Spirited Away is the only anime to win an Oscar, what other anime movies would you consider Oscar-worthy?

Dec 19, 2012 11:33 AM

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Red_Keys said:

DateYutaka said:

Red_Keys said:

DateYutaka said:
i have my reasons why i think Oscars are a joke and there puly artistic

The entertainment industry is purely artistic.

if you want me to give my reasons for My views i will

No, don't waste your breath. I don't really care.

It's just that saying that the Oscars are a joke because they are "purely artistic" is a dumb thing to say, because the entire entertainment industry is purely artistic.

Kinda like saying that the Super bowl is a joke because it is too sporty. Makes no sense.

Since when has he ever made sense?

Dec 19, 2012 11:42 AM

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Red_Keys said:

DateYutaka said:

Red_Keys said:

DateYutaka said:
i have my reasons why i think Oscars are a joke and there puly artistic

The entertainment industry is purely artistic.

if you want me to give my reasons for My views i will

No, don't waste your breath. I don't really care.

It's just that saying that the Oscars are a joke because they are "purely artistic" is a dumb thing to say, because the entire entertainment industry is purely artistic.

Kinda like saying that the Super bowl is a joke because it is too sporty. Makes no sense.

I think he's implying that they aren't purely artistic, that it's more about popularity and money.

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Dec 19, 2012 11:46 AM

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Red_Keys said:

DateYutaka said:

Red_Keys said:

DateYutaka said:
i have my reasons why i think Oscars are a joke and there puly artistic

The entertainment industry is purely artistic.

if you want me to give my reasons for My views i will

No, don't waste your breath. I don't really care.

It's just that saying that the Oscars are a joke because they are "purely artistic" is a dumb thing to say, because the entire entertainment industry is purely artistic.

Kinda like saying that the Super bowl is a joke because it is too sporty. Makes no sense.

my main reasons for Hating them and thinking there a Joke are Purely Artistic Reasons
more wothy film awards are
the
Gran Prix [ Cannes]
the Palme Do'r
the jury award better know as th golden lotus [ Hong kong]

all three of these really judge international Films not under Joke Catagors like Best Forigian Film
and
the best director Oscar is the single biggest joke in the world

and when the best Movie ever made did not win best Picture yes that a Joke

"If you tremble with indignation at every injustice, then you are a comrade of mine"

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Yet what force on earth is weaker than the feeble strength of one
For the Union makes us strong

Dec 19, 2012 11:48 AM

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"K-ON movie" ...

Maybe Tekkon Kinkreet or Millennium Actress? Nothing comes to mind as definitely Oscar worthy.

JoshDec 19, 2012 11:52 AM

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@Josh makes me sad to call myself Canadian.

Dec 19, 2012 11:50 AM

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DateYutaka said:

Red_Keys said:

DateYutaka said:

Red_Keys said:

DateYutaka said:
i have my reasons why i think Oscars are a joke and there puly artistic

The entertainment industry is purely artistic.

if you want me to give my reasons for My views i will

No, don't waste your breath. I don't really care.

It's just that saying that the Oscars are a joke because they are "purely artistic" is a dumb thing to say, because the entire entertainment industry is purely artistic.

Kinda like saying that the Super bowl is a joke because it is too sporty. Makes no sense.

my main reasons for Hating them and thinking there a Joke are Purely Artistic Reasons
more wothy film awards are
the
Gran Prix [ Cannes]
the Palme Do'r
the jury award better know as th golden lotus [ Hong kong]

all three of these really judge international Films not under Joke Catagors like Best Forigian Film
and
the best director Oscar is the single biggest joke in the world

and when the best Movie ever made did not win best Picture yes that a Joke

Can you retype that? Except this time have it make sense and be coherent?

mitch3315 said:
Since when has he ever made sense?

No kidding

IntroverTurtle said:
I think he's implying that they aren't purely artistic, that it's more about popularity and money.

Well, first off, he should have said that then, and second, he would be wrong.

