| I see multiple shows where a person calls someone (even if he is far older than he/she is) fat, ugly, flat chested and etc. So I was wondering if this goes unpunished in the country and an anime just exposes some of this behavior. I know that most Japanese are nice and well organized people, so I am really confused with this type of behavior in anime. |
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| Its normal everywhere if your an asshole |
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| They're just like everyone else in Japan mate, people insult each other all the time and you can bet they would retaliate accordingly just like anyone else. |
Kamidono said: Is it normal to always trip and fall over a girl and your hand just ends up on her boob then the girl ends up smacking you but in secret she develops feelings for you? This is not the same topic. |
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ExTamplier said: People say taht bullying and racism is rampant in Japanese schools and societyI know that most Japanese are nice and well organized people, so I am really confused with this type of behavior in anime. so....... |
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| They probably overexaggerate it to develop the character, seems more like teasing than bullying most of the time |
Forgetfulness said: Deus-Vult said: Well my teacher in Asia class said the Japan is super xenophobic so I can believe the second partPeople say taht bullying and racism is rampant in Japanese schools so....... Xenophobic of what? other cultures with different practices, or the biological constitution itself? Is it the same as the Spain getting xenophobic of Africans who illegitimately cross-over their boundaries? I would love to hear what are the reasons or on what basis Japanese people are xenophobic, as stated by your teacher that you will willingly promote the idea here that they "must" be xenophobes. |
| its normal i guess because they are telling the truth. |
Haeduans said: look at Japanese HistoryXenophobic of what? other cultures with different practices, or the biological constitution itself? Is it the same as the Spain getting xenophobic of Africans who illegitimately cross-over their boundaries? I would love to hear what are the reasons or on what basis Japanese people are xenophobic, as stated by your teacher that you will willingly promote the idea here that they "must" be xenophobes. U will kno why |
DiginarcissaJul 3, 2015 1:49 AM
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Haeduans said: japanese people don't like outsider to begin with. they are also very patriotic country. they even don't want make any agreetment with outsider until western force them to do it. even after that, there is still ribbelion that want to kick outsider from japan. and that not stop until they get wiped. and they also have long blooded history with mainland (korea and china). they even get colonized by mongols. gladly they are lose in WW2.Xenophobic of what? other cultures with different practices, or the biological constitution itself? Is it the same as the Spain getting xenophobic of Africans who illegitimately cross-over their boundaries? I would love to hear what are the reasons or on what basis Japanese people are xenophobic, as stated by your teacher that you will willingly promote the idea here that they "must" be xenophobes. |
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| In China you can call someone fat without appear as mean. When I was there it was a girl with the nickname Fatso, cuz she was fat when she was little. The girl i was staying with pointed out a guy and said: "that fat guy over there is smartest in school!!" And her parents often told me that if I would live in their house for a year and ate their food I would get fat as their daughter. |
Rimygod said: I love the way seiyuus say "baka". I think I'd be turned on by that if I lived in Japan. 0:09 |
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Unyilkdr said: Haeduans said: japanese people don't like outsider to begin with. they are also very patriotic country. they even don't want make any agreetment with outsider until western force them to do it. even after that, there is still ribbelion that want to kick outsider from japan. Xenophobic of what? other cultures with different practices, or the biological constitution itself? Is it the same as the Spain getting xenophobic of Africans who illegitimately cross-over their boundaries? I would love to hear what are the reasons or on what basis Japanese people are xenophobic, as stated by your teacher that you will willingly promote the idea here that they "must" be xenophobes. What you've just described is basically how every country in this world that had they're own long history to achieve liberty thought about outsider tbh. |
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zetsu_shoren said: ------ Very informative, this is for you: |
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tr1ckst3r said: nope, most of country (very rare county full closed their country. as far as i know, only japan and ethopia do this. correct me if i am wrong.) are oppened to international trading, even chinase that called very closed country have sutra street acroos mid asia to middle east and europe. when japan close them at all, they blind about everything outside their country start they kick mongols until they forced to open their country by western.Unyilkdr said: What you've just described is basically how every country in this world that had they're own long history to achieve liberty thought about outsider tbh.japanese people don't like outsider to begin with. they are also very patriotic country. they even don't want make any agreetment with outsider until western force them to do it. even after that, there is still ribbelion that want to kick outsider from japan. |
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Riki_Oh said: They probably overexaggerate it to develop the character, seems more like teasing than bullying most of the time Open insult serve as a tools to advancing the story plot too. |
