World Trigger Chapter 107 Discussion

Joreedemer said:

To me that emblem looks more like gorilla's teeth than dinosaurs's, but it is hardcore anyway.

Joreedemer said:

It didn't surprised me that much. You said on the last thread that Arashiyama is more likely to be methodical, so he agreeing with Karasuma (who's methods are based on analysis) makes sense. He did accepted to train Osamu, so we'll see how that goes.

I still think that Izumi will teach Osamu to play dirty (even more than now), while Arashiyama will teach him real shooter tactics.

p-kun said:
I'm mostly surprised that sensei dares to imply that Osamu will be support character forever unless he changes his weapon, in a shounen manga!! I like it, as my model for Osamu's future is a certain villain in glasses who has no attack skill at all.

Izumi should teach Osamu all of Ninomiya's weak points and how to play dirty to defeat him >:D.

Dragon_Slayer_X said:
Well considering the guy had to hear "You're too weak" or "You still didn't get any points yourself" several times.......it's not surprising that Osamu got a little impatient. The last part with Nasu hurt him more than expected. But he really do need a few more tricks up his sleeve so Osamu isn't entirely wrong here. It's not simply being power hungry........i think he is rushing it a bit (for good reasons though........Yuuma doesn't have much time and after knowing about Rinji).

Chung2 said:
]He talks big even knowing how mediocre his abilities are, which is what I don't like.

Chung2 said:
Thanks for this.

I agree with Arashiyama and Karasuma. Osamu's way too power hungry tbh He needs to chill and master the basics.

And I don't even know half the people mentioned in the 2nd portion LOL Who's Touma again? Kaguera? Izuho? Akane? Narasaka?

Izumi might teach Osamu to play dirty lol

Dragon_Slayer_X said:


What? Since when? Expect for 1 or 2 instance where he got overconfident, Osamu has been shown to be rather humble and avoid praise he doesn't deserve according to himself.

It's precisely because he knows how weak he is asking for trying to get stronger or at least have some new tricks before the next much. It's not like just skipping the basic training.........he needs some special training alongside the basics. Karasuma and Arashiyama aren't wrong but they don't know all of the circumstances.

All of Osamu's tricks are known already and he may very well get taken out first in the next match to prevent his strategies. Also his role as support will come to a stand still unless he improves his range of arsenals. The attack against Nasu was also a way for Osamu to test how strong he has become and he did it in a way so his team won't suffer even if he gets taken out. He suffered a big blow there. I will say it again, calling him power-hungry isn't right here........he has become a little desperate and impatient since he hasn't got any significant results for himself (Kikuchi and Ninomiya's talks don't help either) and also considering the circumstances.

Dues-aj said:


Touma is the number 1 sniper in Border
Narasaka is the number 2 sniper in Border
Akane is the Sniper of Nasu Squad
Izuho is Chika's friend from when she was in C-Rank
Kaguera Squad is going to be the second ranked B squad in the upcoming match

Zaku_Fan said:
Osamu can actually do a quick power up in a number of already existing ways as long as he gives up being like a Yuma solo hero act. He could
i) borrow trion from Chika has already been shown (though it might be used better initially as an ambush method with people chasing Osamu sudden running into a high trion asteriod)
ii) Lead bullets to slow down everyone followed by a Chika ibis shot problem is the requirement for being close to minimise dodges)
iii) Using embeded explosives ala during Nasu's match
iv) Wire traps ala Kitora

I would prefer i) and ii) though as it would create an impression of actual teamwork and an idea that Osamu + Chika = 1 A rank challenger

Joreedemer said:


I don't think that any of those methods would be effective, actually, I'm sure they would make him an even easier target than what he is now.
Using Chika's trion would cause his trigger to malfunction, rendering him useless in case of her bailing out (like in the invasion).
The Lead bullet requires the agility of an attacker combined with the skill to shoot while moving, Osamu has yet to learn how to shoot properly, and we all know that he is more likely to never develope the agility of an attacker.
I guess meteora uses a lot of trion, so Osamu would ran out of it quite fast.
And the wire traps that Kitora uses present the same problem as the led bullets, you need a certain level agility to place them without the enemy getting rid of you in the process.

For Osamu there is no short path towards being "powerfull" (power, is not the exact term, but I think my point is clear), he has to work hard on his training, and he would gradually improve.

Zaku_Fan said:
Osamu can actually do a quick power up in a number of already existing ways as long as he gives up being like a Yuma solo hero act. He could
i) borrow trion from Chika has already been shown (though it might be used better initially as an ambush method with people chasing Osamu sudden running into a high trion asteriod)
ii) Lead bullets to slow down everyone followed by a Chika ibis shot problem is the requirement for being close to minimise dodges)
iii) Using embeded explosives ala during Nasu's match
iv) Wire traps ala Kitora

I would prefer i) and ii) though as it would create an impression of actual teamwork and an idea that Osamu + Chika = 1 A rank challenger

Alternatively they could go with ricochet shooting which would benefit from Osamu putting in effort to train and get used to ricochet angles. As long as its not a sudden trion increase (unlikely given the style the manga's been going), it should be reasonable

Chung2 said:
That does not make him powerful. He'd still suck in solo combats. Chika won't be there at his side all the time. So it's really not improving his skills anyway.

Lead bullets requires high mobility skills to use. Osamu lacks it. So no to that as well.

Again those wire traps Kitora used requires a high mobility, he doesn't have it.

Let's face it, because of his low trion reserve as well as mediocre physical skills, Osamu more or less would be unable to attain the true power of an A-rank.

Zaku_Fan said:


He does not need to be powerful now. He needs to WIN to get onto the neighbourhood expedition team. Due to his natural deficiency, his improvement is basically time dependent, meaning he needs more time training.

If he's not able to get on the team, he either has to
i) Spend another season training while the expedition team goes off without them (possible)
ii) Go off illegally (also possible)

Currently the issue is of him succeeding in getting into the A ranks for a chance at the expedition which is the reason why he needs to "win", not the need to be "powerful" immediately

If you're a musclehead, your thinking will be basically "hulk smash". What do you do if you're shit at muscles? You DO NOT think "hulk smash". That would be both idiotic and suicidal. That is what Osamu is facing. If the answer is "lie down and beg for people to not beat you up", then the imaginative space needs to be broadened by quite a lot.

Chung2 said:
What's the gist of that first line? He needs to be an A-rank yet weak at the same time? Away team people need to be competent because you will be in an ENEMY territory so fighting cannot be avoided. It's not like they'll go and be like "hey we just came to look for our friends, you'll help ya?".

A possibility is just losing the thought of going in the neighbor world, and just let Yuma go to another team. While he spends time training.

Zaku_Fan said:


Being competent != soloing like Yuma. An A rank team does not mean everyone runs off and fights alone. Each member should cover the other's weakness instead of being a team (of sand) of supermen. And yes the term is team even if people keep trying to want WT to become a typical shonen.

As for letting Yuma go to another team, why would Yuma agree? The reason he would even agree to join Border was Chika and Osamu. The meta impact would be even worse because the question of why the manga suddenly became a single character manga when the entire series has been moving on the three?