| ok so I want to support anime any way I can. I want to see more seasons of my favorite shows. I've read that buying the anime is a good way to do this. But I need this to be clarified. Does buying dvds/blu-rays straight from Japan support the industry more than localized releases? I've noticed they are much pricier, have fewer episodes per disc, lack subs. but if they support better, it would be worth it. american licensed are cheaper and have subs. however, if they don't support the anime industry as much, then I would be hesitant in buying them. or perhaps, do they support the industry in different ways? |
| If I had any real money, I'd send some direct to those animators working 20yrs/day with no bathroom breaks and futons in their offices. |
| The only way to support the industry is to be a god-tier hacker and shut down every illegal streaming/downloading site so that people must pay to watch anime. |
| Your honor, I never wrote this post. |
| No problem about the works that come to my country, but what the issue about not shipments/solds about some products (a 99%), what can we do about? So if the production of an DVD/BRay is about 2 cents/1$, added the production cost are about a 10% added to prices, so the more of companies apply a 40% of profits . . . Counts continue failing about consumers. |
DcyendNov 2, 2014 12:39 AM
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| Importing straight from Japan is the most you can do to support your favourite anime, whether it'd be BDs (which are most expensive usually), DVDs (around 1k yen cheaper), music CDs (which are also quite expensive), manga, light novels, merchandise such as nendos, figures, etc. But then you'd find some of the large franchises are so broad nowadays, that even spending in game such as for the Love Live! mobage, you'd be contributing to the making of new songs as we've seen with the subunit collaboration between School Idol Festival and Love Live! anime. Really doesn't matter where in the franchise you spend, as they all support each other one way or another. You can argue that if more people buy the localised releases, then more overseas companies would pay some sort of lump fee or something to the original company to be able to distribute their anime in overseas countries. I'm not so well informed about overseas licenses, but I have heard that overseas sales are a drop in the ocean compared to domestic (Japanese) sales. |
EjcNov 2, 2014 12:57 AM
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Ejc said: Importing straight from Japan is the most you can do to support your favourite anime, whether it'd be BDs (which are most expensive usually), DVDs (around 1k yen cheaper), music CDs (which are also quite expensive), manga, light novels, merchandise such as nendos, figures, etc. But then you'd find some of the large franchises are so broad nowadays, that even spending in game such as for the Love Live! mobage, you'd be contributing to the making of new songs as we've seen with the subunit collaboration between School Idol Festival and Love Live! anime. You can argue that if more people buy the localised releases, then more overseas companies would pay some sort of lump fee or something to the original company to be able to distribute their anime in overseas countries. I'm not so well informed about overseas licenses, but I have heard that overseas sales are a drop in the ocean compared to domestic (Japanese) sales. yeah, they are expensive. so it really is a big investment decision to decide whether to import from Japan or not. I was hoping the local versions would help equally, but it makes sense that they don't really. |
| 1 purchase won't change anything. Buy 100. |
| I just ordered an anime DVD set from Amazon. Whether it helps the anime creators themselves or not, I'm at least helping the anime industry itself. |
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Ejc said: ^best post on this topic i've ever seenImporting straight from Japan is the most you can do to support your favourite anime, whether it'd be BDs (which are most expensive usually), DVDs (around 1k yen cheaper), music CDs (which are also quite expensive), manga, light novels, merchandise such as nendos, figures, etc. But then you'd find some of the large franchises are so broad nowadays, that even spending in game such as for the Love Live! mobage, you'd be contributing to the making of new songs as we've seen with the subunit collaboration between School Idol Festival and Love Live! anime. Really doesn't matter where in the franchise you spend, as they all support each other one way or another. You can argue that if more people buy the localised releases, then more overseas companies would pay some sort of lump fee or something to the original company to be able to distribute their anime in overseas countries. I'm not so well informed about overseas licenses, but I have heard that overseas sales are a drop in the ocean compared to domestic (Japanese) sales. |
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| Any legal purchases or legal streaming views are better than nothing (or actually, watching illegal streams and buying bootleg merchandise is worse than nothing), though yes, importing more expensive Japanese discs would be better. The overseas-industry-haters like to pretend that companies like Funimation, Viz, Madman, etc. are some kind of legal bootleggers who don't pay Japanese companies any licensing fees or royalties, but are somehow allowed to release the discs anyway. And yet, the same "secondary licensed products are bad!" crowd doesn't have a problem recommending that people buy figures and pillowcases... |
