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May 31, 2015 12:11 PM

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I read answer before I watched it... I can only say that I wish people would stop saying things like:

ProphecyPriest said:
This episode was supposed to be the ultimate clash of ideals and peak psychological warfare at its finest, a pure genius literature showing what makes Kinoko Nasu deemed as one of the best writers in the entire animanga. And no I'm not joking, it's just THAT good.


Because when you go into it after having heard things like this over and over again from multiple people, it will never live up to expectations. It's overhyped if not necessarily overrated.
May 31, 2015 12:18 PM

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But well, after reading something like Chinese cartoon porns that lack proper stories a dozen of times already, it would be understatement that this scene was simply "good" even from objective view. Unless you simply had no feelings, of course.

I agree though that being overhyped can be a bad thing, even if it's humanly to do so. Muv-Luv Total Eclipse anime is one of them, it's supposed to be an anime gate for people to know Muv-Luv series yet it felt extremely lacking in comparison.
May 31, 2015 12:26 PM

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ProphecyPriest said:
But well, after reading something like Chinese cartoon porns that lack proper stories a dozen of times already, it would be understatement that this scene was simply "good" even from objective view. Unless you simply had no feelings, of course.


Not sure what supposedly was missing that could have been added without dragging it out through constant monologues too much...
May 31, 2015 12:31 PM

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antonn said:


Its hilarious how prophetic this picture is.

Because that is about as much of shirou's development as we can get from ufoubw(minus flying swords, because we gotta deen it)
May 31, 2015 12:38 PM

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Is Assassin just sleeping through all this or somethin'?
"Hi!"
May 31, 2015 12:43 PM

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YEEART said:
Is Assassin just sleeping through all this or somethin'?


He can't leave the temple gate
May 31, 2015 12:44 PM

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YEEART said:
Is Assassin just sleeping through all this or somethin'?

for all we know, he isn't there anymore since his master is dead
May 31, 2015 12:45 PM

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fst said:
I read answer before I watched it... I can only say that I wish people would stop saying things like:

ProphecyPriest said:
This episode was supposed to be the ultimate clash of ideals and peak psychological warfare at its finest, a pure genius literature showing what makes Kinoko Nasu deemed as one of the best writers in the entire animanga. And no I'm not joking, it's just THAT good.


Because when you go into it after having heard things like this over and over again from multiple people, it will never live up to expectations. It's overhyped if not necessarily overrated.

Coming from a fatefag the bit about "peak psychological warfare at its finest, a pure genius literature " was a bit much lol.
YEEART said:
Is Assassin just sleeping through all this or somethin'?

Well if you assume he's alive, he can't step far from the temple gate anyway, which is his anchor to the world.
May 31, 2015 12:47 PM

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YEEART said:
Is Assassin just sleeping through all this or somethin'?

https://youtu.be/Wt4H_Do3X2Q?t=30s
May 31, 2015 12:56 PM

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antonn said:
YEEART said:
Is Assassin just sleeping through all this or somethin'?

https://youtu.be/Wt4H_Do3X2Q?t=30s


"Lancer died", that gave me a good laugh. I may pick it up.

Also, sasuga Assassin.
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May 31, 2015 1:06 PM
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Btw can someone explain how Gilgamesh was watching Archer vs Shirou when almost the entire fight was in UBW? I didn't know he had the skill to see through/sneak in a RM...

Wait... wouldn't this become a small plothole later?
May 31, 2015 1:09 PM

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Btw can someone explain how Gilgamesh was watching Archer vs Shirou when almost the entire fight was in UBW?

Wait... wouldn't this become a small plothole later?



You are right, I pointed this out last week. It is anime original stuff so nobody knows.
May 31, 2015 1:10 PM

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frenze12 said:
Btw can someone explain how Gilgamesh was watching Archer vs Shirou when almost the entire fight was in UBW? I didn't know he had the skill to see through/sneak in a RM...

Wait... wouldn't this become a small plothole later?


in the VN, UBW wasn't used at all, that's why he can see everything that happened. The use of UBW in the first place creates a plot hole in that it was shown literally seconds earlier that Archer was very low on mana... on top of it being shown in the previous episode that he was running too low to even sustain UBW. It doesn't make sense at all, quite simply UBW should not be used here.

You just kinda have to be willing to overlook all that for the thematic punch that using UBW here brings.
May 31, 2015 1:15 PM

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YEEART said:
antonn said:

https://youtu.be/Wt4H_Do3X2Q?t=30s


"Lancer died", that gave me a good laugh. I may pick it up.

Also, sasuga Assassin.


He's a farmer, Drying Pole sword is his wife, and Ryuudou Temple Gate is his partner.

Confirmed best and most YAMATO character in entire franchise.
May 31, 2015 1:19 PM

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Gov said:
Gil really needs to get his F/Z outfit back because the look he has now is lame. Guy can materialize a heart but not his armour?


