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Sep 14, 2013 9:03 AM

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excuse me but shu (guilty crown) is a badass male lead you'll just have to wait
Sep 16, 2013 8:32 AM

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They're awesome IF they man up at some point
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I prefer realistic characters over "badass one man army" or "Even though I'm an idiot every girl for some reason loves me" characters.
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If there is a strong supporting cast I can deal with it, but I don't really like it
Sep 17, 2013 2:18 PM

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Ahh, I never get tired of this thread and it's ignorant posts.
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Not really. I understand they serve as self-insertion/wish-fulfillment fantasies for the primary audience and financial supporters of latenight anime, lonely Japanese otaku. So I see them as something that goes with the territory, not something I have a right to complain about.

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Sep 18, 2013 2:55 AM

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No. Characters like that have lots of room for improvement and opportunities for character development, which is usually the point of wimpy characters in the first place.
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Sep 18, 2013 3:30 AM

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I dont really mind.
Sep 18, 2013 6:52 AM

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Depends on the show and reasoning. Some people are just wimpy and I honesty.don't care. I'd prefer a wimpy character opposed to one trying to be a badass when he's not.
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I like wimpy male leads. I just hate it when the guy gains a power and doesn't get scared at all when he suddenly begins fighting monsters or whatever. It's more realistic for them to be scared than not.
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Sep 18, 2013 1:14 PM

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I bet shinji is a hermphadite with a micro penis and no balls.
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Sep 18, 2013 1:18 PM

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BAKA Shinji :'(, I sorta accept Amano Yuki and Ouma Shu though.
Sep 18, 2013 1:24 PM

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Depends if the character has a legitimate reason. Shinji is understandable.
Sep 18, 2013 1:25 PM

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PoeticJustice said:
Depends if the character has a legitimate reason. Shinji is understandable.


No it isn't. He/she was just born a natural spineless faggot.
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Sep 18, 2013 4:27 PM

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MajinSaga said:
PoeticJustice said:
Depends if the character has a legitimate reason. Shinji is understandable.


No it isn't. He/she was just born a natural spineless faggot.
I'd like to see your mecha-piloting world-saving credentials, please.

Kruszer said:
No. Characters like that have lots of room for improvement and opportunities for character development, which is usually the point of wimpy characters in the first place.
Exactly.

But nobody acknowledges this, or seems to understand it.

Their "wimpyness" isn't supposed to be liked exactly. It's supposed to make them relatable (yes, relatable. No, you are not a super hero, are not capable of handling mass amounts of pressure, or otherwise display a masterful physical prowess. You are a normal person. Stop expecting normal people (AKA MCs) to display traits that normal people don't have), and also give them room to grow.

But sadly, people see their weakness and form a retarded ass confirmation bias against them right off the bat, and end up ignoring any sort of development or anything that otherwise makes them un-wimpy throughout the course of the show.
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Red_Keys said:
MajinSaga said:
PoeticJustice said:
Depends if the character has a legitimate reason. Shinji is understandable.


No it isn't. He/she was just born a natural spineless faggot.
I'd like to see your mecha-piloting world-saving credentials, please.

Kruszer said:
No. Characters like that have lots of room for improvement and opportunities for character development, which is usually the point of wimpy characters in the first place.
Exactly.

But nobody acknowledges this, or seems to understand it.

Their "wimpyness" isn't supposed to be liked exactly. It's supposed to make them relatable (yes, relatable. No, you are not a super hero, are not capable of handling mass amounts of pressure, or otherwise display a masterful physical prowess. You are a normal person. Stop expecting normal people (AKA MCs) to display traits that normal people don't have), and also give them room to grow.

But sadly, people see their weakness and form a retarded ass confirmation bias against them right off the bat, and end up ignoring any sort of development or anything that otherwise makes them un-wimpy throughout the course of the show.

THIS.
So many don't understand that the wimpyness isn't supposed to be likeable, but rather relatable. Also, if every character in the series was a badass, and none of them had any vulnerabilities, then it wouldn't be much of an interesting show, now wouldn't it? I know that there ARE exceptions.
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Sep 18, 2013 4:43 PM

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Forgetfulness said:
StillSwingin007 said:
Red_Keys said:
MajinSaga said:
PoeticJustice said:
Depends if the character has a legitimate reason. Shinji is understandable.


No it isn't. He/she was just born a natural spineless faggot.
I'd like to see your mecha-piloting world-saving credentials, please.

