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Mar 20, 2013 11:49 PM
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And so ends probably my favorite battle of JJBA so far. That was awesome and it didn't even involve Gio.
"Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job."

- Geralt of Rivia
May 26, 2014 6:40 PM
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A new Stand named Baby Face with a new user. Wow. And this guy talks in a pretty casual way. I'm interested to see what his motives are.
Aug 23, 2015 4:14 AM
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And so ends probably my favorite battle of JJBA so far.


Honestly, this. I loved a *lot* of JoJo battles in the past, especially in part 4 (though it's questionable whether or not some of those are "battles") but I think this may have just topped all of them. I'm kind of blown away by how much I loved this. I actually felt my heart racing during this fight, multiple times & the strategies, particularly everything once Bruno joined the fray was amazing. Even if they were simple tricks like how Buccellati used Beach Boy to twist Pesci's neck, it was awesome, clever & satisfying.

& let's talk about Pesci & Prosciutto because they are two of the best villains in JoJo's Bizarre Adventure. Yes, I'm serious. Most JoJo villains are just that, villains. In part 4 a lot of them reform in subsequent chapters but the norm villain is just usually one shade of dick with very little reason to care about them individually. Which is fine, you don't need depth in these villains but that doesn't mean it isn't nice when we get some. Boingo was given some, mostly for a punchline but it was nice and made him one of my favorites but these two, aren't given a lot but it's something that makes them feel real. Neither are good on their own, it's their relationship that makes them some of the most likable JoJo villains along with two of the most memorable. Even with the physical abuse, it's clear that both of them do in fact care for each-other & that care is what ends up making Pesci such a threat in the later chapters. I didn't feel particularly sad when his brother died (& I think it's just a mafia family thing rather than a blood bond but it doesn't matter) because they're still the bad guys but they carry a dynamic that made this battle even more enjoyable. It's the final ingredient to why this is my favorite fight in JJBA or at least in the top two or three.

Also, I didn't comment on it earlier but I got a real good laugh when Pesci stepped on that old guy's neck. I'm a troubled individual.
Mar 6, 2017 8:04 AM
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A pitiful end for Pesci but I was still impress with his overall character. He definitely became one of my personal favourite JoJo villains.
Apr 9, 2017 1:08 AM
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There are 3 people fighting outside, 100 bystanders death (probably the blood went to outside, there's a possibility)...
And he immediately knew it's Bruno's blood
Wow
I'm impressed, I'm sure it's his blood 100% not others or at least a little bit mixed in there xD

Well that's really a creepy STANDO
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May 31, 2019 5:25 AM
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This is legitimately one of the best fights in JoJo so far. I'm impressed.
Feb 16, 2020 7:50 AM
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Pesci's resolve had turned into a vile desperation to get back at Bruno for beating him. He might've tricked his opponent and got as far as to wrap everyone's necks with the very line that broke his neck but Sticky Fingers' speed and range made all of that futile.

ARI ARI ARI ARRIVEDERCI!
That beatdown was very cool but Prosciutto dying the moment his partner got torn into pieces was a tragic moment, that's for sure.

Trish's Stand is coming soon and No.6 remembering Mista only now was a very funny moment.








Oct 16, 2020 12:06 AM
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A part of me feels like every single fight in Vento Aureo lives up to the best in Stardust Crusaders. We never know if the enemy we are going to run into, no matter if they show up one single time, will feature a 12 part epic of teamwork, resolve, and sacrifice.

I began thinking of this as too much of a good thing, whereas there was always a formulaic fight in Stardust Crusaders, they were simple and short enough to give us constant breathers. Vento Aureo on the other hand can quickly swap between fight to fight in a way which is complicated, heavy in tone, and long every time. It can leave me wishing for a breather. Further, it made me worried that, if every fight feels as important as Man in the Mirror or Grateful Dead especially, that the genuine climactic fights will feel less impressive and meaningful.

On the contrary however, by the end of this fight I was more engaged than I usually am. It was full of amazing tricks, Mista and later Buccelati engaging in the most unique long range combat I have ever seen. Buccelati also used Sticky Fingers in tandem with Beach Boy brilliantly. But for me, the moment I was fully engaged was when I saw the resolve burning on both sides. From Mista's sacrifice, sending a message to Buccelati to continue with the fight, and Buccelati diving off the train with Prosci in hand. From Prosci mangling himself in the train and refusing to drop Grateful Dead, Pesci leveling up as if this was a video game boss fight and becoming a total man, refusing to let his efforts die in vain. When all of their spirits were highlighted like this, a battle full of sacrifice on both sides, that is when Buccelati and Pesci started their final battle of resolve.

A dance between the two commenced, leading to Buccelati cutting his entire body into pieces, a display evoking one of my favorite scenes in all of Jojo, Jotaro's heart stop. Quite symbolic of the reader, as at the very least my heart was stopped as well making for the most tense moment of p5 to come.

With all of this in mind, the sheer grit and manliness of both of these opponents carried on the back of their brothers, while Buccelati stands face to face with Pesci and the sun is setting behind them made this battle feel paramount. A far cry from the exhaustion I felt at the beginning of the arc. All while I couldn't help but chuckle at the fact that I was watching a man who looks like a carrot and fights with a fishing rod stand off against a lad who can make zippers. Araki is a genius and anything can be badass if you want it to be.

I don't feel a need to summarize the rest of this fight, all of what I wanted to say has already been stated. That is why I'll instead look again at this group of traitors as a villain group. While none of them feel especially interesting on their own, their sheer resolve and sense of revenge for one another, keeping in mind the fact that they share the same goal of taking down the boss, probably makes them one of my favorites in the series. They may be scumbags, but as Buccelati saw for a moment, deep down they can be admirable warriors. They are a mirror of our cast, it seemed Pesci was even a new kid like Giorno, and in a hypothetical reality, one could imagine watching the story from their perspective. I think that's really awesome. If the boss is playing everyone like I suspect, that could kind of hurt.

So, in case it isn't clear, while the long and complicated fighting can become exhausting, it also creates something that feels excellent. A feeling between hero and villain I do not think JoJo has often engaged with on this scale. And with it, fights that are some of the most unique I have ever read in my life.

"Glory to you, Pesci"
Mar 31, 2021 3:55 PM
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YES! Bucciarati's stand cry is beautiful and this was a solid conclusion to a good battle




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Oct 23, 2024 4:05 AM
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one of the peak fights from this part bucciarati so epic
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