Pandarenboy said: Maybe something like this: Think that you are watching a... Epic fantasy/Adventure Anime like Fairy Tail, then at the end of the story you will see that Natsu and Lucy get together or some sad ending... then the next episode youl learn that everything that happened was a story in some book that some random fodder kept reading and the book was simply fictional and not based on anything. The end. Or like the Manga for Katekyo Hitman Reborn; 400 chapters of shounen nonsense, you learn that it never got anywhere with ending that's just: ok so the mafia thing=ruined, last fight=shit and characters=underdeveloped, ending=can't get more crappy even if you wanted it to and makes you feel like it was waste of time to read it and would have been better to not finish the manga KHR fans dont have to live in the anguish for too long anymore though because even a crappy ending can bring forth a new beginning. I think it is up to the reader to define small. If small things you mean: Fillers, Unneeded parts, just random things, then no, it can't ruin it, but it is main reason it can't be perfect. |
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| The believability factor for me. Bouts of absurdity will swiftly and abruptly sever any vicarious connection I develop with the story or characters, and always leaves a bad aftertaste. No matter how good the rest of the anime is, absurdity destroys it. |
FauxAznMar 31, 2013 11:03 AM
lupadimMar 31, 2013 11:16 AM
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| The believability factor for me |
| If I'm not really feeling it for the characters, then yeah, I tend to not enjoy my watching experience. |
 Just this once, I'll fulfill whatever your wish is. |
lupadim said: Spoiler your stuff genius. |
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tsudecimo said: lupadim said: Spoiler your stuff genius. Thus why I don't feel inclined to watch |
Just this once, I'll fulfill whatever your wish is. |
tsudecimo said: lupadim said: Spoiler your stuff genius. The amazing thing here is he considers that a "small thing" -__-. |
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Pandarenboy said: FauxAzn said: 1 of the main things that make me hate unbeliveable things in anime are mostly when the cute girl tries to walk and then falls face flat to the ground and gets up and is like "eheheheh" when she should be crying and missing a teeth.The believability factor for me. Bouts of absurdity will swiftly and abruptly sever any vicarious connection I develop with the story or characters, and always leaves a bad aftertaste, no matter how good the rest of the anime was. Lies. When moe girls fall they should go plop. Like a marshmallow. |
Tavor said: tsudecimo said: lupadim said: Spoiler your stuff genius. Thus why I don't feel inclined to watch I still think you should give it a try , sometimes it is the events that led to that matter more than the actual thing. |
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| Inb4 Dub vs Subs. |
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| Horrible dubs ruin Anime every now and then, eg. Death Note |
natssuu said: Horrible dubs ruin Anime every now and then, eg. Death Note I dunno, Death Note had a pretty good dub, not as good as the Japanese though. A better example would be One Piece and 4Kids. |
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natssuu said: Horrible dubs ruin Anime every now and then, eg. Death Note The only dub that I ever liked(Yeah I'm a sub guy) was Death Note and a lot of people share my opinion.Fuck us,right? |
tsudecimo said: Tavor said: tsudecimo said: lupadim said: Spoiler your stuff genius. Thus why I don't feel inclined to watch I still think you should give it a try , sometimes it is the events that led to that matter more than the actual thing. Fair enough point, but nevertheless, I lose motivation I originally had when I read such things that aren't spoiler tagged. I'll get around to it, eventually... |
Just this once, I'll fulfill whatever your wish is. |
| Unanswered questions at the end of the anime. |
yhunata said: natssuu said: Horrible dubs ruin Anime every now and then, eg. Death Note I dunno, Death Note had a pretty good dub, not as good as the Japanese though. A better example would be One Piece and 4Kids. MaxY- said: natssuu said: Horrible dubs ruin Anime every now and then, eg. Death Note The only dub that I ever liked(Yeah I'm a sub guy) was Death Note and a lot of people share my opinion.Fuck us,right? All the minor characters sounded so goddamn dead, and Light overdramatizes every single thing, let's compare japanese version to english version English version. (Skip to 0.30) I seriously thought this was fandubbed scene, horrible voice acting Japanese version |
