Enjolras1830 said: rederoin said: Enjolras1830 said: rederoin said: Uberchu said: You guys also have to account that everybody rates differently. I give 10's out like free candy but that's because, to me, a 7 would be bad (seriously, you imagine getting a 70% on a test. That's a bad score) while to others it's decent. a 7 is bad in your country? in all school i ever been tp 70% was a D plus 7 =/ 70% A 5.5 is average, and high enough to pass(since it gets rounded up to a 6) hence why hers what i think 1-4 the worst 5 Bad 6 ok 7 Passible 8 decent 9 excelent 10 perfect A 8 being decent is still not really a good scale either. Not a lot changes from 6 to 8, but 8 and 10 are a whole world apart(with your system). |
| If you are only going to use 7 ratings then just make a 7 point scale, not 10. |
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Enjolras1830 said: rederoin said: Enjolras1830 said: rederoin said: Enjolras1830 said: rederoin said: Uberchu said: You guys also have to account that everybody rates differently. I give 10's out like free candy but that's because, to me, a 7 would be bad (seriously, you imagine getting a 70% on a test. That's a bad score) while to others it's decent. a 7 is bad in your country? in all school i ever been tp 70% was a D plus 7 =/ 70% A 5.5 is average, and high enough to pass(since it gets rounded up to a 6) hence why hers what i think 1-4 the worst 5 Bad 6 ok 7 Passible 8 decent 9 excelent 10 perfect A 8 being decent is still not really a good scale either. Not a lot changes from 6 to 8, but 8 and 10 are a whole world apart(with your system). go to my pF page tp see what how i make up the numbers i just did not pluck numbers from nowere That doesn't really change what I said in my post. |
| A lot of people consider 7 to be an average score, and anything below that is bad. For me a 5 is average and anything lower is below average, anything higher above average. I'm not gonna try to tell anyone how to rate or anything, but I have to agree with rederoin that that really isn't a good scale. Then again that might just be me. I've never applied grades or percentages that you'd get on tests with rating anime though. |
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| It doesn't really matter though. So many people are on this site that everything curves to around 7-8 and bad ones lean on 6 while good ones reach 9. |
| I don't look at the average ratings because I could have a different opinion. I read the descriptions and If it sounds suspense or/and appealing to me I watch it. There are anime that disappinted me anyways but I think reading the descriptions is better than relying on average ratings. |
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M1neRunn3r said: I don't look at the average ratings because I could have a different opinion. I read the descriptions and If it sounds suspense or/and appealing to me I watch it. There are anime that disappinted me anyways but I think reading the descriptions is better than relying on average ratings. What about the times when your ratings agree with the average of an anime? Oh right! NVM. You don't want to have to give up your hipster title. |
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Enjolras1830 said: rederoin said: Enjolras1830 said: rederoin said: Enjolras1830 said: rederoin said: Enjolras1830 said: rederoin said: Uberchu said: You guys also have to account that everybody rates differently. I give 10's out like free candy but that's because, to me, a 7 would be bad (seriously, you imagine getting a 70% on a test. That's a bad score) while to others it's decent. a 7 is bad in your country? in all school i ever been tp 70% was a D plus 7 =/ 70% A 5.5 is average, and high enough to pass(since it gets rounded up to a 6) hence why hers what i think 1-4 the worst 5 Bad 6 ok 7 Passible 8 decent 9 excelent 10 perfect A 8 being decent is still not really a good scale either. Not a lot changes from 6 to 8, but 8 and 10 are a whole world apart(with your system). go to my pF page tp see what how i make up the numbers i just did not pluck numbers from nowere That doesn't really change what I said in my post. yes it should cause if you note to the fact that my GPA in school was 8.45 and my end of school Garde for high School was b- [ ad i was one of the top 50 studenats in the whole school [ note not 1 person failed to graduate ] that why i say 8 is ony passably cause the fact that im using my School Ratiginf for numbers for rating my anime school ratings have nothing to do with anime ratings. |
| I don't put alot of stock in the ratings, but not because I don't trust them rather that I look at how people think of a show that I am watching or watched. I will look at the rating for a show before I watch it now but it doesn't affect me too much unless the score is extremely bad. |
| If the ratings and reviews are complete shit I defiantly will stay away form the anime. |
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| Hey guys i just found out MAL has its own rating scale. You don't have to make up your own anymore. |
Knave said: Hey guys i just found out MAL has its own rating scale. You don't have to make up your own anymore. Lol, i never got why people made their own scales. |