| I think paying Crunchy Roll is the most simple and easiest way for us to support the anime industry but I don't see any harm buying the dvd/bluray too. |
But it's important to remember that a movie review is subjective;it only gives you one person's opinion. http://www.classzone.com/books/lnetwork_gr08/page_build.cfm?content=analyz_media&ch=30 It doesn't matter if you like LoGH,Monster etc.If you are a jobless or college/school dropout living in your mom basement, you are still an unintelligent loser. Taste in anime does not make you a better person.If elitist don't exist, casual pleb and shit taste also don't exist. |
Zapredon said: I think paying Crunchy Roll is the most simple and easiest way for us to support the anime industry but I don't see any harm buying the dvd/bluray too. Buying the actual product would support the industry more. |
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| How much does anime industry earn from selling dvd/bluray?. Does TV sponsorship/advertising in Japan produce more money or dvd/bluray sale produce more money? |
But it's important to remember that a movie review is subjective;it only gives you one person's opinion. http://www.classzone.com/books/lnetwork_gr08/page_build.cfm?content=analyz_media&ch=30 It doesn't matter if you like LoGH,Monster etc.If you are a jobless or college/school dropout living in your mom basement, you are still an unintelligent loser. Taste in anime does not make you a better person.If elitist don't exist, casual pleb and shit taste also don't exist. |
Okashi_sama said: The only way to support the industry is to be a god-tier hacker and shut down every illegal streaming/downloading site so that people must pay to watch anime. Implying you can actually legally purchase anime to begin with in a lot of countries ,without having to spend +xxxx amounts of dollars/euros for just one series on Ebay or Amazon. Until then keep on dreaming bud.... |
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amateur said: Okashi_sama said: The only way to support the industry is to be a god-tier hacker and shut down every illegal streaming/downloading site so that people must pay to watch anime. Implying you can actually legally purchase anime to begin with in a lot of countries ,without having to spend +xxxx amounts of dollars/euros for just one series on Ebay or Amazon. Until then keep on dreaming bud.... Well, i tried. |
| Your honor, I never wrote this post. |
| as people have said, it's better to buy directly from japan is you want to make a significant contribution personally I don't agree with buying anime dvds in the west because I feel nauseous at the idea of lining the pockets of dub voice actors. especially since I'll never watch the dub so I'm basically donating money to those scumbags. and when you take into account their paychecks + licensing fees and other costs I doubt the Japanese actually see much of the money they make from their western audience |
JD2411 said: The thought that some of your money may or may not be keeping decent hardworking people in the job, most of which don't make nearly enough from voice acting to support themselves or their families as it is and work side jobs so they can keep voice acting without being kicked out on the streets, makes you want to throw up?personally I don't agree with buying anime dvds in the west because I feel nauseous at the idea of lining the pockets of dub voice actors Wow, you really are weeaboo trash. |
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SeibaaPriest said: JD2411 said: The thought that some of your money may or may not be keeping decent hardworking people in the job, most of which don't make nearly enough from it to support themselves or their families as it is and work side jobs so they can keep voice acting without being kicked out on the streets, makes you want to throw up?personally I don't agree with buying anime dvds in the west because I feel nauseous at the idea of lining the pockets of dub voice actors Wow, you really are weeaboo trash. implying thats what Johnny Yung Butterscotch's life is like. Better actually look into it. |
SolvitePriest said: Johnny Yong Bosch was in Power Rangers and top of that he's Vash the Stampede, Renton Thurston, Lelouch vi Britannia and fucking Ichigo Kurosaki among many, many other roles. You really think he's going to be reflective of the majority?SeibaaPriest said: The thought that some of your money may or may not be keeping decent hardworking people in the job, most of which don't make nearly enough from it to support themselves or their families as it is and work side jobs so they can keep voice acting without being kicked out on the streets, makes you want to throw up? Wow, you really are weeaboo trash. implying thats what Johnny Yung Butterscotch's life is like. Better actually look into it. It's a well known fact that voice acting is a shit job for making money unless you're someone like Tara Strong. How about you look into it? |
