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| Can we just skip to the last boss where Natsu defeats Zeref with a finger flick? Whatever the point of this arc was it failed pretty utterly. It doesn't give any sense of scale of power because Natsu is just defeating everything in one hit. Great Natsu is really powerful...that's helpful. |
FlareKnight said: Can we just skip to the last boss where Natsu defeats Zeref with a finger flick? Whatever the point of this arc was it failed pretty utterly. It doesn't give any sense of scale of power because Natsu is just defeating everything in one hit. Great Natsu is really powerful...that's helpful.  |
| This arc didn't really have a purpose. Coming of Tartaros(second best arc in the series) they should've had the reunion tied with a big arc and make that the final arc of Fairy Tail. Avatar was just to showcase Fairy Tail's strength Natsu became to powerful. That would be The equivalent of Luffy being admiral level after his own timeskip And if Hiro wanted to make this win more legit he could've shown Natsu in a slightly altered demonic form since he technically is the strongest demon Zeref created. That way we could have more build up to the overall story |
Isterio said: Fabuzer said: Fairy Tail was interesting before the first time skip. Now there is even more nakama talk than One Piece, and it's all about disappointing antagonists. Seriously, why the hell did Mashima waste one whole panel to show the mighty God of War, then draws Natsu owning him like nothing? And all that monologue, like we didn't hear that stuff in every other chapter. Because Mashima is retarded and his writing has gone down the depths of Tartatus. He needs a woman in his life, all this horny subtext must come from somewhere. He also needs and Editor that tells him to cut the shit. This is just to show how strong everyone has gotten after a year of training like the first episode of fairy tail when Natsu owned the fake salamander. After this they are probably bring back Fairy Tail and some emotional stuff is gonna go down then Natsu is gonna have his final battle with Zeref and Acnologia. Secrets will be revealed and more emotional stuff is gonna go down, so deal with it and wait until the next actual arc. |
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| Oneshoting a God seems like bullshit. Was he in his weakest state from recent summoning or something? Not enough souls for first meal? I can only think of this being possible if Natsu somehow managed to merge God Slayer magic with Dragon Slayer Magic. Since he is also a demon that might be possible. Natsu eating Zancrow God Slayer magic was important even for Makarov to take note of it. Natsu might also have hidden power from Zeref. Only after getting in contact with the book of END it surfaced giving him power up. This giant power up in one year of training is insane. |
SleepnDreamnMay 11, 2015 5:36 PM
Isterio said: If you think at this point that Fairy tail has even remotely the writing quality of the Big 3 then you just have no respect for literature. Ehhhhhh, I'd put it above Bleach |
| after all these years of fanboying... i didn't think i'll be surprised anymore about this manga.... but nooooo....GODS are one (two) hit ko now.. i'ts like reading a kids fanfiction |
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| I so want to drop this manga now. First Gray's decent storyline gone by making him a goodguy and not getting a beating. Then this. Uhhhh, Mashima, why, you can do so much better, you proved it gazillion times. |
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sweet5 said: Pros: 1. - Natsu and the rest of the team have developed strength wise. (And it was pretty cool imo) 2. Natsu remembering igneel probably the first time during this time skip was very sweet. Cons: The villains were VERY disappointing. ( Seriously though hiro, don't waste time building them up if they were going to get one-shotted in the end. I mean u had the guy summon A FREAKIN GOD and made natsu defeat him like it was nothing. Plus the avatar members and their powers sucked balls.) Well at least this arc is ending. Hopefully the fights in the future are going to have legitimate fighting instad of just another demonstration on how powerful natsu is now. Trust me Hiro, Natsu ONE-SHOTTING a GOD was a clear picture of his strength. Just want to find all these fairy tail members already so we can get to the good stuff. Like... -Is gray really going to kill frosch? -E.N.D'S appearance -Zeref -Acnologia -where the heck is Makarov?! Crossing my fingers that the announcement has something to do with a new movie. Well I agree with you like 70%. Your cons don't make since cuz u can basically think of this as the first episode of a new series where they show off the characters power. Avatar did ot suck dick Natsu and them were just super strong that was what hiro was trying to show. And before u say they did remember that even the magic council was worried about them. I like your likes and agree that I wanna get to the part where FT is back and questions answered, but come on this was a good arc it showed how beast Natsu and the others got and it was not just avatar and the God remeber Blue Note who it took Gildarts to beat, This time Natsu beat him with one attack, I mean u have to admit this was a good arc for displaying how strong everyone got and if u are still mad deal with it cuz Natsu had to become overpowered of he is to stand a chance in the final battle with Zeref and Acnologia. Oh and E.N.D is Natsu remember Zeref said it. |
