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one piece surpassed dragonball but do you guys think that in the next 50 years there will be a manga that will surpass one piece in terms of manga sales?

is it theoryticaly possible or not?

total and invidual volume sales
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Yeah probably. There is also the possibility of one piece losing it's success albeit unlikely.

It's yearly volume sales rank number one but they are inconsistent in number of volumes sold. There are significant drops and rises between almost each year.

For the sake of the manga industry, I hope so.
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No one stay at the top forever
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probably in more then 100 years, it's gonna take a while for somebody to pull off what oda has been able to do
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The lowest price of a One Piece volume is 410 yen (about US$5.10, tax included). As of February of 2012, the volumes of One Piece have brought in at least 112,126,800,000 yen (US$1,404,220,000) in revenue.

^quoted from some website its probly true though anyway nearly 300m sales and dbz is next with half that and everyone in the world has seen dbz

one piece is king
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yes, but probably not by any manga that currently exists.
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The lowest price of a One Piece volume is 410 yen (about US$5.10, tax included). As of February of 2012, the volumes of One Piece have brought in at least 112,126,800,000 yen (US$1,404,220,000) in revenue.

^quoted from some website its probly true though anyway nearly 300m sales and dbz is next with half that and everyone in the world has seen dbz

one piece is king


^this made me lol

One Piece ------> 68 volumes and 270 million copies sold (on-going)
Dragonball ------> 42 volumes and 230 million copies sold (finished series)

Its not a surprise that OP has sold more copies than DB because One Piece has way more volumes and there are going to be over 100 volumes at the end.
But DB managed to sell almost as much copies as OP eventhough One Piece has way more volumes...

so its Dragonball >>>>>>>> your momma

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Technically, it never beat Dragon Ball Z. Neither will anything else that didn't sell as much by the time it reached vol.42.
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Well, it's vastly popular, and from my memory, I remember reading in a different forums about claims on Oda already planning out the ending. Despite the fact that this is still currently half or even less content released.
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Well, it's vastly popular, and from my memory, I remember reading in a different forums about claims on Oda already planning out the ending. Despite the fact that this is still currently half or even less content released.


everyone seems to say that at this moment, and it's not very hard to do, you just have breakfast and instead of thinking about next episode, you think about the final, and work your way there :)
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This is funny. One Piece doesn't sell as much as Dragon Ball when it reached vol.42? LOL. How long has it been since Dragon Ball ended again? Almost 2 decades ago while One Piece's vol.42 is like only 8 years ago. It's not even at the peak of the story yet. People really are funny.
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For the sake of the manga industry, I hope so.

There will always be someone trying to start something.

On topic, well it's hard to say, because a lot of authors get really lazy recently, and just stick with typical harem rom com shizz and never really aim to be big, but well, with enough luck it might be possible, but chances are nearly zero.

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everyone seems to say that at this moment, and it's not very hard to do, you just have breakfast and instead of thinking about next episode, you think about the final, and work your way there :)

When are you going to publish your own piece of work? I can't wait to read them.
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All haters can die.

One Piece is the top sold manga off all time and will stay like that for ever!!!
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Why would I need to publish my own work? 0.0
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StefanHere said:
The lowest price of a One Piece volume is 410 yen (about US$5.10, tax included). As of February of 2012, the volumes of One Piece have brought in at least 112,126,800,000 yen (US$1,404,220,000) in revenue.

^quoted from some website its probly true though anyway nearly 300m sales and dbz is next with half that and everyone in the world has seen dbz

one piece is king


^this made me lol

One Piece ------> 68 volumes and 270 million copies sold (on-going)
Dragonball ------> 42 volumes and 230 million copies sold (finished series)

Its not a surprise that OP has sold more copies than DB because One Piece has way more volumes and there are going to be over 100 volumes at the end.
But DB managed to sell almost as much copies as OP eventhough One Piece has way more volumes...

so its Dragonball >>>>>>>> your momma



"almost as much copies as OP" 40 million copies gap and you say "almost", Look here i love DB it's one of my fav's of all time (actually second) but OP is just crazy!

And if it was less on volumes it would surpass DB, Cuz one of the most and probably only reason why OP is not watched (read) by more people is the length of the show.
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Why would I need to publish my own work? 0.0

Because you're not allowed to criticize someone unless you can you do their job & do it better than them.
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Why would I need to publish my own work? 0.0

Because you're not allowed to criticize someone unless you can you do their job & do it better than them.
Yes but what if hundred's of people already did their job better? Do I still need to?
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Why would I need to publish my own work? 0.0

Because you're not allowed to criticize someone unless you can you do their job & do it better than them.
Yes but what if hundred's of people already did their job better? Do I still need to?