Dec 19, 2012 11:52 AM

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Red_Keys said:

DateYutaka said:

Red_Keys said:

DateYutaka said:

Red_Keys said:

DateYutaka said:
i have my reasons why i think Oscars are a joke and there puly artistic

The entertainment industry is purely artistic.

if you want me to give my reasons for My views i will

No, don't waste your breath. I don't really care.

It's just that saying that the Oscars are a joke because they are "purely artistic" is a dumb thing to say, because the entire entertainment industry is purely artistic.

Kinda like saying that the Super bowl is a joke because it is too sporty. Makes no sense.

my main reasons for Hating them and thinking there a Joke are Purely Artistic Reasons
more wothy film awards are
the
Gran Prix [ Cannes]
the Palme Do'r
the jury award better know as th golden lotus [ Hong kong]

all three of these really judge international Films not under Joke Catagors like Best Forigian Film
and
the best director Oscar is the single biggest joke in the world

and when the best Movie ever made did not win best Picture yes that a Joke

Can you retype that? Except this time have it make sense and be coherent?

mitch3315 said:
Since when has he ever made sense?

No kidding

IntroverTurtle said:
I think he's implying that they aren't purely artistic, that it's more about popularity and money.

Well, first off, he should have said that then, and second, he would be wrong.

Right bring up a list of the last 15 best picture winners vs the last 15 Gran Prix winners
to prove my point

"If you tremble with indignation at every injustice, then you are a comrade of mine"

When the union's inspiration through the workers' blood shall run
There can be no power greater anywhere beneath the sun
Yet what force on earth is weaker than the feeble strength of one
For the Union makes us strong

Dec 19, 2012 11:58 AM

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DateYutaka said:

Right bring up a list of the last 15 best picture winners vs the last 15 Gran Prix winners
to prove my point

For your information:

For the Cannes Film Festival: Palme d'Or>Grand Prix.

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Dec 19, 2012 12:00 PM

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SetsukoHara said:

DateYutaka said:

Right bring up a list of the last 15 best picture winners vs the last 15 Gran Prix winners
to prove my point

For your information:

For the Cannes Film Festival: Palme d'Or>Grand Prix.

sorry i always thouth Palme d'Or was venice
but my point still stands
About list of winners does it not

"If you tremble with indignation at every injustice, then you are a comrade of mine"

When the union's inspiration through the workers' blood shall run
There can be no power greater anywhere beneath the sun
Yet what force on earth is weaker than the feeble strength of one
For the Union makes us strong

Dec 19, 2012 12:04 PM

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I rarely watch American movies, let alone international movies, but some of the Palme d'Or winners sound really interesting. Might have to pick a few up and/or download.

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@Josh makes me sad to call myself Canadian.

Dec 19, 2012 12:09 PM

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Nice example
Grand prix 2003 Old boy
Best Picture 2003 The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King

what is the better Adaption Old Boy[ iv read both sources]
what Drew more Mony LOTR RoTK
what better got the oscer LOTR RoTK
Conicedence

"If you tremble with indignation at every injustice, then you are a comrade of mine"

When the union's inspiration through the workers' blood shall run
There can be no power greater anywhere beneath the sun
Yet what force on earth is weaker than the feeble strength of one
For the Union makes us strong

Dec 19, 2012 12:26 PM

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You have a very strange obsession with whether or not something is "a good adaptation", which is in and of itself a sketchy concept. Can you ever just enjoy something for what it is?

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@Josh makes me sad to call myself Canadian.

Dec 19, 2012 12:29 PM

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Coincidence? Yes.

The Artist - Box office: $133,432,856
Awards won: Best Picture, Best Director, Best Actor, Best Original Score, Best Costume Design

Black Swan - Box office: $329,398,046
Awards won: Best Actress

Transformers 3 - Box office: $1,123,746,996
Awards won: Nothing

The amount of money a film made, or it's popularity, is not taken into consideration.

And you think it is dumb because the films you like more don't win. That's what I'm getting from your posts. Well that seems kind of selfish and egotistical. But then again, it is your personal opinion, who am I to say that you are wrong?

Dec 19, 2012 12:32 PM

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They won't award animated features from outside of US.

