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Nov 19, 2012 12:03 AM
#51
Well as most people said it is worth starting one piece. I started it maybe two or three years ago but i have to say that its maybe my favourite long running anime until the arc that's coming up. Dont want to trash talk but it is much better than Naruto and Bleach. Some may disagree with me but having you start already im sure you would like it. People just dislike the anime because of the art. |
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Nov 19, 2012 12:53 AM
#52
Entezio said: Lol yea its gonna suck getting to the last episode and waiting a week for a new one. Im scared when that day comes Heard alot of things about enies, marineford, C9, sabody, and impel down. Cant wait!!! D_eidara said: Alabasta is awesome! but beware it'll probably be the first time you see luffy get beat up badly.... TWICE Nooooo I don't wanna see him get beat up I aint ready for that QQ For me, marineford is the greatest arc but that's much later and you'd have to know more about the marines, shichibukai, and the yonko to enjoy it :P hehe don't worry Luffy and the villain of alabasta will team up, i won't tell you when though :P |
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Nov 19, 2012 1:04 AM
#53
If you like the shounen format, then watch it, but in my opinion be prepared to skip a lot of it. There's a pattern that One Piece seems to follow where it slows down before every major battle, and then there are a few episodes of boooooring backstory, and then some over-the-top slapstick bullshit between every arc -- not unlike Bleach or Naruto actually. The difference is One Piece fillers are overseen by Oda (the manga artist), so they're not as intolerable, but still mostly bad. |
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Nov 19, 2012 1:53 AM
#54
katsucats said: If you like the shounen format, then watch it, but in my opinion be prepared to skip a lot of it. There's a pattern that One Piece seems to follow where it slows down before every major battle, and then there are a few episodes of boooooring backstory, and then some over-the-top slapstick bullshit between every arc -- not unlike Bleach or Naruto actually. The difference is One Piece fillers are overseen by Oda (the manga artist), so they're not as intolerable, but still mostly bad. Those "boooring" backstories are a highlight for a lot of people, though. It's fine if you don't like them and consider them to be melodramatic or whatever. But, to mention skipping and then calling the back stories boring, it almost sounds as though you are suggesting to skip those. Which is something I can't agree with in any way. If you just meant the fillers, I don't agree with you there either. Most of them are actually pretty decent I found. |
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Nov 19, 2012 8:26 AM
#55
insan3soldiern said: I completely agree with insan3soldiern, those back-stories are great and provide insight into the reason behind the main and side character's actions. And One Piece's arc format is completely different from Bleach and Naruto.katsucats said: If you like the shounen format, then watch it, but in my opinion be prepared to skip a lot of it. There's a pattern that One Piece seems to follow where it slows down before every major battle, and then there are a few episodes of boooooring backstory, and then some over-the-top slapstick bullshit between every arc -- not unlike Bleach or Naruto actually. The difference is One Piece fillers are overseen by Oda (the manga artist), so they're not as intolerable, but still mostly bad. Those "boooring" backstories are a highlight for a lot of people, though. It's fine if you don't like them and consider them to be melodramatic or whatever. But, to mention skipping and then calling the back stories boring, it almost sounds as though you are suggesting to skip those. Which is something I can't agree with in any way. If you just meant the fillers, I don't agree with you there either. Most of them are actually pretty decent I found. And One Piece fillers are so good, that people unless they are told won't know that they are fillers. I don't think anybody should skip any part at least watching their first time. |
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Nov 19, 2012 11:55 AM
#56
Nov 19, 2012 1:09 PM
#57
Actually, the most boring art in One Piece is Skypeia, bar none lol. You can skip that if your finding trouble watching a lot of it. Around ep 90 or so, the Arabasta arc is when it gets amazing though, and im sure you'll be even more addicted. |
Nov 19, 2012 1:22 PM
#59
No |
Nov 19, 2012 1:30 PM
#60
