| First off this article if like a year old and it's from bloody Sankaku, so you should take it with a grain of salt. Second there's always gonna be some fake ass feminist somewhere trying to push their on twisted moral values onto other people by causing some sort of shit storm. Lastly, who in their right minds would take a fictional piece of work seriously. Especially when the work itself isn't even trying to be taken seriously. It's one thing to bring up points of racism or sexism in a biblical text or a Mark Twain novel but this? What the fuck? |
| Dude modern feminism is a joke, nothing more than white noise. Its a damn kawaii drawing for entertainment. We are not gonna rape our screens. |
Symqn said: Feminists are the cancer of this planet so they should be ignored or removed. Yes this comment was meant to offend them. +1 |
Sung-Hwan said: I love feminism and support everything it stands for, so I agree with those people. I really doubt this. http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1277007&show=20 It's one thing to support feminism but this kind of shit isn't feminism. It's just idiots being idiots and calling a drawing something it isn't. |
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Sung-Hwan said: Drunk_Samurai said: I really doubt this. http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1277007&show=20 It's one thing to support feminism but this kind of shit isn't feminism. It's just idiots being idiots and calling a drawing something it isn't. Women are equal to men and it do not deserve to be seen as petty objects of lust for men. What better way to prove this than to start revolution? Because obviously women don't ever lust after men. Besides you missed the point. Lolicon isn't child porn or whatever else people want to call it. |
Sung-Hwan said: I love feminism and support everything it stands for, so I agree with those people. I was like, who the hell is thi...oh him XD. What's up Sung? |
Sung-Hwan said: It's close man. Also, it has the protection of being in the realm of anime/manga's obscurity. Nothing'll be done about it, but it is what it is. Enjoy lolis to your hearts content. It isn't close at all. They're drawings which means it can't be child porn because no actual child is involved. "Feminists" want to ban it which is just stupid shit. Also I'm not a lolicon, I just defend it and the people who do. Also nice job ignoring my first sentence. |
Sung-Hwan said: Drunk_Samurai said: It isn't close at all. They're drawings which means it can't be child porn because no actual child is involved. "Feminists" want to ban it which is just stupid shit. Also I'm not a lolicon, I just defend it and the people who do. Also nice job ignoring my first sentence. Cool man. If they succeed, power to them, if they don't, it is what it is. 4/10. I think you could troll a bit better than that. |
| They want to boycott the lolicon we pay attention to these feminazis women who are usually fat and ugly. |
| banning depiction of sexualised children seems like a good approach tbh. as long as they stop producing shit anime like strike witches I'm with those feminists. No game no life might have had a chance of not offending my eyes if it hadn't been for the existence of that oversexualized loli thing "character" |
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TheNaturalPerm said: banning depiction of sexualised children seems like a good approach tbh. as long as they stop producing shit anime like strike witches I'm with those feminists. No game no life might have had a chance of not offending my eyes if it hadn't been for the existence of that oversexualized loli thing "character" They wouldn't stop producing anything. |
TheNaturalPerm said: banning depiction of sexualised children seems like a good approach tbh. That's child pornography you're talking about, not lolicon. as long as they stop producing shit anime like strike witches I'm with those feminists. No game no life might have had a chance of not offending my eyes if it hadn't been for the existence of that oversexualized loli thing "character" The only reason they want it banned is because there are people who like it and they don't, it's as simple as that. The whole 'sexualizing children' argument is a mere ruse to grab attention (and even support) from the mindless sheep who are susceptible to it. Also, if you think they'll stop at lolicon, you're sadly mistaken. Once they get that out of the way, they'll simply move on to the next thing on their list, whatever it may be, until we men have nothing left to enjoy and they have us in the palms of their hands If you don't like it, don't watch it, and leave those who do like it alone. |
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Sung-Hwan said: Drunk_Samurai said: Because obviously women don't ever lust after men. Besides you missed the point. Lolicon isn't child porn or whatever else people want to call it. It's close man. Also, it has the protection of being in the realm of anime/manga's obscurity. Nothing'll be done about it, but it is what it is. Enjoy lolis to your hearts content. Mmmm, coldy thought there is a missunderstanding on the term lolita apply on anime/manga, so on Nabokov's novel is depicted a 12 years old girlchild. . . the most of non hentai content of material are non sexual focused, so not abuse material. . . The most of literary man give this book a great work, so I have my dudes about the theme. . . So if there is no sexual content why the discussion - I'm not a loli manga/anime follower - but there are amusing ones on Ro Kyu Bu!, Papa no Iukoto wo Kikinasai! or Kodomo no Jikan - so I have my reserves on this one, are impressions of the authoress herself, so . . . -. The wrong are in the hentai issue that promote the pedophilia and criminal acts, so this is no a feminist cause, so an Humanity cause to protect our childrens from [b]bad people[/u]; so bad flag for fems. . . This is false and selfish dialectic and demagogy, to promote a movement. |