Dec 19, 2012 12:34 PM

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Post-Josh said:
You have a very strange obsession with whether or not something is "a good adaptation". Can you ever just enjoy something for what it is?

if its not good adaptation why put the name of the source in the title if its not Just a Cash in the Name bring in the Fans of the Source

Watchmen for example how many people who are not fans of comics know that movie
or
all the Marvel or DC stuff right name me one non comic fan who knew who gwen stacy was[ or her relvence to spider-man cannon] in the new spider man movie of you were not a Fan of the Comics

BRAND NAME RECOGNITION

"If you tremble with indignation at every injustice, then you are a comrade of mine"

When the union's inspiration through the workers' blood shall run
There can be no power greater anywhere beneath the sun
Yet what force on earth is weaker than the feeble strength of one
For the Union makes us strong

Dec 19, 2012 12:34 PM

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frequency said:
They won't award animated features from outside of US.

The 75th Academy Awards would like a word with you

Dec 19, 2012 12:35 PM

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Red_Keys said:
Coincidence? Yes.

The Artist - Box office: $133,432,856
Awards won: Best Picture, Best Director, Best Actor, Best Original Score, Best Costume Design

Black Swan - Box office: $329,398,046
Awards won: Best Actress

Transformers 3 - Box office: $1,123,746,996
Awards won: Nothing

The amount of money a film made, or it's popularity, is not taken into consideration.

And you think it is dumb because the films you like more don't win. That's what I'm getting from your posts. Well that seems kind of selfish and egotistical. But then again, it is your personal opinion, who am I to say that you are wrong?

i Happen to like LOTR RoTK but over all its a Crap Adaption much like most of the Later Harry potter Movies
Side note why in the hell does a short Novel like the Hobbit need to be three Movies i could understand if itswas the other Book that that Author is famous for that cpu;ld be made in to six flims and barly be done Justice

DateYutakaDec 19, 2012 12:40 PM

"If you tremble with indignation at every injustice, then you are a comrade of mine"

When the union's inspiration through the workers' blood shall run
There can be no power greater anywhere beneath the sun
Yet what force on earth is weaker than the feeble strength of one
For the Union makes us strong

Dec 19, 2012 12:40 PM

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DateYutaka said:
Nice example
Grand prix 2003 Old boy
Best Picture 2003 The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King

what is the better Adaption Old Boy[ iv read both sources]
what Drew more Mony LOTR RoTK
what better got the oscer LOTR RoTK
Conicedence

Old Boy could only compete in the best picture in Foreign Language category. A movie that is not in English Language can't win the Best Picture award.

Love is a song

Dec 19, 2012 12:43 PM

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SetsukoHara said:

DateYutaka said:
Nice example
Grand prix 2003 Old boy
Best Picture 2003 The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King

what is the better Adaption Old Boy[ iv read both sources]
what Drew more Mony LOTR RoTK
what better got the oscer LOTR RoTK
Conicedence

Old Boy could only compete in the best picture in Foreign Language category. A movie that is not in English Language can't win the Best Picture award.

Ie its a Joke a Racist Idea The Cannes Festival a French Festival Gave it the best award

and no Old Boy was not the Movie w i was talking about when i said the Best of all time just to say

"If you tremble with indignation at every injustice, then you are a comrade of mine"

When the union's inspiration through the workers' blood shall run
There can be no power greater anywhere beneath the sun
Yet what force on earth is weaker than the feeble strength of one
For the Union makes us strong

Dec 19, 2012 12:44 PM

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DateYutaka said:
Watchmen for example how many people who are not fans of comics know that movie
or
all the Marvel or DC stuff right name me one non comic fan who knew who gwen stacy was[ or her relvence to spider-man cannon] in the new spider man movie of you were not a Fan of the Comics

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I don't read any comics and I know what Watchmen is, and I knew who Gwen Stacy was.

Dec 19, 2012 12:46 PM

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DateYutaka said:

Watchmen for example how many people who are not fans of comics know that movie

Now here's a example why you're obsession over good adaptations is bullsh*t. This movie was basically one of the best adaptations ever, but was it one of the best movies? No. Because what makes a great movie isn't always what makes a great book or comic or whatever medium you want to mention.

