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Apr 21, 2014 2:43 AM
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There was only one coffin on the boat unless Dio brought another one alone with his name on it.
Apr 21, 2014 3:24 AM
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Because Araki.
Apr 21, 2014 5:01 AM
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There apparently was a second coffin we did´nt know about stored somewhere else on the ship. Dio probably wanted to make absolutely sure that he survives. That´s the only explanation that would make sense I think.
Apr 21, 2014 5:02 AM
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Because he's Dio.
an egomaniac and a fool

Apr 21, 2014 5:45 AM
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Nyl685 said:
There apparently was a second coffin we did´nt know about stored somewhere else on the ship. Dio probably wanted to make absolutely sure that he survives. That´s the only explanation that would make sense I think.


Ya I guess the Chinese guy could've brought his own coffin or something :v
Apr 21, 2014 5:47 AM
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The coffin had two compartments. They mentioned it in the anime. Figure everything else yourself.

Because he is a legend.
Apr 21, 2014 6:21 AM
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The coffin had two compartments. They mentioned it in the anime. Figure everything else yourself.

Because he is a legend.
Well if it was the coffin Erina used, why was it found under the sea next to the shipwreck? Didn´t Erina escape with it/didn´t the sea current transport the coffin away from the ships position?

By the way, the coffin Erina was in didn´t have "DIO" engraved on it.
Nyl685Apr 21, 2014 6:26 AM
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Nyl685 said:
Pralando said:
The coffin had two compartments. They mentioned it in the anime. Figure everything else yourself.

Because he is a legend.
Well if it was the coffin Erina used, why was it found under the sea next to the shipwreck? Didn´t Erina escape with it/didn´t the sea current transport the coffin away from the ships position?

By the way, the coffin Erina was in didn´t have "DIO" engraved on it.

Because originally it was just a plot hole since Araki doesn't really think ahead much on what he wants to do with his story/characters. They tried fixing it in the recent anime with the 2 compartment thing which still leaves a lot of questions to be answered. The best thing you can do is just try to figure out how it all went down yourself. Actually scratch that, the best thing you can do is stop questioning Araki's plot-holes and sit down for the ride, since you are going to encounter things like these pretty frequently.
Apr 21, 2014 6:48 AM
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I don´t think Arakis problem is that he can´t plan ahead, I think his problem is that he doesn´t really look back at how he left things off and makes sloppy connections to past events because of it.^^

But anyway, I´ve already read all Parts of Jojo already, so questioning Arakis desicions is that´s left for me while waiting for the new Jojolion Chapter. :L
Apr 21, 2014 6:52 AM

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Nyl685 said:
I don´t think Arakis problem is that he can´t plan ahead, I think his problem is that he doesn´t really look back at how he left things off and makes sloppy connections to past events because of it.^^

But anyway, I´ve already read all Parts of Jojo already, so questioning Arakis desicions is that´s left for me while waiting for the new Jojolion Chapter. :L

No man, he can't decide what he wants to do.

A good example is in part 6 when he initially introduced one of the characters in the protagonist's group as female but then decided to change his sex to male.
Apr 21, 2014 6:57 AM

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Pralando said:
Nyl685 said:
I don´t think Arakis problem is that he can´t plan ahead, I think his problem is that he doesn´t really look back at how he left things off and makes sloppy connections to past events because of it.^^

But anyway, I´ve already read all Parts of Jojo already, so questioning Arakis desicions is that´s left for me while waiting for the new Jojolion Chapter. :L

No man, he can't decide what he wants to do.

A good example is in part 6 when he initially introduced one of the characters in the protagonist's group as female but then decided to change his sex to male.
or how in part 1 they introduced those 3 guys at the end only for 1 of them to get decapitated immediately 1 to become a villain for one night out of no where and 1 to never appear again

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Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit,

tokiyashiro said:

Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

Apr 21, 2014 7:00 AM
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@Pralando

hm yeah, you´re right about that one.
Jojo is one of my most favorite series, but I really was never able to get over how Araki often changes his mind even after it´s too late, so you have to bear with me, sorry. ^^

@Jizzyhitler

The last guy obviously died of old age, but yeah,the early parts definitely weren´t charming because they were written superiorly, but because of their oldschool ridiculousness.
Nyl685Apr 21, 2014 7:08 AM
Apr 21, 2014 7:04 AM

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Nothing can get on this series' level, though.
Apr 21, 2014 7:12 AM

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Pralando said:
Nyl685 said:
Pralando said:
The coffin had two compartments. They mentioned it in the anime. Figure everything else yourself.

