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Apr 3, 2009 2:45 PM

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Poop. I enjoyed LOGH's short lived reign.
Apr 3, 2009 2:55 PM

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Ya, having a large user base helps it against hate trolls so AS can probably take #1 at this rate... But i don't know if the TTGL fans will let that happen, they don't know when to quite after all xP

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Poop. I enjoyed LOGH's short lived reign.

Same here T.T

I'm sad that LotGH was manipulated to #1 then manipulated back down. It makes me think it will never get the score it deserves.

Wishy said:
Not first any more, as I said.

First off, most of the people here said it will most likely happen.

second, if you said it wouldn't be because of people trolling it with low scores then you were right. If not, then you were wrong.

And third, It could take back #1 any day now because of how close the scores are but afterwords the same people will troll it with a bad score to lower it and nothing will be done about it. That's the reason it wont keep first.

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KnK 5 is back at the top. What happens next will determine the future of MAL! :O
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Apr 3, 2009 8:00 PM

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Lol KnK is back on top (albeit barely).
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Did everybody forget about this?

http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=73355

Nothing is going to stay the same once they take out all those cheaters.
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Did everybody forget about this?

http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=73355

Nothing is going to stay the same once they take out all those cheaters.
I can't believe how long its taking to get rid of those accounts. I guess Xinil just can't be bothered with them cause new ones will no doubt be made.
Apr 3, 2009 10:36 PM

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LOGH is the only anime ever that can be ranked in the top 5 and still be considered underrated.
Apr 4, 2009 6:01 AM

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I was looking at some of the new 1-3s for KnK 5 (a few are popping up as i expected to try to bring it back down again) and i don't understand why MAL gives the ability to make ones anime list private? it's really perplexing. The only use for it that i see is to conceal ratings of accounts made to change the top list, and that is a negative use. i honestly can't think of any reason that a user would make there list private... I mean, isnt the use of ratings to show others what you thought of certain series and basically recommend what you thought was good and what wasn't? Isn't the fact that it effects the top list just an after effect of the original purpose and not something that people should be using there ratings for? It may be just me but i find this very odd and counterproductive for trying to keep the top list legit.

5layer said:
Drunk_Samurai said:
Did everybody forget about this?

http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=73355

Nothing is going to stay the same once they take out all those cheaters.
I can't believe how long its taking to get rid of those accounts. I guess Xinil just can't be bothered with them cause new ones will no doubt be made.

I don't think its something that he just does. There might be some processes he might need to go though in order to delete accounts like messaging the user and waiting for a reply or carefully thinking if a deletion is required. If that is the case then both of those would take time. Or it could just be that he doesn't feel it's important enough at this time since its not a drastic change so he has decided to do nothing for now.

@Drunk_Samurai
I don't mean this to be insulting, but TTGL isn't being hit the most by the recent trolls. TTGL, KnK 5, and LotGH are all being hit hard. If we remove all the "cheaters" then the top list would be very different and i don't think any of us would be able to accurately guess what the order would be. If anything I'd say that LotGH would end up at #1. Or have you not noticed that KnK 5s percent of 1s is 1.0 and LotGH is 2.7 while TTGLs is 0.6. It is true that TTGL has more members but what counts here is the percent, and having more members can be a disadvantage for TTGL.
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TTGL is probably hit with trolls just as much, if not more, than the other anime. It's just that it has such a high member count that it isn't particularly affected by trolls like that. Removing all trolls, LotGH would definitely be number 1 on MAL.
Apr 4, 2009 6:21 AM

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LOGH is hit the hardest, since it's got the smallest amount of user entries. As such, trolls amount for more effect. One person trollin' LOGH has double the effect of one person trollin' KnK, and ten times the effect of one person trollin' TTGL. Basic maths. Of course, the same is true for someone giving out high scores, but I wouldn't ever call anyone giving LOGH a 10 a troll, because 10 is the only objectively possible assessment in the first place, regardless if it's only so that they can snub KnK off the top place. Or however trolls think.