Dec 19, 2012 12:47 PM

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DateYutaka said:
if its not good adaptation why put the name of the source in the title if its not Just a Cash in the Name bring in the Fans of the Source

Watchmen for example how many people who are not fans of comics know that movie
or
all the Marvel or DC stuff right name me one non comic fan who knew who gwen stacy was[ or her relvence to spider-man cannon] in the new spider man movie of you were not a Fan of the Comics

BRAND NAME RECOGNITION

"If it's not a close adaptation", I think you mean. Not everyone agrees with your definition of good, including me.

And it's simple, because movie adaptations are based on the source material. Where they go from that base is completely up to those making the movie. Some stories don't naturally translate well into movie form, and thus appropriate changes can be made at the discretion of someone who knows how to make a movie, not the discretion of someone who knows how to write a book.

The brand name recognition argument is just silly. Of course adaptations cater to fans of the source material. That's often quite literally the point.

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@Josh makes me sad to call myself Canadian.

Dec 19, 2012 12:52 PM

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mitch3315 said:

DateYutaka said:
Watchmen for example how many people who are not fans of comics know that movie
or
all the Marvel or DC stuff right name me one non comic fan who knew who gwen stacy was[ or her relvence to spider-man cannon] in the new spider man movie of you were not a Fan of the Comics

BRAND NAME RECOGNITION

I don't read any comics and I know what Watchmen is, and I knew who Gwen Stacy was.

right thats a rare thing
if BRAND NAME RECOGNITION[ does not matter how come you do not see Movies of Either Big Comics events like 52 or or the Secret wars Less well know Characters [ that are done well]
Ant man Aquaman the Flash JSA Animal Man Nemor Alan Scott's lantern Arsenal[ Red Arrow] the New gods super boy prime ETC

"If you tremble with indignation at every injustice, then you are a comrade of mine"

When the union's inspiration through the workers' blood shall run
There can be no power greater anywhere beneath the sun
Yet what force on earth is weaker than the feeble strength of one
For the Union makes us strong

Dec 19, 2012 12:54 PM

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DateYutaka said:

SetsukoHara said:

DateYutaka said:
Nice example
Grand prix 2003 Old boy
Best Picture 2003 The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King

what is the better Adaption Old Boy[ iv read both sources]
what Drew more Mony LOTR RoTK
what better got the oscer LOTR RoTK
Conicedence

Old Boy could only compete in the best picture in Foreign Language category. A movie that is not in English Language can't win the Best Picture award.

Ie its a Joke a Racist Idea The Cannes Festival a French Festival Gave it the best award

and no Old Boy was not the Movie w i was talking about when i said the Best of all time just to say

No, this isn't racist. The Cannes Festival is an international Festival. The Academy awards isnt.
In France, we have the Cesar awards, in Japan, there is the Blue Ribbon Awards and the Japan Academy Prize, they worked like the Academy awards and mostly awards the local movie industry. You take the academy awards for what they aren't.

Love is a song

Dec 19, 2012 1:14 PM

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SetsukoHara said:

DateYutaka said:

SetsukoHara said:

DateYutaka said:
Nice example
Grand prix 2003 Old boy
Best Picture 2003 The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King

what is the better Adaption Old Boy[ iv read both sources]
what Drew more Mony LOTR RoTK
what better got the oscer LOTR RoTK
Conicedence

Old Boy could only compete in the best picture in Foreign Language category. A movie that is not in English Language can't win the Best Picture award.

Ie its a Joke a Racist Idea The Cannes Festival a French Festival Gave it the best award

and no Old Boy was not the Movie w i was talking about when i said the Best of all time just to say

No, this isn't racist. The Cannes Festival is an international Festival. The Academy awards isnt.
In France, we have the Cesar awards, in Japan, there is the Blue Ribbon Awards and the Japan Academy Prize, they worked like the Academy awards and mostly awards the local movie industry. You take the academy awards for what they aren't.