| Possibly because 5 shouldn't be the average and they use poor descriptive wording like horrible/appalling. If something was "appalling" or "horrible", I probably wouldn't have watched it enough to rate it. I still sort of know what you mean though, 1-10 is 1-10. |
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Post-Josh said: Possibly because 5 shouldn't be the average and they use poor descriptive wording like horrible/appalling. If something was "appalling" or "horrible", I probably wouldn't have watched it enough to rate it. I still sort of know what you mean though, 1-10 is 1-10. 55/10 = 5.5 The average should be 5.5 but considering MAL doesn't use . in it's ratings, it makes sense to round it up to 5. So, yes, the average should be 5. |
| I like whatever MAL likes. |
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Knave said: Hey guys i just found out MAL has its own rating scale. You don't have to make up your own anymore. 5 is average?? Even if an anime scores a 7.0 on average it's low ranked here on MAL; for example Seikon no Qwaser is scored 7.0 and is ranked #2800. Anyway to answer the OP's question: even though all my fav anime are high ranked here on MAL; I don't look at the ratings here when I select anime to watch since there is also more than enough good "low ranked" anime. |
Khalan3 said: Knave said: Hey guys i just found out MAL has its own rating scale. You don't have to make up your own anymore. 5 is average?? Even if an anime scores a 7.0 on average it's low ranked here on MAL; for example Seikon no Qwaser is scored 7.0 and is ranked #2800. Anyway to answer the OP's question: even though all my fav anime are high ranked here on MAL; I don't look at the ratings here when I select anime to watch since there is also more than enough good "low ranked" anime. That's the average score that particular anime received. It doesn't change the fact that many people consider it "Good". The reason it's ranked #2800 is because of the amount of Anime in the database. |
Khalan3 said: Knave said: Hey guys i just found out MAL has its own rating scale. You don't have to make up your own anymore. 5 is average?? Even if an anime scores a 7.0 on average it's low ranked here on MAL; for example Seikon no Qwaser is scored 7.0 and is ranked #2800. Anyway to answer the OP's question: even though all my fav anime are high ranked here on MAL; I don't look at the ratings here when I select anime to watch since there is also more than enough good "low ranked" anime. Don't let that big number fool you. 2800 out of 20000 is indeed above average. |
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| I don't care about MAL ratings, or any other rating by anyone else for that matter. If it attracts my attention, I'll watch it. Like others have said, the only rating that matters is what I think. |
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| Well, I always enjoy browsing through ratings and reviews - both here and on other sites - but, ultimately, those opinions are only a small part of what influences me to watch or not watch a show. For the most part, I determine what shows to watch based on interest in the premise, art, cast, etc. Now, that being said, I will put more stock in a review if I see that the person who wrote it has a very high list compatibility with me along with a high number of shared anime. |
Knave said: Post-Josh said: Possibly because 5 shouldn't be the average and they use poor descriptive wording like horrible/appalling. If something was "appalling" or "horrible", I probably wouldn't have watched it enough to rate it. I still sort of know what you mean though, 1-10 is 1-10. 55/10 = 5.5 The average should be 5.5 but considering MAL doesn't use . in it's ratings, it makes sense to round it up to 5. So, yes, the average should be 5. I'm well aware. Which is why I said 5 is not average, as the label suggests. It makes equal sense to call 6 average, but that would be wrong as well. |
LoneWolf said: @Josh makes me sad to call myself Canadian. |
Post-Josh said: Knave said: Post-Josh said: Possibly because 5 shouldn't be the average and they use poor descriptive wording like horrible/appalling. If something was "appalling" or "horrible", I probably wouldn't have watched it enough to rate it. I still sort of know what you mean though, 1-10 is 1-10. 55/10 = 5.5 The average should be 5.5 but considering MAL doesn't use . in it's ratings, it makes sense to round it up to 5. So, yes, the average should be 5. I'm well aware. Which is why I said 5 is not average, as the label suggests. It makes equal sense to call 6 average, but that would be wrong as well. "average - around the middle of a scale of evaluation" 6 is not around the middle of 10. 5.5 and 5 are. |
| i couldnt care less about the ratings. i just look at the recommendations tabs of my fav anime. |
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| I never ever rely on MAL ratings. I have a different perspective than most so I can't think that I have the same taste as all the other users. |
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NearTu said: I never ever rely on MAL ratings. I have a different perspective than most so I can't think that I have the same taste as all the other users. Well if you looked at the ratings you'd see that your ratings pretty much match up with most other people's ratings for most of your anime. |
