno_CopOct 22, 2015 10:06 AM
| @Inferno Cop,just one of those cases,where people are talking out of their asses without knowing jackshit about it.Its MAL,not surprising. |
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Chrisereum said: @Inferno Cop,just one of those cases,where people are talking out of their asses without knowing jackshit about it.Its MAL,not surprising. I know that, that is why I don't comment or lurk much in Casual discussion or current events, but this time bullshitism was off the chart. I mean Shiv sena is just a single state party for FFS. |
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[i]"Yet each man kills the thing he loves, [/i]By each let this be heard, Some do it with a bitter look, Some with a flattering word, The coward does it with a kiss, The brave man with a sword!'' ~Oscar |
Inferno_Cop said: Hijazi said: SNIP first link-Oct 5, 2014, 01.30PM IST second link-Updated: Oct 06, 2014 01:29 IST Nice try again and failed again, where does above links says Modi approve of acts you listed(acts which happened in last two months) or didn't say any word against them. http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-34524838 He remembered his words. He hasn’t said a single thing about shiv sena or these incidents. Doesn’t this mean he is reinforcing his /view/words/speech/ he gave back there? Inferno_Cop said: >Indian occupied Kashmir Kashmir was always a part of India, what do you mean by occupied? Also this is a place where separatists supports even ISIS, no point in listening to their cries, in a matter which is still not confirmed. Kashmir was never India’s and will never be, mind you. India is just occupying their land by oppressing the general public with its 0.7 million army placed for the very purpose. Just look at which country’s flags are waving /on their roofs/in their hands. Inferno_Cop said: Only thing I can really say was Extremism was Australian couple getting threatened and Alim Dar not umpiring, since Kulkarni getting insulted was fine and dandy. He was supporting a person whose whole history was consisted of spouting venom against India. Every incident mentioned above is important in its own context, kids. They are practically telling you something about Endian future and I think the affected parties get what it is saying. But it is your choice to either brush them aside as mere events(which seems to be the case) or have some thoughts on the matter. |
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Hijazi said: Kashmir was never India’s and will never be, mind you. India is just occupying their land by oppressing the general public with its 0.7 million army placed for the very purpose. What? I mean seriously literally what?I know people here has a high tenacity of spouting bullshit but this just takes the cake.FYI,I have been to Kashmir 4 times for my research purposes so all those "oppression " you are talking about hasn't been in my notice anytime.As far as the deployment of army goes,do you even know about Kargil War where Kashmir was in the center stage.I can bet you don't.The deployment works both ways,even Pakistan has enforced their army in the border region just like India and both countries have full right to increase their defenses in a region which has seen war less than 20 years ago. Just look at which country’s flags are waving /on their roofs/in their hands. Uh huh...the people who lives there think differently.They know very well that Indian tourists are their primary source of income so they won't do anything to jeopardize that.The bad blood is more towards certain military officers in India and not freaking country itself.It just gets inflated to a degree where things become volatile.but hey,India is not a special snowflake so there are exceptions.Kindly do your research before spouting bullshit |
laidellentOct 23, 2015 11:56 PM
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Hijazi said: Inferno_Cop said: > first link-Oct 5, 2014, 01.30PM IST second link-Updated: Oct 06, 2014 01:29 IST Nice try again and failed again, where does above links says Modi approve of acts you listed(acts which happened in last two months) or didn't say any word against them. http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-34524838 He remembered his words. He hasn't said a single thing about shiv sena or these incidents. Doesn't this mean he is reinforcing his /view/words/speech/ he gave back there? But he did, didn't he? You failed to even read the above link. You have some kind of mindset that he has to blame Shiv sena. But blame it for what? That a muslim died in UP which is 1500 km away from mumbai is also Shiv sena's fault or Australian couple getting threatened 400 km away in a Congress ruled state is also Shiv sena's fault? Inferno_Cop said: >Indian occupied Kashmir Kashmir was always a part of India, what do you mean by occupied? Also this is a place where separatists supports even ISIS, no point in listening to their cries, in a matter which is still not confirmed. Kashmir was never India & and will never be, mind you. India is just occupying their land by oppressing the general public with its 0.7 million army placed for the very purpose. Just look at which country & flags are waving /on their roofs/in their hands.