M_A said:
LOGH is the only anime ever that can be ranked in the top 5 and still be considered underrated.
This is true.
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5layer said:
TTGL is probably hit with trolls just as much, if not more, than the other anime. It's just that it has such a high member count that it isn't particularly affected by trolls like that. Removing all trolls, LotGH would definitely be number 1 on MAL.


I would say it would be LotGH just based on percent.
Percentage of 10 votes:
TTGL: 44.1%
KnK 5: 44.8%
LotGH: 51.6%

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regardless if it's only so that they can snub KnK off the top place. Or however trolls think.

I think that's going a little to far.
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Now that I look at it, Rurouni Kenshin could quite easily take first place. It's anti-troll armor is pretty thick too. I wonder why nobody bothered mentioning it.
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5layer said:
TTGL is probably hit with trolls just as much, if not more, than the other anime. It's just that it has such a high member count that it isn't particularly affected by trolls like that. Removing all trolls, LotGH would definitely be number 1 on MAL.


Not really. Gurren would since it's hit by a lot of them.

Kaiserpingvin said:
but I wouldn't ever call anyone giving LOGH a 10 a troll, because 10 is the only objectively possible assessment in the first place


Somebody is bias.
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Drunk_Samurai said:
Kaiserpingvin said:
but I wouldn't ever call anyone giving LOGH a 10 a troll, because 10 is the only objectively possible assessment in the first place


Somebody is bias.
No, it's quite objective. And this from an aesthetic ultrarelativist.

And re: your comment on TTGL being number one if there'd be no trolls, no. l2maths.
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Kaiserpingvin said:
Drunk_Samurai said:
Kaiserpingvin said:
but I wouldn't ever call anyone giving LOGH a 10 a troll, because 10 is the only objectively possible assessment in the first place


Somebody is bias.
No, it's quite objective. And this from an aesthetic ultrarelativist.

And re: your comment on TTGL being number one if there'd be no trolls, no. l2maths.


You only say that because you yourself rated it a 10. So yes you are bias.
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Drunk_Samurai said:
You only say that because you yourself rated it a 10. So yes you are bias.
Twelve actually, MAL just did not allow it.

I think you missed the "ultrarelativist" part. I am obviously not serious with calling it objectively good; at best, it's just to stress how well it reaches my criteria for a good show (and I do have a hard time thinking of any set of criteria which LOGH would fail).

Though it does confound me how you'd think anyone would be able to a) assert that only one thing was objectively possible and then b) do something else.
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Drunk_Samurai said:
Kaiserpingvin said:
Drunk_Samurai said:
Kaiserpingvin said:
but I wouldn't ever call anyone giving LOGH a 10 a troll, because 10 is the only objectively possible assessment in the first place


Somebody is bias.
No, it's quite objective. And this from an aesthetic ultrarelativist.

And re: your comment on TTGL being number one if there'd be no trolls, no. l2maths.


You only say that because you yourself rated it a 10. So yes you are bias.

...

*GRAMMAR NAZI MODE*

The word is "biased".
Apr 4, 2009 11:12 PM

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OK! can some one, preferably a mod, explain to me the reason for allowing users to make their lists private? I still don't understand. the recent 1-3s for KnK 5 have made their list private and I don't think they are only trying to troll KnK down, It makes me believe they are all by the same person as well. And the most frustrating part is that they are starting to troll all the KnK movies as if they have some sort of personal grudge against the series. this is just ridiculous...

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Apr 5, 2009 3:59 AM

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Lol, has anyone else noticed that FMA 2 is going to take the number 1 spot on MAL as soon as it reaches 50 members???
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10.00 rating for FMA2, I'm guessing.

MAL's becoming a larger site, trolls are probably never going to stop coming.
Apr 5, 2009 8:59 AM

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TTGL appears to have moved back into first place.... which is where it belongs, let's not fool ourselves.
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hankgathers said:
TTGL appears to have moved back into first place.... which is where it belongs, let's not fool ourselves.


No, fuck you, retard.
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Watch me bump it some more....once my downloading is finished.

Yeah, I'm keen to see just how amazing this is.


It backfired. I bumped it down instead.
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Asako said:
hankgathers said:
TTGL appears to have moved back into first place.... which is where it belongs, let's not fool ourselves.