KingAce261May 11, 2015 7:35 PM
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CookingPriest said: I so want to drop this manga now. First Gray's decent storyline gone by making him a goodguy and not getting a beating. Then this. Uhhhh, Mashima, why, you can do so much better, you proved it gazillion times. How do u know Gray's whole turn evil kill Frosch is gone all future rogue said was a year after Grand Magic Games he never specified a date. Plus if that did happen then he would just be copying Naruto I like it better with gray being good and come on man think of Juvia, she can't stand not being with gray and is a fairy tail wizard and Gray has and always will be part of the fairy tail family don't go killing a longer than 14 year bond. |
KingAce261May 11, 2015 7:33 PM
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CookingPriest said: I so want to drop this manga now. First Gray's decent storyline gone by making him a goodguy and not getting a beating. Then this. Uhhhh, Mashima, why, you can do so much better, you proved it gazillion times. So even though you've loved most of the series and praised the Tartarus arc up and down, yet story developments in a mini arc somehow ruined the whole series for you? Your opinions turn around so fast its nuts. |
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trump54 said: Naruto was awful for long periods with only a few highlight arc Part 1 Naruto, while still flawed, surpasses Fairy Tail in just about every category |
KingAce261 said: sweet5 said: Pros: 1. - Natsu and the rest of the team have developed strength wise. (And it was pretty cool imo) 2. Natsu remembering igneel probably the first time during this time skip was very sweet. Cons: The villains were VERY disappointing. ( Seriously though hiro, don't waste time building them up if they were going to get one-shotted in the end. I mean u had the guy summon A FREAKIN GOD and made natsu defeat him like it was nothing. Plus the avatar members and their powers sucked balls.) Well at least this arc is ending. Hopefully the fights in the future are going to have legitimate fighting instad of just another demonstration on how powerful natsu is now. Trust me Hiro, Natsu ONE-SHOTTING a GOD was a clear picture of his strength. Just want to find all these fairy tail members already so we can get to the good stuff. Like... -Is gray really going to kill frosch? -E.N.D'S appearance -Zeref -Acnologia -where the heck is Makarov?! Crossing my fingers that the announcement has something to do with a new movie. Well I agree with you like 70%. Your cons don't make since cuz u can basically think of this as the first episode of a new series where they show off the characters power. Avatar did ot suck dick Natsu and them were just super strong that was what hiro was trying to show. And before u say they did remember that even the magic council was worried about them. I like your likes and agree that I wanna get to the part where FT is back and questions answered, but come on this was a good arc it showed how beast Natsu and the others got and it was not just avatar and the God remeber Blue Note who it took Gildarts to beat, This time Natsu beat him with one attack, I mean u have to admit this was a good arc for displaying how strong everyone got and if u are still mad deal with it cuz Natsu had to become overpowered of he is to stand a chance in the final battle with Zeref and Acnologia. Not that I'm trying to totally disagree with you here, but I'm just going to address some points into what you just said: "Your cons don't make since cuz u can basically think of this as the first episode of a new series where they show off the characters power." 