[/quote] Before 1947 even the area which is now PoK was a part of India, so saying Kashmir never was a part of India is hilarious. As for flags Yup, I know. It is called "Tiranga." Though I won't deny sometimes shit like this happenes http://www.ibnlive.com/news/politics/after-pakistan-flags-separatist-supporters-wave-isis-flags-in-kashmir-valley-1005340.html TBH ISIS supporters should've been shot or jailed, this is something most people agree on. They are dangerous for human society. As for 0.7 million forces, the moment India remove forces from there, PAK will try to capture the hills and you will see another war, just like in 1999 and most likely PAK will lose again. Precaution is better than cure here, since both countries have nuclear weapons. Inferno_Cop said: Only thing I can really say was Extremism was Australian couple getting threatened and Alim Dar not umpiring, since Kulkarni getting insulted was fine and dandy. He was supporting a person whose whole history was consisted of spouting venom against India. Every incident mentioned above is important in its own context, kids. They are practically telling you something about Endian future and I think the affected parties get what it is saying. But it is your choice to either brush them aside as mere events(which seems to be the case) or have some thoughts on the matter.[/quote] I used "Kid" as an insult in kindergarden, try harder next time. Also expand on the context if you are so fixated on it. Start with Kulkarni being painted since he was a member of the MODI's party as well. |
laidellent said: What? I mean seriously literally what?I know people here has a high tenacity of spouting bullshit but this just takes the cake.FYI,I have been to Kashmir 4 times for my research purposes so all those "oppression " you are talking about hasn't been in my notice anytime.As far as the deployment of army goes,do you even know about Kargil War where Kashmir was in the center stage.I can bet you don't.The deployment works both ways,even Pakistan has enforced their army in the border region just like India and both countries have full right to increase their defenses in a region which has seen war less than 20 years ago. Uh huh...the people who lives there think differently.They know very well that Indian tourists are their primary source of income so they won't do anything to jeopardize that.The bad blood is more towards certain military officers in India and not freaking country itself.It just gets inflated to a degree where things become volatile.but hey,India is not a special snowflake so there are exceptions.Kindly do your research before spouting bullshit Oh come on now, don't just up and deny the obvious truth! If India is not /occupying/suppressing/ the /Kashmir/is then what is the purpose of 0.7m army there? Where does this leave UN resolutions, Pakistani complaints, human rights organizations, America and other countries that recognize Kashmir a conflicting issue? The whole world knows that kashmiris never wanted nor wants to be associated with India. It is just you people who twist facts and in constant denial about something that is as clear as day. Kashmiris observing Indian Independence Day a Black Day: http://dailymailnews.com/2015/08/19/why-do-kashmiris-observe-august-15th-as-black-day/ Human rights violations in Kashmir: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/sep/12/indian-forces-kashmir-accused-human-rights-abuses-coverup https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2015/07/india-accountability-still-missing-for-human-rights-violations-in-jammu-and-kashmir/ https://www.hrw.org/world-report/2013/country-chapters/india (See Jammu and Kashmir heading) http://www.hrw.org/reports/1999/kashmir/ |
