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Toucanbird said: I don't know why this show gets a bad wrap. I think it's pretty cleverly written. The only thing I have against it is I do find Slaine's "rise to power" considering the mentality of Vers seems a bit rushed. He goes from essentially ordinary kid to crown prince in less than two years and everyone in the Vers Empire is accepting of that? That aspect of it doesn't seem right. Although, I'll give a lot of props to the writing of Slaine's character. He's actually downright brilliant. Slaine's sudden rise does feel a bit artificial. I think someone pointed out that this show focuses a lot on the interaction between Slaine and Inaho. So what you eventually end up with is what I at least feel was strongly implicated in this episode is just a eventual final confrontation of a love triangle with some war opera. And I think the cost of doing that ends up investing less attention on the details of the setting of the story, which this show has been doing throughout. Ignoring a lot of details about Vers, Heaven's Fall, Aldnoah, etc. Its definitely a show with some valid criticism, but enjoyable on its own right. |
| DARKLIGHT, PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD LEARN HOW TO QUOTE THINGS PROPERLY. Also, to everyone else commenting, please do the same. Thank you. Anyways deadoptimist said: I think that there're practial laws of writing, and an experienced writer could formulate some more or less proveable principles, but it seems that we don't have one here. But I think that while Inaho has a personality in sense that he is a person with some traits, there're problems with the writing of his character. The first and the obvious being that he doesn't have flaws. The only one that is demonstrated is that he can be inconsiderate sometimes, but that doesn't affect his social life. Normally a character is given flaws to seem human. The second issue I have is that he has no backstory. We know that he lost parents and lived with Yuki, but nothing more - that makes him seem a clean slate and contributes to the impression, that some have, that he is dull. He doesn't seem entirely normal. His skills in science (and we don't know the exact number of fields, which doesn't help) are higher than those of most people. In the same time his face is inexpressive and his need for social interaction seems lower than that of the most people. That suggests savantism, autism or at least some sort of deviation, but despite being an interesting trait is has been written down as "he is always like this". But Yuki comments on his facial expressions, since they are not readable, so don't we need more attention towards his unique traits? You'd be interested, if you met a guy like him. His social situation seems unrealistic. A person with stunted social behaviour is more likely to repel people, especially in teens, especially of opposite sex. And Inaho is show in the center of a group of friends. People in groups gather to interact, so he could be dragged around - hardly a center of attention. People have argued that it' doesn't have to be like that, but when talking about people we usually address aour experiences. Mine is that louder, more energetic people attract friends more than quiet introverts. The latter are less noticed, cause they're quiet. Inaho's progression is really subtle, as if in not really noticeable, compared to his counterpart in the plot. His appearance is almost unchanged, his outfit stays mostly the same. He became slightly more talkative, but it is not really much considering the time passed. (Subjective note - I have to agree with those who say that him starting to giving encouragements rounds him up as an ideal character even more, so it doesn't seem to me as a good decision) Inaho doesn't have introspection moments besides thoughts of Asseylum, so we don't know about his concerns, dreams, worldview or way of thinking (besides the love for eggs). The oly thing we know he is rational. The writing doesn't do a good work of showing this basic trait. Or, more precisely, we are shown only the good side, while the scary side of overly rational person - the fact that you can get a lower priority in their eyes than some goal - is not touched upon. He is not put in any context. We don't know of his relationship with command (the remark of him being not a team player was good, but it was singular and it is not developped). We don't see him interacting much with his peers - if it's a negative traits, they don't react to it. Only Inko helps. But more importantly we don't see him in the bigger picture of Earth defense forces (unlike, I am sorry, Slaine). Inaho doesn't react to other people's actions much. In short - we know very little of him, he has more negative traits than positive ones, and it's not really compensated with anything besides the action scenes. Along with Inugirlz, I also applaud this analysis of Inaho's character. I believe it's something that many like-minded people watching the show can feel, but can't necessarily articulate as well as you did. You are definitely one of my favorite users in these forums. |
