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May 15, 2013 12:12 AM
#101
Araby said: Sure, if you think homosexuality is a relevant analogy to racism.When someone starts something off with "as a straight man," I just stop reading. It's equivalent to "I'm not racist, but," or "in an age of over-sensitivity." They're just things that no one should ever say. Araby said: Talking about anal sex is homophobic? News to me.Heterosexuality and "gay buttsecks." RandomChampion Season 2: The Comeback of Homophobia |
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May 15, 2013 12:14 AM
#102
There is no crime in being a homophobic, so what's the problem?, neither is it a crime to be a racist. It's only a crime if you act on those feelings and thoughts in a harmful way. |
May 15, 2013 12:14 AM
#103
Araby said: When someone starts something off with "as a straight man," I just stop reading. It's equivalent to "I'm not racist, but," or "in an age of over-sensitivity." They're just things that no one should ever say. As a straight, Reptilian Kaiju I find this post to be quite assumptive. |
The Art of Eight |
May 15, 2013 12:14 AM
#104
katsucats said: I don't. I just think that both of those phrases belong to a greater family of phrases which generally discredit your opinion before you even give it.Araby said: Sure, if you think homosexuality is a relevant analogy to racism.When someone starts something off with "as a straight man," I just stop reading. It's equivalent to "I'm not racist, but," or "in an age of over-sensitivity." They're just things that no one should ever say. katsucats said: My original post was just "more homophobia," haha. I figured it was obvious enough what I was referring to, but just in case I edited it to be crystal clear. Apparently that wasn't enough... One day I will learn to stick to the 'anime' part of myanimelist. Talking about anal sex is homophobic? News to me. |
JoshMay 15, 2013 12:18 AM
LoneWolf said: @Josh makes me sad to call myself Canadian. |
May 15, 2013 12:15 AM
#105
Araby said: Stop contradicting yourself.katsucats said: I don't. I just think that both of those phrases belong to a greater family of phrases which generally discredit your opinion before you even give it.Araby said: Sure, if you think homosexuality is a relevant analogy to racism.When someone starts something off with "as a straight man," I just stop reading. It's equivalent to "I'm not racist, but," or "in an age of over-sensitivity." They're just things that no one should ever say. |
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May 15, 2013 12:17 AM
#106
Katsucats to the rescue XD A Wild Political Correctness Zealot appeared, Katsucats used Logic, it's super effective. |
May 15, 2013 12:19 AM
#108
Araby said: I know I've bugged you about being homophobic in the range of 5-10 times, but you're ever unchanging. RandomChampion said: Speak for yourself. Straight men find gay buttsex repulsive. I'm going to say that gay men do not find gay buttsecks repulsive and straight women dont find heterosexuality repulsive. Heterosexuality and homosexuality? Nope. Heterosexuality and "gay buttsecks." RandomChampion Season 2: The Comeback of Homophobiamaybe repulsive is the wrong word but how is any of that homobobic? |
May 15, 2013 12:19 AM
#109
katsucats said: I don't get it.Stop contradicting yourself. Amadyeus said: I can't tell if you're being serious or not, so I'll assume you are. Expressing homophobia or racism or whatever is acting in a harmful way. I'm not saying it's a crime, but that's completely irrelevant to whether or not something is a "problem." There is no crime in being a homophobic, so what's the problem?, neither is it a crime to be a racist. It's only a crime if you act on those feelings and thoughts in a harmful way. |
JoshMay 15, 2013 12:23 AM
LoneWolf said: @Josh makes me sad to call myself Canadian. |
May 15, 2013 12:19 AM
#110
Araby said: katsucats said: I don't get it.Stop contradicting yourself. |
May 15, 2013 12:20 AM
#111
Because derailing is fun apparently .-. idk |
May 15, 2013 12:29 AM
#112
So by saying ''as a straight man'' is to somehow express yourself in a homophobic manner? I am confused on so many levels. |
May 15, 2013 12:34 AM
#113
PCfags can't handle things like that, Gay people can declare themselves gay from the mountain-tops, they can jump with joy and start their sentences with "as a gay man" - but when a straight man does it...damn shit gets serious (and they stop reading your posts because you've triggered their PCignorance flag) Once this happens they feel all righteous about themselves. |
May 15, 2013 12:36 AM
#114
hahah, oh well. This thread was fun while it lasted. Arararraragi-kun said: Because derailing is fun |
May 15, 2013 12:51 AM
#116
Well, that was an interesting discussion on rape. I think? Hmm. |