ZweiTheBadAss said: You shouldn't skip Skypia, though as it may seem boring. There are parts that are important to the story in there.Actually, the most boring art in One Piece is Skypeia, bar none lol. You can skip that if your finding trouble watching a lot of it. Around ep 90 or so, the Arabasta arc is when it gets amazing though, and im sure you'll be even more addicted. |
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Nov 19, 2012 2:42 PM
#62
aiNkyy said: I'm the only one who liked the Skypiea arc? Skypiea is my favorite of them all. The shit ones are the likes of Enies lobby which just have fight after fight after fight, which isn't good, especially not for one piece whose art doesn't give it the "cool factor" But skypiea was bigger, maybe it dragged at the end with Enel but the story progressed much more than it did in most arcs with "main stuff (BS)" Just because Enel had nothing to do with Pirates or World govt. people treat it like some filler arc -_- |
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Nov 19, 2012 3:37 PM
#63
Mikasa said: Skypiea is my favorite of them all. The shit ones are the likes of Enies lobby which just have fight after fight after fight, which isn't good, especially not for one piece whose art doesn't give it the "cool factor" But skypiea was bigger, maybe it dragged at the end with Enel but the story progressed much more than it did in most arcs with "main stuff (BS)" Just because Enel had nothing to do with Pirates or World govt. people treat it like some filler arc -_- Enies lobby has Robin's backstory, declaration of war with the government, Buster Call, the stuff with Going Merry, the crew developing new abilities (Gear 2nd/3rd, Asura, Monster Point, etc.), new bounty, thousand Sunny, Franky. What does Skypeia have? Dragged before Enel's appearance, dragged during Enel's appearance, dragged after Enel's appearance. Enel is unrelated to the world of pirates, the Poneglyph and Mantra were hardly important and only explained later in Fishman and luffy's training respectively, the villain disappeared to nothingness (story wise). There was no impact from this arc, the only good part is the comedy. Can't blame watchers if they treat it as filler tbh. |
Nov 19, 2012 4:06 PM
#64
LanceC said: The Poneglyph and mantra are enough important, anybody can tell that the Poneglyph there led Robin to the conclusion that Shirahoshi is the mermaid princess and also revealed that Roger could read(or understand the voice of all things) which will be important also because Luffy probably has it and also in turn led Robin to ask Rayleigh about her dream. Which is the Rio poneglyph, that is going to be really important later on seeing as it's part of the main story and will start a war later. One of the great things about Haki is that it was shown before it was explained, Oda putting it in there at different places brought more impact and background to it when it was finally brought out and explained.Mikasa said: Skypiea is my favorite of them all. The shit ones are the likes of Enies lobby which just have fight after fight after fight, which isn't good, especially not for one piece whose art doesn't give it the "cool factor" But skypiea was bigger, maybe it dragged at the end with Enel but the story progressed much more than it did in most arcs with "main stuff (BS)" Just because Enel had nothing to do with Pirates or World govt. people treat it like some filler arc -_- Enies lobby has Robin's backstory, declaration of war with the government, Buster Call, the stuff with Going Merry, the crew developing new abilities (Gear 2nd/3rd, Asura, Monster Point, etc.), new bounty, thousand Sunny, Franky. What does Skypeia have? Dragged before Enel's appearance, dragged during Enel's appearance, dragged after Enel's appearance. Enel is unrelated to the world of pirates, the Poneglyph and Mantra were hardly important and only explained later in Fishman and luffy's training respectively, the villain disappeared to nothingness (story wise). There was no impact from this arc, the only good part is the comedy. Can't blame watchers if they treat it as filler tbh. The gold that they stole there was the gold that would eventually finance the creating of the Thousand Sunny Go. Without dials Usopp would never have been able to upgrade his slighshot and Nami's clima tact. Also that is when dials are introduced, which helps Usopp when fighting Luffy and other situations, Brook when he becomes a rock star and is going to help him deliver his message to Laboon. No doubt that we will see more dials in the story ahead. From what I have heard about the manga, that is not the last time Enel appears. He goes to the moon and is attacked by space pirates and meets cyborgs, and learns a little about the past of his people. How do you know that that won't be important to the story later on. And the wikia states these two other things as important.