No, fuck you, retard.

lol
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Ketuekigami said:
Asako said:
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TTGL appears to have moved back into first place.... which is where it belongs, let's not fool ourselves.


No, fuck you, retard.

lol


I lol'd
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Viperslayer said:
Ketuekigami said:
Asako said:
hankgathers said:
TTGL appears to have moved back into first place.... which is where it belongs, let's not fool ourselves.


No, fuck you, retard.

lol


I lol'd


x3?
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meonlyme775 said:
Viperslayer said:
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TTGL appears to have moved back into first place.... which is where it belongs, let's not fool ourselves.


No, fuck you, retard.

lol


I lol'd


x3?


LaWlAwL
I can't tell who i'm laughing at more... Asako or hankgathers



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dxthegreat said:
meonlyme775 said:
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Asako said:
hankgathers said:
TTGL appears to have moved back into first place.... which is where it belongs, let's not fool ourselves.


No, fuck you, retard.

lol


I lol'd


x3?


LaWlAwL
I can't tell who i'm laughing at more... Asako or hankgathers

I had the same dilemma, that's why the only possible response i could give was "lol" xD
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dxthegreat said:
meonlyme775 said:
Viperslayer said:
Ketuekigami said:
Asako said:
hankgathers said:
TTGL appears to have moved back into first place.... which is where it belongs, let's not fool ourselves.


No, fuck you, retard.

lol


I lol'd


x3?


LaWlAwL
I can't tell who i'm laughing at more... Asako or hankgathers
LOL. Both comments are lol material, or even lmao. Together, they're like, unmatchable,... like TTGL? LOL.
Amaya-no-Hime said:
10.00 rating for FMA2, I'm guessing.

MAL's becoming a larger site, trolls are probably never going to stop coming.
No wai, bro.
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Tachii said:
Amaya-no-Hime said:
10.00 rating for FMA2, I'm guessing.

MAL's becoming a larger site, trolls are probably never going to stop coming.
No wai, bro.


It's 58th after one episode XD.
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Amaya-no-Hime said:
Tachii said:
Amaya-no-Hime said:
10.00 rating for FMA2, I'm guessing.

MAL's becoming a larger site, trolls are probably never going to stop coming.
No wai, bro.


It's 58th after one episode XD.


That's because people are retards and rate a show after only one episode. There are also morons who make reviews after one episode too.
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Drunk_Samurai said:
Amaya-no-Hime said:
Tachii said:
Amaya-no-Hime said:
10.00 rating for FMA2, I'm guessing.

MAL's becoming a larger site, trolls are probably never going to stop coming.
No wai, bro.


It's 58th after one episode XD.


That's because people are retards and rate a show after only one episode. There are also morons who make reviews after one episode too.
Except most of those reviews have been reported.
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5layer said:
Drunk_Samurai said:
Amaya-no-Hime said:
Tachii said:
Amaya-no-Hime said:
10.00 rating for FMA2, I'm guessing.

MAL's becoming a larger site, trolls are probably never going to stop coming.
No wai, bro.


It's 58th after one episode XD.


That's because people are retards and rate a show after only one episode. There are also morons who make reviews after one episode too.
Except most of those reviews have been reported.


I didn't know that was against the rules.
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Drunk_Samurai said:
5layer said:
Drunk_Samurai said:
Amaya-no-Hime said:
Tachii said:
Amaya-no-Hime said:
10.00 rating for FMA2, I'm guessing.

MAL's becoming a larger site, trolls are probably never going to stop coming.
No wai, bro.


It's 58th after one episode XD.


That's because people are retards and rate a show after only one episode. There are also morons who make reviews after one episode too.
Except most of those reviews have been reported.


I didn't know that was against the rules.
Me neither. I just tried reporting one to see how it works and it said it's already reported.
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Drunk_Samurai said:
Amaya-no-Hime said:
Tachii said:
Amaya-no-Hime said:
10.00 rating for FMA2, I'm guessing.

MAL's becoming a larger site, trolls are probably never going to stop coming.
No wai, bro.