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| To be honest, I don't really read the ratings on any website. I just watch what I want, even if people tell me it's crap. Most of the time, the people that tell me it's crap are just assholes anyway. =) |
| To be honest ratings are important and express the opinion of a lot of people!! 30000 people give a rating,should be accurated anyway this depends on the kind of genere and kind of chars the show have, if you dont like comedy and has mpre than an 8 probably u dont like or you like but find it average, you will give it a 6 an other pwople who really love comedya will give it 9-10! Obviously there are a lot of people who rates so high in general! But i think ratings are really good! Old shows probably are not well Determined because a lot pf people doesnt know about them or old visuals takrs them off!! I dont know everythin higher than 7,8 i think i didnt give it less than a 6 and that is not a bad indicator, and shows from 5 pr lower all have less than 7,30 in mal score!! Just as a measure counter i guess its ok |
| Good ratings have brought me a lot of good anime, you'd be stupid to ignore them, but you can't take them too seriously. I find it funny that echii comedy shows frequently find themselves at 100 on the popularity list, but end up 2000 on the ratings list. People seem to be finnicky when it comes to what they percieve as shallow. Like K-On, so many people critisize it for being nothing but moe, but it entertains, it's art is great, animation is superb, characters are all fun and interesting. It is also similarly up high on the popularity list, I am sure. |
| They are found by finding the average of everybody's scoring but I have found that my ratings usually don't match the mean. The top rated anime are usually there for a reason, same with the really low rated ones. But I have found that there are anime in the higher 6's and lower 7's that are pretty good. I haven't watched anything(that wasn't hentai) that is lower than 6.5. But the system isn't perfect, If 100 people rate an anime a 10 it would be high on the list, while it would take thousands to change the rating at all in one of the popular anime. And old anime usually don't have a lot of people watch them, so you find less and less at the top. The site also has a weird rating system, since I rate most of my anime at 7 if it's average, while the site says 5 is average. So I don't rely on them but I do believe in them to a point, even if most of my anime don't match up. |
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| Or you're weird for thinking 7 is average on a 10-point scale. |
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Anime_Name said: Could be, that could be a reason why I shouldn't rely on the ratings alot, I am weird and the site doesn't conform to my ratings.Or you're weird for thinking 7 is average on a 10-point scale. |
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IntroverTurtle said: Anime_Name said: Could be, that could be a reason why I shouldn't rely on the ratings alot, I am weird and the site doesn't conform to my ratings.Or you're weird for thinking 7 is average on a 10-point scale. I don't know about relying on but I would think averaging thousands of ratings together would produce a decent way to measure anime. At least better than just taking one stranger's opinion and running with it. |
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Anime_Name said: Or you're weird for thinking 7 is average on a 10-point scale. This 10 point scale isn't actually linear like you assume. Quite a lot of people give a show they like to watch a 10, then take off a point for everything that makes it not worthy of being a 10, or they compare it to shows they've already given 10, then 9, then 8... until they find the score that it fits best with. It's completely subjective, as you'd think. Sure some people might just happen to have a linear viewpoint, where if they think it's average it will be a 5, but I think that is not particularly common. I've been thinking that maybe the popularity list is more useful than the rating list if you're looking for anime. Particularly for people that are new to anime. Easy enough to just use both lists anyways :D |
TheLostProphet said: Anime_Name said: Or you're weird for thinking 7 is average on a 10-point scale. This 10 point scale isn't actually linear like you assume. Quite a lot of people give a show they like to watch a 10, then take off a point for everything that makes it not worthy of being a 10, or they compare it to shows they've already given 10, then 9, then 8... until they find the score that it fits best with. It's completely subjective, as you'd think. Sure some people might just happen to have a linear viewpoint, where if they think it's average it will be a 5, but I think that is not particularly common. I've been thinking that maybe the popularity list is more useful than the rating list if you're looking for anime. Particularly for people that are new to anime. Easy enough to just use both lists anyways :D No part of my comment even touches on objectivity or subjectivity of how individuals rate anime on their list. On a 1-10 point scale that doesn't use decimals and starts at 1 the number 5 would be average. The tricky part is understanding what "average" I am talking about. |
