Higashi no Eden Episode 7 Discussion

jacobpaige said:
if she bought the hotel after Akira did, then doesn't that mean she bought it from him? wouldn't he have to agree to that? and even if she managed to get around that, wouldn't the 1.6 billion go to him? or if this was somehow used to overwrite his purchase, then wouldn't he get his 1.5 billion back?

Tensaiga said:
The whole ending phone look makes no sense to me.

For one...It says that it is Selecao 11's list. But the money amounts match up to 9's. But it has the purchases of the accident on the highway and the purchase of the special effects. But it also has the purchase of the hotel. What the heck?

Also, according to the timestamps, apparently 5 hours took place between the accident on the highway and the special effects purchases. 5 freaking hours. I don't see how that could possibly work under any circumstances.

I am just really hoping this doesn't end up like paranoia agent's terrible ending.

DeathfireD said:

One thing I found interesting in this episode is how Juiz is not critiquing everything he does and hinting at things he shouldn't be doing. "Even if you abuse state power, I hope you continue to become an honest messiah", "I hope you become more economical"..etc. She wasn't doing this before and it doesn't seem like she does it with any of the past members. I wonder if it means anything.

foezz said:
Room 1109- Selecao 11 and Selecao 9. hmmmm

cerulean18 said:
I find the last part a little hard to believe.. Even if it's a illusion show that Kuroha ordered, it's seemed too true to be an illusion.. Lol.

I like the part where Kuroha and Takizawa were checking up and stopping each other (arrest by traffic police, traffic accident, buy the whole hotel over and out-buying each other) with the help of Juiz. If Juiz were to know that 2 Selecao members were involved, I bet she'll be sitting there and enjoying the drama!

I guess most of us are not surprised that Takizawa is involved in the missile attacks, oh well. I wonder if No. 9 (Takizawa) is the Supporter, then will some other Selecao take over his role as a Supporter after he lost his memories (since he had no idea on that in the first place)? Is No. 1 the Supporter? I'm rather interested to see how No. 1 is involved in contributing/resulting No. 9 to go for a brainwashing program.

I thought Takizawa's Johnny was in danger when he fainted in Kuroha's arms and after Kuroha heard Saki's voice over his phone.. I guess not. Seriously, Takizawa is really good with women, isn't he? lol

So where is Ohsugi? An identity mix-up in the first place or did Kuroha really switched him for another guy?

DeathfireD said:
She used his phone to buy the illusion thing. The total amount displayed for the illusion material (6,783,719,800) matches the total amount he has left over (found at the top of the phone). I suppose she used some of his money as a trade for him getting his friend back.

Alexstratz said:
Speaking of which, I don't understand why Akira didn't just give Juiz the order to extract Ohsugi from the hotel to a safe place. If he wanted to meet Shiratori, he could've done that easily afterwards.

ArcticMech said:
Looked back at the end of episode 5. I don't think she ever brought back Ohsugi. There was another man looking at Ohsugi after he had stumbled out of the restaurant and dropped his bag. Kuroha was further away when we see her walking in their direction when the episode ended. The other guy could've easily taken the bag, the phone and whatever else Ohsugi had with him at the time. This would also explain why he didn't call his friends. Btw, Ohsugi was wearing a red tie that evening. The guy Kuroha had has a greyish tie on.

NoyaChan said:
Holy shit, another amazing episode. Now I wonder where IS Oshugi, and how is Akira related to careless monday? Also, what is going to happen with Saki...?

saka said:

The amount she pays for the illusion film is only 28,000,000... to rent it. The other number is the total remaining money on No. 11's phone. ;)

DeathfireD said:


but his total went down after she bought it. Look at the time stamps.

Brian333 said:


I don't know. There is a lot of fascinating theories regarding who Akira is but I can't buy the supporter theories right now. What happened in episode 1 just really throws things into a blender. In the first episode, Selecao I was watching Akira from afar and commenting on his uniqueness while lamenting his end (and at the time, I thought he was the supporter). Shortly after, Akira picked up the phone and his memories were wiped out. I see the supporter as someone behind the scenes... an observer who watches and judges from afar, not someone who's a go-getter game player.

I didn't really look at it too carefully to begin with (since we had yet to have any clue what the hell was going on) but the more I re-watch that sequence, the more it seems like Akira was aiming to kill Saki and someone stopped him by wiping out his memories. It doesn't seem like he intentionally deleted his own memories even though the charge was on his phone. He seemed surprised when he heard the coding through the phone. Maybe he was the supporter and Mr. Outside deemed his actions inappropriate for the role and wiped his memories? Maybe the supporter wiped his memories? Who knows.

It's too hard to read.

Lets say he was going to kill Saki and that he at first wanted to kill those 20k NEETs with careless monday, then it probably was because he knew Saki was essential to the eden program. Thus he knew abiut the Eden program and saw it as a problem to his plans to "purge" Japan from the NEET plague. or something like that perhaps? Saki is an ordinary person except for the fact that she is a core member in the Eden program, only reason to personally kill her would be cus of the program.

Anyway, anything could be true atm. I hope they get to explaining everything soon, cus there is much explanation to be done..

M_A said:
All the "johnny" dialogue towards the end, was funny, though i am not sure if that was intentional.

kanauru said:
Also I believe the rapist wanted to rape Saki , hence the rapist took Ohsugi's stuff so he can find Saki.

aero said:
Holy shit that was awesome.

reb3llist said:

There'll probably be a Eden of the East II, almost definitely. It can never be wrapped up in just 4 episodes or else it'll have pacing so fast that there won't be any character development. 7 other Selecao numbers to introduce in just 4 episodes? Hell we even had number IX for 2 episodes so it'll be very unlikely for the show to introduce 1.75 Selecaos each episode to wrap it up. All in all, if next season will have like 11 episodes again, I think there will be 3 seasons of Higashi no Eden.

ntHai said:
But lol, how can they pull off such stunts?