soredemoii said: I get what he's trying to say, but I don't like his (and most of the other people who are complaining about censorship in this thread) reason for watching this. It's literally just "Oh, this has gore so it'll be good. I'm a closet psychopath so this should be right up my alley". It really is a shame that these days pieces of shit can be called good because they are violent.Minagatachi said: Horrible analogy. Porn turns me on because it has sex, zombie movies don't turn me on because of violence (and in all honesty, if you are getting turned on over gore then you have some problems). WOW just WOW hahah superb use of Straw man argument, j.f. google it and gtfo I guess he's right in one thing; zombie movies wouldn't be popular if they weren't violent. Maybe it's because I'm not a gore junkie, but most zombie movies are so fucking bland and boring that they make me want to shoot myself. Yet they are popular, because "herp derp they are hella violent". |
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Minagatachi said: MapoTofu said: Horrible analogy. Porn turns me on because it has sex, zombie movies don't turn me on because of violence (and in all honesty, if you are getting turned on over gore then you have some problems)."Does the censoring ruin it for you?" Yes? Because censoring gore in a show whose main focus is ghouls is just wrong. For the people that are saying gore is unneeded then I don't get why you are watching this show in the first place. It is like watching a zombie movie not for the violence/gore or watching porn not for the sex. <--Wtf I am going to interject here because I found this comment fucking hilarious. First off, your claim regards the misunderstanding of the original analogy. So, you completely miss just that, it is an analogy. The actual consequences of said analogy with porn do not translate, e.g. masturbation, (which seems to be your point in surreptitiously claiming the problem of gore, as you claim "if you are getting turned on over gore then you have some problems") but the content follows the same inductive reasoning. To further concertize my point, I would equate listening to certain instruments as aesthetically appealing in terms of audio. Thus, let us take a hypothetical chillstep song whereby the sole purpose and express intent of said song is to deliver an instrumental chill-beat. Nevertheless, someone decides to add shit vocals on-top of said hypothetical song (I actually have had this happen to me before). Thus, detracting from the original content and major selling point of said entertainment piece. Anyways, regarding the gore/censoring topic, I find it annoying, but not enough to stop watching the show, granted I was looking forward to a more violent-gore anime, considering I like diversity. Furthermore, most anime seasons are heavily slanted in the ecchi/slice-of-life/romance direction, which I do enjoy every now and again but not every fucking season. |
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OppaiLord said: I'd watch a censored zombie movie if it was genuinely good, violence does not make me or stop me from watching a movie. Actually maybe a censored zombie movie would be better, because they'd have to start actually thinking of other ways to attract viewers other than just filling it with gore.Minagatachi said: I get what he's trying to say, but I don't like his (and most of the other people who are complaining about censorship in this thread) reason for watching this. It's literally just "Oh, this has gore so it'll be good. I'm a closet psychopath so this should be right up my alley". It really is a shame that these days pieces of shit can be called good because they are violent. Where does he say that you have to get turned on by gore? The only thing that sticks to your head is porn. Nobody said anything about if it has gore its good. Go watch a zombie movie and put 90% of screen black, censor everything in it and tell me what the hell you enjoy from it. Another thing.. just because some people enjoy this kind of shows, they are "closet psychopaths"? Dude.. just gtfo and go back to your fap cave. |
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| im a fan of gore, and the censoring its freaking annoying. idk if gore turns me on or what but i definitely love it and i believe to those who actually favor gore genre think that the censorship is very annoying. and IMHO its kinda ruin the anime but maybe not that much. im still enjoying watching it (VERY), due to watching my fav characters being animated and stuff. im fully understand the tv network is censoring it for its to be aired on tv but there's the rating so idk??? but i guess i'll have to wait for the blu-ray.......... different people have different tastes so is it that bad to like gore??? |
| In episode 2 my screen almost went full black with the censored stuff, it really annoys me but it doesn't 'ruin' the show for me. |
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| Aww come o. On the second episode it pisses me off. Really?! I wanted to see it the colors were unessesary |