It would be stupid to treat it as a filler, there was enough things, even if they are things that will only be important later that it proves itself as an important arc. |
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Nov 19, 2012 4:22 PM
#65
^ So Skypeia is more of an intro arc than an actual major arc then, with the included elements only having significance later on. To be honest, I can put the poneglyph's content during Arabasta's poneglyph and it still would make sense. Haki was introduced in Sabaody, Amazon Lily, Marineford arc, and Shank's first apperance. Even if Enel didn't use Mantra the ability would still make sense. It's not a useless arc but it has the least content among others. Reviving the elements from Skypeia was more of a nice throwback than connecting the dots or cause-and-effect. If I compare Skypeia to the impacts of Arabasta, Enies Lobby, or Arlong Park it does feel like a filler than the others. Of course I won't recommend skipping it, it still has great comedy and like you said, some connection with future events. Even during the actual filler arcs I still had great enjoyment, especially the one after Skypeia, G9 fortress was it? |
Nov 19, 2012 4:46 PM
#66
Spoiling and such about Skypiea, so don't read if you haven't watched the show. Well, I think the Klaubatermann event is significant enough in the series to justify alone not skipping the arc. As said, it relates to one of the main events in the Water 7 arc. It reveals the major reason for Usopp to fight Luffy is because of that event. And it also defines the relationship between the Straw Hats and the ship. It is important. It's the first time where we have a hint about the idea of the Going Merry as a nakama (which is absolutely relevant in the series). On the other hand, the idea that this is a mere intro arc finds its biggest con precisely in the information we get on Poneglyphs. They weren't introduced in this arc, however we start to get its true meaning and its connection with the past events in Skypiea. I think it also helped to define some relevant points of Robin as a character, this is the first time we are exposed to her sadistic side, and the first too where she shows some serious emotional attachment to the crew members. And also we learn a lot on her archaeological abilities and interests. |
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Nov 19, 2012 4:51 PM
#67
^ likewise please stop spoiling about the different arcs. Put it in spoiler tags if you want. If you love discussing one piece there are other topics for it. This topic is mainly trying to help viewers who havent seen the anime yet, decide if they want to or not. Reasons dont include spoilers. They might end up to be like. -the characters are well developed through many arcs -the friendship shown along their journey is refreshing. Something like this which aren't really spoilers but give an overall insight to the anime. |
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Nov 19, 2012 4:53 PM
#68
Yep, that's true. Fixed it. |
Nov 19, 2012 4:57 PM
#69
LanceC said: Since people don't like spoilers^ So Skypeia is more of an intro arc than an actual major arc then, with the included elements only having significance later on. To be honest, I can put the poneglyph's content during Arabasta's poneglyph and it still would make sense. Haki was introduced in Sabaody, Amazon Lily, Marineford arc, and Shank's first apperance. Even if Enel didn't use Mantra the ability would still make sense. It's not a useless arc but it has the least content among others. Reviving the elements from Skypeia was more of a nice throwback than connecting the dots or cause-and-effect. If I compare Skypeia to the impacts of Arabasta, Enies Lobby, or Arlong Park it does feel like a filler than the others. Of course I won't recommend skipping it, it still has great comedy and like you said, some connection with future events. Even during the actual filler arcs I still had great enjoyment, especially the one after Skypeia, G9 fortress was it? I didn't say that, I said that it atleast had things that would be important later not that that's the only things that it has. First of all the Alabasta poneglyph told the whereabouts of Pluton and the Skypia one told the whereabouts of Poseidon. It wouldn't make much sense to put the location of two huge weapons on one poneglyph since the whole reason of inscribing them on seperate pieces was to scatter them in case they are found and to protect them. So it wouldn't make more sense to combine them or keep them in the same place. Well obviously Oda wanted it to be also in this arc, he could have taken it out of those other ones too. More foreshadowing is not a bad thing, especially since this was the biggest example where it showed multiple people using it instead of just one or two in those other instances. And there are still all those other reasons that you haven't mentioned the gold that funded their new ship, dials which are now an important technology that only comes from Sky islands, Enel appearing again which means that he and what he discovered could be important, the Klabautermann and him fixing the ship that impacted the Water 7 arc, the existence of sky islands for when Nami gets dropped on one, Chopper's character developement. Not to mention that taking out Skypia would take away almost all purpose to going to Jaya, meeting Blackbeard, beating up jackal, etc. So just because it has the least amount of content in your opinion doesn't mean it should be treated as filler or treated as more filler than the others. Oda obviously had a purpose for this arc also more things that haven't been revealed too. And it's called G8. |