May 15, 2013 12:52 AM
#117
Arararraragi-kun said: Clearly you don't have a solid understanding of death if you believe that you know that you don't fear death without ever having actually faced a situation in which you believed you would certainly die ... Just trust me on this one, death is ALOT scarier than you think it is, fear of death is so heavily ingrained in your subconscious I could list a plethora of actions you take in your daily life that are made due to this fear of death, whether you realize and accept this fear or believe "I'm no coward, and I'm not an idiot that just says I don't fear death, I really don't fear death", it doesn't change the fact that anyone (who does not have a psychological condition) fears death ... It's great that you think your different and all, but you are a human right? Last time I checked humans are still animals, and based on this knowledge you can reason that just like any other animal, you are gonna fight pretty fucking hard to stay alive once actually put in a life or death situation.Pirating_Ninja said: Saying that you would prefer death over something is honestly not something one can say seriously unless they have truly faced their own mortality, alot of people never actually face their own mortality and due to this don't know the fear of death (it's actually very difficult for humans to wrap their minds around the concept of death) ... Trust me, their is almost no situation where you wouldn't be clinging on the the hope that you will live ... if you can name such situations where you would rather die (unless extremely gruesome) and aren't just talking out of your ass, then you should probably seek psychological help since you would also be admitting to being at high risk of committing suicide or stuff like that. Nope I am more than okay about the concept of death and I don't have to face death situation to realize that , in my mind there a lot worse things in life than death. |
May 15, 2013 12:59 AM
#118
MellowJello said: Well, that was an interesting discussion on rape. I think? Hmm. I like how it went from what you'd hate more than death to political correctness. |
May 15, 2013 12:59 AM
#119
Woah Woah ...step back for a second, what if he's gone through intense training in the mountains, wrestled bears and stuff, slowly eliminated his fear of death to the point where he crosses roads like Chuck Norris following the I'll cross whenever I fucking want CODE. |
May 15, 2013 1:02 AM
#120
That is actually a good example of a fear of death, something as simple as "crossing the road" ... It is illogical that you would waste even a minute of your precious time for the crosswalk light to signal you to go if you didn't fear death. If you truly did not fear death, even the slightest, you would not waste your time and just cross, after all worst case scenario, you get hit and die, but that is not something you are afraid of happening. |
May 15, 2013 1:04 AM
#121
Pirating_Ninja said: Clearly you don't have a solid understanding of death if you believe that you know that you don't fear death without ever having actually faced a situation in which you believed you would certainly die ... Just trust me on this one, death is ALOT scarier than you think it is, fear of death is so heavily ingrained in your subconscious I could list a plethora of actions you take in your daily life that are made due to this fear of death, whether you realize and accept this fear or believe "I'm no coward, and I'm not an idiot that just says I don't fear death, I really don't fear death", it doesn't change the fact that anyone (who does not have a psychological condition) fears death ... It's great that you think your different and all, but you are a human right? Last time I checked humans are still animals, and based on this knowledge you can reason that just like any other animal, you are gonna fight pretty fucking hard to stay alive once actually put in a life or death situation. there is a difference between fearing death and preferring not to die one doesnt necessarily need to have faced life-threatening situation in order to truly not fear death |
May 15, 2013 1:05 AM
#122
Best generalization today by Pirating_ninja. |
May 15, 2013 1:10 AM
#123