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Unyilkdr said: Dnt 4get that Korea also closed its doors nope, most of country (very rare county full closed their country. as far as i know, only japan and ethopia do this. correct me if i am wrong.) are oppened to international trading, even chinase that called very closed country have sutra street acroos mid asia to middle east and europe. when japan close them at all, they blind about everything outside their country start they kick mongols until they forced to open their country by western. And yeah. As far as I know, Tokugawa era was brutal to Christian Missionaries from the Spanish East Indies/Philippines. Many were martyred and persecuted to death coz they believe Christianity will destroy their Shogunate for its progressive ideals (especially Jesuits. They are so progressive). Iirc, they begun to open doors again during the Meiji Restoration |
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Deus-Vult said: korea (north) do this after WW2, so i don't count it. yes, they even excuted lot of missionaries that reject to glorify emperor, not because shougun, but emperor prestige. yes kingdom get hold by shogun, but highest place still hold by emperor. then why buddhist can enter? buddhist can admit to glorify emperor.Unyilkdr said: Dnt 4get that Korea also closed its doors nope, most of country (very rare county full closed their country. as far as i know, only japan and ethopia do this. correct me if i am wrong.) are oppened to international trading, even chinase that called very closed country have sutra street acroos mid asia to middle east and europe. when japan close them at all, they blind about everything outside their country start they kick mongols until they forced to open their country by western. And yeah. As far as I know, Tokugawa era was brutal to Christian Missionaries from the Spanish East Indies/Philippines. Many were martyred and persecuted to death coz they believe Christianity will destroy their Shogunate for its progressive ideals (especially Jesuits. They are so progressive). Iirc, they begun to open doors again during the Meiji Restoration |
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Unyilkdr said: no no no I mean Imperial Korea especially those dynasties before Joseon. And Shogunates are the result of a succesful attept of Daimyos to overthrow the emperor of Japan. That's why they called it Meiji Restoration bcoz they restored the empreor's throne. No, Japan's state religion isn't buddhism but Shintoism and the emperor is venerated as a godDeus-Vult said: korea (north) do this after WW2, so i don't count it. yes, they even excuted lot of missionaries that reject to glorify emperor, not because shougun, but emperor prestige. yes kingdom get hold by shogun, but highest place still hold by emperor. then why buddhist can enter? buddhist can admit to glorify emperor.Dnt 4get that Korea also closed its doors And yeah. As far as I know, Tokugawa era was brutal to Christian Missionaries from the Spanish East Indies/Philippines. Many were martyred and persecuted to death coz they believe Christianity will destroy their Shogunate for its progressive ideals (especially Jesuits. They are so progressive). Iirc, they begun to open doors again during the Meiji Restoration |
DiginarcissaJul 3, 2015 3:18 AM
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_Charl said: someday milordyou should join crusade deus vult Someday FGAU1912 said: except the united states tho (well not rly invaded but still, the US held Japan for a few months)Japanese main land has never been invaded by a fogrin force |
DiginarcissaJul 3, 2015 3:23 AM
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Deus-Vult said: thanks for information, japan include in our class because they colonized us, don't know anything about korea.no no no I mean Imperial Korea especially those dynasties before Joseon. And Shogunates are the result of a succesful attept of Daimyos to overthrow the emperor of Japan. That's why they called it Meiji Restoration bcoz they restored the empreor's throne and even in shogun era, they need emperor permit to select next shogun. they in there just to be symbol. meiji revolution happened because tokugawa fail to stabilized japan after big ribbelion and lost confidence from local daimyos because ereasing land ownership and the abolition of the nobility. so yes, meiji revolution start by daimyous. but in the end after meiji revolution, tokugawa family still get high place, and daimyou that reject ereasing land ownership and the abolition of the nobility get eredicated by emperor because emperor continuing what tokugawa do (lel). |
KumaJul 3, 2015 3:27 AM
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| I don't actually want to butt in in regards of matters concerning national history, but the reason why this statement might spurts out time to time, "Many were martyred and persecuted to death coz they believe Christianity will destroy their Shogunate for its progressive ideals" ..is not because of hindrance alone for their world domination together with axis powers, these records of brutal killings and martyrdom from colonies are largely the effect of homeland nuclear bombing in Japan. Like for instance, in Philippines, when the remaining soldiers felt that they have no escape routes at all, they started to turn into frenzy and just shoot everywhere they can see on streets. Sure, there is an element in brutality during the colonization process, but this was also confused to the psychological aftermaths of slowly realizing a defeat in war. But, in regards of that xenophobic tendencies, I just want to remind that why I did ask someone to elaborate further on the said matter was because the commentor believed that xenophobia rises out of racism, or maybe the other way around. Can xenophobia alone make you "believe" that a country is undergoing IN A STATE OF RAMPANT RACISM? Based on what? I felt the need not to discuss this further in university level, since this is an anime thread, but if you insist that is solely the case, did you pander for a moment what is the nature of racism that it allows you to attribute it on a national level, as is the case for Japan, just because of one instance of their closed-door policy? Is it a basis for xenophobia? Hmm |
HaeduansJul 3, 2015 3:28 AM