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Hijazi said: Oh come on now, don't just up and deny the obvious truth! If India is not /occupying/suppressing/ the /Kashmir/is then what is the purpose of 0.7m army there? Where does this leave UN resolutions, Pakistani complaints, human rights organizations, America and other countries that recognize Kashmir a conflicting issue? The whole world knows that kashmiris never wanted nor wants to be associated with India. It is just you people who twist facts and in constant denial about something that is as clear as day. Lets tear down your strawman shall we because you are trying waayyyyyyyyyyyyy too hard. Kashmiris observing Indian Independence Day a Black Day: http://dailymailnews.com/2015/08/19/why-do-kashmiris-observe-august-15th-as-black-day/ Because the guy who wrote this has so much credibility Its like you pointedly ignored the entire article and fished for those sentences which would conveniently suit you.Let me show you a phrase from the article itself. "Kashmir was split between India and Pakistan when the two nations gained their independence from Britain in 1947. From the late 1980s until today a brutal insurgency has pitted Indian security forces and police against Islamic militants, some backed by Pakistan, and separatists in the former princedom. Tens of thousands have died in the conflict, mainly civilians, and both sides have committed serious human rights abuses. In recent years the violence has declined, but the dispute over the region continues to fuel deep animosity between the two nuclear-armed neighbours, while many Kashmiris continue to demand independence from both, or at least a greater degree of autonomy." [/quote] https://www.hrw.org/world-report/2013/country-chapters/india (See Jammu and Kashmir heading) http://www.hrw.org/reports/1999/kashmir/ You might want to give more relevant updates except going around fishing for something that is a couple of years old by which you are trying to inflate for your own propaganda.Please stop your strawman,you have been repeatedly rebuffed before and if you continue you are just embarrassing your delusional self. |
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| What is the purpose of 0.7 million forces? Obviously it is for stopping ISI supported millitents. I see you completly avoided 1999 kargil war and its reasons. UN resolutions and Pakistan worries, I died laughing. I don't see a group which has appointed Saudi as leader of Human right is in any position of criticising others and credible source and for PAK, it a country with even worse raking in human rights. The person whose house is made of glass don't throw stones at others. Though it is getting off topic since you still have to cover "Modi didn't say anything about those incidents." Be on track please. |
Inferno_Cop said: Hijazi said: He remembered his words. He hasn't said a single thing about shiv sena or these incidents. Doesn't this mean he is reinforcing his /view/words/speech/ he gave back there? But he did, didn't he? You failed to even read the above link. You have some kind of mindset that he has to blame Shiv sena. But blame it for what? That a muslim died in UP which is 1500 km away from mumbai is also Shiv sena's fault or Australian couple getting threatened 400 km away in a Congress ruled state is also Shiv sena's fault? It is not 1500 km from mumbai. It is 45 km from Indian Capital. Inferno_Cop said: >Indian occupied Kashmir Kashmir was always a part of India, what do you mean by occupied? Also this is a place where separatists supports even ISIS, no point in listening to their cries, in a matter which is still not confirmed. Kashmir was never India & and will never be, mind you. India is just occupying their land by oppressing the general public with its 0.7 million army placed for the very purpose. Just look at which country & flags are waving /on their roofs/in their hands. Before 1947 even the area which is now PoK was a part of India, so saying Kashmir never was a part of India is hilarious. As for flags Yup, I know. It is called "Tiranga." Though I won't deny sometimes shit like this happenes http://www.ibnlive.com/news/politics/after-pakistan-flags-separatist-supporters-wave-isis-flags-in-kashmir-valley-1005340.html TBH ISIS supporters should've been shot or jailed, this is something most people agree on. They are dangerous for human society. As for 0.7 million forces, the moment India remove forces from there, PAK will try to capture the hills and you will see another war, just like in 1999 and most likely PAK will lose again. Precaution is better than cure here, since both countries have nuclear weapons. Take it as you may but I meant Todays India. Also that's some amazing assumption you got there. We won't do any such thing. So don't panic. Though if they invited us then we can't help it. :D Inferno_Cop said: Only thing I can really say was Extremism was Australian couple getting threatened and Alim Dar not umpiring, since Kulkarni getting insulted was fine and dandy. He was supporting a person whose whole history was consisted of spouting venom against India. Every incident mentioned above is important in its own context, kids. They are practically telling you something about Endian future and I think the affected parties get what it is saying. But it is your choice to either brush them aside as mere events(which seems to be the case) or have some thoughts on the matter. I used "Kid" as an insult in kindergarden, try harder next time. Also expand on the context if you are so fixated on it. Start with Kulkarni being painted since he was a member of the MODI's party as well. I didn't mean it as an insult. It is there for some other reason(it is fine if you don't get it). And I used it because I wanted to and will use it when I want too. komain. [i know you know it but I will say it anyway.] If I have to describe the context in softest words than I will say that India is no longer safe for Muslims(even the ones living there for centuries), Sikhs, /liberal/secular/ segments and the lower caste(as per Hinduism). |