Kruszer said:
No. Characters like that have lots of room for improvement and opportunities for character development, which is usually the point of wimpy characters in the first place.
Exactly.

But nobody acknowledges this, or seems to understand it.

Their "wimpyness" isn't supposed to be liked exactly. It's supposed to make them relatable (yes, relatable. No, you are not a super hero, are not capable of handling mass amounts of pressure, or otherwise display a masterful physical prowess. You are a normal person. Stop expecting normal people (AKA MCs) to display traits that normal people don't have), and also give them room to grow.

But sadly, people see their weakness and form a retarded ass confirmation bias against them right off the bat, and end up ignoring any sort of development or anything that otherwise makes them un-wimpy throughout the course of the show.

THIS.
So many don't understand that the wimpyness isn't supposed to be likeable, but rather relatable. Also, if every character in the series was a badass, and none of them had any vulnerabilities, then it wouldn't be much of an interesting show, now wouldn't it? I know that there ARE exceptions.

Because if someone isn't wimpy, they're suddenly a god-moding badass, right?
A middle ground? Pfft, wtf is that?

Was just making an example.
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Sep 18, 2013 4:58 PM

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Forgetfulness said:
PoeticJustice said:
Depends if the character has a legitimate reason. Shinji is understandable.

I agree with this. To sum up my thoughts of the few wimpy characters I've seen:

Shu - I don't even know why people are complaining about this guy cause I don't remember him being a pussy. But then again, Guilty Crown was one of the first serious anime I watched before I came to MAL and developed the ability to make objective opinions

Shinji - I don't blame him for that. He literally does not freaking know how to move the mecha.

Yuki - absolute trash. Can't barely get even the most basic things done without whining for like forever.
And I don't even think he got better (my memory kinda sucks). If he did: too little, too late. I do remember that he
>cried for over half the show
>something stupid happened
>instantly becomes able to make his entrance like a "badass" and kiss Yuno
>shit happens
>goes straight back to crying

To your absolute trash list, add Renton Thurston from Eureka 7. I go around MAL raging at him a lot, but it really bears repeating.
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Sep 18, 2013 5:02 PM

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It's alright if they're not that physically strong (at first) but I hate the one's that also have weak wills and are cowards to an extreme sense. Like if they're in deep shit then it's okay for them to be scared and run away. But if they don't even try, that's what really gets me.
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RT251 said:
It's alright if they're not that physically strong (at first) but I hate the one's that also have weak wills and are cowards.

So if you were, out of nowhere, thrown into a mech and was forced to defeat a being called an Angel, you'd be totally over powered, correct?
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Red_Keys said:
MajinSaga said:
PoeticJustice said:
Depends if the character has a legitimate reason. Shinji is understandable.


No it isn't. He/she was just born a natural spineless faggot.

I'd like to see your mecha-piloting world-saving credentials, please.



Does fucking a tall fat chick count?
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Sep 18, 2013 5:07 PM

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StillSwingin007 said:
RT251 said:
It's alright if they're not that physically strong (at first) but I hate the one's that also have weak wills and are cowards.

So if you were, out of nowhere, thrown into a mech and was forced to defeat a being called an Angel, you'd be totally over powered, correct?


I edited it to match my post so that it better explained my opnion.
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Forgetfulness said:
StillSwingin007 said:
Forgetfulness said:
PoeticJustice said:
Depends if the character has a legitimate reason. Shinji is understandable.

I agree with this. To sum up my thoughts of the few wimpy characters I've seen:

Shu - I don't even know why people are complaining about this guy cause I don't remember him being a pussy. But then again, Guilty Crown was one of the first serious anime I watched before I came to MAL and developed the ability to make objective opinions

Shinji - I don't blame him for that. He literally does not freaking know how to move the mecha.

Yuki - absolute trash. Can't barely get even the most basic things done without whining for like forever.
And I don't even think he got better (my memory kinda sucks). If he did: too little, too late. I do remember that he
>cried for over half the show
>something stupid happened
>instantly becomes able to make his entrance like a "badass" and kiss Yuno
>shit happens
>goes straight back to crying

To your absolute trash list, add Renton Thurston from Eureka 7. I go around MAL raging at him a lot, but it really bears repeating.