1- First of all, I already stated in my pros that I liked that this arc demonstrated the teams' developed strength. Infact, I thought almost everybody looked BADASS at some point. " Avatar did ot suck dick Natsu and them were just super strong that was what hiro was trying to show" 2- Are you kidding me?! The avatar villains were terrible! -one caused stomach aches -one could only clone themselves -one got goats to lick people's feet -the puppeteer guy...See, I already forgot what happen to him! Jerome and the master were okay, but that's besides the point. These people were supposed to be a part of a new era, as said by the arlock guy (refer back to 424) but they were taken down in one-punch. *_*. The GOD almost didn't even get to do a single thing! And we won't ever know how powerful it was now because it was defeated within a span of 5 pages. " but come on this was a good arc it showed how beast Natsu and the others got and it was not just avatar and the God remeber Blue Note who it took Gildarts to beat, This time Natsu beat him with one attack, I mean u have to admit this was a good arc for displaying how strong everyone got and if u are still mad deal with it cuz Natsu had to become overpowered of he is to stand a chance in the final battle with Zeref and Acnologia." 3- I never said this was a bad arc. I just mean it could've been better. And yes like you said, Natsu one-shotting Bluenote was a good demonstation of his power. But all that means is that there really was no need for mashima to make Natsu do a one-shot finale twice if we were already clarified that fact. (I won't lie though. He did look epic in both of those attacks) Overall the arc was just a bunch of pointless build-up that lead to disappointment. Yes, the fairy tail team are all powerful now, but if that can't be illustrated in a legitimate fight then that just makes everything confusing and makes people like me worried about how fights are going to go in the future. |
sweet5May 11, 2015 8:35 PM
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Isterio said: trump54 said: Naruto was awful for long periods with only a few highlight arc you just have no respect for literature. First and last time I´m gonna repeat myself. Bringing back people who were assumed to be dead can be annoying, but Hiro has done this already alongside Oda Kishi and Kubo, it´s forgiveable if done right. As a person who never got really mad at the GMG or Jellal because I knew what was coming I though this series was mediocore to good. But repeatdieately pulling the same shit over and over again knowing you do wrong is just a sin as an author, Done, no more debate wether Fairy tail is a quality manga. It´s enjoyable, certainly there are many parts I like and some of the damage is salvageable, but Hiro keeps putting out shit like this whenever he runs out of ideas. So this is worse that Kishi bringing back Obito from disintegrating and providing Kakashi with his eye which was also disintegrated and Kakashi pulling a perfect susanno? The chapter was bad but don't pull bs and try to act above every one with belittling them. |
| Wow, how boring. No wonder they're doing double chapters, trying to get past this shit arc asap I guess. |
| People seem to really love jumping the gun about gods. Or should I point out that Warrod is one of the four gods of Ishval? This so called god of War was about as big as the giants from the Sun Village. So again people acting like he should be some kind of omnipotent entity when he's just someone really powerful and really big to average people. Take a look at the extent of what said god did. He lumbered slowly and made one SLOW slash but devastating slash and didn't even pull his sword back out after that to shake it off while Natsu clambered up it. THat was no real god. Just a huge monster labeled a god. Compare this god's feats to the fight that the King of the Celestial Spirits had with Marde. You honestly can tell me you can call that mindless brute a god? Seriously? You people just love to misinterpret Mashima and bash on him for sport. Galaxia blade was MUCH more damaging than this God's slash anyway |
Darklight0303May 12, 2015 1:01 AM
| Fairy Tail's battles have always been hacks, lacks intensity even for a shounen manga. So I wasn't surprised when that god got split in half but Natsu, alone. It's just his friendship talk that is unbearable. If he didn't do that speech, the god kill would have been more accepting. |
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Isterio said: IndoExamurai said: Fairy Tail's battles have always been hacks, lacks intensity even for a shounen manga. So I wasn't surprised when that god got split in half but Natsu, alone. It's just his friendship talk that is unbearable. If he didn't do that speech, the god kill would have been more accepting. The cringe was that it was Natsu alone and it was a oneshot+it was a godamn GOD. No Fairy tail wasn´t always a oneshot fest, they always get overhyped but they got pushed back a couple of times, even though the fights are pretty similar to One Piece, aka I throw my shit at you then you throw your shit at me and we do this till one loses. IT WAS SOMETHING PEOPLE CALLED A GOD. THAT DOESN'T MAKE IT A TRUE GOD. HELL IT DID NOT EVEN SPEAK ANNOUNCING ITSELF JUST JUST WENT HULK SMASH IN NATSU'S DIRECTION AND THEN WATCHED HIM STUPIDLY AS HE CLIMBED UP HIS BODY Even the various Colossus in Shadow of the Colosus exhibited more intelligence than this guy |