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Zergneedsfood said: Dcyend said: I honestly have no clue what you just said here.Mmmm, coldy thought there is a missunderstanding on the term lolita apply on anime/manga, so on Nabokov's novel is depicted a 12 years old girlchild. . . the most of non hentai content of material are non sexual focused, so not abuse material. . . The most of literary man give this book a great work Me: "Ooo someone talking about my fav novel...wait...what?" |
TheNaturalPerm said: But "child" in the eyes of the feminist-inspired law means "anyone who is or appears to be under 18." I'm pretty sure some of the other characters in NGNL are under 18 or at least might look that way, meaning that it'd still be banned (along with many many other anime not seen by the fandom as overtly lolicon/shotacon) as "depiction of sexualized children," and you'd still be a pedophile in the eyes of the feminists. Be careful what you wish for; being a male feminist "ally" is a good way to get stabbed in the back.banning depiction of sexualised children seems like a good approach tbh. as long as they stop producing shit anime like strike witches I'm with those feminists. No game no life might have had a chance of not offending my eyes if it hadn't been for the existence of that oversexualized loli thing "character" Besides, through the first 8 episodes of No Game No Life, I'm not even seeing Shiro* as overly-sexualized, compared to the other female characters. Sure, she gets a few random pantyshots and steam-covered bathing scenes (better ban Doraemon and Totoro, too!), but she doesn't get dressed in a maid outfit with no underwear and dog ears and a tail, or have an extended moaning sequence while her erogenous zones get caressed. * Though if you're talking about Izuna, I haven't seen much of her yet... |
| well I think "lolicons" are pretty creepy. Why would you want to fawn over someone who looks or is 11 years-old. some people growing up with loli porn will think its ok to never mature and just lust after underage girls... And you can say things like its just cartoons and that theyre not real. But that doesn't matter to people, and you know that by how even most people here can find both humans and anime characters attractive or by how people want to know which anime character they look like. People don't properly distinguish things. ps. since im already saying stuff that people will cry about. Lets try and say a littler more. Nobody looks like any anime character. Anime characters are totally proportioned wrong compared to a real person. Besides, the only way to distinguish an anime characters apart from each other is by their costume and their hair, other than that, they all look the same. |
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DrGeroCreation said: It can't be the same thing because lolis are obviously not anime depictions of little girls just like characters like Master Roshi, Yamamoto Genryusai, Makarov are obviously not old men. You see when it comes to anime characters there is zero distinction based on age or development. You can't tell at all if an anime character is meant to be a child, teenager or adult you can only guess. For example there is no way I can tell the difference between Erza and Wendy when it comes to age. My best guess is that Wendy is a 60 year old woman while Erza is 10 years old.ninjastarforcex said: its same shit bro |
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lunaticsrus said: People don't fawn over lolis because they think they look "11 years old". People fawn over lolis because they think they're adorable.well I think "lolicons" are pretty creepy. Why would you want to fawn over someone who looks or is 11 years-old. |
| So you must pay attention if the manga or anime treat about false loli moe, so is very usual nowadays Toaru Majutsu no INDEX i.e. So I must say people have to let appart animation or manga side the true living, so one thing is fantasy, other reality in everyday life. |
DcyendSep 28, 2014 10:23 PM
I'll tell you something, my Tenchi. You know, the carnival comes and goes... if you wait for a while, it'll always come back to you, Tenchi. |
Lancehot said: You don't have to "look 11 years old" to be adorable. And not every lolicon is exclusively attracted to lolis, so it's possible for someone to like adorable girls in general.Rivalrun said: People don't fawn over lolis because they think they look "11 years old". People fawn over lolis because they think they're adorable. ...because they look 11 years old |
