| ufotable taking liberties. |
| Hopefully we can get a remake from Studio Pierrot to fix this. |
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| I don't mind if they change things for the better xD |
Saritur said: so in the latest ep saber could slash through berserkers skin and leave flesh wounds on him, but in Fate her sword couldn't penetrate his skin. am i missing something? nothing has changed really Since she is less focused on defending Shirou and RIn, she takes the fight more seriously and uses more offensive approach. |
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| In the VN, she only used Invisible Air and didn't dispel the wind. As such, her Rank C Noble Phantasm was doing nothing to Berserker's Rank B skin. However, in the anime Saber released Invisible Air, and the sword underneath the sheath of wind has a Rank high enough to land a killing blow on Berserker. |
| Perhaps it's the laws of physics? The sword did not pierce the skin instantly, instead it was slowly driven into the skin. Imagine slashing a nail at a piece of wood - there'd be barely a scrach. However, if you hold it in one place and drive it in, the nail would certainly leave a deep enough mark to at least partially secure the nail. |
| It still seems like a slight plot hole because |
kingcity20 said: Oh for the love of -_- nvm gotta love MAL |
antonn said: Hopefully we can get a remake from Studio Pierrot to fix this. dear god no |
Rinth said: MiniSiets said: It still seems like a slight plot hole because Illya saw Archer's stats and thought he was useless. Then that giant explosion showed that Archer was not useless. Yes, but this is Illya's exact words, "Yes, I changed my mind. I don't care about Saber, but your Archer has piqued my interest." After Archer's arrow didn't do fuck all against Berserker and Saber just ripped Berserker a new one, you have to admit that is a little silly of a statement. But I guess it's fair to say she might have been surprised that Archer's abilities didn't seem to be matching his stats whereas for Saber to do that much damage to Berserker, it was to be expected, so it is the mystery surrounding Archer's abilities that has caught her interest. |
kingcity20 said: Oh for the love of -_- nvm gotta love MAL |
RinPriest said: Remember, every one but Shirou knew That's a VERY good point. Another possibility is that... |
| No matter how I look at it, Archer's explosive was a lot more impressive than Saber's attack. I think Illya viewed him as a sort of wild card at that point and, considering what he did in Fate while fighting Berserker, that was probably a good idea. |
| "Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job." - Geralt of Rivia |
WrongPriest said: Nobody could watch an explosion that manly and waddle away with dry panties. I didn't. GAR too much |
insan3priest said: No matter how I look at it, Archer's explosive was a lot more impressive than Saber's attack. I think Illya viewed him as a sort of wild card at that point and, considering what he did in Fate while fighting Berserker, that was probably a good idea. Note what Illya says at the start of the fight - she thinks ARcher and Rin have no way at hurting berserker and orders to focus on Saber, whom she expects to have an ability to at least kill Berserker once. Then Archer interrupts her and rin's fight AND explodes the nuke. |
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InsertPriestHere said: Slightly better version, thanks to FakePriest:WrongPriest said: Nobody could watch an explosion that manly and waddle away with dry panties. I didn't. GAR too much Bump. Well, the theory that might actually be true. I was watching the episode again and I noticed this: You can clearly see |
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antonn said: Hopefully we can get a remake from Studio Pierrot to fix this. Na I want to see how Shaft would adapt it lol |
| Saber pandering was inevitable. |
 Anime is good, fucking deal with it. |
BotatoPriest said: I found the pic in one of the threads.The credits go to userIcantremember.InsertPriestHere said: Slightly better version, thanks to FakePriest:GAR too much Bump. Well, the theory that might actually be true. I was watching the episode again and I noticed this: You can clearly see |
Saritur said: no one could back it up with vn logic k chalk it up to ufotable just changing shit Botato just gave a really good explanation. Sometimes you dont need "source material" explanations to explain something. |
BotatoPriest said: InsertPriestHere said: Slightly better version, thanks to FakePriest:GAR too much Bump. Well, the theory that might actually be true. I was watching the episode again and I noticed this: You can clearly see Called it. Even without the visual confirmation it was obvious. |
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| Archer could and should have just killed Ilya. His standing there brain dead for 10 minutes (oh look, the camera is off me, people are too stupid to remember I exist, time to sleep!) renders the show's fights as being a pathetic waste of time. There is no point debating tiny details of them, it's just random nonsense. |
antonn said: LMFAOHopefully we can get a remake from Studio Pierrot to fix this. |
FragOutFire said: Why am I a Berserk fan? All I ever experience is pain. We are in the eclipse and Miura has sacrificed us |
Sokah said: Archer could and should have just killed Ilya. His standing there brain dead for 10 minutes (oh look, the camera is off me, people are too stupid to remember I exist, time to sleep!) renders the show's fights as being a pathetic waste of time. There is no point debating tiny details of them, it's just random nonsense. There was almost 10 pages in the anime discussion thread where this was discussed in detail. And for all of the responses of people who are familiar with the characters and situation the answer was: No, Archer could not and would not kill Illya. You can go back and look there if you're not convinced. So no, it's not all random nonsense, events had reasons for happening and not happening. |
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Ketuekigami said: Sokah said: Archer could and should have just killed Ilya. His standing there brain dead for 10 minutes (oh look, the camera is off me, people are too stupid to remember I exist, time to sleep!) renders the show's fights as being a pathetic waste of time. There is no point debating tiny details of them, it's just random nonsense. There was almost 10 pages in the anime discussion thread where this was discussed in detail. And for all of the responses of people who are familiar with the characters and situation the answer was: No, Archer could not and would not kill Illya. You can go back and look there if you're not convinced. So no, it's not all random nonsense, events had reasons for happening and not happening. Hell, to add to this, if you go back and look at that particular scene, Illya is very clearly shown still in his sights but.......Archer stops aiming. The viewer should obviously be asking "why would he do that?". |