Darklight0303May 12, 2015 1:46 AM
| Alright chapter. 3.2/5 Wondering about the announcement though... I hope there's an OVA adaptation of the Grand Magic Games Penalty Game between Team A and B... :3 |
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Isterio said: Darklight0303 said: IT WAS SOMETHING PEOPLE CALLED A GOD. THAT DOESN'T MAKE IT A TRUE GOD. HELL IT DID NOT EVEN SPEAK ANNOUNCING ITSELF JUST JUST WENT HULK SMASH IN NATSU'S DIRECTION AND THEN WATCHED HIM STUPIDLY AS HE CLIMBED UP HIS BODY If you´d know one thing about japanese culture you´d know that Kamis/Gods are nothing like the christian god, they are pretty human just way more powerful. Still as a writer, Hiro intended something by naming things demons/gods/dragons. The point of the matter is.YOU DONT DO THAT! It´s a dickmove towards the audience and Hiro has proven yet again that he´s a shit writer whenever he pleases cause he knows people read his shit anyway. I honestly hope that the sales will drop this year. Tartarus deserved all the praise, but Hiro just degraded himself once again. Fairy Tail was decent to good till Tenru Island. After this arc , he just doesn´t kno how to write his arcs anymore besides Tartarus. You are simply adorable if you think an arc that was over this quick will have any noticeable impact on sales. Only big arcs like Tartarus can influence sales. This Arc became completely irrelevant the moment Gray was revealed to be a Mole. An interlude before returning to the main plot. The only potential for it and anything in it to be of any real importance died with Gray's Villain status. Also you really love to flaunt your own self imposed rules. First lets look at the demons. We have the Galuna demons and then the Tartaros demons. Both demons and they are nothing alike to each other. You are stubbornly sticking to your self imposed expectations of gods. I will say it again Dragons > Gods or else Gods would not have allowed Dragons to run rampant at the top of the foodchain preying on their potential followers. This God was a god in name only. That's it. Where are the temples, where are the believers of these so called gods? There aren't any. Certainly not in Fiore. This was merely a super powerful summon. When not facing someone who got his magic from the KING OF FIRE DRAGONS. Also correct me if I'm wrong but didn't several of the Tartaros demons LOSE TO NON DEVIL SLAYER MAGIC? Oh wait they did. Again proving that Dragons were top guns because only magic that can harm them is Dragon Slayer magic while all other species so far have been able to be harmed by magics that are STRONG enough. Let me put it simply so you get it. Devil Slayer magic: Does most damage against Demons but Demons CAN still take damage from any other magic God Slayer magic: Theoretically the same as Devil Slayer Magic Dragon Slayer magic; THE ONLY MAGIC KNOWN TO AT LEAST AFFECT DRAGONS See the difference? |
Darklight0303May 12, 2015 3:18 AM
Isterio said: IndoExamurai said: Fairy Tail's battles have always been hacks, lacks intensity even for a shounen manga. So I wasn't surprised when that god got split in half but Natsu, alone. It's just his friendship talk that is unbearable. If he didn't do that speech, the god kill would have been more accepting. The cringe was that it was Natsu alone and it was a oneshot+it was a godamn GOD. No Fairy tail wasn´t always a oneshot fest, they always get overhyped but they got pushed back a couple of times, even though the fights are pretty similar to One Piece, aka I throw my shit at you then you throw your shit at me and we do this till one loses. Yea same formula different execution. That's how I see it. I admit though when the whole god thing got summoned, there was some small hope in me that this was gonna be intense, that we are going to be seeing something really badass from Fairy Tail. But then of course you see Natsu by himself running up the god's blade, and at that moment I knew, my hopes dash, that Natsu was going to pump out the whole repetitive friendship speech. A silent run and punch would've been just fine. *sigh |
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Isterio said: Darklight0303 said: I didn´t read this because it´s just another bad argument to excuse Hiros poor writing which is at it´s depths again currently. You are the guy who viciously pounded on Gray being actually bad I was the guy who said no way in hell, it´s a troll. I said it multiple times and when it was revealed 5 chapters ago, I danced the "called that shit dance". Now Hiro pulls massive bullshit and I´m telling you the bullshit will not stop,it will reoccur and leave.while you try to jusify bullshit for the sake of justifying bullshit. See ya when you´ve dropped the series writing hate revuews about how much of a waste of time it was. Anyway don´t try to make me talk