Amadyeus said: Best generalization today by Pirating_ninja. Showing 0 proficiency in basic Psychology or Biology ... Should I give you an award for being ignorant? Perhaps illiterate since it isn't like "It's natural to subconsciously fear death" is a big secret hidden in only the deepest and darkest dungeons of the world ... -_- ... Intellect takes a brutal blow this day indeed. RandomChampion said: Pirating_Ninja said: Clearly you don't have a solid understanding of death if you believe that you know that you don't fear death without ever having actually faced a situation in which you believed you would certainly die ... Just trust me on this one, death is ALOT scarier than you think it is, fear of death is so heavily ingrained in your subconscious I could list a plethora of actions you take in your daily life that are made due to this fear of death, whether you realize and accept this fear or believe "I'm no coward, and I'm not an idiot that just says I don't fear death, I really don't fear death", it doesn't change the fact that anyone (who does not have a psychological condition) fears death ... It's great that you think your different and all, but you are a human right? Last time I checked humans are still animals, and based on this knowledge you can reason that just like any other animal, you are gonna fight pretty fucking hard to stay alive once actually put in a life or death situation. there is a difference between fearing death and preferring not to die one doesnt necessarily need to have faced life-threatening situation in order to truly not fear death I would like to clarify this, have a life threatening experience will NOT cure you of any type of fear of death, it in fact very well could instill a greater and more present fear in death within your daily life ... However, just as a rabbit runs at the site of you, humans to will fear death, of course our instincts are less apparent in every day life since there is no looming threat of death every day ... However to think that in a situation where you would choose death over life based on an assumption made while in the security of your own home, this is just arrogance and ignorance formed by not truly understanding the fear of death. |
Pirating_NinjaMay 15, 2013 1:15 AM
May 15, 2013 1:12 AM
#124
Pirating_Ninja said: That is actually a good example of a fear of death, something as simple as "crossing the road" ... It is illogical that you would waste even a minute of your precious time for the crosswalk light to signal you to go if you didn't fear death. If you truly did not fear death, even the slightest, you would not waste your time and just cross, after all worst case scenario, you get hit and die, but that is not something you are afraid of happening. |
May 15, 2013 1:12 AM
#125
Pirating_Ninja said: That is actually a good example of a fear of death, something as simple as "crossing the road" ... It is illogical that you would waste even a minute of your precious time for the crosswalk light to signal you to go if you didn't fear death. If you truly did not fear death, even the slightest, you would not waste your time and just cross, after all worst case scenario, you get hit and die, but that is not something you are afraid of happening. Le sigh. Stop confusing self preservation with fear of death. |
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May 15, 2013 1:13 AM
#126
Pirating_Ninja said: I'm not the ignorant one, boy. Your fancy words won't change that fact.Amadyeus said: Best generalization today by Pirating_ninja. Showing 0 proficiency in basic Psychology or Biology ... Should I give you an award for being ignorant? Perhaps illiterate since it isn't like "It's natural to subconsciously fear death" is a big secret hidden in only the deepest and darkest dungeons of the world ... -_- ... Intellect takes a brutal blow this day indeed. |
May 15, 2013 1:14 AM
#127
Amadyeus said: Pirating_Ninja said: I'm not the ignorant one, boy.Amadyeus said: Best generalization today by Pirating_ninja. Showing 0 proficiency in basic Psychology or Biology ... Should I give you an award for being ignorant? Perhaps illiterate since it isn't like "It's natural to subconsciously fear death" is a big secret hidden in only the deepest and darkest dungeons of the world ... -_- ... Intellect takes a brutal blow this day indeed. hey hey let's not be racist here. |
May 15, 2013 1:15 AM
#128
Fapdus said: hey hey let's not be racist here. Yes, quite clearly the prejudice of today is homophobia! Get with it people. |
May 15, 2013 1:16 AM
#129
May 15, 2013 1:18 AM
#130
Amadyeus said: Pirating_Ninja said: I'm not the ignorant one, boy. Your fancy words won't change that fact.Amadyeus said: Best generalization today by Pirating_ninja. Showing 0 proficiency in basic Psychology or Biology ... Should I give you an award for being ignorant? Perhaps illiterate since it isn't like "It's natural to subconsciously fear death" is a big secret hidden in only the deepest and darkest dungeons of the world ... -_- ... Intellect takes a brutal blow this day indeed. Fancy? ... None of those words exceeded a 5th grade reading level, it is clear having a discussion with a child is a waste of time .... |
May 15, 2013 1:19 AM
#131
Good one. |
May 15, 2013 1:20 AM
#132