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Darklight0303 said: deadoptimist said: No, he is not. Please, stop using Russian history inaccurately. then how about space fidel Castro Pffftttttttthahhahahahahahahahahaha |
 At least Slaine knows there is no happy end for him. I think scenes like this are very important in creating the tragic villain. This, and the scene where he snaps at ElderDorito are two scenes that he demonstrates self-awareness. The war, the rise, lying to Asseylum, lying to Lemrina. It shows that he still is able to view his actions from an outside perspective, and that he knows what he is doing is wrong. I just wish that we had more build-up before his demise. |
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deadoptimist said: Does anybody know whether this is unique to this subforum or the Japanese fans also go over the same couple of scenes again and again? It seemed to me that Animesuki A.Z subforum was less toxic, when I visited it last time, but I may have missed something, of course. Come on... with that number of posts here, you should surely have realized how terrible MAL's community is, right~? Hop onto pretty much any "mainstream" anime board here, and you'll find the same thing... |
| Can people please stop talking about the princess supposedly having "amnesia"? She does NOT. She is just disoriented and hazy after having been in coma for so long. There has been no indication that she has forgotten anything, as she immdietly remembers anything after even just a slight hint (remembering "that boy" just by seeing birds, etc.) |
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wheresthehandle said: So I'm still a little confused about Slaine's motivations... but it's actiony and fun so whatever Slaine's motivations are same as Saazbaum's was - conquer earth and use it as a starting point to rebel against Vers then destroy Vers royalty and reform country into communism. |
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julyachan said: Darklight is still here proclaiming his hate for Slaine. I know right. Darklight0303 said: No the counts take a liking to him because he has the fake Princess backing him. You don't really believe that do you? Did you even watch the episode? They know that Slaine in power = finally doing something as a unit to destroy the earthlings lol. |
Inugirlz said: julyachan said: Darklight is still here proclaiming his hate for Slaine. I know right. Darklight0303 said: No the counts take a liking to him because he has the fake Princess backing him. You don't really believe that do you? Did you even watch the episode? They know that Slaine in power = finally doing something as a unit to destroy the earthlings lol. Did you watch the piesode? He ordered Harklight to frame his opposition in order to strip them of their knghthood if they don't swear fealty. Does that sound like he has the respect and loyalty of every knight legitimately. Hell even HArklight said that having the Princess make that declaration was like an ultimate command. Without that Slaine would be nothing and you damn well know it. |
Viktor_Otaku said: Darklight0303 said: Did you watch the piesode? He ordered Harklight to frame his opposition in order to strip them of their knghthood if they don't swear fealty. Does that sound like he has the respect and loyalty of every knight legitimately. Hell even HArklight said that having the Princess make that declaration was like an ultimate command. Without that Slaine would be nothing and you damn well know it. There are Counts who legitimately respect Slaine and acknowledges him, episode 6 when he was talking to the 3 other Counts. Sure Saazbaum's legacy has some influence. But Slaine manages to make them see his point of view on his own. There is no evidence of those being in the majority |
Darklight0303 said: Did you watch the piesode? He ordered Harklight to frame his opposition in order to strip them of their knghthood if they don't swear fealty. Does that sound like he has the respect and loyalty of every knight legitimately. Hell even HArklight said that having the Princess make that declaration was like an ultimate command. Without that Slaine would be nothing and you damn well know it. Ok...what? This makes no sense. Obviously, out of the remaining racist counts, there are sure to be outliers that would oppose him just for being a terran. Just because they don't like him, it doesn't mean that they aren't realizing that he is a godsend to Vers right now. The counts with more than 1 brain cell are beginning to notice that unification is a great thing for them in the war, and Slaine is/was the only one that could do it because of the Princess. With that comes respect. He's basically solved the entire problem Vers has had during the war...lack of teamwork. If Earth thought Vers needed to be nerfed before...they are in for a hell of a ride. |
