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Oct 8, 2014 6:57 AM
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So I think harems have to get the most undeserved hate of all genres in anime just because how often people will just flat out say they dislike harems.


I mean what is a harem. I don't know about you, but the only image that comes to my mind involves a large red chair and the mc sitting with a stylish pose with at least one women per appendage. And sure watching that move around a screen wouldn't exactly be interesting. Well you never know.

But then you hear some people:
$$$$$ said:
i dislike harems unless they are like ZnT where the female mc is clear.

Soooo he is no good with harems but if the MC has multiple friends with benefits it is alright? There has to be some:
"oh god what will people think of me if I say I like harems"
Going on here.

So now that I got to have fun writing crazy random fluff on my post, I swear 90% of people who say that they don't like harems says so because of the 3 following reasons:
1) they don't want to be that guy that is into harems.
2) they want the relationship between the 2 main characters to get 'deeper', in other words they wanna set some kisses, maybe some suggestive bedroom scenes, which in the end is a bit more perverted than thinking harems are cool. I mean which makes you think more of a pervert that guy in the chair with girls on every appendage or someone peering in from behind the camera on that couple getting their hots on under the blankets?

Thoughts?

EDIT: I forgot to write the 3rd reason. 3) There is nothing interesting about a harem if you aren't a man interested in women.
SAMOAKOct 8, 2014 7:24 AM
Oct 8, 2014 6:58 AM
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I agree with you.
Oct 8, 2014 6:59 AM
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ZNT?

zetsuen no tempest or zankyou no terror?
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Oct 8, 2014 7:00 AM
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Girls hate harems for the same reason boys hate reverse harems.
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Oct 8, 2014 7:01 AM
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amateur said:
ZNT?

zetsuen no tempest or zankyou no terror?


None of those, it's most likely to be Zero no Tsukaima.
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Oct 8, 2014 7:04 AM
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You only stated 2 reasons in your opening post though out of supposedly 3.
Oct 8, 2014 7:06 AM
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xmaikokoro said:
amateur said:
ZNT?

zetsuen no tempest or zankyou no terror?


None of those, it's most likely to be Zero no Tsukaima.
Probably.
Oct 8, 2014 7:13 AM
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Most harem shows are there only to serve the fact that there is a harem in this show, regardless how boring and shitty the show really is, and in most cases you never get anything out of it, just sub-plots that serve no real purpose.
Oct 8, 2014 7:16 AM
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Xynic said:
Girls hate harems for the same reason boys hate reverse harems.

You've got a point there. I was thinking about that one, but forgot to write that. But that is a pretty legitimate reason. And there are other legitimate reasons, like the itemization of women or that it is incredibly unlikely that any girl would willfully join a harem, but it is anime so realism isn't exactly the expectation.

natsucule said:
Most harem shows are there only to serve the fact that there is a harem in this show, regardless how boring and shitty the show really is, and in most cases you never get anything out of it, just sub-plots that serve no real purpose.


Most of the flagship harems aren't even like that though. I mean even ZeroNT (for clarification) is full of admittedly bad action and magic. TWGOK was pretty much only harem romance through and through and it still had plot.
SAMOAKOct 8, 2014 7:22 AM
Oct 8, 2014 7:19 AM

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I'll just put out there. A harem is actually allowed in islam. Not that it matters, handling one woman is a pain enough.
Oct 8, 2014 7:23 AM

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Nikoka said:
Zetsuen no Tempest was harem? Wut?

No,no,no,no. The other ZnT. With the shitty pink brat. Zero no Tsukaima.
Oct 8, 2014 7:23 AM

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I agree, although I dislike harems myself, most of them, I just don't hate them, or feel the urge to share my dislike.
Oct 8, 2014 7:25 AM

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natsucule said:
I'll just put out there. A harem is actually allowed in islam. Not that it matters, handling one woman is a pain enough.

The word is taken from Islam and eastern culture in the first place..
Oct 8, 2014 7:25 AM

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I think people don't like harems because they're just notioriously shit - they're pure advertisements for the game/VN/ whatever they were adapted from, the jokes are unfunny, the scenarious unrealistic, it's hard to relate with the MC, etc etc etc


worldeditor11 said:
You only stated 2 reasons in your opening post though out of supposedly 3.
where's the last reason???? i'm sooo curious!!!



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Oct 8, 2014 7:25 AM

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natsucule said:
I'll just put out there. A harem is actually allowed in islam. Not that it matters, handling one woman is a pain enough.

All hail the 72 virgins!

Lime_ said:
I think people don't like harems because they're just notioriously shit - they're pure advertisements for the game/VN/ whatever they were adapted from, the jokes are unfunny, the scenarious unrealistic, it's hard to relate with the MC, etc etc etc

That is a valid point VNs have you start over for every conquest for good reason. And only Amagami as far as I know does that, but then it is still just advertising.
SAMOAKOct 8, 2014 7:31 AM
Oct 8, 2014 7:26 AM

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many harem is like rom com but with more girls (or guys!)
Oct 8, 2014 7:28 AM

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SAMOAK said:
natsucule said:
I'll just put out there. A harem is actually allowed in islam. Not that it matters, handling one woman is a pain enough.