Unyilkdr said: so they simply ended their own Medieval ageDeus-Vult said: thanks for information, japan include in our class because they colonized us, don't know anything about korea.no no no I mean Imperial Korea especially those dynasties before Joseon. And Shogunates are the result of a succesful attept of Daimyos to overthrow the emperor of Japan. That's why they called it Meiji Restoration bcoz they restored the empreor's throne and even in shogun era, they need emperor permit to select next shogun. they in there just to be symbol. meiji revolution happened because tokugawa fail to stabilized japan after big ribbelion and lost confidence from local daimyos because ereasing land ownership and the abolition of the nobility. so yes, meiji revolution start by daimyous. but in the end after meiji revolution, tokugawa family still get high place, and daimyou that reject ereasing land ownership and the abolition of the nobility get eredicated by emperor because emperor continuing what tokugawa do (lel). Thanks for the info brod FGAU1912 said: yep that wa not a invasion we had daledy surrender But if the japs didn't surrender immediately, they will hav the same fate with what happened to Deutschland |
DiginarcissaJul 3, 2015 3:32 AM
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| closing doors doesn't exclusively mean the country is undergoing in a state of patriotic oneness to drive away external forces OUT OF XENOPHOBIA OR RACISM.. it's more than that |
Haeduans said: japan is not racist, they are fasist! they are leader of asian (dunno in another asian country, but in my country, it called 3N propaganda) they feel supperrior compare to another asia people, thay are most advance country in asia. and will lead asia to world superpower and beat western.But, in regards of that xenophobic tendencies, I just want to remind that why I did ask someone to elaborate further on the said matter was because the commentor believed that xenophobia rises out of racism, or maybe the other way around. Can xenophobia alone make you "believe" that a country is undergoing IN A STATE OF RAMPANT RACISM? Based on what? I felt the need not to discuss this further in university level, since this is an anime thread, but if you insist that is solely the case, did you pander for a moment what is the nature of racism that it allows you to attribute it on a national level, as is the case for Japan, just because of one instance of their closed-door policy? Is it a basis for xenophobia? Hmm |
KumaJul 3, 2015 3:39 AM
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Haeduans said: since Japanese people believe that there are higher than any race, its really reasonable that they were racist to other races especially Chinese and Americansclosing doors doesn't exclusively mean the country is undergoing in a state of patriotic oneness to drive away external forces OUT OF XENOPHOBIA OR RACISM.. it's more than that |
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TheBasedNico said: i am talking about WW2, they learn their place after 2 you mamams come to them.Unyilkdr said: nyga carya shits on japen's animey and mangojapan is not racist, they are fasist! they are leader of asian (dunno in another asian country, but in my country, it called 3N propaganda) they feel supperrior compare to another asia people, thay are most advance country in asia. and will lead asia to world superpower and beat western. we da reel mvps of ayzya |
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TheBasedNico said: come at me bro.>WW2 ey das raycess i take ufense |
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FGAU1912 said: was necessary thoie a war crime another war crime us never got called up on coz if Soviet Union and US invaded by land, moar casualties will be generated maybe millions of japs and allied forces will be dead and Nanking nevr 4get (but im ok with wat japs did to Nanking tho) |
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Deus-Vult said: Haeduans said: since Japanese people believe that there are higher than any race, its really reasonable that they were racist to other races especially Chinese and Americansclosing doors doesn't exclusively mean the country is undergoing in a state of patriotic oneness to drive away external forces OUT OF XENOPHOBIA OR RACISM.. it's more than that Yes, you might be correct in that Japan can assume a degree of superiority over its neighboring countries, what I was opposing to, is the ambiguous or perhaps, vague usage of the term "racism" to validate the assumption of superiority. For instance, why would we have xenophobic cases of RACISM BETWEEN BLACK PEOPLE IN SOUTHERN AFRICA? Yes, they discriminate each other too, when in fact, they are of the same physiological constitution (at least!) Why in Spain, even though there are four waves of Black communities that migrated, and some waves were able to acquire intellectual endeavors through university and research breakthroughs, still suffer this racism? Eh? If xenophobia is indeed, a "bugged" word that is meant to be used for general usage, and xenophobia thus, will not relate then with racism, on what terms does this "superiority" contributes to the nature of racism that people just gladly use it whenever they like, not knowing it is actually AN OFFENSIVE CONCEPT by just putting it in a wrong context and syntax-argument. There are many factors to racism, like economy stability, and INSTITUTION. You can not even explain the racism of gypsies in India just by merely stating it's because the whole nation is a racist. I wish not to plow in, just be careful and use the term racism "with caution". One is not even meant to explain why must Japan FEEL SUPERIOR OVER AMERICA, if you just see it like this, it's very simple right? Then, in what terms and conditions are they equal to each other that one should be deemed as superior to another, and thus call it a matter of racism? This is highly debatable in philosophical communities, that you can only be superior over something or someone else if both involved parties or people have exactly been experiencing the same way of LIFE-CONDITIONS since they were born. That means, you cannot really attribute yourself as superior to that kid who got a 95% grade in Math, and you got 96%, when in fact, you studied for MORE THAN 5 SECONDS than what the other kid did. Same applies to location/setting. people. conditions, facticity, etc. So basically no one can affirm superiority over others unless they are completely astral drops or exact copies of one another (including experiences). |
HaeduansJul 3, 2015 4:16 AM
_Charl said: sry bruhthen when we revolt wtih crusade to eradicate fascism I support fascism tho (Falange style) as a substitute of right theocratic monarchy lmao |
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