He doesn't think they're worthy, lol.
thebrentinator24 said:
So Saber was able to detect Gil's swords but Archer couldn't? Whatever, at least that piece of shit Shinji got what he deserved. I knew he was fucked as soon as he called Gil a useless dumbass. I'd give the anime a 10/10 just for that scene. Let's see what next week brings us.....


She has instinct. Archer doesn't.
frenze12 said:
Btw can someone explain how Gilgamesh was watching Archer vs Shirou when almost the entire fight was in UBW? I didn't know he had the skill to see through/sneak in a RM...

Wait... wouldn't this become a small plothole later?


They ended the fight and the RM collapsed. That was probably the only part he saw.

ProphecyPriest said:
YEEART said:


"Lancer died", that gave me a good laugh. I may pick it up.

Also, sasuga Assassin.


He's a farmer, Drying Pole sword is his wife, and Ryuudou Temple Gate is his partner.

Confirmed best and most YAMATO character in entire franchise.


Did you just forget the kid of Seibah and Suckura?
*gasp*

I don't know what Yamato means, don't hit me!
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May 31, 2015 1:23 PM

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BTW This gilgamesh sucks.He called humans mongrel and he himself is wearing the clothes of mongrels.That is just not his type.Fate zero gil is much better compared to this.
May 31, 2015 1:24 PM

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^^"Yamato" is basically code for "JAPANESE NATIONALISM LOL"
May 31, 2015 1:25 PM

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clintonmadara said:
BTW This gilgamesh sucks.He called humans mongrel and he himself is wearing the clothes of mongrels.That is just not his type.Fate zero gil is much better compared to this.


UBW Gil a shit.

Y no Fate route UFO?
DamnThatsTheSpot said:
^^"Yamato" is basically code for "JAPANESE NATIONALISM LOL"


I see ~.~
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May 31, 2015 1:27 PM

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antonn said:
YEEART said:
Is Assassin just sleeping through all this or somethin'?

https://youtu.be/Wt4H_Do3X2Q?t=30s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_VGMiibypQ
May 31, 2015 1:32 PM

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clintonmadara said:
BTW This gilgamesh sucks.He called humans mongrel and he himself is wearing the clothes of mongrels.That is just not his type.Fate zero gil is much better compared to this.
You actually do realize he wears modern clothes in FZ too, right?

And OMG YOU MONGRELS STOP TAKING MY STUFF IM GONNA KILL YOU BASTARDS AND TAKE YOU AS MY WAIFU SABER is so much better. His character didn't really change.

...Was that just ignorance or bait?
May 31, 2015 1:35 PM

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Bait, I presume.
May 31, 2015 1:36 PM

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CapsuleCore said:
clintonmadara said:
BTW This gilgamesh sucks.He called humans mongrel and he himself is wearing the clothes of mongrels.That is just not his type.Fate zero gil is much better compared to this.
You actually do realize he wears modern clothes in FZ too, right?

And OMG YOU MONGRELS STOP TAKING MY STUFF IM GONNA KILL YOU BASTARDS AND TAKE YOU AS MY WAIFU SABER is so much better. His character didn't really change.

...Was that just ignorance or bait?


FZ Gil was more stylish, tho.

I'm just playing along, let meh!
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May 31, 2015 1:39 PM

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CapsuleCore said:
clintonmadara said:
BTW This gilgamesh sucks.He called humans mongrel and he himself is wearing the clothes of mongrels.That is just not his type.Fate zero gil is much better compared to this.
You actually do realize he wears modern clothes in FZ too, right?

Snakeskin pants and whatever this is:

aren't exactly modern clothes.
May 31, 2015 1:40 PM

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Lollo36 said:
CapsuleCore said:
You actually do realize he wears modern clothes in FZ too, right?

Snakeskin pants and whatever this is:

aren't exactly modern clothes.


They're just leggings and a white top, tho.
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May 31, 2015 1:45 PM

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Lollo36 said:
CapsuleCore said:
You actually do realize he wears modern clothes in FZ too, right?

Snakeskin pants and whatever this is:

aren't exactly modern clothes.
FZ said:
However, instead of wearing his original golden armor, this Heroic Spirit was donned in a modern match-up of a leather jacket with furs and fashionable leather pants.

The jacket was dropped, but no, Gil is wearing modern clothes.
May 31, 2015 1:48 PM

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CapsuleCore said:
Lollo36 said:

Snakeskin pants and whatever this is:

aren't exactly modern clothes.
FZ said:
However, instead of wearing his original golden armor, this Heroic Spirit was donned in a modern match-up of a leather jacket with furs and fashionable leather pants.

The jacket was dropped, but no, Gil is wearing modern clothes.


He had a jacket?