to you again,I won´t respond anymore. I viciously pounded on Gray? I WANTED HIM TO BE EVIL BECAUSE THE STORY WOULD HAVE BEEN BETTER. We had Gajeel and Lily and Levy coming to fight him, we had the prophecy from Future Rogue about Frosch. All of that just went poof. And lo and behold the moment Gray was proven to be a mole, the whole arc goes to shit. We also have Erza acting horribly out of character by ignoring Juvia and not even CHECKING UP ON HER even though she wasn't the one infiltrating Avatar to the point that she could have died in the rain if Original Team Natsu hadn't found her. To say nothing about how fucking retarded and useless the whole plan to infiltrate Avatar actually was. This whole mess is such an obvious last minute retcon due to reactions from the fanbase. This is why authors that don't listen to their fanbase and write their story the way they envisioned it are superior. Because shit like this doesn't happen. So congratulations for being right about something that destroyed any validity or potential that this arc even had. You really love petty victories huh |
Darklight0303May 12, 2015 4:05 AM
sweet5 said: KingAce261 said: Well I agree with you like 70%. Your cons don't make since cuz u can basically think of this as the first episode of a new series where they show off the characters power. Avatar did ot suck dick Natsu and them were just super strong that was what hiro was trying to show. And before u say they did remember that even the magic council was worried about them. I like your likes and agree that I wanna get to the part where FT is back and questions answered, but come on this was a good arc it showed how beast Natsu and the others got and it was not just avatar and the God remeber Blue Note who it took Gildarts to beat, This time Natsu beat him with one attack, I mean u have to admit this was a good arc for displaying how strong everyone got and if u are still mad deal with it cuz Natsu had to become overpowered of he is to stand a chance in the final battle with Zeref and Acnologia. Not that I'm trying to totally disagree with you here, but I'm just going to address some points into what you just said: "Your cons don't make since cuz u can basically think of this as the first episode of a new series where they show off the characters power." 1- First of all, I already stated in my pros that I liked that this arc demonstrated the teams' developed strength. Infact, I thought almost everybody looked BADASS at some point. " Avatar did ot suck dick Natsu and them were just super strong that was what hiro was trying to show" 2- Are you kidding me?! The avatar villains were terrible! -one caused stomach aches -one could only clone themselves -one got goats to lick people's feet -the puppeteer guy...See, I already forgot what happen to him! Jerome and the master were okay, but that's besides the point. These people were supposed to be a part of a new era, as said by the arlock guy (refer back to 424) but they were taken down in one-punch. *_*. The GOD almost didn't even get to do a single thing! And we won't ever know how powerful it was now because it was defeated within a span of 5 pages. " but come on this was a good arc it showed how beast Natsu and the others got and it was not just avatar and the God remeber Blue Note who it took Gildarts to beat, This time Natsu beat him with one attack, I mean u have to admit this was a good arc for displaying how strong everyone got and if u are still mad deal with it cuz Natsu had to become overpowered of he is to stand a chance in the final battle with Zeref and Acnologia." 3- I never said this was a bad arc. I just mean it could've been better. And yes like you said, Natsu one-shotting Bluenote was a good demonstation of his power. But all that means is that there really was no need for mashima to make Natsu do a one-shot finale twice if we were already clarified that fact. (I won't lie though. He did look epic in both of those attacks) Overall the arc was just a bunch of pointless build-up that lead to disappointment. Yes, the fairy tail team are all powerful now, but if that can't be illustrated in a legitimate fight then that just makes everything confusing and makes people like me worried about how fights are going to go in the future. Sorry I must have skipped over that one part where u stated that u liked how ever was badass but come on avatar did not suck no "Noramal wizard" could have beaten them why else do u think the magic council got involved. Okay I do agree this arc was a bit anti climatic but it's not like it was gonna be a big arc anyway I noticed that when Natsu and them dominated the avatar army and 1. Natsu did not 1 shot the god it took 2 with the second being his new badass move fire dragon king's crumbling fist 2. Even if it took a godslayer or someone else to take that thing down the most it would have been was an extra