Because he is a legend.
Well if it was the coffin Erina used, why was it found under the sea next to the shipwreck? Didn´t Erina escape with it/didn´t the sea current transport the coffin away from the ships position?

By the way, the coffin Erina was in didn´t have "DIO" engraved on it.

Because originally it was just a plot hole since Araki doesn't really think ahead much on what he wants to do with his story/characters. They tried fixing it in the recent anime with the 2 compartment thing which still leaves a lot of questions to be answered. The best thing you can do is just try to figure out how it all went down yourself. Actually scratch that, the best thing you can do is stop questioning Araki's plot-holes and sit down for the ride, since you are going to encounter things like these pretty frequently.


Super disappointing to hear :(
Apr 21, 2014 7:12 AM
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Pralando said:
Nothing can get on this series' level, though.
I really like how the anime tries to dish out those mistakes though. When I think of Jojo I think of a gem with holes in it, but the anime has the potential to fill up those holes and make Jojo truly perfect, how it deserves to be.
Apr 21, 2014 7:15 AM

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Haytin said:
Pralando said:
Nyl685 said:
Pralando said:
The coffin had two compartments. They mentioned it in the anime. Figure everything else yourself.

Because he is a legend.
Well if it was the coffin Erina used, why was it found under the sea next to the shipwreck? Didn´t Erina escape with it/didn´t the sea current transport the coffin away from the ships position?

By the way, the coffin Erina was in didn´t have "DIO" engraved on it.

Because originally it was just a plot hole since Araki doesn't really think ahead much on what he wants to do with his story/characters. They tried fixing it in the recent anime with the 2 compartment thing which still leaves a lot of questions to be answered. The best thing you can do is just try to figure out how it all went down yourself. Actually scratch that, the best thing you can do is stop questioning Araki's plot-holes and sit down for the ride, since you are going to encounter things like these pretty frequently.


Super disappointing to hear :(

You should just think about it like this:

"Dio means god in italian, he is a legend. Nothing will ever kill Dio-sama, and if by meager chance something does, I will become a gay hispanic priest and destroy the universe."
Apr 21, 2014 9:25 AM

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Haytin said:
Pralando said:
Nyl685 said:
Pralando said:
The coffin had two compartments. They mentioned it in the anime. Figure everything else yourself.

Because he is a legend.
Well if it was the coffin Erina used, why was it found under the sea next to the shipwreck? Didn´t Erina escape with it/didn´t the sea current transport the coffin away from the ships position?

By the way, the coffin Erina was in didn´t have "DIO" engraved on it.

Because originally it was just a plot hole since Araki doesn't really think ahead much on what he wants to do with his story/characters. They tried fixing it in the recent anime with the 2 compartment thing which still leaves a lot of questions to be answered. The best thing you can do is just try to figure out how it all went down yourself. Actually scratch that, the best thing you can do is stop questioning Araki's plot-holes and sit down for the ride, since you are going to encounter things like these pretty frequently.


Super disappointing to hear :(


I wouldn't say it's TOO rampant, Araki has the occasional plot convenience transpire because he's got too much going on I guess and gets forgetful. Basically Dio's survival for Part 3 was a bit of a retcon where he suddenly added that there was another coffin on the boat when there originally wasn't in Part 1. I forget if they patched that up in the Part 1 anime, but maybe they kept it for suspense as well. In any case, don't let that throw you off, sometimes they are only little bumps in the road for incredible stories, like Part IV is absolutely amazing, and is only held back by maybe 1 or 2 small arcs that are a bit weak, and somethings with the mythos that are kinda odd.
Apr 21, 2014 12:13 PM

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This is what makes the most sense to me:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/8179377/Jojo/the%20answer.png

This way, only one coffin was necessary. It also explains why there's a need for it to have 2 sections. In the end of part 1, you see Erina sitting in the coushiney top part of the coffin. In the beginning of Part 3, the coffin's divider is removed, implying that Dio came from the bottom half. This is just a theory, though. In situations like this, it's best to say "Because Araki" and move on.
Apr 21, 2014 5:29 PM

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Fadeout4 said:
This is what makes the most sense to me:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/8179377/Jojo/the%20answer.png

This way, only one coffin was necessary. It also explains why there's a need for it to have 2 sections. In the end of part 1, you see Erina sitting in the coushiney top part of the coffin. In the beginning of Part 3, the coffin's divider is removed, implying that Dio came from the bottom half. This is just a theory, though. In situations like this, it's best to say "Because Araki" and move on.