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Nov 19, 2012 5:51 PM
#70
Yea i just saw a spoiler but it wasnt that big thank god. Oh deidra i think that luffy + alabasta leader teamup was a spoiler lol but its cool to know the hero and villian fight together So pumped for alabasta gonna see it thursday. (Thanksgiving break!!) I just skimmed through so i dont see spoilers but what im getting from skypeia is that its more story oriented. Eh who cares all these good arcs are in the 200's im not even close. |
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Nov 19, 2012 5:55 PM
#71
Entezio said: Yea i just saw a spoiler but it wasnt that big thank god. Oh deidra i think that luffy + alabasta leader teamup was a spoiler lol but its cool to know the hero and villian fight together So pumped for alabasta gonna see it thursday. (Thanksgiving break!!) I just skimmed through so i dont see spoilers but what im getting from skypeia is that its more story oriented. Eh who cares all these good arcs are in the 200's im not even close. You are so going to love Arabasta. I can't even express how jealous I am of you, I want to rewatch everything without knowing what's going to happen. |
Nov 19, 2012 6:16 PM
#72
LanceC said: Entezio said: Yea i just saw a spoiler but it wasnt that big thank god. Oh deidra i think that luffy + alabasta leader teamup was a spoiler lol but its cool to know the hero and villian fight together So pumped for alabasta gonna see it thursday. (Thanksgiving break!!) I just skimmed through so i dont see spoilers but what im getting from skypeia is that its more story oriented. Eh who cares all these good arcs are in the 200's im not even close. You are so going to love Arabasta. I can't even express how jealous I am of you, I want to rewatch everything without knowing what's going to happen. @entezio and LanceC If you guys every want to watch Arabasta arc, if you dont mind the recap try this: http://myanimelist.net/anime/2107/One_Piece:_Episode_of_Alabaster_-_Sabaku_no_Ojou_to_Kaizoku_Tachi It is 90 min recap movie with all the important events in the arc. Pretty well done too imo. |
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Nov 19, 2012 6:35 PM
#73
LuckyMango said: Well Entezio has just started watching the series so I don't think he needs a recap now. And they changed a lot of things in that movie, it's hard to compress like 20 hours of video to 90 minutes.LanceC said: Entezio said: Yea i just saw a spoiler but it wasnt that big thank god. Oh deidra i think that luffy + alabasta leader teamup was a spoiler lol but its cool to know the hero and villian fight together So pumped for alabasta gonna see it thursday. (Thanksgiving break!!) I just skimmed through so i dont see spoilers but what im getting from skypeia is that its more story oriented. Eh who cares all these good arcs are in the 200's im not even close. You are so going to love Arabasta. I can't even express how jealous I am of you, I want to rewatch everything without knowing what's going to happen. @entezio and LanceC If you guys every want to watch Arabasta arc, if you dont mind the recap try this: http://myanimelist.net/anime/2107/One_Piece:_Episode_of_Alabaster_-_Sabaku_no_Ojou_to_Kaizoku_Tachi It is 90 min recap movie with all the important events in the arc. Pretty well done too imo. |
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Nov 20, 2012 1:18 AM
#74
I have to disagree that the current arcs are complete crap. ^^; They aren't the best, but there is still depth even to the fishman island arc. The fights are what isn't up to snuff in that one. I marathoned OP back when it was... maybe in the 300s? I would totally absolutely do it all over again. <3 Gawd this show makes me laugh, it makes me angry, it makes me cry, it makes me think and that's not something you can say about many shows. I had to quit for a while in the middle of the Sabaody (I can never spell that) arc because it was getting too intense and emotional for me for a bit. But then I had to pick it up and not skip those eps because I had to know what happened. I don't think there's a worry of the plot getting thin. It's not like he's making this up as he goes, he's planning it out in advance. It's not just going to run out of steam and get cancelled. ^^ And there are still some heavy plots to handle, too, that have been foreshadowed or anticipated for a while. *nod* Oh, and for the record, for me, not even the beginning eps were boring. Hehe. Watching Luffy's unique way of getting crew mates was quite amusing. :3 |
Nov 20, 2012 4:51 AM
#75