HijaziOct 24, 2015 9:05 AM
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Hoppy said: Modi needs to be tried and executed for terrorism and crimes against humanity. Here comes the usual shitposter with one liner. Go execute Obama and Bush for Iraq and Syria. |
Hoppy said: Modi needs to be tried and executed for terrorism and crimes against humanity. You have no idea of what you are talking about.lol Carry on. |
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| >It is not 1500 km from mumbai.It is 45 km from Indian Capital. So, that state is not under modi or shiv sena. India works with decentralization, it is the fault of state government which is not BJP. >Take it as you may but I meant Todays India. Also that's some amazing assumption you got there. We won't do any such thing. So don't panic. Though if they invited us then we can't help it. :D But PAK did that in 1999 by capturing vacant hills till Indian bombed the shit out of them in tiger hill. Also, no need to panic since you lost previous three wars already and will lose forth as well. Most likely this time you will lose Bloochistan as well just like you lost Bangladesh. Also for not being safe, nice try but I asked you to expand on issues, not to give me an uninformed opinion about what you think. |
Inferno_Cop said: >It is not 1500 km from mumbai.It is 45 km from Indian Capital. So, that state is not under modi or shiv sena. India works with decentralization, it is the fault of state government which is not BJP. >Take it as you may but I meant Todays India. Also that's some amazing assumption you got there. We won't do any such thing. So don't panic. Though if they invited us then we can't help it. :D But PAK did that in 1999 by capturing vacant hills till Indian bombed the shit out of them in tiger hill. Also, no need to panic since you lost previous three wars already and will lose forth as well. Most likely this time you will lose Bloochistan as well just like you lost Bangladesh. Also for not being safe, nice try but I asked you to expand on issues, not to give me an uninformed opinion about what you think. I don't have have that much time. Do it yourself. My, big words you got there. That is your claim about the three wars. I won't argue since you won't admit it anyway, as always. But I guarantee you that the end of fourth war will mark the start of another era of Muslim Rule over the subcontinent. I will address the 'Modi didn't say anything part' later. |
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Hoppy said: Modi needs to be tried and executed for terrorism and crimes against humanity. Took you long enough. But Thank you for your post. :) |
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Hijazi said: Hoppy said: Modi needs to be tried and executed for terrorism and crimes against humanity. Took you long enough. But Thank you for your post. :) Ironically both him and you don't know what you are talking about.Go on please,its always funny to see people being delusional in their own little world |
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| Since when is the India the "biggest democracy in the world"? That's a load of bull, I'd never want to live in that shit hole. Just the caste system alone proves my point. |
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I don't have have that much time. Do it yourself. Thanks, now everyone can see you failed there since burden of proof was on you as you started this thread. My, big words you got there. That is your claim about the three wars. I won't argue since you won't admit it anyway, as always. This is not something I need to claim since it is an universal fact that PAK lost "East pakistan" and India captured 90,000 of their soldiers. Can you refute it? Go ahead. But I guarantee you that the end of fourth war will mark the start of another era of Muslim Rule over the subcontinent. Bolded it out, so everyone can see it. It is typical Islamic rule propaganda you people get indoctrined with. Beware since war never is a good thing, I don't even know what the fuck is the need of Islamic/Hindu/Christian rule. [quote]I will address the 'Modi didn't say anything part' later[quote]. Tsk, Tsk. |