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Savethebestforu said: Darklight0303 said: Did you watch the piesode? He ordered Harklight to frame his opposition in order to strip them of their knghthood if they don't swear fealty. Does that sound like he has the respect and loyalty of every knight legitimately. Hell even HArklight said that having the Princess make that declaration was like an ultimate command. Without that Slaine would be nothing and you damn well know it. Ok...what? This makes no sense. Obviously, out of the remaining racist counts, there are sure to be outliers that would oppose him just for being a terran. Just because they don't like him, it doesn't mean that they aren't realizing that he is a godsend to Vers right now. The counts with more than 1 brain cell are beginning to notice that unification is a great thing for them in the war, and Slaine is/was the only one that could do it because of the Princess. With that comes respect. He's basically solved the entire problem Vers has had during the war...lack of teamwork. If Earth thought Vers needed to be nerfed before...they are in for a hell of a ride. Ironically the only count who might oppose him at this point is Mazureek, one of the few counts that is not racist. Meanwhile we have racist counts like Barouhcruz who are actually ok with Slaine's current position in the orbital knights. |
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Dragon_Slayer_X said: Are you thinking that things will stay the same when the truth comes out and the counts learn about the filthy Terran have been deceiving and threatening them all this time? They don't have respect for Slaine but fear. They obey the Princess's command. When they get a chance, Slaine will get slained Well if the Princess or Inaho doesn't shoot his ass first that is..... Honestly, I really wonder if the remaining counts would even care at this point. It depends what Slaine had done up when this is revealed. I mean, if they find out that the Princess is on Earth's side and she denounces Slaine, but all of this happens after Slaine has almost achieved victory over Earth...I don't know. I don't really think they give a shit about the Princess personally, and if it were possible I think they would rather have her gone (again I'm just speculating). Their loyalty was to her grandfather, but having a 16 (now 17? 18?) year old boss you around when war is going on would be grating. |
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Viktor_Otaku said: As there is no evidence that those against him are the majority as well. Actually there is. Take the conversation with the three counts last episode. Only one person agreed with Slaine Savethebestforu said: Dragon_Slayer_X said: Are you thinking that things will stay the same when the truth comes out and the counts learn about the filthy Terran have been deceiving and threatening them all this time? They don't have respect for Slaine but fear. They obey the Princess's command. When they get a chance, Slaine will get slained Well if the Princess or Inaho doesn't shoot his ass first that is..... Honestly, I really wonder if the remaining counts would even care at this point. It depends what Slaine had done up when this is revealed. I mean, if they find out that the Princess is on Earth's side and she denounces Slaine, but all of this happens after Slaine has almost achieved victory over Earth...I don't know. I don't really think they give a shit about the Princess personally, and if it were possible I think they would rather have her gone (again I'm just speculating). Their loyalty was to her grandfather, but having a 16 (now 17? 18?) year old boss you around when war is going on would be grating. The moment they have Earth they will dispose of Slaine as well. And again. Without the Fake Princess backing him, this cooperation concept would NOT have been obeyed. This is the fact you are blatantly ignoring |
Raziel1991 said: Ironically the only count who might oppose him at this point is Mazureek, one of the few counts that is not racist. Meanwhile we have racist counts like Barouhcruz who are actually ok with Slaine's current position in the orbital knights. Mazureek is an interesting case because he is such an enigma. How did he even become a count if he isn't a racist asshole? I mean, Vers is such a fucked up society, but he seems to be fine with it. He seems to be a guy that just goes through the motions and does what he is told. What does he think trying to end the war with a standstill will do for Vers? For him? We don't know anything about his motivations or his thinking. |
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| Oh man oh man, Slaine apologists chugging out bullshit in full force this week. I can't wait till Slaine snaps and what kind of outlandish excuses will be made for slaine then. |