Hollywood is the center of the worlds flim industry according to them so should not the Biggest Awards there have more a world scope

the other Movie i was talking about was Citizen Kane

and its not Just the best Picture award i find odds with Best Director also
do not give me the line of Being nominated is good enough nope so many best Director have not won one

James Cameron who is an ok director but has won more Best Director awards than
Godard, Fellini,Kobayashi' Kurosawa, Kieślowski, Park[ Old boy], Franco and Hitchcock

iand i know ofr a fact that since they were Nominated [ minus Kobayashi witch is also a Joke] thus the old adage it is better Company in the looser ring than the winners

"If you tremble with indignation at every injustice, then you are a comrade of mine"

When the union's inspiration through the workers' blood shall run
There can be no power greater anywhere beneath the sun
Yet what force on earth is weaker than the feeble strength of one
For the Union makes us strong

Jan 25, 2013 1:00 PM

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frequency said:
They won't award animated features from outside of US.

They can and have done... but the question is has Japan made anything else up to par?

Jan 25, 2013 1:09 PM

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WHOA WHOA WHOA.

shit guys, I got NEWS.

A perfect adaptation of a great book can sometimes NOT WORK.

Because books and movies are different in structure. It's when they go off and do their own thing is when it works best on a technical level for film.

Lord of The Rings was a brilliant adaptation. Near perfect. Because the book is a completely different style and tone, and that tone simply would not work for a movie. The tone and structure that was changed for movie form seemingly fit in every way. And I read the books prior to watching the movies. They're not supposed to stand together, they're supposed to stand alone. And besides, I welcome fitting changes in tone, as I wouldn't want to watch the same story play out precisely the same way twice. That's boring. About as boring as the overrated TTGL movies.

Now the new Hobbit movies is a shit adaptation that doesn't know what it wants to be. It tries hard to be true to the book, but the only feelings it captures is the glory days of the Lord of The Rings movies, with callbacks and shout outs to the previous films all over it. Except none of it is nearly as good. And that's not what the hobbit is about. I would know, I read it 7 times. It's my favorite book that I read when I was a kid.

Jan 25, 2013 1:10 PM

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A lot of anime.

While we're discussing this, any films that aren't anime that don't deserve awards? Bet you could name a lot off the top of your head.

Jan 25, 2013 1:19 PM

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Grave of the Fireflies

Jan 25, 2013 1:29 PM

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Also Kara No Kyoukai 5 is worthy of an Oscar in my opinion. Not that the Oscars mean anything, but since they're considered with such high regards across the world, it would be nice for an anime movie to get one.

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Jan 25, 2013 3:06 PM

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None.
Oscar is not anime-worthy.

Jan 25, 2013 3:14 PM

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MaedhrostheTall said:
The Oscars are basically just a Hollywood-patting-itself-on-the-back award

This. It's a self promoting event and they mainly award american family comedies.

Jan 25, 2013 4:16 PM

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I don't like the Oscars for the reasons stated above.

That said, the Oscars is American, an event directed towards the general American public. Only media that the mainstream U.S would recognize would ever get awarded in the first place. Miyazaki is well-known in the West, but other anime movies would not be familiar with your average American movie-watcher.

I would say that Satoshi Kon's works is well-deserving of an award, but other than anime fans, who would recognize them in the first place? The Oscars would never promote the likes of Paprika or Millennium Actress, simply because most of the audience wouldn't have heard of it.

sir, all you have done throughout this entire court session is break dance in front of the judge. where is your lawyer. what are you even charged with.

Jan 25, 2013 4:53 PM

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Pulse-and-Melody said:

I would say that Satoshi Kon's works is well-deserving of an award, but other than anime fans, who would recognize them in the first place? The Oscars would never promote the likes of Paprika or Millennium Actress, simply because most of the audience wouldn't have heard of it.

Yes, because the Oscars are terrified of nominating movies most people have never heard of.

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Jan 25, 2013 5:08 PM

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Jan 25, 2013 5:15 PM

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tsui_mokei said:
None.
Oscar is not anime-worthy.

Jan 25, 2013 5:24 PM

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Vandalyzm said:

tsui_mokei said:
None.
Oscar is not anime-worthy.

I very much agree with this.

Jan 25, 2013 5:29 PM

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KinoLain said:

Vandalyzm said:

tsui_mokei said:
None.
Oscar is not anime-worthy.

I very much agree with this.

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