All hail the 72 virgins!

That's for those in heaven. IRL you get to marry fpur at the same time. polygamy=harem.
Oct 8, 2014 7:30 AM

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natsucule said:
SAMOAK said:

All hail the 72 virgins!

That's for those in heaven. IRL you get to marry fpur at the same time. polygamy=harem.

Oh that, you don't have to go that far, there are plenty of polygamist Mormons.
Oct 8, 2014 8:20 AM

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Or they just hate them cuz they think they're crap,which,from the few i've watched..........they are
Oct 8, 2014 8:23 AM

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tsudecimo said:
natsucule said:
I'll just put out there. A harem is actually allowed in islam. Not that it matters, handling one woman is a pain enough.

The word is taken from Islam and eastern culture in the first place..


Believe it or not,that's how i watched my first (and only) harem,cuz i knew the word haram (forbidden),i assumed it would be on some demonic shit.Needless to say i was dissapointed.
Oct 8, 2014 8:23 AM

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amateur said:
ZNT?

zetsuen no tempest or zankyou no terror?

Uncultured turd.
Oct 8, 2014 8:31 AM

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Is Berserk harem? :P
I mean Gutts is hanging around many chicks lately. One of them id literally a loli and the other is a midget fairy.
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Oct 8, 2014 8:33 AM

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Yea harems are only good if you like them. Go figure.
Oct 8, 2014 8:38 AM

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4) Harem is boring.
Oct 8, 2014 8:43 AM

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I dont like Harems because they're boring and I prefer wasting my time in more interesting genres

Oct 8, 2014 8:45 AM

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vongola-undecimo said:
tsudecimo said:

The word is taken from Islam and eastern culture in the first place..


Believe it or not,that's how i watched my first (and only) harem,cuz i knew the word haram (forbidden),i assumed it would be on some demonic shit.Needless to say i was dissapointed.

Lmao.

That's hilarious. I never made that connection before lol.
Oct 8, 2014 8:51 AM

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Ive come to dislike harems simply because theyre like the incarnation of a story that will never finish and I hate stories that refuse to end.
Oct 8, 2014 9:03 AM

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I dont like harems because the plot never really goes anywhere and the romantic developement is usually non existent.
Oct 8, 2014 9:34 AM

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harems are booooring, I may be interested at first but I end up dropping them pretty early.
Oct 8, 2014 10:05 AM

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Oh wow another OP that makes it look like every heterosexual male has to be immediately interested in anything that remotely revolves around tits, asses and random women throwing themselves at the MC, no matter the context. Simply because it's the manly thing to do. Men must always prioritize a focus on heterosexual fanservice over the more trivial aspects like story, characters or premise, if they don't want to be seen as gay (and obviously any heterosexual male must be extremely scared of being viewed as gay since otherwise they are already gay).

Instead of what the OP said:
1) they don't want to be that guy that is into harems.


I might as well say 90% of the people who like harems do it because they don't want to be that guy who is not interested in something related to heterosexual relations/fanservice, because they think it makes them gay if they don't spend 90% of their brain capacity thinking about WOMEN, TITS and SEX all the time. Since, you know, apparently you can only REALLY dislike harems when you're not a man who's interested in women. Because if you were, your priority in every context, every single aspect of your life would automatically be to look out for tits etc.. so it would be unnatural not to enjoy harems, no matter the quality, characters or really any form of context.

So yeah, Cheers!
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Oct 8, 2014 10:14 AM

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Because you`re not the target audience.
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Oct 8, 2014 10:36 AM

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My friends had so many harem series, so I know it. I mean.. Harem is stupidest things ever.
Most of all is usually cliche, and boring as fuck.
Oct 8, 2014 10:52 AM

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I'll like a harem so long as it's well written and executed well. I can't think of any off the top of my head. A lot of people like Nisekoi, but... that series is getting milked hard and the writing has been bad for a long time now.

But opening door -> seeing girl naked -> both stand there awkwardly for like 10 seconds before an action is taken is dumb. Stuff like reaching out / accidental boob grab, falling over each other, accidental boob grab, face in crotch etc... that stuff is tired and lazy and stupid and harems are full of it. The laziness in to create said situations is down right awful. Sometimes, the situation works and is funny, but I've literally seen it with 2 people both walking down a straight street one going ---------> <------------- and NEITHER person sees the other and they fall on top of each other? Really?

People are correct in that it's usually cliche and boring. And it is REALLY cringe worthy when they try to make some half-assed plot out of the harem.
I.e. Asu no Yoichi / Rokujouma no Shinryakusha!? / w/e the hell else is like that.

Also, if guys were really that into porn we'd use it for hours a day instead of like 5-10 min a day to clean the pipes. And I don't think I know any guys who watch porn all day in their spare time.
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