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CookingPriest said: Oh man oh man, Slaine apologists chugging out bullshit in full force this week. I can't wait till Slaine snaps and what kind of outlandish excuses will be made for slaine then. You know it's gonna happen. Human stupidity is infinite after all |
Darklight0303 said: CookingPriest said: Oh man oh man, Slaine apologists chugging out bullshit in full force this week. I can't wait till Slaine snaps and what kind of outlandish excuses will be made for slaine then. You know it's gonna happen. Human stupidity is infinite after all I can already imagine it: "B-but Slaine did not want to kill Mazuurek! His hand slipped that's all. Its all Inaho's fault because slaine got annoyed he saved her last season!111oneone" I still remember last week's apologist bullshit of "slaine will totally NOT invade earth!1" |
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Darklight0303 said: The moment they have Earth they will dispose of Slaine as well. And again. Without the Fake Princess backing him, this cooperation concept would NOT have been obeyed. This is the fact you are blatantly ignoring How do you even know that? With what I'm seeing, the counts are slowly gaining respect for him by his actions. The Princess isn't giving him these ideas or anything, he's doing this by himself. You are saying the only reason they respect him is because the Princess married him, but at what point do they look at his merits for what they are worth? Once the secret comes out, the secret that she favors Earth will also come out. That makes her a traitor. Who will they choose? It doesn't matter if she is right or wrong. This war has gone way beyond just a war of attempted murder on the Princess. Billions have died in this war and at this point Vers will accept nothing less than victory with the losses they have suffered to an inferior terran resistance. This war needs to end with the conquering of earth, and if the Princess calls for a cease-fire, I'm pretty sure most counts would keep listening to Slaine instead of Asseylum. |
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CookingPriest said: Oh man oh man, Slaine apologists chugging out bullshit in full force this week. I can't wait till Slaine snaps and what kind of outlandish excuses will be made for slaine then. How does saying this make you any better than them? I've seen most of your posts. Frankly, you bring almost nothing to this discussion other than bashing Slaine and shipping InahoxAsseylum. |
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Savethebestforu said: How do you even know that? With what I'm seeing, the counts are slowly gaining respect for him by his actions. The Princess isn't giving him these ideas or anything, he's doing this by himself. You are saying the only reason they respect him is because the Princess married him, but at what point do they look at his merits for what they are worth? Once the secret comes out, the secret that she favors Earth will also come out. That makes her a traitor. Who will they choose? It doesn't matter if she is right or wrong. This war has gone way beyond just a war of attempted murder on the Princess. Billions have died in this war and at this point Vers will accept nothing less than victory with the losses they have suffered to an inferior terran resistance. This war needs to end with the conquering of earth, and if the Princess calls for a cease-fire, I'm pretty sure most counts would keep listening to Slaine instead of Asseylum. Billions? Holy hell do you even listen to yourself. Hyperbole's and manufacturing of so called evidence left and right. The war needs to end with conquering Earth? What a joke. There are loyalists among the knights still and those obey Slaine only because the princess said so. This is true fact. Not your fabricated delusions that he's somehow gaining the respect of everyone. Even this episode contradicted that. Of course you would have to actually watch the episode with open eyes something which your group rarely does. |
Dragon_Slayer_X said: So not praising "Slaine-sama" is the same as bringing nothing to the discussion........right? You really haven't read most of his posts did you? I've read most of CP's recent posts. There's usually one with a significant amount of substance somewhere, and then the rest qualify somewhere between "hostile circlejerk" and "bait." Extremism on either side usually doesn't lead to much discussion, just the same tired crap that gets thrown around each topic every week. At least yesterday we had a nice discussion about other things. Darklight0303 said: Billions? Holy hell do you even listen to yourself. He's not wrong about billions having died in the war, assuming he's counting total losses. As for his speculations about how the counts feel, they're just as valid as your speculations that the counts would kill Slaine if they succeeded in winning. All speculative, nothing confirmed. Probably won't even be able to see how it would go, since I still don't think Vers is gonna win the war. |