Doesn't matter,pleased the fangirls.It isn't great but it's still the only dub that I liked(that tells you just how much dubs I have watched). |
MaxY- said: Doesn't matter,pleased the fangirls.It isn't great but it's still the only dub that I liked(that tells you just how much dubs I have watched). Check out Baccano! It has what I would call excellent english dubbing. |
| Small things can pile up and drop the score by some points. But what you mentioned are not small things at all, they're big. What I consider small stuff are for instance, Yayoi in Psycho-Pass having an episode for her backstory, but she's totally a filler character through the whole series. Or Kiritsugu in Fate/Zero (season 1) calling out Kayneth instead of firing at him from behind when they're inside his mansion. Those are minor stuff, just some botherings that aren't enough to drop the score alone, much less ruin the entire anime. |
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Litrydow said: Small things can pile up and drop the score by some points. But what you mentioned are not small things at all, they're big. What I consider small stuff are for instance, Yayoi in Psycho-Pass having an episode for her backstory, but she's totally a filler character through the whole series. Or Kiritsugu in Fate/Zero (season 1) calling out Kayneth instead of firing at him from behind when they're inside his mansion. Those are minor stuff, just some botherings that aren't enough to drop the score alone, much less ruin the entire anime. About the F/Z one, I was thinking about that too. |
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| I guess small things can ruin an anime in the eyes of a small person |
| sexual incest in nisomonogatari - no one bats an eye romance incest in SAO - everyone loses their minds |
| Characters and unsatisfying endings |
| I guess. The ending can definitely sour my opinion of a a show, for instance, I don't consider that kind of thing "small" though, in fact it's pretty important. Small things for me would be stuff like: Ignoring physics in an imaginary world such as anime because they don't really matter anyway Really strange or ugly character designs Use of filming techniques I don't like such as shaky cam or grainy video |
KruszerMar 31, 2013 1:21 PM
| "The name's Gambit. Remember it." -Gambit "X-Men '97"  |
yhunata said: natssuu said: Horrible dubs ruin Anime every now and then, eg. Death Note I dunno, Death Note had a pretty good dub, not as good as the Japanese though. A better example would be One Piece and 4Kids. I'll take a potato chips... huff... huff... AND EAT IT! |
Sh0wdown said: Small things, like Panties, really do ruin some animes, ie: HOTD. Small things in great numbers. Not sure if you can count that as small overall. And to the thread title question, yes, minor things can ruin a anime, not as a whole but at the very least lower your personal score you gave it. Soul Eaters ending for example. That one punch was all it needed. |
| Like an apple falling from a tree and killing your favorite character?, small things can lead too major plot changes. change and ruin are different things but some people don't like change and so they see it as ruin so I suppose yes would be the right answer |
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| I don't think nudism in an anime will ruin it. Actually, I simply HATE when an female character gets naked and something is covering her parts. Come on, when this situation happens usually the anime is not for children, so why censoring. Through parts where they throw boobs at your face for no reason is also bad |
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SetsukoHara said: yhunata said: natssuu said: Horrible dubs ruin Anime every now and then, eg. Death Note I dunno, Death Note had a pretty good dub, not as good as the Japanese though. A better example would be One Piece and 4Kids. I'll take a potato chips... huff... huff... AND EAT IT! Exactly xD |
HurricaneSweet said: natssuu said: Horrible dubs ruin Anime every now and then, eg. Death Note It had the best dub of all time. What are you talking about? :/ Haha, nice one! xD |
lupadim said: I don't think nudism in an anime will ruin it. Actually, I simply HATE when an female character gets naked and something is covering her parts. Come on, when this situation happens usually the anime is not for children, so why censoring. Through parts where they throw boobs at your face for no reason is also bad That's japan for you. They do that even with some of their actual porn&hentai too |
| sexual incest in nisomonogatari - no one bats an eye romance incest in SAO - everyone loses their minds |
| No. |