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Anime_Name said: TheLostProphet said: Anime_Name said: Or you're weird for thinking 7 is average on a 10-point scale. This 10 point scale isn't actually linear like you assume. Quite a lot of people give a show they like to watch a 10, then take off a point for everything that makes it not worthy of being a 10, or they compare it to shows they've already given 10, then 9, then 8... until they find the score that it fits best with. It's completely subjective, as you'd think. Sure some people might just happen to have a linear viewpoint, where if they think it's average it will be a 5, but I think that is not particularly common. I've been thinking that maybe the popularity list is more useful than the rating list if you're looking for anime. Particularly for people that are new to anime. Easy enough to just use both lists anyways :D No part of my comment even touches on objectivity or subjectivity of how individuals rate anime on their list. On a 1-10 point scale that doesn't use decimals and starts at 1 the number 5 would be average. The tricky part is understanding what "average" I am talking about. If that's the case, then you're calling them weird for being normal. |
Otaking87 said: the lack of true anilitical thouth that most people rate with means the system is not very good for example you ask a person why they rated an anime highly thay say i enjoyed it then you ask why they did enjoy it and i fail to give reasons why than i laugh The site allows for analytical thought, personal opinion, and all sort of crap inbetween to take place when rating anime, that freedom provides a true way to get opinions from all sorts of people, not just the few that want to give reasons. The fact that you laugh might be a hint that people probably don't want to give you their reasons because you're a snob and they are just happy with rating anime as they please without your attitude. This is a fan site and as a fan site doesn't need to be anymore analytical than it already is. The scores give you a good impression on what people on this site think about various anime. If you want a breakdown on why individuals score the way that they do when read the review section. If that's the case, then you're calling them weird for being normal. Even if it is normal on MAL, it is weird to call 7 average on a 10-point scale. The only fucked up thing about the 10-point scale is the number of people that dream up excuses not to use it. |
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Anime_Name said: It is a decent way to measure anime for a general score not for each individual. That's where reveiws and recommendations come into.IntroverTurtle said: Anime_Name said: Could be, that could be a reason why I shouldn't rely on the ratings alot, I am weird and the site doesn't conform to my ratings.Or you're weird for thinking 7 is average on a 10-point scale. I don't know about relying on but I would think averaging thousands of ratings together would produce a decent way to measure anime. At least better than just taking one stranger's opinion and running with it. |
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IntroverTurtle said: It is a decent way to measure anime for a general score not for each individual. That's where reveiws and recommendations come into. That's what the average is, a general score computed from the scores of individuals. Asking for recs or reading reviews is just narrowing your from the whole down to a few opinionated people. Which is going to be a little more faulty because you are relying on less people. |
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Anime_Name said: I know, I was just stating that it is only good for a general score, but still most people don't watch an anime in the 5's even though that is supposed to be average. And those few opinionated people's opinions are supported by voting, therefore more people support that opinion(while it's not close to the number of people who have scored it, the people who make reviews are usually very passionate either way), and the score that is given in the review is usually different than the mean score. A lot of people come on this site and just use it for the list or don't even participate in the forums and other stuff to learn about maybe how to score differently. And recommendations and reveiws made by people who are your friends and know about which anime you like and don't like would be way more reliable than an average score.IntroverTurtle said: It is a decent way to measure anime for a general score not for each individual. That's where reveiws and recommendations come into. That's what the average is, a general score computed from the scores of individuals. Asking for recs or reading reviews is just narrowing your from the whole down to a few opinionated people. Which is going to be a little more faulty because you are relying on less people. |
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