Yes.
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Oh. Too bad I went ahead anyway...
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CeeTwo said:
Why would I need to publish my own work? 0.0

Because you're not allowed to criticize someone unless you can you do their job & do it better than them.

Wrong, it's because you can't insult people by calling them or implying that they're ret'ard without proving yourself to be better by writing one yourself. Keeping up with the quality of the art, trying to write better story, pressure of deadlines, and expectation of fans, and so on, and even so, writing continuously for 14 years without much breaks.
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"almost as much copies as OP" 40 million copies gap and you say "almost", Look here i love DB it's one of my fav's of all time (actually second) but OP is just crazy!

And if it was less on volumes it would surpass DB, Cuz one of the most and probably only reason why OP is not watched (read) by more people is the length of the show.


Geez another delusional One Piece fanboy.
Yes,One Piece has sold 40 million copies more than DB but it also has 26 (!) more volumes and I bet there will be another 26 at the end.
You know,its not very hard to have the best selling manga eva by publishing billions of volumes...if One Piece had stopped at volume 42 like Dragonball did,it would probably sell less than Dragonball,so bye.
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I didn't call or imply anyone was a ret'ard...
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Well, it's vastly popular, and from my memory, I remember reading in a different forums about claims on Oda already planning out the ending. Despite the fact that this is still currently half or even less content released.


everyone seems to say that at this moment, and it's not very hard to do, you just have breakfast and instead of thinking about next episode, you think about the final, and work your way there :)


I personally don't mind too much, I'm updated on the Manga, so I'll just gradually watch it as it airs, until the hopeful day when a conclusion arises
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"almost as much copies as OP" 40 million copies gap and you say "almost", Look here i love DB it's one of my fav's of all time (actually second) but OP is just crazy!

And if it was less on volumes it would surpass DB, Cuz one of the most and probably only reason why OP is not watched (read) by more people is the length of the show.


Geez another delusional One Piece fanboy.
Yes,One Piece has sold 40 million copies more than DB but it also has 26 (!) more volumes and I bet there will be another 26 at the end.
You know,its not very hard to have the best selling manga eva by publishing billions of volumes...if One Piece had stopped at volume 42 like Dragonball did,it would probably sell less than Dragonball,so bye.


You're the delusional, Hater. Keep dreaming !

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Well, it's vastly popular, and from my memory, I remember reading in a different forums about claims on Oda already planning out the ending. Despite the fact that this is still currently half or even less content released.


everyone seems to say that at this moment, and it's not very hard to do, you just have breakfast and instead of thinking about next episode, you think about the final, and work your way there :)


I personally don't mind too much, I'm updated on the Manga, so I'll just gradually watch it as it airs, until the hopeful day when a conclusion arises

> Implying that One Piece is one of those never ending story when the end was clearly in sight, they just need time to realize their dreams, and they are sailing toward them.

If you read more manga you will know that a lot of them don't even have the "goal", especially a lot of rom com, they won't end until it's doing badly or get cancelled.
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Yagami22 said:
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"almost as much copies as OP" 40 million copies gap and you say "almost", Look here i love DB it's one of my fav's of all time (actually second) but OP is just crazy!

And if it was less on volumes it would surpass DB, Cuz one of the most and probably only reason why OP is not watched (read) by more people is the length of the show.


Geez another delusional One Piece fanboy.
Yes,One Piece has sold 40 million copies more than DB but it also has 26 (!) more volumes and I bet there will be another 26 at the end.
You know,its not very hard to have the best selling manga eva by publishing billions of volumes...if One Piece had stopped at volume 42 like Dragonball did,it would probably sell less than Dragonball,so bye.


just to say it also has out sold alot of manga have more volumes than it ippo and Kochi kame for exmaple so learn your facts first

fyi im not fanboy while i like one piece its not evne in my top 10 fave shounen manga of all time
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You're the delusional, Hater. Keep dreaming !

bye.


Really? If I remember correctly,the creator of One Piece said that he was inspired by Dragonball...so please tell me all about how One Piece is the God of all anime.Just keep your ignorant mouth shut!