| "Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job." - Geralt of Rivia |
| Reason why Illya is more interested in Archer: |
 Doesn't this make you hungry? |
MapoTofu said: Pretty much. She disregarded him as trash at the beginning of the fight, then he proceeds to throw a Rank A NP like it's nothing. Definitely not as shitty as she thought.Reason why Illya is more interested in Archer: |
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| Probably good that ufotable are taking some liberties, I mean It makes it much more interesting for VN readers. |
| Missing the times of Rewrite, good times. |
Valaskjalf said: antonn said: Hopefully we can get a remake from Studio Pierrot to fix this. Na I want to see how Shaft would adapt it lol If we're lucky we could even see a head tilt from berserker. |
| Shaft should just work on Fate/Extra adaptation. They did animate the OP: |
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black1blade said: Saber pandering was inevitable. This, really. Saber's attack are only B-rank at best with Invisible Air, even if she used If she doesn't activate the NP, it will only land a B-rank attack. >BL facts right there, most hard-core fate fags >Let's all just accept this as Saber fapping and get along. |
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| Excalibur slashes are still A rank tho. |
| Andd..... This is why I kind of despise the Fate/ fanbase. Can't we just have a normal discussion without 90% of the thread being spoiler tags? Please. |
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FakePriest said: Excalibur slashes are still A rank tho. No, if not activated as an NP, the slash will use Saber's strength, which is only, in this case, a B-rank. |
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M3k4toku said: Andd..... This is why I kind of despise the Fate/ fanbase. Can't we just have a normal discussion without 90% of the thread being spoiler tags? Please. No, it's highly info dump. And most of your questions involve us talking about spoilers. It's your mistakes tbh. Considering everything in the Fate/franchise is connected/linked. |
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M3k4toku said: thats just something all fanbases do. at least were nice enough to spoilertagAndd..... This is why I kind of despise the Fate/ fanbase. Can't we just have a normal discussion without 90% of the thread being spoiler tags? Please. |
mirakura said: FakePriest said: Excalibur slashes are still A rank tho. No, if not activated as an NP, the slash will use Saber's strength, which is only, in this case, a B-rank. Caliburn that is"weaker" passed through GH. And I dont remember any material saying that an weapons rank will decrease if the Servant's stats are lower. |
FakePriest said: mirakura said: No, if not activated as an NP, the slash will use Saber's strength, which is only, in this case, a B-rank. Caliburn that is"weaker" passed through GH. And I dont remember any material saying that an weapons rank will decrease if the Servant's stats are lower. Caliburn was activated. Using the joint power and prana of Shirou AND Saber - it shouldn't be classified as B-rank anymore - it past through GH, and was FULLY activated, like a full excaliblast, inside of him. Hence: death. Don't believe me? Ask literally everyone in BL. ;D |
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mirakura said: Except that Shirou by himself cut off Berserker's arm as well.FakePriest said: Caliburn that is"weaker" passed through GH. And I dont remember any material saying that an weapons rank will decrease if the Servant's stats are lower. Caliburn was activated. Using the joint power and prana of Shirou AND Saber - it shouldn't be classified as B-rank anymore - it past through GH, and was FULLY activated, like a full excaliblast, inside of him. Hence: death. Don't believe me? Ask literally everyone in BL. ;D Unless if all of this is a joke aboUt BL's users that I dont get. |
M3k4toku said: Andd..... This is why I kind of despise the Fate/ fanbase. Can't we just have a normal discussion without 90% of the thread being spoiler tags? Please. The main point of this thread is basically asking for an anime/original comparison. I really don't understand what a "normal" discussion is in this thread that doesn't involve original material. The spoiler tags even being here shows that the fanbase is actually trying to be sincere. |
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FakePriest said: mirakura said: Except that Shirou by himself cut off Berserker's arm as well.Caliburn was activated. Using the joint power and prana of Shirou AND Saber - it shouldn't be classified as B-rank anymore - it past through GH, and was FULLY activated, like a full excaliblast, inside of him. Hence: death. Don't believe me? Ask literally everyone in BL. ;D Unless if all of this is a joke aboUt BL's users that I dont get. Exactly, but thing is 1) Caliburn destroys all rules anyway 2) It was activated then - all that glowy shit 3) Lol, yeah, BL joke :3 |
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mirakura said: You are making 0 sense at the moment.FakePriest said: Except that Shirou by himself cut off Berserker's arm as well. Unless if all of this is a joke aboUt BL's users that I dont get. Exactly, but thing is 1) Caliburn destroys all rules anyway 2) It was activated then - all that glowy shit 3) Lol, yeah, BL joke :3 |
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| 1)No thats Rule Breaker :p 2)It wasnt activated YET. 3)Got it. |
| I just re-read UBW... It seems wolves in Einzbern forest in Germany have A-Rank bites. They were able to eat through Berserker's flesh after all. |
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| You need one of three things to pass through God Hand: -A Rank magic -A Rank strength -A Rank Noble Phantasm Which neither of the three Saber possessed or used. No, it doesn't matter at all if she is actually wielding Excalibur, she has a boundary field, a wind sheath, around it, so by all nerdy DnD talks' rights, there is no way she could pass through Berserker's concept. Unless Animation Material gives us the same bs explanation from Apocrypha, if we get an explanation at all. |
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