Rivalrun said: Lancehot said: You don't have to "look 11 years old" to be adorable. And not every lolicon is exclusively attracted to lolis, so it's possible for someone to like adorable girls in general....because they look 11 years old A truth like punch!! So adorablehood it's no age matter, I think if you are an adult go and treat and act like one. . . Let childhood go free to grown up to a healthy adult, so you can then treat with an equal person. Ha, ha, ha! I remembered an old classic and the dialog by Cary Grant on Operation Petticoat: "Let him, she is of age. Less 21 are protected by laws; over 60 by Nature. The rest is free hunting!" XD The rest issue about lolis is insanity. |
DcyendSep 25, 2014 1:16 PM
I'll tell you something, my Tenchi. You know, the carnival comes and goes... if you wait for a while, it'll always come back to you, Tenchi. |
PerfectScore said: Finally, straw feminists have an argument we can all agree upon. It's too bad they haven't bothered to push this agenda after 10 months since this article. Well I'm disagreeing in the form, I put above I consider it a false and selfish form of demagogy. So the theme is a matter of all the people, but . . . When the manga or the anime don't involve sexual content nor abuse, can you say it's wrong? Because normal people can be afraid to say "Oh, I like too much Hanamaru Youchien!" if the rest is going to tick off "another lolicom", so care must be taken about it. |
DcyendSep 28, 2014 10:25 PM
I'll tell you something, my Tenchi. You know, the carnival comes and goes... if you wait for a while, it'll always come back to you, Tenchi. |
AO968 said: TheNaturalPerm said: banning depiction of sexualised children seems like a good approach tbh. That's child pornography you're talking about, not lolicon. as long as they stop producing shit anime like strike witches I'm with those feminists. No game no life might have had a chance of not offending my eyes if it hadn't been for the existence of that oversexualized loli thing "character" The only reason they want it banned is because there are people who like it and they don't, it's as simple as that. The whole 'sexualizing children' argument is a mere ruse to grab attention (and even support) from the mindless sheep who are susceptible to it. Also, if you think they'll stop at lolicon, you're sadly mistaken. Once they get that out of the way, they'll simply move on to the next thing on their list, whatever it may be, until we men have nothing left to enjoy and they have us in the palms of their hands If you don't like it, don't watch it, and leave those who do like it alone. They tried to get rape eroge banned too. I don't remember what happened with that. ninjastarforcex said: AO968 said: That's child pornography you're talking about, not lolicon. " its same shit bro[/quote] Just like shooting a civilian in GTA makes you a murderer. lunaticsrus said: well I think "lolicons" are pretty creepy. Why would you want to fawn over someone who looks or is 11 years-old. some people growing up with loli porn will think its ok to never mature and just lust after underage girls... And you can say things like its just cartoons and that theyre not real. But that doesn't matter to people, and you know that by how even most people here can find both humans and anime characters attractive or by how people want to know which anime character they look like. People don't properly distinguish things. ps. since im already saying stuff that people will cry about. Lets try and say a littler more. Nobody looks like any anime character. Anime characters are totally proportioned wrong compared to a real person. Besides, the only way to distinguish an anime characters apart from each other is by their costume and their hair, other than that, they all look the same. Jesus Christ. Talk about major ignorance. People lust after lolicons and not "underaged girls". PerfectScore said: Finally, straw feminists have an argument we can all agree upon. It's too bad they haven't bothered to push this agenda after 10 months since this article. Only the batshit insane people agree with this. |
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ninjastarforcex said: AO968 said: That's child pornography you're talking about, not lolicon. its same shit bro Not even close. The very reason why people think child porn is bad is because it involves sexual abuse of actual, real children for its creation, and the more people want it, the more children get abused for it. Wit lolicon, it's different. To make it, no children become sexually abused by it. the lolis depicted in anime, manga and whatever no don't exist in real life; they're mere figments of one's imagination, so if no actual children get abused to make it, why people make such a fuss over it? I'll tell you: because they cannot separate fact from fiction. People seem to think that if I want to have sex with a loli, I want the same with a real child, too, and that it thus encourages lolicons to go out and seek out children. However, there isn't any concrete evidence for this, not to mention that people have been trying to do this with anything that offends them: be it certain genres of music, games, even books. Every work of fiction has been under scrutiny by some sort of Moral Guardian for decades, if not longer, solely because they didn't like the contents or misunderstood it and believed it promoted 'deviant behavior'. And every time something comes up in the media (like a mass shooting or just a violent murder), it's always the fault of a game, the music one likes listening to, or whatever, never that of the person itself. |