It's 58th after one episode XD.


That's because people are retards and rate a show after only one episode. There are also morons who make reviews after one episode too.

You talk as if anime ratings are your life.
Also watch your mouth retard.
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Peralisc said:
Drunk_Samurai said:
Amaya-no-Hime said:
Tachii said:
Amaya-no-Hime said:
10.00 rating for FMA2, I'm guessing.

MAL's becoming a larger site, trolls are probably never going to stop coming.
No wai, bro.


It's 58th after one episode XD.


That's because people are retards and rate a show after only one episode. There are also morons who make reviews after one episode too.

You talk as if anime ratings are your life.
Also watch your mouth retard.

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Apr 6, 2009 7:23 PM

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Soooo logh is back to being underrated. =/

When will MAL learn.
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Peralisc said:
Drunk_Samurai said:
Amaya-no-Hime said:
Tachii said:
Amaya-no-Hime said:
10.00 rating for FMA2, I'm guessing.

MAL's becoming a larger site, trolls are probably never going to stop coming.
No wai, bro.


It's 58th after one episode XD.


That's because people are retards and rate a show after only one episode. There are also morons who make reviews after one episode too.

You talk as if anime ratings are your life.
Also watch your mouth retard.


They totally fucking are. Shit, man. I love fucking ratings. It's just too damn bad many assholes are stupid about ratings and reviews.
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5layer said:
TTGL is probably hit with trolls just as much, if not more, than the other anime. It's just that it has such a high member count that it isn't particularly affected by trolls like that. Removing all trolls, LotGH would definitely be number 1 on MAL.


I would say it would be LotGH just based on percent.
Percentage of 10 votes:
TTGL: 44.1%
KnK 5: 44.8%
LotGH: 51.6%

Kaiserpingvin said:
regardless if it's only so that they can snub KnK off the top place. Or however trolls think.

I think that's going a little to far.


No, base it on the amount of 1's it has percent whys and you see that LotGH should be 9.2 at least if you get rid of the trolls
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Metroid_Ex said:
Ketuekigami said:
5layer said:
TTGL is probably hit with trolls just as much, if not more, than the other anime. It's just that it has such a high member count that it isn't particularly affected by trolls like that. Removing all trolls, LotGH would definitely be number 1 on MAL.


I would say it would be LotGH just based on percent.
Percentage of 10 votes:
TTGL: 44.1%
KnK 5: 44.8%
LotGH: 51.6%

Kaiserpingvin said:
regardless if it's only so that they can snub KnK off the top place. Or however trolls think.

I think that's going a little to far.


No, base it on the amount of 1's it has percent whys and you see that LotGH should be 9.2 at least if you get rid of the trolls


You're forgetting the trolls who vote 10's on shows though.
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Drunk_Samurai said:
Metroid_Ex said:
Ketuekigami said:
5layer said:
TTGL is probably hit with trolls just as much, if not more, than the other anime. It's just that it has such a high member count that it isn't particularly affected by trolls like that. Removing all trolls, LotGH would definitely be number 1 on MAL.


I would say it would be LotGH just based on percent.
Percentage of 10 votes:
TTGL: 44.1%
KnK 5: 44.8%
LotGH: 51.6%

Kaiserpingvin said:
regardless if it's only so that they can snub KnK off the top place. Or however trolls think.

I think that's going a little to far.


No, base it on the amount of 1's it has percent whys and you see that LotGH should be 9.2 at least if you get rid of the trolls


You're forgetting the trolls who vote 10's on shows though.

But your saying that as if there aren't any of those that did that for TTGL (I know that isn't what you're implying but your sentence certainly gives that impression). With the humongous member list that TTGL has and the fact that the first few attempts to bring KnK 5 down had mostly TTGL at a 10 you cannot say that there isn't a large chance that a large number of accounts are trolling TTGL with 10s even now as well. Who knows, that may even be a considerable percent of the 10 votes for TTGL and if taken out would drop its rating more then just slightly. I'm not saying that that is a definite, but you certainly cant deny the possibility.

It's true that its harder to spot the 10 accounts for various reasons but the mods seem pretty confident in their ability to spot fakes so all we can do is leave it up to them.