But we can see Erina opening the coffin lid in the ending, so she was with the whole coffin. And I don't think it makes much sense for them to have recovered the two sections, anyway. The theory of two coffins (one for Wang Chan) is also bullshit when "DIO" was written in the coffin.

Unfortunately, the answer is a plot-hole. Dio had to get back somehow, even if that meant a contradiction.
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OverkilledRed said:
Fadeout4 said:
This is what makes the most sense to me:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/8179377/Jojo/the%20answer.png

This way, only one coffin was necessary. It also explains why there's a need for it to have 2 sections. In the end of part 1, you see Erina sitting in the coushiney top part of the coffin. In the beginning of Part 3, the coffin's divider is removed, implying that Dio came from the bottom half. This is just a theory, though. In situations like this, it's best to say "Because Araki" and move on.


But we can see Erina opening the coffin lid in the ending, so she was with the whole coffin. And I don't think it makes much sense for them to have recovered the two parts, anyway. The theory of two coffins (one for Wang Chan) is also bullshit when "DIO" was written in the coffin.

Unfortunately, the answer is a plot-hole. Dio had to get back somehow, even if that meant a contradiction.
He made it back because Dio is a legend.
an egomaniac and a fool

Apr 21, 2014 6:07 PM

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He can make Steamrollers appear out of nowhere, a coffin is small fry.
Apr 21, 2014 7:29 PM

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OverkilledRed said:
Fadeout4 said:
This is what makes the most sense to me:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/8179377/Jojo/the%20answer.png

This way, only one coffin was necessary. It also explains why there's a need for it to have 2 sections. In the end of part 1, you see Erina sitting in the coushiney top part of the coffin. In the beginning of Part 3, the coffin's divider is removed, implying that Dio came from the bottom half. This is just a theory, though. In situations like this, it's best to say "Because Araki" and move on.


But we can see Erina opening the coffin lid in the ending, so she was with the whole coffin. And I don't think it makes much sense for them to have recovered the two sections, anyway. The theory of two coffins (one for Wang Chan) is also bullshit when "DIO" was written in the coffin.

Unfortunately, the answer is a plot-hole. Dio had to get back somehow, even if that meant a contradiction.


Hmm, yeah I suppose you're right. But then, plothole or not, what's the deal with the coffin having 2 components in the beginning scene of Part 3?
Apr 21, 2014 7:49 PM

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I think is just to show how weird was the structure of the coffin, as was a special coffin made for Dio to sleep for years. And I have seen people saying it was only shown in the anime, as a way to fix things, but it was in the manga too:

http://i.imgur.com/Wr8OmKN.png

Apr 22, 2014 12:12 AM

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Let me echo that you really shouldn't question Jojo, just enjoy the ride.
"Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job."

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Apr 22, 2014 3:54 AM

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Let me echo that you really shouldn't question Jojo, just enjoy the ride.


Nah I'll question it. Not like this anime is Space Dandy.
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Haytin said:
insan3Spectre said:
Let me echo that you really shouldn't question Jojo, just enjoy the ride.


Nah I'll question it. Not like this anime is Space Dandy.


If you question every little detail, you won't get the excitement out of this series.
Apr 23, 2014 1:28 PM

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The Better Question Would Be:
What happens when someone who possess a stand has sex?
As you know, If the stand is damaged, it's user also gets damaged. That means that both stand and it's user are connected not as just seperate beings.
For example, Just for example what would happen if Noriyaki decides to get it on with Jotaro's mom. Would his stand also feel ogasm ?
Maybe it would do something Emerald Splash XXX.


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The Better Question Would Be:
What happens when someone who possess a stand has sex?
As you know, If the stand is damaged, it's user also gets damaged. That means that both stand and it's user are connected not as just seperate beings.
For example, Just for example what would happen if Noriyaki decides to get it on with Jotaro's mom. Would his stand also feel ogasm ?
Maybe it would do something Emerald Splash XXX.


Apr 26, 2014 7:46 AM

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He wasn't planning on bringing Dio back when he wrote Part 1.
For a series this long it's just normal to have some retcons. Just enjoy the awesomeness.
May 3, 2014 1:30 PM

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Oh wow I didn't even know this was a plothole. I always assumed Dio had been stuck on the sea floor with the ship until some salvager picked up the wreck unintentionally helping Dio.
May 3, 2014 1:43 PM

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Haytin said:


Super disappointing to hear :(


It really isn't disappointing at all. True Jojo fans love this kind of stuff, they love a story they don't have to take so seriously. I've just started part 3 and it's amazing.

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