LanceC said: Mikasa said: Skypiea is my favorite of them all. The shit ones are the likes of Enies lobby which just have fight after fight after fight, which isn't good, especially not for one piece whose art doesn't give it the "cool factor" But skypiea was bigger, maybe it dragged at the end with Enel but the story progressed much more than it did in most arcs with "main stuff (BS)" Just because Enel had nothing to do with Pirates or World govt. people treat it like some filler arc -_- Enies lobby has Robin's backstory, declaration of war with the government, Buster Call, the stuff with Going Merry, the crew developing new abilities (Gear 2nd/3rd, Asura, Monster Point, etc.), new bounty, thousand Sunny, Franky. What does Skypeia have? Dragged before Enel's appearance, dragged during Enel's appearance, dragged after Enel's appearance. Enel is unrelated to the world of pirates, the Poneglyph and Mantra were hardly important and only explained later in Fishman and luffy's training respectively, the villain disappeared to nothingness (story wise). There was no impact from this arc, the only good part is the comedy. Can't blame watchers if they treat it as filler tbh. Robin's flashback, a 2-chapter flashback. Could've been placed anywhere, doesn't really make the Enies lobby arc any less crap. Declaration of war: luffy's extremely cliche screaming "but of course, they are my nakama". Not impressive. Buster call, another bomb(s) that has to be stopped in time. Yay. New bounty, Jaya's new bounties were more interesting. New powers and asspulls, yay very interesting, haven't seen it in bleach a 1000 times, in naruto 500 times, and in OP itself about a 700 times before. Skypiea, felt like we were the ones exploring, an island with an actual history, a very interesting one. Not just: 1) go to island 2) fuck shit up and have random fights that aren't even good Skypiea along with Jaya had some good writing and weren't just some typical shonen arc |
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Nov 21, 2012 2:09 PM
#76
I think you are selling the qualities of Enies Lobby really short, Mikasa. For instance, it is simply not true that Robin's flashback could be placed anywhere. There was a specific buildup and pacing for it, the previous (Water7) arc gave the first hints on her past and her bond with the Straw Hats, and one of the previous episodes in the Enies Lobby arc had her claiming that she wanted to die. On the other hand, there is another strong point that I believe needs more attention, and it's Usopp/Sogeking. His decision to help Robin was in conflict with his own feelings after the Going Merry event. This makes the circumstances interesting as his feeling of shame and not being valuable as a member of the crew was part of his choice to hide his face, and his relationship with Luffy is emphasized in several points where it shows how difficult is for him to treat his old captain. The moment in which Usopp pulls out his mask and yells to Luffy is probably one of the least mentioned but most significant scenes in the whole arc. And then is the Going Merry. It has to be one of the definitive emotional heights of the series. Both in their escape from Enies Lobby (-"Follow Luffy! -To the sea!!") and the funeral. I think these two scenes alone justify the whole experience of this arc. I agree that the question of the declaration of war is clichéd. But hey, this is what One Piece is about. You can't blame a show for trying to follow an emotional discourse based on the main point of its storyline, which is the strong bond the Straw Hats have. So given that this has been done other times ("Nami, you are my nakama!" is one of the most memorable), I particularly loved this as it was properly romanticized with Robin's backstory and mysterious personality, and the idea of fighting against an absurdly huge opponent just to save a friend. This kind of exaggerated exaltation of friendship is an inseparable part of the series and I think following it requires accepting it for what it is. On the fights. Well, I said it at the time, but I actually liked them. Not really for the action itself, but because they were dynamic. That is, Sanji, Zoro, Nami, Chopper and Franky don't fight in the same way, so their answer was different, and in that sense, entertaining to see. I was particularly fond of Nami's nerdy fight and Sanji's "five cool phrases per second" style. And you also have to take Califa and Kaku into account; they had a new power, but had problems to take control of it. This created a totally new situation because most of the enemies the Straw Hats had fought against till then dominated their techniques perfectly. As these two were exploring them, this added another variable to the fight, that at least in the case of Nami, was crucial for the final result. And on the other hand, they were such a great source of comedy (I fondly remember the scene of Chopper taking the colas for Franky). That doesn't mean this arc doesn't have its flaws. The pacing of the story was insufferably slow at some points. This was the climax of the 5-minute recaps and many episodes felt incredibly short and unsubstantial, being the biggest offenders the episodes that took for the crew to reach the Justice Palace. I didn't like the filler flashback episodes either, which were completely unnecessary, pointless and repetitive; and the pacing didn't benefit exactly from having the Christmas specials in between. These sort of killed the growing tension of the story. And finally, I was a little bothered by how overpowered did the characters seem from the previous arcs. Although I think it sort of goes well with the discourse of this and Water 7, the idea of them being finally aware of their position. Overall, though, it