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| THIS IS A MANGA ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS ANYTHING BEYOND THIS CHAPTER. ---------------------------------------- Holy crap finally finding out the truth! It's a bit like Yu Yu Hakusho with one guy's blood flowing through all Quincies. Also...why did Uryuu join that jackass? |
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| Ishida, you were nothing but a giant, walking fuck-up and after 500 or so chapters you learned absolutely nothing. Personally I hope you get your just deserts but unfortunately this is your rescue arc and we have to stick with you until you turn good again... |
| So Masaki died not only because of Grandfisher but from Juha Bach stealing the power from her since she's a mixed-blood quincy. Katagiri happened to be Uryu's mother as expected. "His blood flows in every quincy" - even Ichigo's. Well shit... xD Aww hell no, Uryu don't side with Juha Bach! Fuark... Expecting a Ichigo VS Uryu fight now. This will be awesome. Also, I'm seriously hoping we'll finally see Grimmjow's full appearance now that we're finished with the flashback arcs, which were very good as well |
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| Since Juha's blood resides in every quincy, including Ichigo, then that somewhat explains Zangetsu's resemblance to Juha. |
| Waaaay back when Uryuu first appeared Urahara told rukia the quincies started off as a clan of spiritually aware humans called magic hunters that invented techniques to defend against hollows.... now there saying Juhabach created quincies clan using his blood. I wonder if Kubo is going to incorporate the story Urahara told in Juhabachs backstory or is he just going to ignore it and go with this new stuff. The old explanation made a lot more sense in my opinion. |
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| Juha Bach, the vacuum. |
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| Uryu's joining Juha Bach?! I wonder if this will result in Uryu getting a power-up. He's always been one of my favorite characters and it's always killed me how weak he was. This is the perfect time for him to get one too since he'll probably become a major player within the Vandenreich now. Hopefully he gets a power-up and comes to blows with Ichigo! That would be a great fight to see! |
| "No matter how much of a genius one is, in front of the Uchiha name, they're just ordinary people." - Sasuke Uchiha |
| Wow everything got explained, Juha Back beast. Dat ending, can't wait for next one to see why did Uryuu join Juha when he was the one who killed his mom, or he's there just to get some info for Shinigami's, which I don't really believe. P.S, Uryuu looks fucking boss in that Quincy holy war outfit. |
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| Oh yes, it's getting epic again. I wonder if Ishida knew about her Mom's death. Damn you Juha Bach. j0x said: and also this chapter almost confirms that Ichigo is PURE blooded Quincy Confirm? Yep, you're at it again. Good luck. |
Empty-Skies said: Since Juha's blood resides in every quincy, including Ichigo, then that somewhat explains Zangetsu's resemblance to Juha. either that or Tite sucks at character design. Look at how much Orihime resembles Ichigo's mom... |
| i think ishida did this to avenge hes mother as a proud quincy or something! nevertheless 5/5 this chapter really loved it ! |
| GEE HEE ! |
| Good chapter. So that's what happened. Damn u Juha Bach!!! U're a BOSS XD Lol at him being everyone's father XDXD First Beelzebub and now here. Why the hell do these mangaka want us to be mindfucked about friends turning to the bad side?? Really wondering if Uryuu has a hidden reason? |
Barion-ZaraMay 15, 2013 3:21 AM
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| so basically Juha Bach had to rape every Quincy mother, ....what a beast!!! shocking |
| Who sealed Bach, Yamamoto? Poor Masaki had to die because of him... |
ramzes5a said: so basically Juha Bach had to rape every Quincy mother, ....what a beast!!! shocking ....wat |
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Zhou said: Who sealed Bach, Yamamoto? Poor Masaki had to die because of him... I'm wondering about that too. We need Fai XD antonn said: ramzes5a said: so basically Juha Bach had to rape every Quincy mother, ....what a beast!!! shocking ....wat LOL XD |
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| That quincy guy came along in that talk. So it's his fault, and that's the meaning of him being "the father" (every quincy's father, including his mother's). And it's inevidable that he's going to fight against Ishida, too. |
I ♥ Two Syaorans from Tsubasa RESERVoir CHRoNiCLE and TRC!!! |