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| I didn't know feminists were the only ones concerned with loli/shotaconshit. |
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Sapewloth said: I didn't know feminists were the only ones concerned with loli/shotaconshit. Sankaku and their followers know that no one but them supports child's representation in pr0n. So they need to identify a smaller imaginary opponent (feminists) to fake indignation, rather than admitting that they're in opposition with society. |
Okiura said: Sapewloth said: I didn't know feminists were the only ones concerned with loli/shotaconshit. Sankaku and their followers know that no one but them supports child's representation in pr0n. So they need to identify a smaller imaginary opponent (feminists) to fake indignation, rather than admitting that they're in opposition with society. Lots of people outside of sankaku are against censorship(banning loli/shotacon). |
Okiura said: But Feminists always get angry about little thingsSapewloth said: I didn't know feminists were the only ones concerned with loli/shotaconshit. Sankaku and their followers know that no one but them supports child's representation in pr0n. So they need to identify a smaller imaginary opponent (feminists) to fake indignation, rather than admitting that they're in opposition with society. |
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rederoin said: Lots of people outside of sankaku are against censorship(banning loli/shotacon). yeah this. regardless of whether youre into loli if you care about the future of the internet please do not support censorship in any form. anyone here agreeing with these feminists is sinking their own ship (not that anyone agrees with feminists LMFAO) and honestly it is harmless. its like saying GTA leads to more car thefts. id also like to add that art is art and has no age nor represents anything definitively. theres characters that are supposed to be 20+ that look like lolis. whos gonna judge whether something is loli? feminists are fking ridiculous lol. |
kurisubestgirl said: rederoin said: Lots of people outside of sankaku are against censorship(banning loli/shotacon). yeah this. regardless of whether youre into loli if you care about the future of the internet please do not support censorship in any form. anyone here agreeing with these feminists is sinking their own ship (not that anyone agrees with feminists LMFAO) and honestly it is harmless. its like saying GTA leads to more car thefts. id also like to add that art is art and has no age nor represents anything definitively. theres characters that are supposed to be 20+ that look like lolis. whos gonna judge whether something is loli? feminists are fking ridiculous lol. Pretty much. The internet should not be censored when it comes to stuff that is not real, be it handdrawn or animated. Let the people watch whatever they want, cause as soon as you start censoring one thing, the next will follow, and before we notice half the internet is censored. |
baki502 said: And then the censored part of the internet is "The weird part of the internet".kurisubestgirl said: yeah this. regardless of whether youre into loli if you care about the future of the internet please do not support censorship in any form. anyone here agreeing with these feminists is sinking their own ship (not that anyone agrees with feminists LMFAO) and honestly it is harmless. its like saying GTA leads to more car thefts. id also like to add that art is art and has no age nor represents anything definitively. theres characters that are supposed to be 20+ that look like lolis. whos gonna judge whether something is loli? feminists are fking ridiculous lol. Pretty much. The internet should not be censored when it comes to stuff that is not real, be it handdrawn or animated. Let the people watch whatever they want, cause as soon as you start censoring one thing, the next will follow, and before we notice half the internet is censored. |
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Okiura said: Sapewloth said: I didn't know feminists were the only ones concerned with loli/shotaconshit. Sankaku and their followers know that no one but them supports child's representation in pr0n. So they need to identify a smaller imaginary opponent (feminists) to fake indignation, rather than admitting that they're in opposition with society. "Imaginary" I loled. You obviously haven't paid attention to many of these threads. Feminists are a major opponent to lolicon. They also tried to ban rape eroge. Milk_is_Special said: baki502 said: And then the censored part of the internet is "The weird part of the internet".Pretty much. The internet should not be censored when it comes to stuff that is not real, be it handdrawn or animated. Let the people watch whatever they want, cause as soon as you start censoring one thing, the next will follow, and before we notice half the internet is censored. That's already true though. Censorship is weird. |
