Aldnoah.Zero 2nd Season Episode 6 Discussion

Megaphy said:
Seujair and know you get called out a lot but what annoys me is that you go around calling people fanboys and stuff. Well I can say the same about you because you have Inaho in your favorites and you insult everybody who ever said the name Inaho with disrespect. Well, excuse you mister "my opinion is better than yours" but some people are trying to enjoy the discussions here, not put up with haters.

Dragon_Slayer_X said:


Ummm sorry what Haters are we talking about?

Seriously how blind on purpose can people be if they only see Inahofans talking shit and ignore the huge amount of BS and delusional fanfictions the Slainefags have been making up till now. We really like to see some good discussion without the "Gary stu" "Robot" "Randomly changing Inaho's name into something" BULLSHIT too you know.

Megaphy said:

I meant both sides. I wasn't defending neither Slaine nor Inaho fans. I was talking to that guy in particular 'cuz he annoys me a lot. There's never middle ground with you guys.

Dragon_Slayer_X said:


If you meant Seijur, just ignore him. If you reply to his posts, we will get another 10 pages of stuff that won't make much sense.

ANGRY2011 said:
Sooooooooooo, I see I missed nothing? Hm. No feeding trolls tonight, I'm too tired for that shit, and it seems as though last night's incredibly wild ride killed all other users' will to have discussion. I'm sorry guys.

Knight-Artorias said:


I don't think there's much to discuss, the only thing that comes to mind is what the ending will be like.

Darklight0303 said:


There might be something to discuss once the preview for the next ep comes out

Knight-Artorias said:


I don't think there's much to discuss, the only thing that comes to mind is what the ending will be like.

seujair31 said:
Someone has changed the page of Inaho.
And put your nickname eggs.
and you guys complain of me

http://myanimelist.net/character/103693/Inaho_Kaizuka

seujair31 said:
Someone has changed the page of Inaho.
And put your nickname eggs.
and you guys complain of me

http://myanimelist.net/character/103693/Inaho_Kaizuka

xxCloudxa said:
If lots of people call him eggs doesn't that justify him having that as a nickname? Also I don't see how "eggs" is an insult to his character, u take fanboying to the next lvl, chill out man.

Darklight0303 said:


Except no one in canon calls him eggs. This is completely based in fandom

Darklight0303 said:


Except no one in canon calls him eggs. This is completely based in fandom

seujair31 said:



The ones who call it egg, is the fans of Slaine.
He was never called, eggs in Anime.
Lamentable lack of respect for a character

seujair31 said:



The ones who call it egg, is the fans of Slaine.
He was never called, eggs in Anime.
Lamentable lack of respect for a character

Many people, calls Slaine of Traitor, and a liar.
but never put it in your nickname

ShanaFlame said:
Like it or not, I think Lemrina's speech to accept Slaine as her husband will result in the real Asseylum choosing Inaho and going against Slaine at the same time. Herschel's mech ability is one of my favs in most mech series and god it has so many guns :D But Slaine still won nonetheless due to his smarts.

ShanaFlame said:
Like it or not, I think Lemrina's speech to accept Slaine as her husband will result in the real Asseylum choosing Inaho and going against Slaine at the same time. Herschel's mech ability is one of my favs in most mech series and god it has so many guns :D But Slaine still won nonetheless due to his smarts.

Darklight0303 said:

As if that wasn't already obvious the moment Lemrina was introduced. She's just as insane as Slaine. She was literally MADE for him

Darklight0303 said:


As if that wasn't already obvious the moment Lemrina was introduced. She's just as insane as Slaine. She was literally MADE for him

Savethebestforu said:


I agree. I think Slaine and Lemrina both have massive issues and misguided ideals. Their childhood was presumably not a typical upbringing, and they both need each other, even though Slaine doesn't know it yet.

I think it will be interesting to see how their characters progress together. Inaho and the Princess have both maintained their innocence during the war and haven't had to get their hands dirty. Slaine will realize that he no longer lives in the same world as Asseylum, and hopefully will let her go without going into yandere mode, because that would ruin the story imo. Maybe he will lose his mind, but I hope he realizes that Lemrina shares his goals of disposing of Aldnoah. All she wants is for someone to value her as a human being, the same thing Slaine had wanted his entire time on Vers.

deadoptimist said:
Er, it doesn't seem to me that Inaho has any kind of "innocence" going for him, he seemes pretty mature at the very beginning. But Asseylum is very immature, that's true.

I would like to see the bond between Slaine and Lemrina deepen, but from the way t hey show Slaine turn away from her every time and barely stand being in her presense, I think in A.Z they'll make them fall apart, kill Lemrina a couple of episodes before the ending or simply lose the interest and give her few screentime from now on.

Savethebestforu said:
Even in the war, he is basically eliminating people that are trying to kill him and his friends, so he can have a clear conscience about what he is doing. He's never had to make a decision to choose one life or the other.