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SeibaaPriest said: they chose that career so it's not my problemJD2411 said: The thought that some of your money may or may not be keeping decent hardworking people in the job, most of which don't make nearly enough from voice acting to support themselves or their families as it is and work side jobs so they can keep voice acting without being kicked out on the streets, makes you want to throw up?personally I don't agree with buying anime dvds in the west because I feel nauseous at the idea of lining the pockets of dub voice actors Wow, you really are weeaboo trash. |
JD2411 said: First you say 'Giving money to them makes me nauseous'SeibaaPriest said: they chose that career so it's not my problemThe thought that some of your money may or may not be keeping decent hardworking people in the job, most of which don't make nearly enough from voice acting to support themselves or their families as it is and work side jobs so they can keep voice acting without being kicked out on the streets, makes you want to throw up? Wow, you really are weeaboo trash. Now you're saying 'I don't care about them' Make up your mind already |
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JD2411 said: SeibaaPriest said: they chose that career so it's not my problemThe thought that some of your money may or may not be keeping decent hardworking people in the job, most of which don't make nearly enough from voice acting to support themselves or their families as it is and work side jobs so they can keep voice acting without being kicked out on the streets, makes you want to throw up? Wow, you really are weeaboo trash. lol he quoted filthy frank without even watching the show. |
| Not really, considering the Japanese audience is much bigger than the foreign one, and only a few Westerners are willing to pay the full price for a Japanese BD/DVD. Besides, they don't count overseas sales towards total disc sales, and most Japanese BD/DVDs aren't subbed in English, so is it really worth paying ten times as much for a full series than if you buy it from Funimation, etc.? |
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JD2411 said: I just love the thoughts of people like this.... yeah Japanese are awesome English speakers suck... seriously whats wrong with peoples headsSeibaaPriest said: they chose that career so it's not my problemThe thought that some of your money may or may not be keeping decent hardworking people in the job, most of which don't make nearly enough from voice acting to support themselves or their families as it is and work side jobs so they can keep voice acting without being kicked out on the streets, makes you want to throw up? Wow, you really are weeaboo trash. Edit: also I hate the Japanese apparent fascination with having a woman voice a grown freaking adult/teenage man |
SolvitePriest said: You know how you sometimes respond to something and respond to it again later on when you think to yourself 'Ooh! I just thought of a joke I could make!'?JD2411 said: they chose that career so it's not my problem lol he quoted filthy frank without even watching the show. Yeah, stop doing that. |
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Killaclown said: JD2411 said: I just love the thoughts of people like this.... yeah Japanese are awesome English speakers suck... seriously whats wrong with peoples headsthey chose that career so it's not my problem Edit: also I hate the Japanese apparent fascination with having a woman voice a grown freaking adult/teenage man You're implying that doesn't also happen in dubs. |
FGAU1912 said: Perhaps your "angre" prevented you from seeing that I never said that CR subscriptions provide as much or more revenue than disc purchases. I only said that legal streaming provides more revenue than illegal views do. If you want it in mathematical terms, the continuum would look like this:what makes the inudsty more money impating DVD or get a 6usd sub ot cr do the damm math im sorry my angre Buying Japanese discs > buying overseas discs > subscribing to legal streaming services > watching ad-supported legal streams > 0 (=downloading) > watching illegal streams > buying bootlegged discs Drunk_Samurai said: it does, but not nearly as often.You're implying that [females playing male roles] doesn't also happen in dubs. JD2411 said: You may be surprised to learn that not all Western discs even have dubs to begin with. And of course, the same conditions of unstable work and poverty could be said of Japanese VAs (NSFW) as well.personally I don't agree with buying anime dvds in the west because I feel nauseous at the idea of lining the pockets of dub voice actors * they chose that career so it's not my problem Lancehot said: So who is to blame? The companies who made a product that many fans obviously enjoyed watching? How do you compete with free on price, or compete with people who don't have to sign contracts or obey any laws on speed?Supporting the industry is marketing spin media companies (& some fans) use to imply that the blame for the failure of a product lies squarely on the consumer. |
| Eh? I'm one of those rare consumers who has a public library. I can rent DVD's if I want to watch things legally! Hurrah! |
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| No problem if you can watch anime raw |
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