Amadyeus said: Good one. Can I also note that using a condescending tone (the use of "boy") and at the same time bitching about someone using "fancy" words ... is like ... retarded? You implied you were older/wiser and yet felt that words of a 5th grade vocabulary (probably lower to be honest, sure the Harry Potter books use a more colorful vocabulary, and that was 1st grade) were too "fancy" ... Just saying. |
May 15, 2013 1:22 AM
#133
I implied quite a lot of things apparently. |
May 15, 2013 1:24 AM
#134
Pirating_Ninja said: Arararraragi-kun said: Clearly you don't have a solid understanding of death if you believe that you know that you don't fear death without ever having actually faced a situation in which you believed you would certainly die ... Just trust me on this one, death is ALOT scarier than you think it is, fear of death is so heavily ingrained in your subconscious I could list a plethora of actions you take in your daily life that are made due to this fear of death, whether you realize and accept this fear or believe "I'm no coward, and I'm not an idiot that just says I don't fear death, I really don't fear death", it doesn't change the fact that anyone (who does not have a psychological condition) fears death ... It's great that you think your different and all, but you are a human right? Last time I checked humans are still animals, and based on this knowledge you can reason that just like any other animal, you are gonna fight pretty fucking hard to stay alive once actually put in a life or death situation.Pirating_Ninja said: Saying that you would prefer death over something is honestly not something one can say seriously unless they have truly faced their own mortality, alot of people never actually face their own mortality and due to this don't know the fear of death (it's actually very difficult for humans to wrap their minds around the concept of death) ... Trust me, their is almost no situation where you wouldn't be clinging on the the hope that you will live ... if you can name such situations where you would rather die (unless extremely gruesome) and aren't just talking out of your ass, then you should probably seek psychological help since you would also be admitting to being at high risk of committing suicide or stuff like that. Nope I am more than okay about the concept of death and I don't have to face death situation to realize that , in my mind there a lot worse things in life than death. I understand the concept of death and why people fear it so much , it is the end of one existence after all. I already know that it's engraved in my subconscious whether I like it or not and I probably behave on my survival instincts if I were to face a certain death situation. I am saying I am not afraid of death meaning if I somehow found out today that I am certain to day after x days I wouldn't be paranoid , anxious or sad/depressed to hear that news if anything I will be a little happy and relieved and certainly would choose it instead of going through one of the things I listed. |
May 15, 2013 1:26 AM
#135
Arararraragi-kun said: Pirating_Ninja said: Arararraragi-kun said: Clearly you don't have a solid understanding of death if you believe that you know that you don't fear death without ever having actually faced a situation in which you believed you would certainly die ... Just trust me on this one, death is ALOT scarier than you think it is, fear of death is so heavily ingrained in your subconscious I could list a plethora of actions you take in your daily life that are made due to this fear of death, whether you realize and accept this fear or believe "I'm no coward, and I'm not an idiot that just says I don't fear death, I really don't fear death", it doesn't change the fact that anyone (who does not have a psychological condition) fears death ... It's great that you think your different and all, but you are a human right? Last time I checked humans are still animals, and based on this knowledge you can reason that just like any other animal, you are gonna fight pretty fucking hard to stay alive once actually put in a life or death situation.Pirating_Ninja said: Saying that you would prefer death over something is honestly not something one can say seriously unless they have truly faced their own mortality, alot of people never actually face their own mortality and due to this don't know the fear of death (it's actually very difficult for humans to wrap their minds around the concept of death) ... Trust me, their is almost no situation where you wouldn't be clinging on the the hope that you will live ... if you can name such situations where you would rather die (unless extremely gruesome) and aren't just talking out of your ass, then you should probably seek psychological help since you would also be admitting to being at high risk of committing suicide or stuff like that. Nope I am more than okay about the concept of death and I don't have to face death situation to realize that , in my mind there a lot worse