Drunk_Samurai said: Yup, I still think it is really messed up that they have to censor everything on the fucking internet.Okiura said: Sankaku and their followers know that no one but them supports child's representation in pr0n. So they need to identify a smaller imaginary opponent (feminists) to fake indignation, rather than admitting that they're in opposition with society. "Imaginary" I loled. You obviously haven't paid attention to many of these threads. Feminists are a major opponent to lolicon. They also tried to ban rape eroge. Milk_is_Special said: And then the censored part of the internet is "The weird part of the internet". That's already true though. Censorship is weird. |
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Milk_is_Special said: Yup, I still think it is really messed up that they have to censor everything on the fucking internet. Because people are easily offended and will do whatever they can to have anything they find 'weird', disgusting' or whatever banned from sight. And as you see on MAL, if you support lolicon material, you're seen as a pedophile in the eyes of the 'normal' people (who actually are far from that, but either don't know it yet or hide it to look good). But, as (I) said before, it's not just lolicon that people have a problem with. For example, in the US, even an exposed nipple of a woman's breast can throw many (usually bible-thumping) Americans into a hissy fit for whatever reason, and they'll always find an audience somewhere to fuel their rage and their quest for censorship. |
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AO968 said: Yup, you'redefinitely right. Haters will always be there, no matter where you are, or what the setting is.Milk_is_Special said: Yup, I still think it is really messed up that they have to censor everything on the fucking internet. Because people are easily offended and will do whatever they can to have anything they find 'weird', disgusting' or whatever banned from sight. And as you see on MAL, if you support lolicon material, you're seen as a pedophile in the eyes of the 'normal' people (who actually are far from that, but either don't know it yet or hide it to look good). But, as (I) said before, it's not just lolicon that people have a problem with. For example, in the US, even an exposed nipple of a woman's breast can throw many (usually bible-thumping) Americans into a hissy fit for whatever reason, and they'll always find an audience somewhere to fuel their rage and their quest for censorship. |
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zdude18 said: In an effort to fuck over all the lolicons out there, feminists are now trying to ban lolis from anime/manga. Your title, statement and source are all horribly misleading. The website in question has a complete bias and isn't a respectable tabloid or reviewer. Secondly, the concept of lolis is controversial because while studies show the majority of males prefer a 13-year old girls face as the optimal age, it is illegal to have sex with that age group because of the law. This lolicon-addiction is a result of underlying ephebophelia tendencies given light via a gray-area legal medium. What isn't in question, however, is how these personality-lacking sexualized child-like characters objectify women and to a greater degree preteens. When fanservice is utilizing lolis to cater to their male demographic, you cannot disguise the blatant quasi-porn attempts to appeal to the ephebophelic sexual desire. I don't think it should be illegal. I also don't think it is hate speech. I do think, however, that it is damaging to women to portray them as stereotypes and damaging to preteen girls to oversexualize them. |
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| To continue with my monologue here, the hatred for feminists is fascinating to me. The term merely implies women who want equal rights to men. To associate the term with anything else is the equivalent to calling all the beef in a supermarket a "Big Mac". If you disagree with someone, or a lot of someone's, who proclaims themselves feminists, this does not mean feminism is wrong. It means you hate those opinions. Combining them all into a group to insult them is lazy stereotyping that serves nobody, as it makes your criticisms look weak and makes you all look like people who hate women. If instead you said "social justice warriors", this term has a far more precise group that could apply directly to your criticisms. To say "Feminazis strike again" from this poorly written trash article is like watching an episode of Cops and saying all Hispanics rob liquor stores. |
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rederoin said: And likewise, many people outside of feminists would actually support the banning of loli/shotacon content.Lots of people outside of sankaku are against censorship(banning loli/shotacon). Censorship and sexualised depiction of children (fictional or nah) in media are a spiky issue, but regardless of Sankaku's bias towards one or the other side of the argument, using of the actions of a bunch tumblr activists that people can easily rally against is pretty fucking dishonest of them. Just see most of the posts in this thread: "feminists are fckin ridiculous", when what should be discussed is loli/shotacon and what to do with it. |
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GangstaPriest said: What should we do with lolis? That's easy - Just see most of the posts in this thread: "feminists are fckin ridiculous", when what should be discussed is loli/shotacon and what to do with it. Mod Edit: Spoiler big pictures |
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