Niddy said: Since when is the India the "biggest democracy in the world"? That's a load of bull, I'd never want to live in that shit hole. Just the caste system alone proves my point. It actually is disregarding what you think about it and well,India is not about one religion so there is that.But I know,its pretty easy to form opinions from half assed news so yeah,I can get where you are coming from. |
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Animestic said: Lets tear down your strawman shall we because you are trying waayyyyyyyyyyyyy too hard. Hijazi said: Kashmiris observing Indian Independence Day a Black Day: http://dailymailnews.com/2015/08/19/why-do-kashmiris-observe-august-15th-as-black-day/ Because the guy who wrote this has so much credibility The guy was telling the truth mind you. http://www.aljazeera.com/news/asia/2011/08/201181512056925860.html So are you going to deny this as well? Animestic said: [/quote]Its like you pointedly ignored the entire article and fished for those sentences which would conveniently suit you.Let me show you a phrase from the article itself. Tens of thousands have died in the conflict, mainly civilians, and both sides have committed serious human rights abuses. In recent years the violence has declined, but the dispute over the region continues to fuel deep animosity between the two nuclear-armed neighbours, while many Kashmiris continue to demand independence from both, or at least a greater degree of autonomy." https://www.hrw.org/world-report/2013/country-chapters/india (See Jammu and Kashmir heading) http://www.hrw.org/reports/1999/kashmir/ Let's see WHY I said that and posted these links: laidellent said: FYI,I have been to Kashmir 4 times for my research purposes so all those "oppression " you are talking about hasn't been in my notice anytime. Uh huh...the people who lives there think differently.They know very well that Indian tourists are their primary source of income so they won't do anything to jeopardize that.The bad blood is more towards certain military officers in India and not freaking country itself. In response to your No Oppression Claim I gave you the reports of globally recognized organizations helding Indian army responsible for most of cases. But look at you. You went from No Oppression to, uh huh, 'Both sides are to blame for the violence' just like that. So what is your deal, huh? Try to be a little honest. It is good for your health. And No, they don't like India and that is evident from the black day. Animestic said: Hijazi said: Ironically both him and you don't know what you are talking about.Go on please,its always funny to see people being delusional in their own little world Of course we do. Not everyone is as clueless as you now. There are serious accusations on Modi on his role in the Gujarat riots as the CM. ' About 1,000 people, mostly Muslims, were killed. Some 20,000 Muslim homes and businesses and 360 places of worship were destroyed, and roughly 150,000 people were displaced.' U.S even denied visa to him for the very reason. 'A top state official tells one investigation panel that Mr. Modi ordered officials to take no action against rioters. That official was murdered. Thousands of cases against rioters are dismissed by the police for lack of evidence despite eyewitness accounts.' He should face a fair trail and if cleared, well n good, but if found guilty then he should accept his verdict. Inferno_Cop said: [/quote]Hijazi said: I don't have have that much time. Do it yourself. Thanks, now everyone can see you failed there since burden of proof was on you as you started this thread. You seriously need to look up the title of the thread TWICE. So that you don't take it for something else. In my title post I gave sufficient evidence about the things this thread is about. 'Expanding the issues' is just something you want. It is in no way my responsibility to entertain you wants. So much of you passing judgements on me. Inferno_Cop said: This is not something I need to claim since it is an universal fact that PAK lost "East pakistan" and India captured 90,000 of their soldiers. Can you refute it? Go ahead. Have it your way. But be on track please. Hijazi said: But I guarantee you that the end of fourth war will mark the start of another era of Muslim Rule over the subcontinent. Inferno_Cop said: Bolded it out, so everyone can see it. It is typical Islamic rule propaganda you people get indoctrined with. Beware since war never is a good thing, I don't even know what the fuck is the need of Islamic/Hindu/Christian rule. Sorry but it wasn't me who started this fourth war thing. You even predicted India's victory and what not here: Inferno_Cop said: Also, no need to panic since you lost previous three wars already and will lose forth as well. Most likely this time you will lose Bloochistan as well just like you lost Bangladesh. And by Muslim rule I meant that it shall be our victory and connected it with the previous rule. Hasn't Muslims ruled India for 1000+ years about 2-3 centuries ago? I will address the 'Modi didn't say anything part' later . Tsk, Tsk. Are these butt hurt words I see? Hehehe. Yes, but he took his sweet time and was under pressure to give a statement. 