was a great ride. And I disagree that it was specially clichéd, if anything, it is more mundane than Skypiea, in the sense that it deals with invading an enemy's base to reach a physical objective. But Skypiea on the other hand can be seen as nothing more and nothing else than a stylized version of the typical conqueror tale, it has a lot of its imagery, the inhabitants being completely isolated from the external world, an outsider (Enel) being mistaken by a God... saying that one is clichéd and denying the same quality for the other is absolutely wrong. On the other hand, Skypiea actually did show the scheme of "go to island + random fights". There was that "everybody against everybody" Battle Royale style plotline inserted, which basically dealt with different people fighting each other in a completely random basis. And I don't think I have to mention that this has also been done hundreds of times. I agree that the backstory was great and it was one of the high points: Norland's tale, the story of the different parts of the conflict and how they got to there, the presence of the Poneglyphs, etc. It was definitely the best point of this arc and the episodes that went into detail in it were the best. But in terms of character development, Enies Lobby was much more forceful, or at the very least interesting. And I love the imagery of this series, but what actually makes it for me is the characters. Skypiea's scheme was a bit poor in that sense because the characters were not exposed to any special emotional stress, nor their relationship was redefined in some way. And on how much they dragged, I think Enies Lobby takes the cake in this case, but Skypiea is not much better in that sense... In summary, I think both arcs have their pros and cons, but in my opinion Enies Lobby is still ahead of Skypiea in the terms I consider most relevant (except maybe the imagery) in the show. Oh, and (I almost forgot it), it's true that the Buster Call is the typical element of the "bomb that has to be stopped in time"... except it's actually not stopped because the characters don't have the power nor the opportunity to decide that. I think it's a big change in that scheme, from the moment the Buster Call is made this becomes a menace precisely because of its inevitability. |
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Nov 22, 2012 4:44 AM
#77
One Piece is one of the most enjoyable shows out there. And quite ironically the "kids art" everyone keeps whining about attracts the most amount of Adult people to watch the show. http://www.mangatherapy.com/post/3601503033/one-piece-popularity And it's not even the first anime to do this. (I mean unique characters that makes people think it's kids show that seems to attract only adults.) One Piece thrives off of its brilliant characters and adventures, and seasoned readers are attracted to the qualities. |
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Nov 22, 2012 8:44 AM
#78
rimedragona said: I have to disagree that the current arcs are complete crap. ^^; They aren't the best, but there is still depth even to the fishman island arc. The fights are what isn't up to snuff in that one. Umm yeah the fights aren't up to par at all, hell they completely skipped or screwed up most of the finishing moves in the Fishman Island Arc. Seriously one of if not the defining moment of an arc and they cramped it all in to one episode and screwed it up. Choppers finisher looked like he just pushed his enemy aside, and Ussops finisher looked like some sort of bizarre Christmas tree attack, and other finishers weren't even animated. And it's not just that, the art and animation has been horrendous, and the pacing has been abysmal. It's one thing if they were saving their budget to animate the fights, and it's another thing entirely to just say fuck it and pocket the money at the expense of millions of One Piece fans. Seriously what's going on is Toei realizes all of us die hard fans are gonna watch One Piece no matter what so now they are just being lazy fucks and lowering the budget so they get paid more for doing less work. It's embarrassing that one of the best stories ever told is getting this type of treatment. One can only hope they don't screw up Punk Hazard too bad considering how amazing and fast paced this new arc is. |
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Nov 22, 2012 7:02 PM
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Nov 23, 2012 8:09 AM
#80
egoplant said: I just started it too, only 8 episodes in and it's really good. I don't know why you guys think the starting is boring. Agreed. I think the problem here is comparison. Considering that by those first episodes the attachment to the characters was less intense, and the storyline was still quite basic, I think people tend to dismiss these episodes as bad or below average. The claim of "this is when the series becomes epic" is quite frequent and covers several moments of the show. So don't be surprised if one tells you that the "good stuff" starts at episode 30 and later with the series you discover that there are people who consider episode 150 or so the barrier between the "standard shounen fare" and "the real One Piece greatness". I think the fanbase has a very absurd habit of denying the qualities of the previous episodes every time they get to a story/emotional peak. But well, it's part of the charm of the community I guess. |