Viktor_Otaku said:


If you or anyone of us has been through the childhood that they had been. I am sure you are gonna have very jaded and skeptical views on the world as well.

Darklight0303 said:


Sorry but when you make stupid mistakes left and right at every turn you deserve the burn the world gives you. If you can't suck it up and learn from it you are just that much more of a failure as a person

deadoptimist said:


Hm, each one can his/her own interpretation to a degree, of course, but I think he must be pretty close to the warped. I mean, he did experience hardship without his parents and on a ravaged Earth. He is obviously not very ordinary. And he does kill in the war, as well as watches his comrades die, and he is intelligent enough to understand that the ones he kills are ordinary people as well.
And while a person may think that killing someone is righteous, war usually leaves scars on one's mind.

On the other hand A.Z does a terrible job at showing war, especially on the Earth side (after the first episode). Basically it is limited to a happy crew of Deucalion school children, all of whom are heavily plot armored. We are not shown the suffering of the populace and don't feel anything towards the dying grunts. And the supporting cast is surprisingly long-lived.
Normally you'd expect Inaho to get into situations, where he has to choose one life over another - that's a basic war-story plot. Or to lose people close to him and muse over revenge. But the writers are really merciful towards him.

deadoptimist said:


On the other hand A.Z does a terrible job at showing war, especially on the Earth side (after the first episode). Basically it is limited to a happy crew of Deucalion school children, all of whom are heavily plot armored. We are not shown the suffering of the populace and don't feel anything towards the dying grunts. And the supporting cast is surprisingly long-lived.
Normally you'd expect Inaho to get into situations, where he has to choose one life over another - that's a basic war-story plot. Or to lose people close to him and muse over revenge. But the writers are really merciful towards him.

Savethebestforu said:


Yeah, this is where I drew my feeling of his innocence being intact. I believe I was mistakenly combining the Deucalion crew with Inaho. Looking at it again, I can see that he's different since the war started, I just wish they would show it more. I just don't feel like a war is being fought when I see Nina, Rayet, Calm, Inko, and Inaho joking about getting fat and teasing each other about who they like. I know they are teenagers, but their civilization is facing extinction and they've been fighting a war for 2 years. Anything involving Yuki and Marito are probably my favorite scenes on Earth.

There is no grit, there is no dark humor, there is no temporary emotional breakdowns, there is no crippling fear. Obviously this is all my opinion about what war should be like, but I feel like it's a common one.

seujair31 said:



you've read the material, support
I'll tell you the story of Slaine

He traveled with his father all over the world and then finally to Mars because of his father's obsession with Aldnoah research. His father was too absorbed with his research that he really couldn't take care of Slaine, so Slaine moved into the castle and lived with Asseylum, where they became friends. His father dies three years after getting to Mars and so custody of Slaine is given to Cruhteo. Cruhteo treats him like a servant and he lives with him for two years.

Slaine, has only been broken, after went to live in Cruhteo Castle and were just two years, ates that your life misses perks, and played with his girlfriend princess.
Really you have not read the supporting materials, and extras.
Even living in the castle of Cruhteo, he still had attention and special treatment from Asseylum.
Slaine did not live in poverty, Slaine not starved as lower-class person from Mars, Slaine was always treated as a guest vip, any discrimination began only when moved in with Cruhteo still possessed mutas perks that other soldiers had not

Sykosis said:

Holy shit!

Finally, a coherent post in almost perfect English.

Miracles do happen. Now, all you have to do is keep it up.

seujair31 said:



you've read the material, support
I'll tell you the story of Slaine

He traveled with his father all over the world and then finally to Mars because of his father's obsession with Aldnoah research. His father was too absorbed with his research that he really couldn't take care of Slaine, so Slaine moved into the castle and lived with Asseylum, where they became friends. His father dies three years after getting to Mars and so custody of Slaine is given to Cruhteo. Cruhteo treats him like a servant and he lives with him for two years.

Slaine, has only been broken, after went to live in Cruhteo Castle and were just two years, ates that your life misses perks, and played with his girlfriend princess.
Really you have not read the supporting materials, and extras.
Even living in the castle of Cruhteo, he still had attention and special treatment from Asseylum.
Slaine did not live in poverty, Slaine not starved as lower-class person from Mars, Slaine was always treated as a guest vip, any discrimination began only when moved in with Cruhteo still possessed mutas perks that other soldiers had not
He had a very good childhood, only 2 bad years.
He does not know real, mars situation, he only has information he received from Saazbaun, then became a skilled pilot, in the two years served Cruhteo in two years acquired political knowledge.

Savethebestforu said:


Yeah, this is where I drew my feeling of his innocence being intact. I believe I was mistakenly combining the Deucalion crew with Inaho. Looking at it again, I can see that he's different since the war started, I just wish they would show it more. I just don't feel like a war is being fought when I see Nina, Rayet, Calm, Inko, and Inaho joking about getting fat and teasing each other about who they like. I know they are teenagers, but their civilization is facing extinction and they've been fighting a war for 2 years. Anything involving Yuki and Marito are probably my favorite scenes on Earth.