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Dragon_Slayer_X said: So not praising "Slaine-sama" is the same as bringing nothing to the discussion........right? You really haven't read most of his posts did you? I shouldn't have gotten personal, but I'm serious when I said that. I'm just saying he loves to label people nonsensical Slaine fanboys and has some weird superiority complex over people, when at the same time he seems to be a passionate fan of another character himself. And I'm mad that he has a Kirei avatar, because Kirei is muh boi |
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ANGRY2011 said: Dragon_Slayer_X said: So not praising "Slaine-sama" is the same as bringing nothing to the discussion........right? You really haven't read most of his posts did you? I've read most of CP's recent posts. There's usually one with a significant amount of substance somewhere, and then the rest qualify somewhere between "hostile circlejerk" and "bait." Extremism on either side usually doesn't lead to much discussion, just the same tired crap that gets thrown around each topic every week. At least yesterday we had a nice discussion about other things. Darklight0303 said: Billions? Holy hell do you even listen to yourself. He's not wrong about billions having died in the war, assuming he's counting total losses. As for his speculations about how the counts feel, they're just as valid as your speculations that the counts would kill Slaine if they succeeded in winning. All speculative, nothing confirmed. Probably won't even be able to see how it would go, since I still don't think Vers is gonna win the war. Billions of EARTHLINGS have died. Vers has barely lost anything compared to that. That does not make it so Vers is justified to win the war by conquering earth whatsoever. Terran lives will still be wasted. See the falacy in his statement now? |
Darklight0303 said: Billions? Holy hell do you even listen to yourself. Hyperbole's and manufacturing of so called evidence left and right. ANGRY2011 said: He's not wrong about billions having died in the war, assuming he's counting total losses. Oh no I've angered Darklight for the 455th time. I should have learned my lesson last time. You can tell when hes foaming from the mouth when his posts are longer than 1 line. |
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An_anon said: I'm honestly impressed at Darklight's (And seijuar, but he hasn't been as active this week) tenacity. Dude will stop at nothing to individually counter any post he disagrees with and lump them all into the same group even if the person doesn't even necessarily like Slaine, or likes both Slaine and Inaho. Like you can't try to analyze anything about Slaine's character or say something that doesn't fit into what he truly believes is the writer's intention without getting jumped by the guy. You're welcome to counter back. Oh wait you can't without resorting to mockery and delusions. |
Darklight0303 said: Billions of EARTHLINGS have died. Vers has barely lost anything compared to that. That does not make it so Vers is justified to win the war by conquering earth whatsoever. Terran lives will still be wasted. See the falacy in his statement now? Yes it does, in my opinion. What will be the point of the entire war if Earth was not conquered? This could have been stopped maybe 1-2 months after landing, but 2 years? Killing billions of earthlings and then "lol peace out"? No, why would they? Earth will never forgive them for this, so what's the point in leaving them be after razing their world for 2 years? They are close to victory and being forced to ceasefire would serve no purpose. There has to be a definitive outcome in this war for Vers, or else everything they have done would be for nothing. |
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Savethebestforu said: Darklight0303 said: Billions of EARTHLINGS have died. Vers has barely lost anything compared to that. That does not make it so Vers is justified to win the war by conquering earth whatsoever. Terran lives will still be wasted. See the falacy in his statement now? Yes it does, in my opinion. What will be the point of the entire war if Earth was not conquered? This could have been stopped maybe 1-2 months after landing, but 2 years? Killing billions of earthlings and then "lol peace out"? No, why would they? Earth will never forgive them for this, so what's the point in leaving them be after razing their world for 2 years? They are close to victory and being forced to ceasefire would serve no purpose. There has to be a definitive outcome in this war for Vers, or else everything they have done would be for nothing. They have no one to blame for that but themselves. Should have thought about that before starting the war. They don't deserve victory for it. |