@Metroid_Ex
May i ask were you got 9.2? It just doesn't sound right... Although i didn't apply any math to it so i have no proof, it just doesn't sound right O__o
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Drunk_Samurai said:
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No, base it on the amount of 1's it has percent whys and you see that LotGH should be 9.2 at least if you get rid of the trolls


You're forgetting the trolls who vote 10's on shows though.


If there are just as many trolls who vote 10's as there are who vote 1's then they won't have any affect on the score anyway. It's the same as not voting at all. The trolls just negate themselves.
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If there are just as many trolls who vote 10's as there are who vote 1's then they won't have any affect on the score anyway. It's the same as not voting at all. The trolls just negate themselves.
Really? Wouldn't a 10-troll and a 1-troll mean giving the series a rating of 5.5?

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Touka said:
If there are just as many trolls who vote 10's as there are who vote 1's then they won't have any affect on the score anyway. It's the same as not voting at all. The trolls just negate themselves.
Really? Wouldn't a 10-troll and a 1-troll mean giving the series a rating of 5.5?


Wow... just wow. How could I be so stupid. Be right back, off to dig my own grave.
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Yeah, 10 trolls aren't nearly as effective as the 1 trolls. They're also much harder to locate.
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Ketuekigami said:
Drunk_Samurai said:
Metroid_Ex said:
Ketuekigami said:
5layer said:
TTGL is probably hit with trolls just as much, if not more, than the other anime. It's just that it has such a high member count that it isn't particularly affected by trolls like that. Removing all trolls, LotGH would definitely be number 1 on MAL.


I would say it would be LotGH just based on percent.
Percentage of 10 votes:
TTGL: 44.1%
KnK 5: 44.8%
LotGH: 51.6%

Kaiserpingvin said:
regardless if it's only so that they can snub KnK off the top place. Or however trolls think.

I think that's going a little to far.


No, base it on the amount of 1's it has percent whys and you see that LotGH should be 9.2 at least if you get rid of the trolls


You're forgetting the trolls who vote 10's on shows though.

But your saying that as if there aren't any of those that did that for TTGL (I know that isn't what you're implying but your sentence certainly gives that impression). With the humongous member list that TTGL has and the fact that the first few attempts to bring KnK 5 down had mostly TTGL at a 10 you cannot say that there isn't a large chance that a large number of accounts are trolling TTGL with 10s even now as well. Who knows, that may even be a considerable percent of the 10 votes for TTGL and if taken out would drop its rating more then just slightly. I'm not saying that that is a definite, but you certainly cant deny the possibility.

It's true that its harder to spot the 10 accounts for various reasons but the mods seem pretty confident in their ability to spot fakes so all we can do is leave it up to them.

@Metroid_Ex
May i ask were you got 9.2? It just doesn't sound right... Although i didn't apply any math to it so i have no proof, it just doesn't sound right O__o
I was joking but when you take into fact that percentage rates of 1s







As far as the 10 troll goes it would take nine 10s just to make up for for one 9 troll.
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cyruz said:
Touka said:
If there are just as many trolls who vote 10's as there are who vote 1's then they won't have any affect on the score anyway. It's the same as not voting at all. The trolls just negate themselves.
Really? Wouldn't a 10-troll and a 1-troll mean giving the series a rating of 5.5?
^ thats my mean average of all the anime scored on my list.
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Drunk_Samurai said:
Amaya-no-Hime said:
Tachii said:
Amaya-no-Hime said:
10.00 rating for FMA2, I'm guessing.

MAL's becoming a larger site, trolls are probably never going to stop coming.
No wai, bro.


It's 58th after one episode XD.


That's because people are retards and rate a show after only one episode. There are also morons who make reviews after one episode too.

I resent this statement, since I rate shows as I watch them. I don't think it's bad to not wait until the end to rate an anime. Also, on the note of 10 and 1 trolls, lol at all the math. I also find it funny that LoGH is considered "underrated" although it's in the top 3. There will always be trolls and there will always be people who rate low. anything close to a 9/10 has an incredibly high rating.
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