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fyi im not fanboy while i like one piece its not evne in my top 10 fave shounen manga of all time


wtf no one talked to you
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BeyondNero said:

You're the delusional, Hater. Keep dreaming !

bye.


Really? If I remember correctly,the creator of One Piece said that he was inspired by Dragonball...so please tell me all about how One Piece is the God of all anime.Just keep your ignorant mouth shut!

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fyi im not fanboy while i like one piece its not evne in my top 10 fave shounen manga of all time


wtf no one talked to you


so you you quute be out of context when i give you facts
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Really? If I remember correctly,the creator of One Piece said that he was inspired by Dragonball...so please tell me all about how One Piece is the God of all anime.Just keep your ignorant mouth shut!



Either you're blind or trying to make shit up, When the fuck did i say that OP is the god of all anime, And who the fuck are you? A Manga expert? Get the fuck outta here ignorant.


If you can't argue like real smart people then don't say shit you can't back up. One Piece is top, period

god damn it!!
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This fanbase needs intervention...
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This fanbase needs intervention...

Always trying to talk shit about OP fanbase. Why not talk about the haters? They're more fun to be talking about.

I don't know how well DB or OP did in the total sales worldwide, I tried to search for them online, but they are all old news, and I am not even sure if they're reliable, but simply put, DB has better success internationally, and One Piece is doing much better in Japan. Heck, even Naruto has better success internationally.
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First time I criticized the fanbase in a general sense...
Gee people..,
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Yes by attack on titan even though I hate it because it's too popular.
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Yes by attack on titan even though I hate it because it's too popular.

One Piece still have 10 years to go, and Shingeki no Kyojin is supposed to be short according to the mangaka, Isayama. Shingeki no Kyojin has to beat One Piece in the per volume sales first before trying to beat it's total sales.
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There's always a probability but I personally don't want it.


And while I'm at it, as a writer, it's really pissed me off to know someone out there underestimating storytelling. What? You can get a good story with just that? And don't tell me to get an idea of a satisfying ending, all you need to do is just taking a bath or something? Wow great! I wonder why there are so much author failing to do something simple as having breakfast while thinking towards the ending.

Really, CeeTwo, I know that this series sucks for you, I pity you for that. But to write something as insulting as that, clearly shows that you don't have general idea about what you wrote huh?
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What I meant was, just because someone says he planned the ending doesn't make it true

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Just cause someone DID plan the ending, doesn't make it -automatically- good...

And sometimes, planning a story showd weakness in writing. Sometimes.

Your last graph is presumtuous so I won't reply.
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^this made me lol

One Piece ------> 68 volumes and 270 million copies sold (on-going)
Dragonball ------> 42 volumes and 230 million copies sold (finished series)

Its not a surprise that OP has sold more copies than DB because One Piece has way more volumes and there are going to be over 100 volumes at the end.
But DB managed to sell almost as much copies as OP eventhough One Piece has way more volumes...

so its Dragonball >>>>>>>> your momma

Where did you get your numbers? I've found that One Piece has sold twice as many volumes as Dragonball.
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2013-10-28/one-piece-manga-has-300-million-copies-in-print


OT: Yeah it definitely could happen. I wonder what the next manga that will capture Japan like that but I'm not holding my breath. Not only because it takes a while but because I didn't think the other top manga were too great.
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There's always a probability but I personally don't want it.


And while I'm at it, as a writer, it's really pissed me off to know someone out there underestimating storytelling. What? You can get a good story with just that? And don't tell me to get an idea of a satisfying ending, all you need to do is just taking a bath or something? Wow great! I wonder why there are so much author failing to do something simple as having breakfast while thinking towards the ending.

Really, CeeTwo, I know that this series sucks for you, I pity you for that. But to write something as insulting as that, clearly shows that you don't have general idea about what you wrote huh?

Don't be so offended. Chillax. :3

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^this made me lol

One Piece ------> 68 volumes and 270 million copies sold (on-going)
Dragonball ------> 42 volumes and 230 million copies sold (finished series)

Its not a surprise that OP has sold more copies than DB because One Piece has way more volumes and there are going to be over 100 volumes at the end.
But DB managed to sell almost as much copies as OP eventhough One Piece has way more volumes...

so its Dragonball >>>>>>>> your momma

Where did you get your numbers? I've found that One Piece has sold twice as many volumes as Dragonball.
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2013-10-28/one-piece-manga-has-300-million-copies-in-print


OT: Yeah it definitely could happen. I wonder what the next manga that will capture Japan like that but I'm not holding my breath. Not only because it takes a while but because I didn't think the other top manga were too great.