Nov 23, 2012 10:20 AM
#81
I love the emotional parts of One Piece |
Nov 23, 2012 11:22 AM
#82
Probably from the answers you've got from the recent posts, you are now starting the quest watching one piece. For me it was a must watch anime, if you are thinking, that "ohw god the anime has its freaking 500+" you can skip filler episodes, eventhough one piece does not have that much fillers, atleast your problem lessens. This link might help you to find fillers: http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/Episode_Guide Its up to you if you want these advices: You can start by just reading the manga chap. 1-68 (this is just gathering the first few crews) And then continue watching the anime episode 31-45 (Arlong Park Arc) 46-47 (Buggy Side Story) For you to have an idea what will going to happen to buggy 48-53 (Loguetown Arc) But you can skip ep. 50 and 51 if you want or you can just read the summary form the link i gave. You can just even read the manga chap. 96 -100 if you want. And end the first saga watching episode 61, where they cross the red line (ep. 54-60 are just fillers) Well this is the whole East Blue Saga, if you want me to continue giving suggestions just give me a message. Hope this message was helpful. ^~^ |
Poly25Nov 23, 2012 11:25 AM
Nov 23, 2012 10:35 PM
#83
Nov 23, 2012 10:52 PM
#84
egoplant said: No there is no romance, though there are some characters who like people, there has been no romance and will probably be none.(Oda talked about it once)Is there any romance in this series? And also what do you think about reading the manga along side of the anime? I read about 50 chapters of the manga before I started, and I was thinking about staying 1 arc ahead in the manga as I watch the series. I can't say anything about the manga part though. |
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Nov 23, 2012 10:54 PM
#85
IntroverTurtle said: How come you like One Piece so much, yet haven't read the manga?egoplant said: No there is no romance, though there are some characters who like people, there has been no romance and will probably be none.(Oda talked about it once)Is there any romance in this series? And also what do you think about reading the manga along side of the anime? I read about 50 chapters of the manga before I started, and I was thinking about staying 1 arc ahead in the manga as I watch the series. I can't say anything about the manga part though. |
Nov 23, 2012 11:12 PM
#86
egoplant said: Because of the story, the fighting might be cooler looking in a show like Naruto, but all the other shounens stories don't compare. One Piece has a great story with a lot of continuity(I see that you are at episode 14, you will see in a couple of episodes you will learn about one of the early enemies(Morgan) in the arc that you are in), things like that are common, things might be mentioned or shown early but you won't learn the whole story until later, and will be revealed at the best time.IntroverTurtle said: How come you like One Piece so much, yet haven't read the manga?egoplant said: No there is no romance, though there are some characters who like people, there has been no romance and will probably be none.(Oda talked about it once)Is there any romance in this series? And also what do you think about reading the manga along side of the anime? I read about 50 chapters of the manga before I started, and I was thinking about staying 1 arc ahead in the manga as I watch the series. I can't say anything about the manga part though. The characters are great, all throughout their journey they are picking up people every once in a while and all the characters including side characters grow and you will get attached to them. And because you feel so much for the characters you will probably find yourself crying at certain parts(I've cried more times in One Piece than I have in any other show). And of course there are other things, but I don't want to spoil anything. It is definitely an anime that I would recommend to someone, and it gets better as it goes. |
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Nov 24, 2012 12:29 AM
#87
IntroverTurtle said: Yeah it's a really good show I like it so far, but my original question was that if you feel that strongly about the show, how come you haven't read the manga? It's not even in your plan to watch list.egoplant said: Because of the story, the fighting might be cooler looking in a show like Naruto, but all the other shounens stories don't compare. One Piece has a great story with a lot of continuity(I see that you are at episode 14, you will see in a couple of episodes you will learn about one of the early enemies(Morgan) in the arc that you are in), things like that are common, things might be mentioned or shown early but you won't learn the whole story until later, and will be revealed at the best time.How come you like One Piece so much, yet haven't read the manga? The characters are great, all throughout their journey they are picking up people every once in a while and all the characters including side characters grow and you will get attached to them. And because you feel so much for the characters you will probably find yourself crying at certain parts(I've cried more times in One Piece than I have in any other show). And of course there are other things, but I don't want to spoil anything. It is definitely an anime that I would recommend to someone, and it gets better as it goes. |