I haven't even seen it yet :|

Btw to clarify, there are some characters that start out wimpy/weak but end up being absolute bawss. One that comes to mind for me is Tsuna from KHR! I have no problems with those characters, but the ones that don't get significantly better by the end piss me off

Ah, well it's a good show. Just know that Renton WILL piss you off.
Funny thing about Shinji is

I never thought I'd be so fascinated watching a character like Shinji.
And for characters who start out wimpy and end up badass, SIMON from GURREN LAGANN. Holy crap, his development is amazing!
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Sep 18, 2013 9:28 PM

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When I saw the thread title the first thing that popped up into my head was Accel World.
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I don't really care because I tend to focus on female characters while watching anime more lel
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When I saw the thread title the first thing that popped up into my head was Accel World.

i don't understand, why do creators make characters like that? nobody likes them anyway. i find loser characters disgusting.
Oct 27, 2013 8:50 AM
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Yes nothing interesting comes about them and I think there is a topic similar
Oct 27, 2013 8:56 AM

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Riptos said:
I don't think that thing has worked since I came here XD

On topic though, I dont mind a wimpy male lead as long as they have some redeeming feature that overturns it.


Too bad most of the wimpy male leads are just that, wimpy male leads.
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I just hate watching animes that are like that.. it just pisses me off so much and puts me off watching it.

i wanted to watch an anime like .hack//sign where it's about a story inside a game. so i saw reviews about Accel World. that fat ass kid pissed me off... good thing Sword Art Online came out


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Oct 27, 2013 9:08 AM

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Yes,Mirai Nikki and To Love Ru could have been 100% without those MC
i really hate them

but i didn't have problem with Accel World MC...actually i like him
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Jeetard said:
I just hate watching animes that are like that.. it just pisses me off so much and puts me off watching it.

i wanted to watch an anime like .hack//sign where it's about a story inside a game. so i saw reviews about Accel World. that fat ass kid pissed me off... good thing Sword Art Online came out


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i don't want to watch Claymore because i have seen the first episode and know that main male character would just make me angry. useless, annoying character.
Oct 27, 2013 10:25 AM

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They piss me off
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Oct 27, 2013 10:27 AM

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yes, "Amano, Yukiteru" of "Mirrai Nikki", i've never seen such a annoying male lead, he ruined the show for me
Oct 27, 2013 10:40 AM

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so in short you guys like "wish fulfilling" characters? I think wimpy characters are bad if they didn't develop at the end of the anime.. Gurren lagann's Simon is a wimpy character but at the end he was a confident courageous person.. So it depends on how they work out the end.. at least for me..
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so in short you guys like "wish fulfilling" characters? I think wimpy characters are bad if they didn't develop at the end of the anime.. Gurren lagann's Simon is a wimpy character but at the end he was a confident courageous person.. So it depends on how they work out the end.. at least for me..

No. most people hate them.
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Dunno. I think it is alright if it is believable, like if you would be scared in that situation too. A good example of this would be Yuki from Future Diary.
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Love them.
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Yeah I do. They get annoying. The guy from Mirai Nikki was an exception though.........kinda. I forgot his name. I think it was Yuki. I mean if I was in that situation I would be scared as well. He did improve at the end anyways. Well yeah some get on my nerves. ._.
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What?

The guy stands up to monsters who can literally kill him without even lifting a finger. He's got more balls than a lot of anime characters, and certainly more than most harem leads.

If you're talking about him being physically weak.. that's just retarded. It's not in any way his fault. It's like saying a human being launched into outer space without any protection, and then horribly dying, is "wimpy" because he couldn't survive.

Give me a break.
Oct 27, 2013 5:36 PM

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Haruyuki Arita...the king of pathetic, wimpy male leads.
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yep, especially Shinji. WHAT A LOSER FAGGOT. XXXDDDDDDDDD

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I liked Shinji, hes like the only wimpy main character i've ever liked
Oct 27, 2013 6:21 PM
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Only when it does not make any sense. Why would the guy with the hidden powers of the devil be wimpy, I ask of you?

But in Manga/anime like Bokurano, it makes perfect sense to be afraid and piloting a giant robot a the young age of 12.
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Guys like Amano Yukiteru/Haruyuki Arita? Oooh yea, I sure do find them annoying and hard to watch.
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Oct 28, 2013 1:04 AM
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I don't mind wimpy main characters. But i CANNOT stand DENSE MC's.
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I only hate wimpy male leads when they stay wimpy but if they get over it and actually become powerful characters then it can be good. Like Yuuji Sakai (Shakugan no Shana) he starts out being a wimp and by the end he is one of the most powerful characters in the show, I'm not going too say how he becomes that because that would be a spoiler.
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I love wimpy male leads. The wimpier the better. I don't get how so many people like badass MCs, they're boring as fuck.
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