Only in Japan. DB did very well internationally, and in contrast One Piece didn't really.. do that well..
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^this made me lol

One Piece ------> 68 volumes and 270 million copies sold (on-going)
Dragonball ------> 42 volumes and 230 million copies sold (finished series)

Its not a surprise that OP has sold more copies than DB because One Piece has way more volumes and there are going to be over 100 volumes at the end.
But DB managed to sell almost as much copies as OP eventhough One Piece has way more volumes...

so its Dragonball >>>>>>>> your momma

Where did you get your numbers? I've found that One Piece has sold twice as many volumes as Dragonball.
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2013-10-28/one-piece-manga-has-300-million-copies-in-print


OT: Yeah it definitely could happen. I wonder what the next manga that will capture Japan like that but I'm not holding my breath. Not only because it takes a while but because I didn't think the other top manga were too great.

Only in Japan. DB did very well internationally, and in contrast One Piece didn't really.. do that well..
I'd like to see where it says that or at least where he got Dragonball's number from.
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I'd like to see where it says that or at least where he got Dragonball's number from.

If possible I would also want a full list of top selling manga of all time up to date, of course, worldwide sales.
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^this made me lol

One Piece ------> 68 volumes and 270 million copies sold (on-going)
Dragonball ------> 42 volumes and 230 million copies sold (finished series)

Its not a surprise that OP has sold more copies than DB because One Piece has way more volumes and there are going to be over 100 volumes at the end.
But DB managed to sell almost as much copies as OP eventhough One Piece has way more volumes...

so its Dragonball >>>>>>>> your momma

Where did you get your numbers? I've found that One Piece has sold twice as many volumes as Dragonball.
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2013-10-28/one-piece-manga-has-300-million-copies-in-print


OT: Yeah it definitely could happen. I wonder what the next manga that will capture Japan like that but I'm not holding my breath. Not only because it takes a while but because I didn't think the other top manga were too great.

Only in Japan. DB did very well internationally, and in contrast One Piece didn't really.. do that well..
I'd like to see where it says that or at least where he got Dragonball's number from.


were going after total run sales one piece wins i odnt think DB osld 20 plus mliion in the us i realy doubt
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I'd like to see where it says that or at least where he got Dragonball's number from.


I found the sales on this site:

http://en.rocketnews24.com/2013/02/26/the-best-of-the-best-of-manga-shonen-jumps-20-best-sellers-of-all-time/

This article is from Feb 26,2013.
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I'd like to see where it says that or at least where he got Dragonball's number from.


I found the sales on this site:

http://en.rocketnews24.com/2013/02/26/the-best-of-the-best-of-manga-shonen-jumps-20-best-sellers-of-all-time/

This article is from Feb 26,2013.
Hmm, that's an odd site. From what I've found by Nov 2013, One Piece had already sold 345 million volumes. That's like 80 million more than what was sold a couple of months earlier. Also the site you linked(that said One Piece has 270 million and Dragonball 230 million)'s source is a page(that I don't know how well supported it is) but it says that Dragonball has sold 350 million volumes which is more than One Piece's 270 million.

I'll also support Date's post that it isn't because of how many volumes it has. There are manga that have been published since the 60s that are still going, and even other shounens that are way longer yet One Piece outsells. I'll also say that Dragonball has had 13 more years than One Piece to gain sold volumes.

Edit: That one source site said that it updated Jan 9, 2014. Which doesn't make sense as it's already said that One Piece sold over 300 million months ago, it was quite big news, even had a page in the New York Times.
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Ok to put those numbers and source discussion to rest.

Dragon Ball has sold 230 Million copies worldwide because the Official source (the website for Battle of Gods) says so:
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2012-12-03/2013-dragon-ball-z/battle-of-gods-film-story-outlined
The 350 Million is just a rumor from some producer from the live action film to generate publicity.
We know from an old media guide that DB has sold over 150 million in Japan. That leaves something around 70-80 Million worldwide.

One Piece has sold 345 Million worldwide. We know of it because of the ads that were in the New York Times. One Piece has sold 300 Million in Japan. That leaves 45 million worldwide sales.

Those are the most recent numbers we have. So is the discussion over or does somebody need some sources?
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No, that explanation seems sufficient. Though the whole discussion on this thread is not just the actual sales of those two manga.
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