Darklight0303 said: They have no one to blame for that but themselves. Should have thought about that before starting the war. They don't deserve victory for it. What they deserve and who to blame has nothing to do with this. I'm saying that it doesn't matter how this war started, what has been done is irreversible, and through that a truce is out of the question from Vers' perspective. They have already killed billions of people, so there is no point in stopping now just before victory and conquest to save lives. |
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Savethebestforu said: Darklight0303 said: They have no one to blame for that but themselves. Should have thought about that before starting the war. They don't deserve victory for it. What they deserve and who to blame has nothing to do with this. I'm saying that it doesn't matter how this war started, what has been done is irreversible, and through that a truce is out of the question from Vers' perspective. They have already killed billions of people, so there is no point in stopping now just before victory and conquest to save lives. The war could have still been stopped when Sazbaum landed his castle in russia. If only Slaine didn't fuck up everything. An_anon said: I've never engaged with you because you've clearly got a giant chip on your shoulder. I'll also refrain from personal attacks because I don't wish to be modded/reported, but there's a definite superiority complex going on here with how dedicated you are in 'dismantling' the arguments of 'delusional fanboys' because they don't agree with your narrow view of an anime television series. If arguments can be dismantled, they aren't very good arguments to begin with. A solid argument withstands any counter. |
10th_man_down said: nina4life said: Whoever was the person in last episodes thread that said: "Wait for princess to wake up without memories", I fracking salute you. You are surprised by that? I thought most people would call that shit. That trope is just so overused in everything. Oh, I know it's overused, but I seriously expected princess to get slightly angry and then forgive Slaine because, well, because. I still expect she's going to forgive him in a span of 2-3 episodes and she's going to get betrayed by other knights even if she goes out with "I am alive" statement. Knights want war and wheelchair psycho is giving them that. That's another trope often used so I went with that one. :) |
Darklight0303 said: ANGRY2011 said: I've read most of CP's recent posts. There's usually one with a significant amount of substance somewhere, and then the rest qualify somewhere between "hostile circlejerk" and "bait." Extremism on either side usually doesn't lead to much discussion, just the same tired crap that gets thrown around each topic every week. At least yesterday we had a nice discussion about other things. He's not wrong about billions having died in the war, assuming he's counting total losses. As for his speculations about how the counts feel, they're just as valid as your speculations that the counts would kill Slaine if they succeeded in winning. All speculative, nothing confirmed. Probably won't even be able to see how it would go, since I still don't think Vers is gonna win the war. Billions of EARTHLINGS have died. Vers has barely lost anything compared to that. That does not make it so Vers is justified to win the war by conquering earth whatsoever. Terran lives will still be wasted. See the falacy in his statement now? Yeah. I am sure a LOT ov vers people died...oh wait, they are LIGHTYEARS AWAY FROM BATTLEFIELD AND MOST OF WHO DIED ARE RACIST COUNTS COMMITTING GENOCIDE. Gods I just love how people downplay the awful behavior of Slaine's side, now that Slaine is bossing the knights around. ANGRY2011 said: Dragon_Slayer_X said: So not praising "Slaine-sama" is the same as bringing nothing to the discussion........right? You really haven't read most of his posts did you? I've read most of CP's recent posts. There's usually one with a significant amount of substance somewhere, and then the rest qualify somewhere between "hostile circlejerk" and "bait." Extremism on either side usually doesn't lead to much discussion, just the same tired crap that gets thrown around each topic every week. At least yesterday we had a nice discussion about other things. How is wanking HF as "best route ever" and "tr00 zeri sequel" going for you? |