Wasn't that Fate?
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May 31, 2015 1:49 PM

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I think so. "Leather jacket with fur" sounds a lot like the jacket he wore in Fate.
May 31, 2015 1:53 PM

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May 31, 2015 1:56 PM

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clintonmadara said:
BTW This gilgamesh sucks.He called humans mongrel and he himself is wearing the clothes of mongrels.That is just not his type.Fate zero gil is much better compared to this.

Gil love his biker's clothes, you are just jealous of his beautifull clothes:

May 31, 2015 2:06 PM

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Leather jacket with fur?? I don't recall gil wearing that?
Does he wear it during his sleep?
May 31, 2015 2:09 PM

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clintonmadara said:
Leather jacket with fur?? I don't recall gil wearing that?
Does he wear it during his sleep?


It was white with fur in the fate route I believe
May 31, 2015 2:13 PM

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clintonmadara said:
Leather jacket with fur?? I don't recall gil wearing that?
Does he wear it during his sleep?

This:


Or this:
May 31, 2015 2:17 PM

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clintonmadara said:
Leather jacket with fur?? I don't recall gil wearing that?
Does he wear it during his sleep?
I just said the jacket was dropped in the adaptation, but Gil nonetheless still wears clothes from the modern era in FZ.

This is probably the jacket Urobuchi was referring to. He wore it in Fate:


Well that or that other horrible thing he wore in FHA in that one scene.
May 31, 2015 2:19 PM

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Guilek said:

Or this:


My eyes...THEY'RE BURNING >,<
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May 31, 2015 2:19 PM

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They missed a great opportunity not making that second pic his regular outfit here.
May 31, 2015 2:22 PM

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Insertanamehere said:
They missed a great opportunity not making that second pic his regular outfit here.
Even Takeuchi realized that this outfit was stupid, so he did not bother using the sprites for FSN.
May 31, 2015 2:22 PM

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mira-nyan said:
Guilek said:

Or this:


My eyes...THEY'RE BURNING >,<

The world isn't ready yet for this, the fire will kill the weak and only the strong will be worthy to see such beauty.
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Guilek said:
mira-nyan said:


My eyes...THEY'RE BURNING >,<

The world isn't ready yet for this, the fire will kill the weak and only the strong will be worthy to see such beauty.


Isn't that what Gil wants, tho?
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CapsuleCore said:
Insertanamehere said:
They missed a great opportunity not making that second pic his regular outfit here.
Even Takeuchi realized that this outfit was stupid, so he did not bother using the sprites for FSN.

I don't think you need to be a genius to figure out it looks stupid lol

Though I think it was that they didn't even bother making other sprites besides that because of how stupid it looks, IIRC.
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ProphecyPriest said:
Guilek said:

The world isn't ready yet for this, the fire will kill the weak and only the strong will be worthy to see such beauty.

Isn't that what Gil wants, tho?

Clearly all his plan are a pretext, for being able to wear this fashion clothes without the jealousy from the mongrels.
May 31, 2015 4:19 PM

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Shrimperor said:
Compare


I don't care what anybody says. They did a really good job adapting this.

The only thing lacking is Saber's "why?".
May 31, 2015 4:19 PM

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Looks like we get dolphins in next episode. Not sure if I am looking forward to it...
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May 31, 2015 4:22 PM

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I just hate this ass-pulls from shirou
He gets better by connecting and touching archer...
That is so full of an shit attempt to make the plot more intense...
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May 31, 2015 4:24 PM

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IheartC2 said:

He gets better by connecting and touching archer...


Lewd.
May 31, 2015 4:26 PM

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IheartC2 said:
full of shit ass-pulls from shirou gets better by connecting and touching archer...


( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
May 31, 2015 4:27 PM

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IheartC2 said:
I just hate this ass-pulls from shirou
He gets better by connecting and touching archer...
That is so full of an shit attempt to make the plot more intense...


It's what happens when two of the same person are in one universe ~.~
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May 31, 2015 4:29 PM

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IheartC2 said:
I just hate this ass-pulls from shirou
He gets better by connecting and touching archer...
That is so full of an shit attempt to make the plot more intense...

You'd think someone who interacts with his younger self would create some sort of anomaly. That is simply how the Fate series (and probably the whole Nasuverse) deals with it.
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mira-nyan said:
IheartC2 said:
I just hate this ass-pulls from shirou
He gets better by connecting and touching archer...
That is so full of an shit attempt to make the plot more intense...


It's what happens when two of the same person are in one universe ~.~

or it could have a disastrous opposite effect...
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IheartC2 said:
mira-nyan said:


It's what happens when two of the same person are in one universe ~.~

or it could have a disastrous opposite effect...

It was disastrous, for the most part. What happens when you let Archer do his thing? The whole Unlimited Blade Works route. Just to prove he is right when compared to his younger self.
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IheartC2 said:
I just hate this ass-pulls from shirou
He gets better by connecting and touching archer...
That is so full of an shit attempt to make the plot more intense...
shirou had been getting feedback from Archer since ep 3....
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