j0x said: Jouten said: It's a bit like Yu Yu Hakusho with one guy's blood flowing through all Quincies. nah not exactly in Yu Yu Hakusho the reason Raizen calls Yusuke his son is because he is the ancestral grandfather of Yusuke, but its good to see that my little assumption about Juha Bach is correct holy shit!!! Juha Bach called Ishida his son too (just like he called Ichigo son too) lol and the reason is his the grand ancestor of all Quincies, awesome chapter it was revealed why and how Ishida and Ichigo mothers died and as expected Katagiri is the mother of Ishida and Ishida sided with Juha Bach? or Ishida will just be a spy and backstab Juha Bach later? P.S. MAL is having troubles with posting threads lol i will just delete the thread i made or let moderators join them EDIT: and also this chapter almost confirms that Ichigo is PURE blooded Quincy Isshin is a shinigami so how does Quincy + Shinigami = Pure blooded quincy? Same with Ishida as Katagiri is only a mixed. |
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| Good chapter. Let' see how Ichigo will create his own zanpakuto. |
j0x said: DestinyFate said: j0x said: and also this chapter almost confirms that Ichigo is PURE blooded Quincy Isshin is a shinigami so how does Quincy + Shinigami = Pure blooded quincy? Same with Ishida as Katagiri is only a mixed. read this chapter again, remember Ichigo used Blut when he fought against Juha Bach and in this chapter Isshin explained that Blut is a skill of PURE BLOODED QUINCIES and sometimes they can obtain it through training which Ichigo never had and also Ichigo survived the HOLY SELECTION its stated on this chapter that only mixed quincies are sacrifice to give Juha Bach powers Explain how a pure blooded quincy would also have shinigami, hollow, & full bring powers. Also simply surviving this so called Holy Selection doesn't make one pure blooded. Uryuu's mother was a mixed blood, thus making Uryuu not a pure blooded quincy either, yet he's still alive as well. |
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| Does it bother none of you that Ichigo has: 1. Shinigami powers 2. Hollow powers 3. Fullbring powers 4. QUINCY POWERS?! (since he lost his zanpakto) I mean come on! What's next? Soul King powers? Well, that aside, What the hell? I knew Juha Bach was some bad ass guy but him being the father of all quincys? What were the people in Sereitei thinking? Oh he's asleep, let's not fucking bother killing him cause there is no possible way of him returning and destroying more than half our fucking army. And why did Aizen refuse? Could this be a reference to him being a quincy aswell? Ye, he might've lost his powers cause of what Juha Bach did but seeing how the plot twists and twists I wouldn't be surprised to see it happening. aaaaand on the other side of the river you have Ishida Uryuu. I don't think he joined him to destroy Sereitei or anything. I think he's there purely for the fact of knowing more about what he did to his mother and what their motive is. Since he's some sort of smartass who thinks he is damn strong but gets his ass handed to him so many times. In the end he's gonna be captured by Juha Bach, Ichigo get's some new powers (how original...) saved Uryuu, kills Juha Bach and everyone lived happily ever after. (or some new villian comes and Ichigo gets new powers!) Kubo Tite, please end this manga properly. |
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j0x said: DestinyFate said: j0x said: and also this chapter almost confirms that Ichigo is PURE blooded Quincy Isshin is a shinigami so how does Quincy + Shinigami = Pure blooded quincy? Same with Ishida as Katagiri is only a mixed. read this chapter again, remember Ichigo used Blut when he fought against Juha Bach and in this chapter Isshin explained that Blut is a skill of PURE BLOODED QUINCIES and sometimes they can obtain it through training which Ichigo never had and also Ichigo survived the HOLY SELECTION its stated on this chapter that only mixed quincies are sacrifice to give Juha Bach powers But common sense says that to be pure blooded you need to have both parents to be pure, which obviously Isshin and Katagiri are not. Those points you mentioned are plot holes that could be addressed later on in the story, for example maybe Ichigo learned blut because his mother was pure blooded and he inherited the ability. |
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Banzboy said: @j0x Or there is another reason. Let's get this organized. Blut is supposedly a skill only available to Pure Blooded Quincies. The holy selection removed all half-quincies of their powers. Katagiri (Ishida's mom) is a half-blooded. Ryuken is pure blooded. Unless half-blood + pure blood = pure blood, Ishida is not pure blooded. Yet he survived the holy selection. So holy selection does not imply that Ichigo is a pure blooded Quincy. So that leaves Blut. If Blut was only accesible to pure bloods, why does Ichigo have it? So this means, Ryuken basically banged Masaki or half-bloods can also use Blut. It said in the same chapter that non-pure bloods can learn blut through training. Most likely Ichigo got it from his mother the same he got Getsuga from Isshin. Edit: Actually I missread that part, the translation makes it sound more like that Pure bloods that don't possess Blut upon birth can train it. |