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cabacc2 said: ok, I decided to put it on hold. Does anybody know when we can expect the DVD-release? September 26 for the first DVD volume in Japan according to CDJapan http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/product/TCED-2340 edit: I think that's only the first 3 episodes |
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cabacc2 said: I think it'll have all 12 episodes though. You dont pay 78$ for 3 episodes. Yes, you do. It says in the description right on the site. "First DVD release of "Tokyo Ghoul" anime series based on popular comic. Features episodes 1 through 3 with original booklet. Disc is picture labeled. " |
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| It's a horror, psychological story and gore is there for a reason... to build up heavy, intense atmosphere and suck you into it. Censorship is kind of denying and weakening it and making some scenes less impactful. |
| Between the adult world and the world of kids, there, Holyland exists. |
| Yeah the censoring is kinda annoying but not to the point that I'll start hating the show. |
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| Well, I'm not exactly into gore but I hate it when I don't really know what's going on (like in those specific scenes) so I decided I'll wait for an uncensored version and watch it all then. As far as I know Tokyo Ghoul is known for its extreme gore so I want to have the "whole experience", even though it'll probably disgust me... (xD) |
| People are really going into this show with the wrong expectations.. I will never get the appeal of gore. |
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| I think that it's unnecessary, especially for an anime that's rated R-17+. Does it ruin it for me? No, not exactly. Does it make the experience a little bit more dry? Definitely, this anime is centered around ghouls that EAT FLESH after all. |
| The censoring is retarded. Might as well just release straight to BD/DVD. I can only imagine it getting worse once the story/fights pick up. |
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Dayuum said: phs_togusa said: Is it suppose to?Does it really matter? This show can't pull off horror for shit. I think so...the manga is listed in the horror genre. |
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SolvyTwerk4Jesus said: Lol. If not seeing the gore ruins the show for you, then the show either sucks, or you are a child. Or both. solvite confirmed for gently caressing himself while watching black screen for 24mins >_> |
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tsudecimo said: People are really going into this show with the wrong expectations.. I will never get the appeal of gore. At this point it's not so much about the appeal of gore than it is about taking away an important part of what constitutes Kaneki's inner conflict. It's easy to watch the scene when you have a previous knowledge of the manga and not be bothered by the censoring, but the fact remains that for an anime-only audience the visible body horror does play a fairly huge role in helping them take the full measure of what our main character's going through. There's a difference between knowing he's horrified about eating human flesh and actually seeing it. In this regard the obtrusive censoring (the blatant blackening in particular) does weaken the impact of some scenes. |
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Sapewloth said: tsudecimo said: People are really going into this show with the wrong expectations.. I will never get the appeal of gore. At this point it's not so much about the appeal of gore than it is about taking away an important part of what constitutes Kaneki's inner conflict. It's easy to watch the scene when you have a previous knowledge of the manga and not be bothered by the censoring, but the fact remains that for a anime-only audience the visible body horror does play a fairly huge role in helping them take the full measure of what our main character's going through. There's a difference between knowing he's horrified about eating human flesh and actually seeing it. In this regard the obtrusive censoring (the blatant blackening in particular) does weaken the impact of some scenes. Sapewloth gets it |
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Sapewloth said: tsudecimo said: People are really going into this show with the wrong expectations.. I will never get the appeal of gore. At this point it's not so much about the appeal of gore than it is about taking away an important part of what constitutes Kaneki's inner conflict. It's easy to watch the scene when you have a previous knowledge of the manga and not be bothered by the censoring, but the fact remains that for an anime-only audience the visible body horror does play a fairly huge role in helping them take the full measure of what our main character's going through. There's a difference between knowing he's horrified about eating human flesh and actually seeing it. In this regard the obtrusive censoring (the blatant blackening in particular) does weaken the impact of some scenes. I agree 100%. While I didn't really go in with high expectations anyway, I thought the show was just going to be a silly gorefest action series, which... It kind of is so far. Though the conflict the main character has with becoming a ghoul is actually done pretty well so I got a bit more than I expected. Even if the gore didn't matter to the narrative though and didn't add much. The censoring they seem to be using are often rather obnoxious with either blacking out most of the screen or completely inverting all colors. It completely ruins any emotional investment you had in those moments and takes you out of the show. Still gonna watch because I think the best moments of the show are Kaneki's struggles anyway, and luckily those are not subjected to too much censorship. |