'Mr Modi had been under pressure to condemn the killing of Mohammad Akhlaq.' Also, "But what is the role of the federal government in these incidents?", being the ruler of India, should he be saying these things? k there is decentralization in india but the central goverment could of forced or pressurise the responsible state to take proper actions to stop these incidents. Instead what we get are some vague statements indirectly favoring the attacks by some federal /ministers/members of BJP. So it is not all that shocking if /they/him/ held responsible as well. That is all from me. |
HijaziOct 25, 2015 6:20 AM
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Animestic said: Niddy said: Since when is the India the "biggest democracy in the world"? That's a load of bull, I'd never want to live in that shit hole. Just the caste system alone proves my point. It actually is disregarding what you think about it and well,India is not about one religion so there is that.But I know,its pretty easy to form opinions from half assed news so yeah,I can get where you are coming from. KamSung said: Wait who said India was the biggest democracy? I'm pretty sure they aren't. Because of its population size, it is. Indian leaders often brags about it too. |
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Hijazi said: And by Muslim rule I meant that it shall be our victory and connected it with the previous rule. Hasn't Muslims ruled India for 1000+ years about 2-3 centuries ago? Nope, they ruled about 550 years. Also LOL at your logic. If previous rule matters that much than Britain will be conquering the world in the next few years. Sorry but it wasn't me who started this fourth war thing. Hijaji said: Take it as you may but I meant Todays India. Also that's some amazing assumption you got there. We won't do any such thing. So don't panic. Though if they invited us then we can't help it. :D http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/war/kargil-99.htm >The 1999 Kargil War took place between May 8, when Pakistani forces and Kashmiri militants were detected atop the Kargil ridges and July 14 when both sides had essentially ceased their military operations. It is believed that the planning for the operation, by Pakistan, may have occurred about as early as the autumn of 1998. You completly ignored the 1999 war and its reasons, but you still say that you won't do such a thing. 4th war was in the context as well. Also Did I say 4th war will be a good thing? No, I didn't since many people will die anyway. And No, they don't like India and that is evident from the black day. The guy was telling the truth mind you. http://www.aljazeera.com /news/asia/2011/08 /201181512056925860.html So are you going to deny this as well? Looks like you didn't read it yourself >Kashmir remained closed as the separatists groups Hurriyat Conference and Jihad Council called for a complete shutdown in the valley. If by black day you mean Extremist groups who want Sharia Law and supports ISIS are crying then be it. If killing millitents is Human right violation then be it as well, also your links are old (one even from war time) and mentions how violence is getting less and less. Yes, but he took his sweet time and was under pressure to give a statement. 'Mr Modi had been under pressure to condemn the killing of Mohammad Akhlaq.' Also, "But what is the role of the federal government in these incidents?", being the ruler of India, should he be saying these things? k there is decentralization in india but the central goverment could of forced or pressurise the responsible state to take proper actions to stop these incidents. Instead what we get are some vague statements indirectly favoring the attacks by some federal /ministers/members of BJP. So it is not all that shocking if /they/him/ held responsible as well. Incident, not incidents. Also I need some proof for the claim in bold part. Also pressure by whom? Who can force him anyway. If he don't want to say something no one in India can force him except Supreme court. U.S even denied visa to him for the very reason. U.S welcomed him as well later on since he wasn't found guilty, try harder. He should face a fair trail and if cleared, well n good, but if found guilty then he should accept his verdict. http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-17664751 Next, and before you make another ignorant statement Supreme court is neutral( Judges never get elected by the Government) and this decision came out when Congress was in the power in center, so do not try to play the "Modi used his power in center" card. |
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