on lupadim said: Heard about Erotism you gonzwhore ?I don't think nudism in an anime will ruin it. Actually, I simply HATE when an female character gets naked and something is covering her parts. Come on, when this situation happens usually the anime is not for children, so why censoring. Through parts where they throw boobs at your face for no reason is also bad |
| My list - "Let's share our lame sides" (Danshi Koukousei no Nichijou) |
natssuu said: SetsukoHara said: yhunata said: natssuu said: Horrible dubs ruin Anime every now and then, eg. Death Note I dunno, Death Note had a pretty good dub, not as good as the Japanese though. A better example would be One Piece and 4Kids. I'll take a potato chips... huff... huff... AND EAT IT! Exactly xD Haha, totally agree, and I actually elaborated on this very scene in the op right here: http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=509875 A copy/pasta: Voice acting for anime is done prefab. That is, voice actors first record their lines to some stock sketches before scenes are fully animated. In other words, music and animation are constructed around pre-recorded dialogue. To exemplify the advantages of this production method, take the original and dubbed versions of a scene from Death Note: Dub: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vy23neI1Wno Original: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eehdWTyQrjg&feature=youtu.be&t=54s Note how the original voice’s timing seems to be in such perfect harmony with the background music and visual frame changes. On the other hand, the dub’s postfabricated voice somewhat washes over the music and frame changes, never seeming to bother really timing and intertwining itself with the other parts of the scene. The original's more seamless overall presentation is simply a result of establishing animation and music ON TOP OF voice. The other way around, as dubs are always done, loses that inherent advantage. |
| Voice acting really has never turned down an anime for me don't kill me I felt like posting in a topic that's Older. |
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| example: introduction of tentacles 1 out of 2 things will happen 1) ratings will skyrocket 2) ratings will drop |
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Cigarette said: This works too.example: introduction of yaoi 1 out of 2 things will happen 1) ratings will skyrocket 2) ratings will drop |
MellowJello said: Cigarette said: This works too.example: introduction of yaoi 1 out of 2 things will happen 1) ratings will skyrocket 2) ratings will drop omg anything can be applied here WHOOAAAAAAH |
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MellowJello said: Cigarette said: This works too.example: introduction of it deviating from the manga 1 out of 2 things will happen 1) ratings will skyrocket 2) ratings will drop As well as this. |
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| Depends on how much it effects the anime for you, but I will say small things, especially if they're a lot of them, can certainly make an anime go from great to just good. |
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| I think you stumbled onto a pretty good equation/template there. Even as far back as Space Ship Yamato and Mobile Suit Gundam, there's been some examples of small thing, perhaps not ruining, but definitely taking away from the overall effect of the storyline. example: Tavor said: MellowJello said: Cigarette said: This works too.example: introduction of silly robots that don't add anything to the story except comedic (not) relief 1 out of 2 things will happen 1) ratings will skyrocket 2) ratings will drop As well as this. |
bakashimizu said: Tavor said: MellowJello said: Cigarette said: This works too.example: introduction of Inferno Cop 1 out of 2 things will happen 1) ratings will skyrocket 2) ratings will skyrocket even more As well as this. This system is flawless. |
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| I read on the forums here that the KHR manga was axed because of low ratings and the author was in fact preparing for another arc. Sucks that the Vongola XV is only a one-shot for the upcoming Jump Vs. |
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| example: introduction of harem lead 1 out of 3 things will happen 1) ratings will drop 2) ratings will drop even more 3) Wild Red_KeysMod appears |
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| Or... introduction of rotoscoping real people 1 one of two things will happen: 1)ratings will drop 2)ratings will drop |
Just this once, I'll fulfill whatever your wish is. |
| God-awful English dubs can sometimes ruin it for me. Higurashi, for instance. I love that anime, but I cannot listen to it in English. UGH, what a nightmare. Also, rotoscoping, because bandwagons are fun. |
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