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| It doesn't ruin it for me, although it would be more fun to watch if they did show us the gore. But it isn't essential for me when I watch this kind of anime. Still watching it. |
| I really didn't see the point of censoring that fight scene with the obnoxious inverted colors. It was just blood, which they have already repeatedly shown... or was it because of the multiple stabbings? Though it's not like it makes it any less gruesome. Oh well, at least it's going to be a treat to re-watch the show uncensored. |
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| I honestly didn't even notice the gore was censored until I saw all the outcry over here. But now that I've seen it, it's unavoidable. Not drop the show level, but just strange. From a global standpoint, gore is much more heavily censored outside of America. So it's not really that surprising to see a television release get toned down. It would be like showing full nudity in an American terms. |
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Jerkhov said: I honestly didn't even notice the gore was censored until I saw all the outcry over here. But now that I've seen it, it's unavoidable. Not drop the show level, but just strange. From a global standpoint, gore is much more heavily censored outside of America. So it's not really that surprising to see a television release get toned down. It would be like showing full nudity in an American terms. Wait... how in the world did you not noticed the inverted colors during the fight scene in episode 2? |
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| If I can understand what's going on then no, not a fan of gore anyways. |
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| A bit... its like censoring to the extreme. I really don't want to wait for an uncensored version to come out but I'm really thinking about it. When and entire screen is black except for a sliver and I don't know what the hell is going on its extremely distracting and I think its a bit too much. Not sure who they're trying to protect, the show is advertised as a series about ghouls who have to eat people to survive. If you go into it expecting rainbows and unicorns then that's your own fault. I understand that its aired on national TV in Japan but they get away with much worse in ecchi shows, etc. so I think a little bit of blood and guts wouldn't hurt. I think they should at least tone it down to a bit of pixelization like when Kaneki walks in on Hinami eating. |
| No not really, because there really isn't that much censoring at all. I didn't even notice it at first. The censoring is basically a shadow, so there isn't any visible editing to the video. |
| Yeah, definitely going to wait for the uncensored version. The censoring in this is off the charts. I'm not a fan of gore per se but when I sit down and watch something that has ghouls in it I'm expecting to at least get to see what's going on. Some scenes just don't make any sense and are just clusterfucks of obstructing black shadows. Sorry but no. @Squatta Amen. |
| I hate any kind of censorship, i'll wait for the blu-rays as i'm waiting for the uncensored verison of Stardust Crusaders. |
| Yea. It ruins the story in that it threw me off. I mean.... there was no reason to cover over 3/4 of the screen. Just pop a smiley over the rolling head or whatever it was. |
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Red_Keys said: I'm not watching this for mindless gore fanservice. The less I see of it the better. This. The anime has a lot more to offer. Actually i find the excessive gore too disturbing. |
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| first time they inverted colours i thought "oh, they are gonna censor in an "artsy" way, im okay with that" then the black...then when the little girl is eating....the eye the mask maker seems to be licking but we cant see. if they inverted colours or censored in a creative way i would have said BRAVO !! but now its just censorship and its kinda sad. BUT, the anime is so beautifull, i can't stop myself from watching it week after week. Anyways, it's such a beautifull anime that i will watch this a bunch of times. THE COLOURS are amazing. |
| I think it's so-so. It's abit weird though, I get curious. I'm not a fan of gore but hmm I don't know. Maybe it's better left unseen. It doesn't bother me to extent of dropping it. I just hope there won't be blackness for most of the episodes. No fun. |
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