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nina4life said: 10th_man_down said: You are surprised by that? I thought most people would call that shit. That trope is just so overused in everything. Oh, I know it's overused, but I seriously expected princess to get slightly angry and then forgive Slaine because, well, because. I still expect she's going to forgive him in a span of 2-3 episodes and she's going to get betrayed by other knights even if she goes out with "I am alive" statement. Knights want war and wheelchair psycho is giving them that. That's another trope often used so I went with that one. :) She's not going to forgive him and even Slaine knows that. Which is why he keeps her in that garden of Eden in the dark and completely unaware of the slaughter done in her name CookingPriest said: How is wanking HF as "best route ever" and "tr00 zeri sequel" going for you? .....PLease tell me you're joking. I want to still have faith in the human race. |
Darklight0303Feb 23, 2015 1:22 AM
Darklight0303 said: The war could have still been stopped when Sazbaum landed his castle in russia. If only Slaine didn't fuck up everything. See, by backtracking to this point in time without a response you are agreeing with my statement that you previously said was...what was it again? Darklight0303 said: The war needs to end with conquering Earth? What a joke. Talking about what happened in episode 12 is another discussion that has been had many times. I don't think I want to get into that in this thread. |
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Savethebestforu said: Darklight0303 said: The war could have still been stopped when Sazbaum landed his castle in russia. If only Slaine didn't fuck up everything. See, by backtracking to this point in time without a response you are agreeing with my statement that you previously said was...what was it again? Darklight0303 said: The war needs to end with conquering Earth? What a joke. Talking about what happened in episode 12 is another discussion that has been had many times. I don't think I want to get into that in this thread. I am not agreeing whatsoever with your delusion. The Vers must be stopped one way or another. Their victory will truly make those deaths you tout so proudly be a waste. Also no we should go back to that episode. Also after rewatching it just now I realized a few things. First off the princess talks about an operation and how it was a success and that she should escape with Inaho. Now tell me. What part of that would make any person with a half functioning brain, think that she was being under duress. Her voice is elated and happy about that result. And Slaine CLEARLY heard her voice. She wasn't being quiet. Also Inaho clearly stated that he could not see very well because he had blood in his eye. Making him pointing the gun at Slaine not really a threat when he was already weak and almost blinded to begin with. SO again Slaine had NO FUCKING justification for anything he did in that episode and as such deserves 0 credit for his so called ACHIEVMENTS. |
Darklight0303Feb 23, 2015 1:35 AM
CookingPriest said: Gods I just love how people downplay the awful behavior of Slaine's side, now that Slaine is bossing the knights around. What does this have to do with...anything? Nobody is discussing what's morally right and wrong except for you. TheCookingPriest said: How is wanking HF as "best route ever"? You need to apologize. You seriously don't deserve your name or Kirei as your avatar. I am appalled. |
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CookingPriest said: How is wanking HF as "best route ever" and "tr00 zeri sequel" going for you? Lol CP, you must be remembering who I am wrong or trolling, because UBW is the best, F/SN > F/Z, and Rin is best girl. Well, Illya, but she doesn't need a route because everyone loves her. |
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ANGRY2011 said: CookingPriest said: How is wanking HF as "best route ever" and "tr00 zeri sequel" going for you? Lol CP, you must be remembering who I am wrong or trolling, because UBW is the best, F/SN > F/Z, and Rin is best girl. Well, Illya, but she doesn't need a route because everyone loves her. Ah good. That's a relief to hear. |
Darklight0303 said: I am not agreeing whatsoever with your delusion. The Vers must be stopped one way or another. Their victory will truly make those deaths you tout so proudly be a waste. Seriously, this still doesn't make sense. This is Earth's POV. Earth would love to stop Vers or at least stop the war. Read my above posts to look at Vers' POV. Darklight0303 said: Also no we should go back to that episode Sigh...Darklight, if you really have new opinions on the events of episode 12, you should post them in the episode 12 discussion. Slaine's actions in episode 12 have been talked about all winter long, we don't need to start a discussion about it in the episode 19 thread. |
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ANGRY2011 said: Well, Illya, but she doesn't need a route because everyone loves her. Wrong. Should have happened because best girl yo. If Saber got a route, there should have been a 4th route! I hate Saber and Shirou's romance so much. Oops. Wrong thread. |
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