chapter. Though again I do agree this was anticlimactic I mean I was expecting some big brawl with avatar where Natsu and gray fight (surprise never thought that would happen *he said sarcastically) then the magic council shows up they meet up with levy and gajeel then whoop a avatars ass with only the boss and top six or whatever left. It would have been better if erza showed up saying something went wrong with the plan then Juvia and them show up and Juvia brings Gray to his senses. Then they would work together to defeat avatar and after every Fairy Tail member would work togheter to bring back Fairy Tail, but it did not happen that way and the end result is the same plus it was good to see Natsu and them dominate for once and think about if Natsu has become that over powered then that must mean he is about to have his final battle with Zeref and Acnologia and if he would have struggled with that God then Zeref and Acnologia would have been able to kill him in one blow. |
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FlareKnight said: Can we just skip to the last boss where Natsu defeats Zeref with a finger flick? Whatever the point of this arc was it failed pretty utterly. It doesn't give any sense of scale of power because Natsu is just defeating everything in one hit. Great Natsu is really powerful...that's helpful. Dude think of Zeref who created Acnologia who killed Igneel and before even killing him took out his soul. For crying out loud if Natsu can't just kill everything in one or two hits how do u expect him to stand a chance against those two. Remember tenrou the whole time aconologia was toying with them and even the dragonslayers just scratched him. Now think of Zeref who can probebly just look at those avatar wizards and they are down. Now think of Natsu or E.N.D who is supposed to fight them do u think he would stand a chance if he could not 1 or 2 shot those normal wizards. |
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Isterio said: Now Hiro pulls massive bullshit and I´m telling you the bullshit will not stop,it will reoccur and leave.while you try to jusify bullshit for the sake of justifying bullshit. See ya when you´ve dropped the series writing hate revuews about how much of a waste of time it was. Anyway don´t try to make me talk to you again,I won´t respond anymore. I've read Fairy Tail enough to know that fodder characters will remain fodder even when they're overhyped. Just because you and many other expected a different turn of events out of this mini arc, which was supposed to serve as a plot device to display Natsu's strength and reunite Fairy Tail, doesn't mean this was bullshit. Sure the execution could have been better but fact remains that you were expecting too much out of this mini arc. |
| Natsu not even OP, wonder how he'd do against Gildarts at this point ^^ Wonder if that was actually a true god...if it was then I've no words xD Looking forward to the next double issue. |
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| I'm more interested in the big announcement now. |
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Nuvi said: I'm more interested in the big announcement now. Well less than a week to go. Personally I am looking forward to the OST release on the 13th. It's been too long |
trump54 said: This arc should be ver if arlocck doenst have any more tricks right? One chapter to meet with gadgeel then the closing chapter where they relax in a hotsrping or smthing. Or do we have to fight the main baranch or mabey zeref does show up Odds are the main branch will get their own arc since this was nothing but an outer fringe operation |
trump54 said: This arc should be ver if arlocck doenst have any more tricks right? One chapter to meet with gadgeel then the closing chapter where they relax in a hotsrping or smthing. Or do we have to fight the main baranch or mabey zeref does show up Zeref won't be showing up any time soon. |
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Ragoonius said: Anyone else having problems with their posts? One of mine just straight up vanished from this discussion :/ Your quoted post vanished cause it was a faulty quote. |
| Yes, Natsu one-shots again. I am so happy. Hurrah. Wa wa wa. Clapping. Need I add something else? That's why Mashima needs to stick with team natsu moments. I wish that all 5 of them land the finishing blow for once. That or more teamwork. |
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Ragoonius said: Darklight0303 said: Your quoted post vanished cause it was a faulty quote. ....Faulty? You know what, maybe I should just stop quoting because I keep doing something wrong :/ ....I say as I quote you Yes strangely enough my quote looks normal. The other one had your post inside the quote rather than outside it. |
| lol.... this manga is so stupid 1/5 |
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