things in life than death. I understand the concept of death and why people fear it so much , it is the end of one existence after all. I already know that it's engraved in my subconscious whether I like it or not and I probably behave on my survival instincts if I were to face a certain death situation. I am saying I am not afraid of death meaning if I somehow found out today that I am certain to day after x days I wouldn't be paranoid , anxious or sad/depressed to hear that news if anything I will be a little happy and relieved and certainly would choose it instead of going through one of the things I listed. Ok you do seem to get it ... But why the Orphan one? Simple curiosity to be honest, that one was rather ... out of place. (also when faced w/ mortality usually people will go through different stages of emotions ... though this can vary from person to person, you probably would to some degree go through a depression, or even anger but that is beside the point) |
May 15, 2013 1:27 AM
#136
Flame war of the night, I see. Keep on fistin'. (I'm going to be miswording common phrases. It's gonna be all the rage in a week or so.) |
May 15, 2013 1:28 AM
#137
Hahah |
May 15, 2013 1:28 AM
#138
The orphan one does seem out of place idk I am not sure about it as I was when I was younger, I think from the ones listed I would be able to adapt to it the most. |
May 15, 2013 4:23 AM
#140
The only thing I can think of would be something like Locked-in syndrome. That would suck. |
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May 15, 2013 5:40 AM
#141
im a 100% complete heterosexual male what did i miss |
May 15, 2013 5:46 AM
#142
Kinda biased since I would throw my life away for most anything. But in these situations it kind of depends. I am assuming after the torture I live a normal life right? Or am i just going to die anyways from the torture. Cause fuck that. Past that, lifetime imprisonment would probably be the only one. Already been down the homeless route, so I know how to deal with it if it ever occurred again. Modern medicine is pretty crazy so being blind/paralyzed/whatever won't be nearly as shitty as it should be. And if I lose my limbs I can be a spicy male lead for the imminent katawa shounen. |
May 15, 2013 6:10 AM
#143
yeah i would. death isn't the worst that can happen |
May 15, 2013 8:30 AM
#144
Yes is only 68.85% , Kinda expected more. Some people value their lives more than others? |
May 15, 2013 8:37 AM
#145
I would never ''Choose death'' unless I'm going to die anyway because of the torture or something. Couldn't do that to my parents and family, not in any situation. I guess I will just have to deal with it. |
May 15, 2013 8:41 AM
#146
Ehh I can think of a number of things. |
May 15, 2013 8:50 AM
#147
sippychao said: I would never ''Choose death'' unless I'm going to die anyway because of the torture or something. Couldn't do that to my parents and family, not in any situation. I guess I will just have to deal with it. That's your reason for not choosing death..? What if they all secretly hate you and would abandon you when you in a shitty situation ( becoming blind , disabled , homeless , etc )? Now what? |
May 15, 2013 10:34 AM
#148
Ntad said: "Hey Mom! Guess what? I decided it'd be better off if I were dead than have to see you go through any kind of crisis or harrowing ordeal! Isn't that great?! I take the easy way out and you still have to deal with whatever it is YOU'RE dealing with PLUS the grief you'll end up having to suffer over my death! No thanks needed, it's all because I love you so much!" Best gift ever. you seem quite passionate about your response. selfish? maybe, but my answer remains. i still couldn't take it. Ever stop to think how i would feel if my mother was being raped or tortured and i didn't intervene? its really not a win-win situation either way |
May 15, 2013 12:01 PM
#149
Arararraragi-kun said: sippychao said: I would never ''Choose death'' unless I'm going to die anyway because of the torture or something. Couldn't do that to my parents and family, not in any situation. I guess I will just have to deal with it. That's your reason for not choosing death..? What if they all secretly hate you and would abandon you when you in a shitty situation ( becoming blind , disabled , homeless , etc )? Now what? That is being rather suspicious of my own family I love so much, even then I would consider myself a better person by doing the opposite. I still think choosing death is rather a easy excuse than anything else. |
May 15, 2013 12:07 PM
#150
With my current mindset I would say no I would never choose abandon life no matter how dim the light of hope is but I have no idea whether I would be able keep this attitude during a mental breakdown from one of those situations. |
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