There is no grit, there is no dark humor, there is no temporary emotional breakdowns, there is no crippling fear. Obviously this is all my opinion about what war should be like, but I feel like it's a common one.

Inugirlz said:


Hi again guys!

Nice theory, a lot of it would actually be reasonable except this is only speculation. We're never told what Slaine's childhood was like. You also seem to be underestimating what constant discrimination can do to a person. Nice english btw, you're improving (or your Mac OS is whichever)!

Couldn't agree more. Considering the Earth side should be near extinction the story feels a bit light hearted whenever we're seeing things on the deucalion. Not to say we don't see some hardships but i haven't seen any landscapes littered with dead bodies or countless destroyed places.

seujair31 said:

It is a fact, that in the extras, and manga that made for Slaine.
Is in the extras, and m.anga who made the Slaine.
There is an argument, or Assumption, is the extra information is, and the Manga created for Slaine.

Inugirlz said:


Um you do realize Aldnoah is an anime original and there is no official manga right? Are you saying doujinshi have been created with that background story?

seujair31 said:
,

It is not a theory,
is not speculation.
It's in the collateral.
in the manga, and extra materials.
It is a fact, real.
Why do not you search and search information first, before desmintir others

It is quite childish, what are the reasons that Slaine has to fight, because he wants to make a revolution mars, he never had anything to do with is war. The power of miraculous writing and tendensiosa.
He wants to make a revolution, because suffered bully, in the two years he lived with Cruhteo, because Saazbaun le gave a talk, because aAsseylum was shot by his fault.
These are reasons to do revolution.
Earthlings were forced to fight, because they were attacked, forlados to fight to defend, to occur.
Now Slaine has no reason, he did not starve, and did not live on mars poverty, he had perks that other soldiers had not, he had a beautiful childhood traveling with his father, and met his Asseylum read,
and played with her in his castle while the people of lower class Martian, was in trouble and hunger.
Indeed, we have the power of miraculous writing, which has the power to transform someone without experience, that in the battle fight with Trillram, he comes to faint trembling in his carrier.
And simply transforms it into a super revolutionary. Which has a super revolution plan.
Really writers should find that somo idiots.
And to believe in fairy tales, and miraculous written

Inugirlz said:


Okay first of all the aldnoah manga was created after the anime so it is an anime original (im not sure if you were disputing that or not). The so called-extra archive episode is a recap, nothing new is gained. Also the manga/extra materials from the manga created after the anime are spin-offs used for comedy sake and i could only find 2chapters in english online.

I was not disputing the whole Slaine was living happily with the princess part and only faced discrimination after he was entrusted to Cruhteo (after his father died)--that is fact. What i meant by speculation is you claiming he had a easy-breezy childhood. We don't know anything about his mother or how he was raised but can infer that since his father was a scientist deeply involved with his work he probably got neglected a lot. Maybe his mom was murdered or killed during the war like Inaho's.

Finally i do not argue with you at all that the writers find us to be idiots and include a lot of miraculous writing and what not. In the last episodes forum I tried to defend why i thought the writing wasn't particularly well written (although some disagree, as is their right).

However I disagree with one thing your saying. That Slaine never had anything to do with the war and has childish reasons for fighting. Claiming he has 'no reason' is wrong. Everyone is affected by the war one way or another so there is always a reason. The plot hasn't done an excellent job at demonstrating Slaine's close attachment to his revolutionary cause like they have done briefly with Harklight. Also how do you know that while playing in the castle with the princess he wasn't also discriminated against (children can be cruel), how do you know they didn't feed him less when the princess wasn't looking? While his dad was focused on work, how do you know he wasn't ill-treated. I mean in the first episode we fully saw that while he got nice treatment around the princess as soon as she wasn't there he was mistreated, how do u know this didn't also happen when his father was around?

I don't disagree though that he isn't the best person to start the revolution based on what we've seen so far. But obviously he's the one that's going to do it because he's the deuteragonist and JUST BECAUSE. Same can be applied to Inaho though, why is it just him that has defeated all these aldnoah mechas. Lot's of plot conveniences. This is the thing about anime originals, less thought is put into it compared to stories derived from manga.

Inugirlz said:


Um you do realize Aldnoah is an anime original and there is no official manga right? Are you saying doujinshi have been created with that background story?

MrNTR said:
I also don't understand why the guy didn't just make his orbital bits shoot Slaine while Slaine was in that tube. Sure, the bits would had been destroyed in the process but so would had Slaine.

TooFy said:

Slaine's main concern was the simultaneous multiple attack from different areas, he can barely fire back because all his attention is focused on avoiding being hit. By luring his opponent to that narrow lane he ensured that all the attacks would fire from one direction, thus they can be much easier to evade and he can focus more on firing back.

Darklight0303 said:


Ever heard of shooting monkeys in a barrel?