Nov 24, 2012 12:38 AM
#88
egoplant said: Oh my bad, I must have misunderstood and then wrote like 2 paragraphs.IntroverTurtle said: Yeah it's a really good show I like it so far, but my original question was that if you feel that strongly about the show, how come you haven't read the manga? It's not even in your plan to watch list.egoplant said: Because of the story, the fighting might be cooler looking in a show like Naruto, but all the other shounens stories don't compare. One Piece has a great story with a lot of continuity(I see that you are at episode 14, you will see in a couple of episodes you will learn about one of the early enemies(Morgan) in the arc that you are in), things like that are common, things might be mentioned or shown early but you won't learn the whole story until later, and will be revealed at the best time.How come you like One Piece so much, yet haven't read the manga? The characters are great, all throughout their journey they are picking up people every once in a while and all the characters including side characters grow and you will get attached to them. And because you feel so much for the characters you will probably find yourself crying at certain parts(I've cried more times in One Piece than I have in any other show). And of course there are other things, but I don't want to spoil anything. It is definitely an anime that I would recommend to someone, and it gets better as it goes. I haven't really read much manga, and I watched the anime first and didn't have strong feelings for it so I didn't feel the need to read the manga. Now that it's my favorite series I have thought about reading the manga one day, but I would never go past the anime. |
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Nov 24, 2012 4:57 AM
#89
I'm up to episode 110 and I'm really loving it :D But sometimes it's kinda unclear if a character dies or not, like Luffy beat the crap out of Wapol and then he flew away, but does that mean he's dead or is he gonna return?? Also how do you add that spoiler button to hide parts of your post? :) |
Nov 24, 2012 5:26 AM
#90
Rufispater said: I'm up to episode 110 and I'm really loving it :D But sometimes it's kinda unclear if a character dies or not Also how do you add that spoiler button to hide parts of your post? :) One Piece is infamous for the sentence: “Nobody dies in the present”. It is also pretty true. Except you are unnamed fodder you will live through practically everything either you are a good guy or a bad guy. You will understand pretty soon what is meant by it. Rufispater said: like Luffy beat the crap out of Wapol and then he flew away, but does that mean he's dead or is he gonna return?? Oda does so called cover stories. In those he shows what happened to certain characters (mostly villains). Do you remember the Buggy the Clown Episodes where he tries to find his body and crew? Or the Coby and Hellmeppo one where they go to the Marine Headquarters? Those were cover stories but because the Japanese thought of it as “filler” they don’t animate them anymore even though a lot of them are very plot important. The Wapol one is quite important. He invents a new Metal called the Wapometal with his DF ability. This metal has certain characteristics which will come later in the story into play. So when you see something out of Metal where people wonder why it is so hard to destroy, it will probably be Wapometal. He becomes super rich and super powerful. The World Government gives him a new Island and he maries Miss universe. Rufispater said: Also how do you add that spoiler button to hide parts of your post? :) [.spoiler]Without the dots(.)[./spoiler] |
Nov 24, 2012 8:25 AM
#91
Josl said: One Piece is infamous for the sentence: “Nobody dies in the present”. It is also pretty true. Except you are unnamed fodder you will live through practically everything either you are a good guy or a bad guy. You will understand pretty soon what is meant by it. Rufispater said: like Luffy beat the crap out of Wapol and then he flew away, but does that mean he's dead or is he gonna return?? Oda does so called cover stories. In those he shows what happened to certain characters (mostly villains). Do you remember the Buggy the Clown Episodes where he tries to find his body and crew? Or the Coby and Hellmeppo one where they go to the Marine Headquarters? Those were cover stories but because the Japanese thought of it as “filler” they don’t animate them anymore even though a lot of them are very plot important. The Wapol one is quite important. He invents a new Metal called the Wapometal with his DF ability. This metal has certain characteristics which will come later in the story into play. So when you see something out of Metal where people wonder why it is so hard to destroy, it will probably be Wapometal. He becomes super rich and super powerful. The World Government gives him a new Island and he maries Miss universe. Rufispater said: Also how do you add that spoiler button to hide parts of your post? :) [.spoiler]Without the dots(.)[./spoiler] Thnx for the info! :D |
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