antonnMay 15, 2013 5:55 AM
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| Ishida traitor! I hope het gets his ass kicked by Ichigo xD |
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Skoliro said: Does it bother none of you that Ichigo has: 1. Shinigami powers 2. Hollow powers 3. Fullbring powers 4. QUINCY POWERS?! (since he lost his zanpakto) I mean come on! What's next? Soul King powers? Well, that aside, What the hell? I knew Juha Bach was some bad ass guy but him being the father of all quincys? What were the people in Sereitei thinking? Oh he's asleep, let's not fucking bother killing him cause there is no possible way of him returning and destroying more than half our fucking army. And why did Aizen refuse? Could this be a reference to him being a quincy aswell? Ye, he might've lost his powers cause of what Juha Bach did but seeing how the plot twists and twists I wouldn't be surprised to see it happening. aaaaand on the other side of the river you have Ishida Uryuu. I don't think he joined him to destroy Sereitei or anything. I think he's there purely for the fact of knowing more about what he did to his mother and what their motive is. Since he's some sort of smartass who thinks he is damn strong but gets his ass handed to him so many times. In the end he's gonna be captured by Juha Bach, Ichigo get's some new powers (how original...) saved Uryuu, kills Juha Bach and everyone lived happily ever after. (or some new villian comes and Ichigo gets new powers!) Kubo Tite, please end this manga properly. As Juha bach said the original Gotei 13 was a bunch of ruthless killers so I doubt they would let Juha bach live if they could kill him, so probably he was too strong for them to kill or was someway unable to be killed like Aizen is now. I think the fullbring powers will not be used again and the arc will be forgotten like a bad nightmare. (Although I kind of want Riruka back since she was interesting). For the other three powers I think Isshin's backstory explained it very well so I have no problems, in fact Ichigo's quincy connections added a lot of intrigue for this arc and I like it. After Aizen was defeated there were signs of him not being completely evil, so probably that's the reason he didn't join them and might help Ichigo later in the arc. Ishida is an interesting piece in the arc I think, he might go the Sasuke route and goes completely evil because the shinigami killed his clan. Or he could become a spy and take revenge on Juha bach for his mother's death. Ishida's father will most likely be involved later on as well which makes it interesting because he's the last pure blooded quincy alive. Obviously the ending will be Juha bach is defeated and it will end in a happy ending but how it happens is what makes it interesting? |
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| Uryuu better have a good reason for doing that, meaning it better be a reason to help Ichigo. >_>; Epic moment: |
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| It is obvious Uryuu joined Juha Bach for get close to him and then betray him when he less expects it... or that's what he thinks. Now we understand why Juha Bach called Ichigo his son. And why Masaki dies. Now it is time for a power up for Ichigo. Hopefully we will see Old Man Zangetsu. |
| so, through the blood of every quincy flows Juha Bach's sperm...that quite the information so he fucked every quincy girl and went in a 900 years comma from dehydration and fatigue...makes you wonder if his sexual preferences have changed during his hibernation as well. he prob has a thing for blondie too, god knows that mustache makes him out to be some kind of sexual predator :)) |
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| Well this isn't the first time Kubo steals something from yu yu hakusho but still I great chapter,loved the ending with uryuu |
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| The truth has been fully revealed... and I knew it. Uryuu will become one with the Stern Ritters! Now I am wondering what kind of hax Kubo will make to power him up so he can stand against our current Ichigo? EDIT: Forgot Ichigo has a sword that was broken. I don't like the sound of it, but hopefully he won't use Quincy powers inside him. |
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